"Good timin' - Knebworth

[Jay]

On film though?

[the captain]

On film though?

I'm no movie-aker, but I'd assume the film is irrelevant. You either sync it to the edited audio or the unedited audio. It's not like they're using cameras' built-in mics. (i.e. it can be done easily)

[MBE]

I never saw the unedited film though I am aware that a few people had it. I could never land a copy.

I think everyone here would rather that a whole show be released. Too bad exorbitant publishing costs (which ruin 100's of otherwise viable video products) and band politics distorted this and the Lost Concert. Now don't get me wrong it's much better to have something then nothing and I'm sure we all do applaud Mr. Boyd for helping get this out but it's a shame that history is distorted. The Knebworth release may make the Beach Boys seem more polished then they were at the time, but it also takes out the more quirky aspects. It' makes them look a lot more retro then they were at that time. The HBO special did the same thing sadly. 

[Jay]

I've always wondered just how much of the raw tape(s) was "fixed". Going by AGD's website, it seems like this and the July 4th 1980 show were heavily worked on. On the July 4th video, it's rather obvious that the drums have been overdubbed. That's why they're so loud.

[phirnis]

I love the Knebworth concert but they could have made the group look a lot less like an oldies act if all the KTSA songs (and probably even "I Write The Songs") would have been part of the final product.

But wasn't it first released several decades after it was performed, in which case that's a moot point? It's not as if a 2000 casual audience would particularly notice the omission of 1980 songs over, say, 1970 songs.

I have a hard time putting myself in the position of a casual audience. Let's just say I would have liked it. The group obviously didn't have much faith in most of their post-Endless Summer material and to see them perform a few songs off their then-recent record would have been a real treat for that very reason, not to mention that "Good Timin'" and "Santa Ana Winds" are both favourites of mine.

[Rocker]

I've always wondered just how much of the raw tape(s) was "fixed". Going by AGD's website, it seems like this and the July 4th 1980 show were heavily worked on. On the July 4th video, it's rather obvious that the drums have been overdubbed. That's why they're so loud.

Well, they're so loud because the mix is just terrible. I don't know who did it but it's just bad.....

[c-man]

I've always wondered just how much of the raw tape(s) was "fixed". Going by AGD's website, it seems like this and the July 4th 1980 show were heavily worked on. On the July 4th video, it's rather obvious that the drums have been overdubbed. That's why they're so loud.

Well, they're so loud because the mix is just terrible. I don't know who did it but it's just bad.....

I believe it was Desper. 

[The Shift]

How does Santa Ana Winds sound on the boots if it`s been heard? They did play it around this time right?

My memory of the night is that someone had to nip of stage to get lyric sheets as it was the first time the band had ever played it live. But I was 16 at the time and my memory might be squiffy...  Anyway, I enjoyed it then, even though I (seem to recall I) thought it came across like they didn't fully know the lyrics at that time!

[Rocker]

I've always wondered just how much of the raw tape(s) was "fixed". Going by AGD's website, it seems like this and the July 4th 1980 show were heavily worked on. On the July 4th video, it's rather obvious that the drums have been overdubbed. That's why they're so loud.

Well, they're so loud because the mix is just terrible. I don't know who did it but it's just bad.....

I believe it was Desper. 

Well, I'm pretty sure that Desper would've done a very good mix. That said, all I can judge from is a DVD-copy of the video. Maybe the sound is better on the "real" product, but on my copy it's just dry, lifeless and in no ways rocking. Love the Knebworth-mix though, that one is very good.

[adamghost]

I've never seen that video before.  To my ears Dennis slows down quite a bit on the second verse...

[Dancing Bear]

Here's "Good Timin'" from Knebworth, Brian's mistake is at 1:47

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIr5BsQXJFI&feature=channel_page

What's exactly Brian's mistake?

[Jay]

I've never seen that video before.  To my ears Dennis slows down quite a bit on the second verse...

To my ears, too. It almost made the song totally break down. I wonder if the audio is the "raw" version in that clip? Somebody(Al?) sounds flat.

[Jay]

There is something I've been meaning to ask about the Knebworth show and keep forgetting. Right after the "sunny down snuff I'm alright, by the...." Mike says something right before the music starts up again. Does anybody know what he says? He says it in almost all of the Heroes and Villians performances from around that time.

[the captain]

Not watching it at the moment, but is it "toca la guitarra"? That's play the guitar.

[TdHabib]

Here's "Good Timin'" from Knebworth, Brian's mistake is at 1:47

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIr5BsQXJFI&feature=channel_page

What's exactly Brian's mistake?

I already posted in this thread what I thought the mistake was...

[Dancing Bear]

Here's "Good Timin'" from Knebworth, Brian's mistake is at 1:47

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIr5BsQXJFI&feature=channel_page

What's exactly Brian's mistake?

I already posted in this thread what I thought the mistake was...

I went back to it. Thanks.

[Aegir]

Not watching it at the moment, but is it "toca la guitarra"? That's play the guitar.

"Toque la guitarra".

[the captain]

Isn't the verb for "to play" "tocar"? Is toque a conjugation of that, or a different word?

[hypehat]

My one year GCSE Spanish course backs you up, Luther. 

[Jay]

Not watching it at the moment, but is it "toca la guitarra"? That's play the guitar.

"Toque la guitarra".

Thanks guys!  The first time I heard Mike say that, I thought the "guitarra" part sounded like "da da". I think you guys know where I'm going with this.  Anyway, the first time I heard it, I nearly fell off my bed. 

[Dancing Bear]

Isn't the verb for "to play" "tocar"? Is toque a conjugation of that, or a different word?

"Toque" is the imperative form for "tocar". So, literally, "Play the Guitar". Though "Toca la guitarra" is the more coloquial use of the imperative.

[the captain]

Funny, I wouldn't (and obviously didn't) expect that spelling change for the imperative. I assumed "toca" was imperative of "tocar." And yes, I really am that big a nerd that not only am I on a Beach Boys based message board at 9:38 pm on a Friday, but that it's this discussion--regarding a language I don't even know except maybe peripherally thanks to some HS, as well as college Latin--that really gets me going. If somebody says "ablative absolute," well I just might lose it.

[Jay]

I like food.