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« Reply #125 on: June 25, 2013, 02:16:56 AM »

The first side is strong enough by itself, with it's fast paced tracks and soaring Beach Boys harmonies and inventive song writing. However, flip the album and side two takes the album into a whole new dimension. From the sublime "Please Let Me Wonder", right through to the ethereal "In The Back Of My Mind", this album is a five-star album and one which has become even greater since it's stereo re-release, allowing the songs to breathe in a way they had not done in the past.

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« Reply #126 on: August 15, 2013, 08:23:26 AM »

Hate to say it but I'm not a massive fan of the first side. It's alright but I've never been all too fond of stuff like When I Grow Up for some reason.
The second side, however, is sooo good. Perfect bliss!
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« Reply #127 on: August 19, 2013, 06:34:06 AM »

Hate to say it but I'm not a massive fan of the first side. It's alright but I've never been all too fond of stuff like When I Grow Up for some reason.
The second side, however, is sooo good. Perfect bliss!
I'm vice versa, i.e. I'm more into upbeat stuff. Sure, Side 2 is good, but the thing is it's got inferior version of I'm So Young (too saccharine to my taste), one of group's most overrated songs (PLMW), dull slowster (sorry, I've no idea how yet describe the song) aka Kiss Me Baby & the worst skit track (what the Boys talked about there is still beyond me, very nonsensical & uninteresting conversation).

Now, Judd, what is your favorite cut from the 1st side? Maybe Don't Hurt My Little Sister (I mentioned this one because I remembered your unusual fondness of Tears In the Morning)?
I'm with you on Side 1, as I tend to like the faster stuff, too. Though, I disagree about I'm So Young. I love that song and love Brian's arrangement. The bass line is fantastic and so is the updated doo-wop background vocals. Today is my favorite Beach Boys album, so overall I have no complaints.
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« Reply #128 on: August 19, 2013, 06:40:20 AM »

Hate to say it but I'm not a massive fan of the first side. It's alright but I've never been all too fond of stuff like When I Grow Up for some reason.
The second side, however, is sooo good. Perfect bliss!
I'm vice versa, i.e. I'm more into upbeat stuff. Sure, Side 2 is good, but the thing is it's got inferior version of I'm So Young (too saccharine to my taste), one of group's most overrated songs (PLMW), dull slowster (sorry, I've no idea how yet describe the song) aka Kiss Me Baby & the worst skit track (what the Boys talked about there is still beyond me, very nonsensical & uninteresting conversation).

Now, Judd, what is your favorite cut from the 1st side? Maybe Don't Hurt My Little Sister (I mentioned this one because I remembered your unusual fondness of Tears In the Morning)?
Is DHMLS a widely despised track too? Because I do like it... Tongue

I'd probably go with Dance Dance Dance. I don't hate Side A or anything but I don't think there are any masterpieces on it (and I always skip Ronda).
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« Reply #129 on: August 19, 2013, 07:22:20 AM »

Is DHMLS a widely despised track too? Because I do like it... Tongue

I'd probably go with Dance Dance Dance. I don't hate Side A or anything but I don't think there are any masterpieces on it (and I always skip Ronda).
1) Yes, it is. There are maybe only 5-4 people who like DHMLS. You're in the league of "strange" people;

2) Dx3 is rollicking, but Summer Days' v-n is way better. Toss the castanets away from Today's v-n & now we're talking. Ronda, I see why it would switch you off with all its imbalances & so on - I myself don't mind any of this. After all, Ronda features my favorite harmonica! Very clever of Brian to add it in the mix among the other instruments.

I like every track on Today. The songs are varied, but similar in tone. DHMLS has some cheesy lyrics, but when I first heard it I kept it on repeat for a few days. luv

I also love "She Knows Me Too." That repeating "ooooh, she knows me" from the begginning is beautiful. Great guitar solo too.

Aside from the terrible banter track, this an incredibly good BB LP. 5/5

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« Reply #130 on: August 19, 2013, 01:13:29 PM »

Is DHMLS a widely despised track too? Because I do like it... Tongue
1) Yes, it is. There are maybe only 5-4 people who like DHMLS. You're in the league of "strange" people;

Then I'd be happy to be in that league of strange people along with Woodstock and Judd. It's a pretty solid tune, I'd say. I always thought the chorus melody or progression or whatever was a bit off kilter, which is fascinating to me.
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« Reply #131 on: September 21, 2013, 05:21:07 PM »

What can I say about this album that hasn't already been said? lol
I love "Do You Wanna Dance", it is by far the best version of the song. As much as I love it, it still does not justify being Dennis Wilson's most successful single.
As for the rest of side 1, I don't care for it too much. "Help Me Ronda" was destroyed by Murry Wilson. Lucky they re-recorded it after the album was completed, and it went on to become a classic with the renamed "Rhonda". "Dance, Dance, Dance" is another overrated single which I never got into, as is "When I Grow Up" although that isn't as bad.
Side 2 is much better, and it's not just my opinion. It's pretty much the general consensus. "Please Let Me Wonder" and the highly underrated "In The Back Of My Mind" are some of the best songs of the early Beach Boys. The other songs are great as well, but the two I already mentioned easily top them!
And WHY did they choose to end the album with the obvious filler "Bull Session with the 'Big Daddy'"?! By some distance, the worst track on this album.
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« Reply #132 on: October 17, 2013, 04:00:00 AM »

My absolute favorite of the pre-smiley smile albums. I dig this even more than Pet Sounds. It tells a great story as a whole if you think it as a concept album. B-side is one of the best things anyone ever did in terms of music. Well there's that Bull Session with the "Big Daddy"... Let's not talk about that one... This version of Help Me, Rhonda is hundred times better than the number one single version. This rocks much harder. Dance, Dance, Dance has grew on me. I hated it first, now I love it. Please Let Me Wonder, Kiss Me, Baby and In the Back of My Mind are up there with the best songs Brian has ever composed. And I love that Dennis' vocals opens and ends the record, it's really cool idea even though it may be just coincidence. Anyway, Today! is one of my personal favorites, it's really touching, funny, rocking and sweet the same time. Not many albums out there can do the same.

Do You Wanna Dance? - 4/5
Good to My Baby - 4/5
Don't Hurt My Little Sister - 4/5
When I Grow Up (To Be a Man) - 4/5
Help Me, Ronda - 4.5/5
Dance, Dance, Dance - 4.5/5
Please Let Me Wonder - 5/5
I'm So Young - 4/5
Kiss Me, Baby - 5/5
She Knows Me Too Well - 4/5
In the Back of My Mind - 5/5
Bull Session with the "Big Daddy" - 3/5

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« Reply #133 on: December 10, 2013, 08:52:43 PM »

5/5 A great lp with a Funky cover.. Not a bad song on the album.. JEEZ it was only 3 yrs ago ftom the release of Surfin.. The progress is STAGGERING.!
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« Reply #134 on: February 21, 2014, 04:15:12 PM »

Great Songs, Great Instrumentation, Great Vocals. Ronda is a bit weird though at the end and there is really no need for Bull Session.
That background color on the cover is ugly as well.

Nevertheless, Classic Album 5/5
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« Reply #135 on: February 27, 2014, 08:54:56 PM »

I love this album!  this and Sunflower are my favorite BB albums of all time  Grin 5/5
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« Reply #136 on: May 03, 2014, 05:36:19 AM »

No problem with the "banter track". I've said this before and had to duck a barrage of ripe fruit because of it but I think the idea of ending the album with a non-muslcal track is a stroke of genius. In my view, you can't close an album with "ITBOMM" but you can't follow it with another song either. 

There's not a single track on Today! I don't like. My favourites are the utterly joyous "Dance, Dance, Dance" and "I'm So Young"----both are in my all-time BB top ten. 
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« Reply #137 on: November 19, 2014, 07:02:06 PM »

Hate to bring up a dead topic, but I think of my favorite Smiley Smilers when I listen to Beach Boys albums during my long drives.  I currently am on a Today/Summer Days twofer obsession. I think the Today album flows very well, and I think it is one of the greats, but I often find myself skipping to number 6...and then enjoying musical elation from that point on.  As I've matured as a BB fan, I've grown more and more appreciation for this fine pre-Pet Sounds work.

It's certainly awesome to see such a musical transition in just one album.  I love seeing Pet Sounds come into fruition on side B. 

I consider Summer Days to be an album with some greats on it (Let Him Run Wild, You're So Good to Me, Summer Means New Love, Then I Kissed Her) but I also feel it to be an album that purposefully concludes an era for the Beach Boys.  It seems like all remaining songs were thrown onto this album that doesn't have much flow to it.  I think this is the last "singles album" the Beach Boys intended to release for a while.
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« Reply #138 on: November 19, 2014, 10:49:20 PM »

Tell us who your favorite Smiley Smilers are. And then, when you're done, tell us who your least favorites ones are.
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« Reply #139 on: December 05, 2014, 05:57:10 PM »

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« Reply #140 on: February 18, 2015, 09:59:01 PM »

Far and away the best pre-Pet Sounds album. A true masterpiece on-par with anything the over-hyped Beatles ever did.

Not much to say except each track is really good to great, they sound very cohesive and unified together and the album flows spectacularly. You can really feel the Pet Sounds mold being formulated here, and it actually blows my mind that Brian cites Rubber Soul as the catharsis for PS. He basically made PS almost a year before the Beatles did RS...just not quite as musically advanced. But he had an album with all good stuff that fit together here for sure.

It seems this is the first album made after Brian quit touring to focus on songwriting, as well as the first made with the use of cannabis. Good god, does that extra time and creative inspiration show! I love Please Let Me Wonder, She Knows Me Too Well and When I Grow Up especially.

Even the filler track can be seen as a nice cool down "epilogue" after the album proper has ended. It's easy to ignore or skip if you don't like it since it's on the end, unlike the filler track in Summer Days.

5/5, one of the best albums they EVER did. In fact, aside from Pet Sounds it just might be their best completed album.
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« Reply #141 on: February 19, 2015, 03:52:41 AM »

Even the filler track can be seen as a nice cool down "epilogue" after the album proper has ended.
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« Reply #142 on: April 09, 2015, 11:54:59 AM »

And now the Beach Boys are starting to break away from being a surf / car band.  Look at the brown cover with the Boys decked out in yellow sweaters.  That doesn't look very "summer" to me. 

Musically, much of this album still sounds like the same band that did Surfer Girl and All Summer Long, but they take a leap lyrically, especially on the ballad heavy side two. 

A great Dennis vocal on a wonderful cover of Do You Wanna Dance opens the album in great fashion. 

When I Grow Up to Be a Man with it's harpsichord and harmonica, Brian starts to use the studio a little more.  Sign of things to come. 

The original version of Help Me Ronda is still pretty good, but not the definitive version.

After the upbeat Dance, Dance, Dance, The Beach Boys show a new level of maturity of the second side. 

Starting with the beautiful Please Let Me Wonder, The Beach Boys tackle new themes beyond teenage love, dancing, surfing, or cars.  I love the interplay between organ and guitar during the instrumental break.

Kiss Me Baby is one of the most gorgeous songs that The Beach Boys ever recorded.  I think it's a crime that both Please Let Me Wonder and Kiss Me Baby were left off both official C50 live releases. 

The real album closer is In the Back of My Mind. 

Once again, this album is almost perfect.  The third, and luckily final, studio chatter filler track Bull Session with Big Daddy closes the album with a thud.  Still a five star effort.  If not for Bull Session, this would probably be my favorite Beach Boys album.
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« Reply #143 on: April 09, 2015, 07:24:23 PM »

The Beach Boys Today! is my favorite Beach Boys album.  And if I was to be completely honest -- it's not even close.  I love so many of their albums, but this one just puts me in my place.

It doesn't exert itself in any way.  Unlike the mighty Pet Sounds -- it doesn't attempt to bend, reshape, or melt anyone's expectations.  Mujan is right on the money -- it's essentially the same Beach Boys that did All Summer Long, Surfer Girl -- Little Deuce Coupe; all the great, classic Beach Boys stuff.  And yes, the influence of dropping out and "tuning in" (though it's more dropping out than tuning in) is certainly felt.  It's a cool-out, relax and explore album -- but still operating within the gifted formula of the band's great inventions.

And that's its magic.  It doesn't sound any different than what came before it -- though it pulls you in more.  Hurts more.  It's sweeter.  It aches more.  It loves more.  It feels more.  It smiles more.  It's comfortable.  It's totally comfortable in itself.  So comfortable, that it freely invites you to the after party.  There's nothing like a Kosher pickle!
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« Reply #144 on: June 19, 2015, 02:47:12 PM »

Oh man. That timpani in Do You Wana Dance!!

 Overal probably my favourite pre-sounds release. SDASN follows it closely.

I've given it a 4 based on a kind of, great but not indispensable feeling.
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« Reply #145 on: September 26, 2015, 03:37:40 AM »

Do You Wanna Dance? - 5/5
Good to My Baby - 5/5
Don't Hurt My Little Sister - 5/5
When I Grow Up (To Be a Man) - 5/5
Help Me, Ronda - 3/5
Dance, Dance, Dance - 4/5
Please Let Me Wonder - 5/5
I'm So Young - 4/5
Kiss Me, Baby - 5/5
She Knows Me Too Well - 5/5
In the Back of My Mind - 5/5

No need to rank Bull Session with the Big Daddy as it's not a song and as it ends the album it can easily be ignored.

The early version of R(h)onda suffers by comparison to the hit version, but other than that Today! is pure gold and easily my favourite of the 'Brian' era.
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« Reply #146 on: April 28, 2016, 10:46:46 PM »

I actually like this version of Ronda; not saying it's better than the hit version, just a different take on the song. In fact, this was the first version I heard on the radio, mid 70's - they probably were playing it off the Endless Summer album. Later, I heard the single version, and expected the fade in/fade out, and when it didn't happen, I was kind of WTF? There's so much talk about side two of Today and those great ballads, but side one is pretty darn good, too. 3 of their biggest hits and an alternate version of another one. I don't even mind Bull Daddy, but hearing them munching on those burgers and fries makes me hungry!
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« Reply #147 on: April 29, 2016, 05:14:13 AM »

Agreed totally re: Ronda. It's very unusual you heard it 1st before Rhonda. I don't think anyone said the same.

That's probably more common for the long time fans who were lucky enough to be around when these great records were new. 
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« Reply #148 on: April 29, 2016, 05:43:10 AM »

I heard Help Me, Ronda years before I heard Help Me, Rhonda.
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« Reply #149 on: April 29, 2016, 07:40:25 AM »

I heard Help Me, Ronda years before I heard Help Me, Rhonda.
Yeah, I think a lot of people became exposed to Ronda through Endless Summer. For years Capitol always used Ronda on hits packages, instead of the hit Rhonda.
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