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Question: Rate Sunflower
5 - 149 (72.7%)
4 - 46 (22.4%)
3 - 8 (3.9%)
2 - 0 (0%)
1 - 1 (0.5%)
0 - 1 (0.5%)
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« on: December 26, 2005, 10:57:06 AM »

Discuss, review and rate Sunflower, released August 1970.

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« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2005, 11:03:03 AM »

For me, this is the most overrated Beach Boys album by fans. I like some of it -- and consider "This Whole World" to be among the top handful of Beach Boys songs ever, comparable to all the greats. But some of it is really grating to me. Often pointed to as an example of how great a writer Dennis was becoming, I think that half his tracks on the disc are absolutely embarrassing ("It's About Time" and "Got To Know the Woman"...those lyrics, even for the Beach Boys, are just remarkably bad). Of course, the aforementioned TWW, Cool Cool Water, Slip On Through, Forever are gems, and I like some of the others, like All I Wanna Do and Our Sweet Love. To me, they're easy-going, pretty songs in the tradition of Friends, but with the talented Mr. Desper at the helm, thus sounding brilliant. I'd give this about a 3.75 if I could.
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« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2005, 01:09:55 PM »

The album that made me the fan I am today. I don't care if it's overrated or underrated, it will always have a soft spot in my heart. Everyone is in their top form, especially Dennis and Mike. Five stars.
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« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2005, 01:14:12 PM »

I have to give this a 5. The album everyone thinks Abbey Road is.
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« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2005, 11:32:35 PM »

The best Beach Boy album... even if it does have 'At My Window' on it.
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« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2005, 01:34:31 AM »

Sunflower is one of my favorit BB LP. I would say no.2 

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« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2005, 12:34:02 PM »

I recognize the quality of the album.  The range of talent of the band is undeniable.

It just always struck me as a little TOO SWEET for the most part.  I do listen to it as I rotate playing of BB albums but it gets less play, for example, than Holland, Love You, or Friends.
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« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2005, 01:13:26 PM »

Great album. It was good idea to put Sunflower with Surf's Up on twofer. It is a very strong side one. The only thing I don't like is Tears In The Morning. A bit too dramatic for my taste. My favorite vocals of the whole album is All I Wanna Do. The backing vocals and that intro. really kicks butt (that's besides all side 1, Our Sweet Love, At My Window and of course Cool, Cool Water).


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« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2005, 07:29:12 PM »

For me, this is it. This album is my all-time favorite, not only of the Beach Boys, but by anyone! My all-time favorite. I never get tired of listening to it, I wore out my original vinyl album over the years, and it has a permanent seat in my home CD player.

Hail Sunflower!!
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« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2005, 07:36:16 PM »

Hail Glick & his freeble energizer! I can't live without this album either. The vinyl sounds sooooo goooood!!
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« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2005, 07:38:05 PM »

Hail Glick & his freeble energizer! I can't live without this album either. The vinyl sounds sooooo goooood!!

me three. I don't wanna fight anymore. I just wanna lay in the grass and be cool.
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« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2005, 07:40:56 PM »

It's docked one star because of Bruce's dreck.

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« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2005, 07:42:12 PM »

Deirdre is AMAZING! Tears, less so.
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« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2005, 07:43:09 PM »

I'm referring to Tears. Dierdre the best song Bruce ever wrote.

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« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2005, 07:45:39 PM »

The album is worth it for "All I Wanna Do", in my top 5 BB's tracks for sure.

The rest of the album suffers from sounding alittle too 'sweet', I much prefer the production on 20/20 for example...  Compare the sound of "Be With Me" or "I Can Hear Music" to anything on this album, and 20/20 kicks it.  Brians falsetto on "Sunflower" shits me too, sounds like a bad Mickey Mouse impersonation...  just listen to the close of "Add Some Music"... God awful.

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« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2005, 07:47:05 PM »

Hey, at least Brian doesn't sound like he did on Orange Crate Art.  :D
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« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2005, 07:48:04 PM »

*sigh*

You narrowly survive, Matinee, due to your affinity for All I Wanna Do, my favorite song of all time.
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« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2005, 07:53:22 PM »

*sigh*

You narrowly survive, Matinee, due to your affinity for All I Wanna Do, my favorite song of all time.

Ha, I know a good song when I hear it mate... And "Add Some Music" sure as f*** isn't.
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« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2005, 07:56:44 PM »

I used to think Johnston's contributions made this album a bit 'light', but many years ago I realized they help to make it perfect. Then I fell in love with Disney Girls. Luther, I wouldn't change a word of Got To Know The Woman... positively Denny!

I just wanna lay in the grass and be cool, too!
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« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2005, 07:57:40 PM »

That's one of the most beautiful, soulful and spiritual songs I have ever had the honor of hearing. I love it. Really."Music is in my soul.." Exactly.

Disney Girls is great. I agree, my Monkee man.
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« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2005, 07:58:34 PM »

Let the 'At My Window' lovefest continue!

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« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2005, 08:31:36 PM »

Luther, I wouldn't change a word of Got To Know The Woman... positively Denny!

A perfect encapsulation of a personality doesn't make a good song, necessarily. I agree with the last two words of your above sentence. The first part, though...I couldn't disagree more.
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« Reply #22 on: December 27, 2005, 08:56:04 PM »

Ian, you're right, the middle eight of "Add Some Music" is one of the most beautiful, soulful creations ever.  "When day is over.. I close my tired eyes.." The rest of the song though is utter dreck.

The rest is worth suffering through for that bridge though.
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« Reply #23 on: December 28, 2005, 05:35:19 AM »

I have to give this a 5. The album everyone thinks Abbey Road is.

WORD.  And this is from an Abbey Road fan.  The comparison is perfect and apt.
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« Reply #24 on: December 28, 2005, 05:41:42 AM »

For those of you complaining about lyrics...

THIS IS A (*^&#@ BEACH BOYS ALBUM!!!!

Since when do we expect great lyrics from them?  Seriously.  And some of us actually don't analyze lyrics while listening to music at a primary level.  I hear the words and how they are sung, how the vocal lines fit with the song, before I hear what is being sung.  So unless they are just BAD (and these aren't), bad lyrics don't bother me (example of when they do bother me -- Hey Little Tomboy).

Musically, this is the climax and absolute peak of the band as a band.  Though Brian still had a heavy hand in these sessions, Carl and Denny were also forces, and Mike contributed some of his best vocals and songs (Like, say, All I Wanna Do) and Bruce had his one good song (I say -- replace Tears with a finished Soulful Old Man Sunshine and you would have the most perfect album imaginable).

For me, 5 is not high enough.  This is the album that made me a hardcore BB fan and the one I like best and play most often.  And yes, that includes Pet Sounds.
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