Hello/random question

[Nicole]

This is my first post here, so I decided not to spam up the forum with an "I'm new" thread and just introduce myself while asking a relevant question at the same time I'm Nicole and have been a Beach Boys fan since I was about 6 and my stepdad bought the Pet Sounds box set. I have a vivid memory of sitting on the counter and listening to the backing track of God Only Knows while my stepdad tried to explain to me what the song meant, and not long after that I was singing along to any BB song he played. I've been reading here for a few days and am impressed with all the discussion and information. Look forward to chatting with you all

My question iiiiis...on the Today!/Summer Days (and Summer Nights) CD, what are they talking about on the track titled Bull Session With The "Big Daddy"? Something about eating and there was a lamb at the table, "they didn't even burn the hair off of it..." LOL. Just a bunch of random talking? Sorry if it's common knowledge, I just haven't figured this all out yet, lol.

I'm fascinated by those tracks where it's just them talking about stuff...I'd love to find more like that.

[Shady]

Hey!

The Bull session track is exactly just a bunch of random talking about the tour, recording and all that stuff, I don't even recall the lamb thing, gotta listen to it again 

But if you do like the talking tracks and stuff, there's an extended bull sessions track that goes on for like 20 minutes that somebody can hook you up with if you haven't heard it already, it's pretty funny

[Jason]

"I don't like the French but I like their bread." - Brian Wilson

The unedited track is a LOT of fun to hear even if you only listen once.

DICK RISING!

[Dove Nested Towers]

"I don't like the French but I like their bread." - Brian Wilson

The unedited track is a LOT of fun to hear even if you only listen once.

DICK RISING!

Inimitable Dennis. "One of the greatest guys I've ever met in my life." Someone else: (Carl?) "He sent us a telegram". What wonderfully irreverent and carefree humor. (or just
juvenile, depending on your POV. "Earl Tree! Hi Fig!".

[Shane]

Bull Session is a staged conversation between the Beach Boys and their friend (and I believe press writer) Earl Leaf.  They are reminiscing about their then-recent 1964 European Tour.  The story about cooking the lamb happened on the tour, as well as the French Bread experiences.

[mikeyj]

Bull Session is a staged conversation between the Beach Boys and their friend (and I believe press writer) Earl Leaf.  They are reminiscing about their then-recent 1964 European Tour.  The story about cooking the lamb happened on the tour, as well as the French Bread experiences.

I wouldn't call him a friend, there is a session for Dance, Dance, Dance where he gets mentioned. Here is the summary thanks to c-man (see here):

"Dennis asks "Is Earl Leaf still going with us again?". When told that he is, Dennis disparagingly comments "Oh f**k". Carl responds "Oh come on, he's a great guy", but either Al or Brian (it's hard to tell which) says "He's a f**king jerk"."

By the way, wasn't Dick Reising a real guy who worked for Capitol?

[Pretty Funky]

Yes!

http://norimuster.com/history/capitolpeople.html

[Aegir]

That website is pretty much the only mention of Dick Rising on the internet besides Beach Boys message boards questioning if he's real.

Therefore, we don't have enough proof.

[Bicyclerider]

Earl Leaf was a hollywood press agent and wrote a column about music in Teen magazine - he gave lots of column space to the Beach Boys and it was in their interest to befriend him. 

[Andrew G. Doe]

That website is pretty much the only mention of Dick Rising on the internet besides Beach Boys message boards questioning if he's real.

Therefore, we don't have enough proof.

Excuse me ?  There's a recent interview with someone who remembers him, and his place in the Capitol hierachy in the 50s, with a photo, and that's not enough ? There isn't that much documentary proof for the existence of Jesus.

[Pretty Funky]

The picture was taken in 57-58 and the guy looks late 30s-early 40s which meant he was probably named around 1920 and 'Richard' at that.
Perfectly innocent for the time.

[Aegir]

That website is pretty much the only mention of Dick Rising on the internet besides Beach Boys message boards questioning if he's real.

Therefore, we don't have enough proof.

Excuse me ?  There's a recent interview with someone who remembers him, and his place in the Capitol hierachy in the 50s, with a photo, and that's not enough ? There isn't that much documentary proof for the existence of Jesus.

It's one website, one person. The photo doesn't say his name is Dick Rising, that's just a caption on the website. None of that is proof, it could've easily been fabricated. Not saying that it is fabricated, but you should never use just one random website as definite proof of anything.

[Andrew G. Doe]

That website is pretty much the only mention of Dick Rising on the internet besides Beach Boys message boards questioning if he's real.

Therefore, we don't have enough proof.

Excuse me ?  There's a recent interview with someone who remembers him, and his place in the Capitol hierachy in the 50s, with a photo, and that's not enough ? There isn't that much documentary proof for the existence of Jesus.

It's one website, one person. The photo doesn't say his name is Dick Rising, that's just a caption on the website. None of that is proof, it could've easily been fabricated. Not saying that it is fabricated, but you should never use just one random website as definite proof of anything.

And I bet you believe the Apollo landings were all faked too, and that Brian Wilson writes every single note of his recent releases. Jeeeeeeeeeeeeesus !

[SG7]

I remember hearing that for the first time Nicole and being like "WTF???"

[Aegir]

That website is pretty much the only mention of Dick Rising on the internet besides Beach Boys message boards questioning if he's real.

Therefore, we don't have enough proof.

Excuse me ?  There's a recent interview with someone who remembers him, and his place in the Capitol hierachy in the 50s, with a photo, and that's not enough ? There isn't that much documentary proof for the existence of Jesus.

It's one website, one person. The photo doesn't say his name is Dick Rising, that's just a caption on the website. None of that is proof, it could've easily been fabricated. Not saying that it is fabricated, but you should never use just one random website as definite proof of anything.

And I bet you believe the Apollo landings were all faked too, and that Brian Wilson writes every single note of his recent releases. Jeeeeeeeeeeeeesus !

I don't even know if you're trying to imply that I'm really skeptical or really gullible.

I mean, the website is probably true, but one falsehood is all it takes on the internet for bad information to spread.

[Andrew G. Doe]

one falsehood is all it takes... for bad information to spread.

That pretty much describes the MO of every major belief system since time began. The Donation of Constantine, anyone ?

[holeypeacoat]

imo your comparisons to support your point are a bit of a stretch man.  carly denise prefers a bit more evidence to substantiate the claim than yourself.  so what? 

talk about my way or the hwy..jeez. 

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

If other people remember him, how can he not exist?!

[Andrew G. Doe]

Check out the rest of that website - there are letters to and from Rising.

Ah, silly me - they're faked, of course.  In fact, the whole website is a hoax - there never was any Capitol Records.

This internet thing is just shameless, isn't it ?

Actually, I don't exist either. 

[Wilsonista]

Actually until about 1995 when I joined the Pet Sounds Mailing List, I never thought Dick Reising was a "naughty " name.  Of course until I joined said list, I thought Hey Little Tomboy was innocent.

[Pretty Funky]

http://www.richardreising.com/

Another Dick?

It happens...Getoverit!!!

[holeypeacoat]

Check out the rest of that website - there are letters to and from Rising.

Ah, silly me - they're faked, of course.  In fact, the whole website is a hoax - there never was any Capitol Records.

This internet thing is just shameless, isn't it ?

Actually, I don't exist either. 

i really have respect for your years of information gathering and knowledge andrew - make no mistake.  gents like yourself have done a massive amount for the factual (as opposed to the yards and yards of fantasy) BB legacy.  i know you're a fella who checks his facts twice. 

so being the information gathering sultan you are it should take no less than a wave of your hand to produce something in the vein of a birth certificate, a tombstone photograph or a photo of you, Dick and Murry (all sporting a thumbs up) to bring this long pondered question to a peaceful and gentlemanly close.  The ball is in your court sir. 

what? ho!
holeypeacoat

[Andrew G. Doe]

OK, then.

Billboard, August 2nd 1952, carried a special supplement celebrating the 10th anniversary of Capitol Records, and on page 77 of same there's a rundown of the branches of the company. In the Dallas entry is this:

"The promotional interest is reflected in the background of the present branch manager, Richard Rising. Tho' trained as an accountant, he became a New Orleans radio announcer in 1947, then manager of a wired music service. He went on to do promotional work, and eventually selling, for the Capitol distributor in New Orleans before taking the Dallas managership in 1952".

 

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Careful...now people may want DNA testing so they can trace the paper that the Billboard magazine was printed on back to the original tree from which it was made...



There hasn't been this much fuss about "Dick" since my honeymoon.

[Andrew G. Doe]

TMI, Billy - TMI...