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« Reply #400 on: May 28, 2019, 06:22:04 AM »

Looks like the SF Giants website still has some photos up of that '82 concert, but the little video clips are gone.

There's one clip of stock video footage of the show on Getty, but it appears to be all audience shots:

https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/video/medium-shot-teen-girls-with-big-hair-singing-at-stock-video-footage/786-95?adppopup=true

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« Reply #401 on: May 28, 2019, 06:34:31 AM »

Looks like the Internet Wayback Machine has the two 1982 Candlestick clips archived. It took a bit of work to get to these direct links, but these should work:

https://web.archive.org//web/20160609154927im_/http://footage.framepool.com/mov/414-114-139.mp4

https://web.archive.org//web/20160519154256im_/http://footage.framepool.com/mov/368-508-390.mp4
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« Reply #402 on: May 28, 2019, 08:54:07 AM »

Looks like the Internet Wayback Machine has the two 1982 Candlestick clips archived. It took a bit of work to get to these direct links, but these should work:

https://web.archive.org//web/20160609154927im_/http://footage.framepool.com/mov/414-114-139.mp4

https://web.archive.org//web/20160519154256im_/http://footage.framepool.com/mov/368-508-390.mp4


Very good! Thank you! I updated the link.


BTW, does anone of you have problems with the first picture (the one from '64) above the list getting shown? Sometimes I can see it, sometimes there's nothing there.... Huh
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« Reply #403 on: May 28, 2019, 12:57:07 PM »

Looks like the Internet Wayback Machine has the two 1982 Candlestick clips archived. It took a bit of work to get to these direct links, but these should work:

https://web.archive.org//web/20160609154927im_/http://footage.framepool.com/mov/414-114-139.mp4

https://web.archive.org//web/20160519154256im_/http://footage.framepool.com/mov/368-508-390.mp4
Thank you so much!  Grin Dennis looked pretty good, considering the time period.

Now if only somebody could re-upload the 8mm footage of the 1982 Allentown show. Brian's condition was quite shocking, to put it mildly.
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« Reply #404 on: May 28, 2019, 01:06:07 PM »

The mid-late 1982 shows once Carl returned definitely saw an uptick in quality. Carl was back, was insisting on more rehearsals, and was also insisting on setlist changes. So at least for a short while there the setlist got a *little* more interesting with "It's OK", "I Can Hear Music", and "Good Timin'" being reintroduced, and also stuff like "Rockin' All Over the World."

I think these positive changes were somewhat negated by the increasingly problematic issues with Dennis and Brian. I've always found in interesting that right as Carl returned after a year away, soon after Brian started not appearing more and more (and sometimes Dennis too). I'm guessing Dennis and Brian played more gigs in 1981 *without* Carl than they did in 1982.

I'm not saying having Brian out on the road in 1981 was necessarily a good thing for him, but one does wonder if having to at least *try* to show up and be ready to sing "God Only Knows" and "Good Vibrations", etc. kept Brian from going even more off the rails even sooner than he eventually did. I'm not blaming Carl's return for Brian's late 1982 demise, but I'm curious if it was easier for him to sort of float off into the ether when he wasn't needed as much at the live shows.
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« Reply #405 on: May 28, 2019, 01:59:56 PM »

Listening to "Don't Worry Baby" from Long Beach, something tells me that Brian probably wasn't ever really "ready".
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« Reply #406 on: May 28, 2019, 02:17:41 PM »

Listening to "Don't Worry Baby" from Long Beach, something tells me that Brian probably wasn't ever really "ready".

He often sounded okay on other stuff like Sloop, GOK, GV. I don't think Brian could have done "Don't Worry Baby" in the original key in 1975 either. I don't think Carl or Al could have done it in the original key in full falsetto voice by the early 80s either. I think you can hear a few audience recordings from 1981/82 where Al tries to fill in the gaps for Brian.

By the time they added the song back to the setlist in 1987/88 or so, Carl sang the first part of the verses and Foskett (and later Adrian Baker in 1990/91) sang the second part of the verses and the choruses. By 1992 or 93, they just had Matt Jardine sing the whole thing.

There are a ton of other leads even the 1981 Brian could have handled generally reasonably well. I'm not sure why of all songs they chose to have Brian do "Don't Worry Baby" in the original key. I'm trying to think of something less realistic to have him sing. I guess "Papa Oom Mow Mow" or something?
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« Reply #407 on: May 29, 2019, 01:45:49 AM »

Listening to "Don't Worry Baby" from Long Beach, something tells me that Brian probably wasn't ever really "ready".

He often sounded okay on other stuff like Sloop, GOK, GV. I don't think Brian could have done "Don't Worry Baby" in the original key in 1975 either. I don't think Carl or Al could have done it in the original key in full falsetto voice by the early 80s either. I think you can hear a few audience recordings from 1981/82 where Al tries to fill in the gaps for Brian.

By the time they added the song back to the setlist in 1987/88 or so, Carl sang the first part of the verses and Foskett (and later Adrian Baker in 1990/91) sang the second part of the verses and the choruses. By 1992 or 93, they just had Matt Jardine sing the whole thing.

There are a ton of other leads even the 1981 Brian could have handled generally reasonably well. I'm not sure why of all songs they chose to have Brian do "Don't Worry Baby" in the original key. I'm trying to think of something less realistic to have him sing. I guess "Papa Oom Mow Mow" or something?
There is a video from I believe Arizona from 1988 where Carl sings the entire lead verses of Don't Worry Baby, and you can see and hear that he's really pushing to the limit of his range.
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« Reply #408 on: May 29, 2019, 07:00:52 AM »

I'm trying to think of something less realistic to have him sing. I guess "Papa Oom Mow Mow" or something?


Well, it's not like they didn't play "Long tall texan" during those shows....  Wink
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« Reply #409 on: May 29, 2019, 07:12:00 AM »

Listening to "Don't Worry Baby" from Long Beach, something tells me that Brian probably wasn't ever really "ready".

He often sounded okay on other stuff like Sloop, GOK, GV. I don't think Brian could have done "Don't Worry Baby" in the original key in 1975 either. I don't think Carl or Al could have done it in the original key in full falsetto voice by the early 80s either. I think you can hear a few audience recordings from 1981/82 where Al tries to fill in the gaps for Brian.

By the time they added the song back to the setlist in 1987/88 or so, Carl sang the first part of the verses and Foskett (and later Adrian Baker in 1990/91) sang the second part of the verses and the choruses. By 1992 or 93, they just had Matt Jardine sing the whole thing.

There are a ton of other leads even the 1981 Brian could have handled generally reasonably well. I'm not sure why of all songs they chose to have Brian do "Don't Worry Baby" in the original key. I'm trying to think of something less realistic to have him sing. I guess "Papa Oom Mow Mow" or something?
There is a video from I believe Arizona from 1988 where Carl sings the entire lead verses of Don't Worry Baby, and you can see and hear that he's really pushing to the limit of his range.

Yes, that's the 87/88 arrangement I was talking about. I guess it's one of those songs where one can debate where the verses end and what might be a bridge versus a second part of the verse, but I'd say one way to look at is that Foskett is singing the second part of the verses. So for instance:

Well, its been building up inside of me for (Carl)
Oh, I don't know how long (Carl)
I don't know why, but I keep thinking (Carl)
Something's bound to go wrong (Carl)
But she looks in my eyes (Foskett or Baker)
And makes me realize (Foskett or Baker)

They were bouncing around some changing arrangement ideas around that 1988 timeframe. Check out "Wouldn't It Be Nice" from that same Arizona show. They can't decide who's singing. It sounds like Carl, Al, and Foskett are all singing the lead in unison. At one point, *prior* to the bridge, Mike starts singing the lead too. So at one point four guys are all singing the lead at the same time.

It was right around that time that I think the lead on WIBN was transitioning from Al to Carl. Al sang it in the early-mid 80s (when Brian was there), but by 1989, as you can see in the "Endless Summer" TV show live concert segments, Carl was singing it.
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« Reply #410 on: June 02, 2019, 01:24:41 PM »

This looks like a new pro shot to me... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzB_PMITLrY

Audio is probably  C+ or B- (if I'm being generous), but the camera work/editing is pretty cool, and looks somewhat professional.

Bruce shouting "THIS WAS THE COOLEST CONCERT!" totally cracks me up  LOL LOL I can't lie though, the band was on fire. I liked Ike's falsetto, Scott's guitar was perfect as always, Mike sounded pretty damn good!, and Ramone's drumming added a lot of energy. Looking forward to hearing this live.
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« Reply #411 on: June 02, 2019, 01:31:58 PM »

This looks like a new pro shot to me... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzB_PMITLrY

Audio is probably  C+ or B- (if I'm being generous), but the camera work/editing is pretty cool, and looks somewhat professional.

Bruce shouting "THIS WAS THE COOLEST CONCERT!" totally cracks me up  LOL LOL I can't lie though, the band was on fire. I liked Ike's falsetto, Scott's guitar was perfect as always, Mike sounded pretty damn good!, and Ramone's drumming added a lot of energy. Looking forward to hearing this live.

It's a copy of the video Mike's official channel posted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgD9XrlJT0o
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« Reply #412 on: June 02, 2019, 02:19:14 PM »

Listening to "Don't Worry Baby" from Long Beach, something tells me that Brian probably wasn't ever really "ready".

He often sounded okay on other stuff like Sloop, GOK, GV. I don't think Brian could have done "Don't Worry Baby" in the original key in 1975 either. I don't think Carl or Al could have done it in the original key in full falsetto voice by the early 80s either. I think you can hear a few audience recordings from 1981/82 where Al tries to fill in the gaps for Brian.

By the time they added the song back to the setlist in 1987/88 or so, Carl sang the first part of the verses and Foskett (and later Adrian Baker in 1990/91) sang the second part of the verses and the choruses. By 1992 or 93, they just had Matt Jardine sing the whole thing.

There are a ton of other leads even the 1981 Brian could have handled generally reasonably well. I'm not sure why of all songs they chose to have Brian do "Don't Worry Baby" in the original key. I'm trying to think of something less realistic to have him sing. I guess "Papa Oom Mow Mow" or something?
There is a video from I believe Arizona from 1988 where Carl sings the entire lead verses of Don't Worry Baby, and you can see and hear that he's really pushing to the limit of his range.

Yes, that's the 87/88 arrangement I was talking about. I guess it's one of those songs where one can debate where the verses end and what might be a bridge versus a second part of the verse, but I'd say one way to look at is that Foskett is singing the second part of the verses. So for instance:

Well, its been building up inside of me for (Carl)
Oh, I don't know how long (Carl)
I don't know why, but I keep thinking (Carl)
Something's bound to go wrong (Carl)
But she looks in my eyes (Foskett or Baker)
And makes me realize (Foskett or Baker)

They were bouncing around some changing arrangement ideas around that 1988 timeframe. Check out "Wouldn't It Be Nice" from that same Arizona show. They can't decide who's singing. It sounds like Carl, Al, and Foskett are all singing the lead in unison. At one point, *prior* to the bridge, Mike starts singing the lead too. So at one point four guys are all singing the lead at the same time.

It was right around that time that I think the lead on WIBN was transitioning from Al to Carl. Al sang it in the early-mid 80s (when Brian was there), but by 1989, as you can see in the "Endless Summer" TV show live concert segments, Carl was singing it.

They did "Don't Worry Baby" the same way in '84 - Carl singing the verses, Jeff singing the choruses...which at the time I thought was ironic, since the '73 version had Al singing the verses, and Carl singing the choruses. BTW, the best decision they made as far as live lead choices was having Carl take over "WIBN" in the late '80s. He sounded fantastic on that. IIRC, he sang it right up until he had to quit the road. But you're right - they had way too many guys trying to sing it. It was essentially Al's live lead, until Brian came back, then he and Al tried signing it together, and I think when Jeff joined, he sang it with the two of them until Brian dropped back out again. So that's when the three-to-four guy approach started (at least in the first verse).
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« Reply #413 on: June 02, 2019, 03:01:35 PM »

In Olympia 1969, Bruce sings The verses and Al The chorus.
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« Reply #414 on: June 02, 2019, 08:32:49 PM »

Looks like the Internet Wayback Machine has the two 1982 Candlestick clips archived. It took a bit of work to get to these direct links, but these should work:

https://web.archive.org//web/20160609154927im_/http://footage.framepool.com/mov/414-114-139.mp4

https://web.archive.org//web/20160519154256im_/http://footage.framepool.com/mov/368-508-390.mp4
Thank you so much!  Grin Dennis looked pretty good, considering the time period.

Now if only somebody could re-upload the 8mm footage of the 1982 Allentown show. Brian's condition was quite shocking, to put it mildly.

I thought the same thing about Dennis.

And thanks to the uploader, too.
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« Reply #415 on: June 03, 2019, 01:49:18 AM »

This looks like a new pro shot to me... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzB_PMITLrY

Audio is probably  C+ or B- (if I'm being generous), but the camera work/editing is pretty cool, and looks somewhat professional.

Bruce shouting "THIS WAS THE COOLEST CONCERT!" totally cracks me up  LOL LOL I can't lie though, the band was on fire. I liked Ike's falsetto, Scott's guitar was perfect as always, Mike sounded pretty damn good!, and Ramone's drumming added a lot of energy. Looking forward to hearing this live.

It's a copy of the video Mike's official channel posted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgD9XrlJT0o


Thanks guys! Do we know if the whole show was filmed or was it just this song as a promo for Mike?
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« Reply #416 on: June 03, 2019, 07:19:55 AM »

I think Mike has occasionally put out live clips from his shows, and they're usually like this. Sort of "semi-pro-shot", and/or using a limited in-house video system.

Mike undoubtedly has (or has had access to) countless in-house pro-shot video feeds of his concerts. But, while he can apparently put out freebie clips of his "Beach Boys" shows, and appear on TV shows as "The Beach Boys", he certainly cannot *release* (as in sell) his live shows (audio or video) under the BB name. I would guess the reason he hasn't released anything from his live band in all these 21 years of performing is that it would be odd to need to release a "Beach Boys" show under the name "Mike Love." There may well be some licensing terms that outright prevent him releasing stuff, I dunno. Even if there wasn't, there would be some labeling/billing issues woven into any live show if they tried to release it. Wearing "Beach Boys" regalia, on-stage references to it being "The Beach Boys." I'm guessing the BRI live touring license wouldnd't allow Mike to release a live DVD of his show, even under the name "Mike Love", while the drum head on stage has a "Beach Boys" logo, etc.

They could probably do enough editing (e.g. remove the emcee calling them the BBs, and excise any other on-stage verbal references), and remove BB signage on stage and release a show as "Mike Love."
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« Reply #417 on: June 09, 2019, 02:12:30 AM »

Does anyone have mor info on this short clip of Carl being joined on stage by little Carnie and Wendy for Good Vibrations?


https://authgram.com/p/Bw16JLgBCsF
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« Reply #418 on: June 21, 2019, 03:58:28 AM »

Oh, The clip dissapeared
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« Reply #419 on: June 26, 2019, 08:49:15 AM »

Found this show on youtube. Anybody with mire infos? The user says:


199x My best guess is its from Summer In Paradise/1993 Box Set Tour (I can't seem to find any info about this performance online) Ripped straight from VHS. when i have the free time i will clean up the video as best as I can.

A&E In Concert: The Beach Boys (Part 1)

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It also features interview parts with Mike in striped shirt
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« Reply #420 on: June 26, 2019, 09:15:16 AM »

Found this show on youtube. Anybody with mire infos? The user says:


199x My best guess is its from Summer In Paradise/1993 Box Set Tour (I can't seem to find any info about this performance online) Ripped straight from VHS. when i have the free time i will clean up the video as best as I can.

A&E In Concert: The Beach Boys (Part 1)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txmllPjZY1M



It also features interview parts with Mike in striped shirt

My vague recollection is that this was recorded and/or aired in 1994. But certainly this show is in the 1994-93-ish range.
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« Reply #421 on: June 26, 2019, 10:20:38 AM »

Uploaded by Mike's channel today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk5ojT7LY7k&feature=youtu.be
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« Reply #422 on: June 26, 2019, 08:03:15 PM »

Sadly that sounds nothing like the BB at all with Mike and Bruce inaudible and no Jeff, It sounds like a four freshman cover band. Technically good but not BB like in the slighest. Cry
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« Reply #423 on: June 27, 2019, 03:45:46 AM »

Thanks for the link, but that's not a pro-shot but amateur. Now, if anybody knows more about the A&E show posted above....
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« Reply #424 on: June 27, 2019, 04:53:27 AM »

Agree with the comments posted above Bruce and Mike are completely inaudible and Scott and bass player sound like they're singing alone. Nice job but clearly not the Beach Boys it doesn't sound anything at all like them. Cover band
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