Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again

[FatherOfTheMan Sr101]

It will.

[runnersdialzero]

Though it is seldom hyped as a blockbuster, one of a kind classic

It happens all the time around here.

But apparently not memorable to Al Jardine, I asked him about it and he seemed to have no clue. He asked me three times to repeat the name of the song so he could remember to check it out for the boxset.

Who knows if Al's even heard it. Things weren't so linear and involving of all members starting in the late 60s. I'm sure there's several songs each member has no clue about.

[bgas]

There is unique, and then there is this, which looks almost unprecedented. Have other run-of-the-mill BB's reference and/or promo CD's for otherwise uneventful albums projects sold for this kind of money?

I honestly haven't been following any recent eBay activity for this kind of stuff (e.g. unique promos, rare acetates, one-offs/near one-offs, even master tapes, etc.)

But...I'll say this much: Had the seller specifically noted in their description as to the exact holy-grail rarity that was enclosed within...it would've sold for a helluva lot more than 400 bucks...lol! I've seen wall posters sell for that much!

(And...there would have been more than five bidders)

I'd be very surprised if the seller really knew what a rarity they had; they obviously were aware it was an in-house CD and therefore a rarity, but had they known exactly what they had there's no way they would have let it slip away. Not that I think they're sad about receiving $400 for a CD they were given for free

Beach Boys TWOTS CD compilation producer, Capitol Records: Cheryl Pawelski
Ebay Seller: Cheryl Pawelski

Sure she knows the original track listing and what a rarity it is!  Wouldn't be a bit surprised if she has more of 'em!

SO...  You've personally dealt with this seller and know from this their actual name is Cheryl Pawelski?  ( I'm betting not)
  I doubt she has the time to borrow from her day job to sell all the items to get an 8603 feedback.  

[SurfRiderHawaii]

Though it is seldom hyped as a blockbuster, one of a kind classic

It happens all the time around here.

But apparently not memorable to Al Jardine, I asked him about it and he seemed to have no clue. He asked me three times to repeat the name of the song so he could remember to check it out for the boxset.

Who knows if Al's even heard it. Things weren't so linear and involving of all members starting in the late 60s. I'm sure there's several songs each member has no clue about.

Yeah, it was obvious that Al didn't remember the track. But it was cool that he promised me he would check it out for the boxset (he did confirm that a boxset was being compiled). I really stressed to him that the hardcore fans really wanted to hear it.

[runnersdialzero]

Hopefully that counted toward something if it was ever in limbo at all. I mean they have to be aware of it being the most wanted unreleased Beach Boys track among the fanbase, generally speaking. They've mishandled some stuff in the past, but hopefully they know what the right thing to do is, in this case.

[SurfRiderHawaii]

Hopefully that counted toward something if it was ever in limbo at all. I mean they have to be aware of it being the most wanted unreleased Beach Boys track among the fanbase, generally speaking. They've mishandled some stuff in the past, but hopefully they know what the right thing to do is, in this case.

I hope so. Al was very cool and we spent a good part of our conversation on the box. Some New tracks leftover from Radio, then I brought up WIBNTLA. He certainly understood I wanted it.

[Mikie]

There is unique, and then there is this, which looks almost unprecedented. Have other run-of-the-mill BB's reference and/or promo CD's for otherwise uneventful albums projects sold for this kind of money?

I honestly haven't been following any recent eBay activity for this kind of stuff (e.g. unique promos, rare acetates, one-offs/near one-offs, even master tapes, etc.)

But...I'll say this much: Had the seller specifically noted in their description as to the exact holy-grail rarity that was enclosed within...it would've sold for a helluva lot more than 400 bucks...lol! I've seen wall posters sell for that much!

(And...there would have been more than five bidders)

I'd be very surprised if the seller really knew what a rarity they had; they obviously were aware it was an in-house CD and therefore a rarity, but had they known exactly what they had there's no way they would have let it slip away. Not that I think they're sad about receiving $400 for a CD they were given for free

Beach Boys TWOTS CD compilation producer, Capitol Records: Cheryl Pawelski
Ebay Seller: Cheryl Pawelski

Sure she knows the original track listing and what a rarity it is!  Wouldn't be a bit surprised if she has more of 'em!

SO...  You've personally dealt with this seller and know from this their actual name is Cheryl Pawelski?  ( I'm betting not)
  I doubt she has the time to borrow from her day job to sell all the items to get an 8603 feedback.  

As Lee said in an earlier post, Cheryl's other Ebay auctions are all promos and industry comps. Coincidence? And since she's no longer with Capitol, she's probably got more time on her hands now. Or maybe it's even someone selling for her (friend/relative) using her name, who knows.

[bgas]

There is unique, and then there is this, which looks almost unprecedented. Have other run-of-the-mill BB's reference and/or promo CD's for otherwise uneventful albums projects sold for this kind of money?

I honestly haven't been following any recent eBay activity for this kind of stuff (e.g. unique promos, rare acetates, one-offs/near one-offs, even master tapes, etc.)

But...I'll say this much: Had the seller specifically noted in their description as to the exact holy-grail rarity that was enclosed within...it would've sold for a helluva lot more than 400 bucks...lol! I've seen wall posters sell for that much!

(And...there would have been more than five bidders)

I'd be very surprised if the seller really knew what a rarity they had; they obviously were aware it was an in-house CD and therefore a rarity, but had they known exactly what they had there's no way they would have let it slip away. Not that I think they're sad about receiving $400 for a CD they were given for free

Beach Boys TWOTS CD compilation producer, Capitol Records: Cheryl Pawelski
Ebay Seller: Cheryl Pawelski

Sure she knows the original track listing and what a rarity it is!  Wouldn't be a bit surprised if she has more of 'em!

SO...  You've personally dealt with this seller and know from this their actual name is Cheryl Pawelski?  ( I'm betting not)
  I doubt she has the time to borrow from her day job to sell all the items to get an 8603 feedback.  

As Lee said in an earlier post, Cheryl's other Ebay auctions are all promos and industry comps. Coincidence? And since she's no longer with Capitol, she's probably got more time on her hands now. Or maybe it's even someone selling for her (friend/relative) using her name, who knows.

yeah, Lee making a supposition, which could be right or wrong.

[Dave Modny]

There is unique, and then there is this, which looks almost unprecedented. Have other run-of-the-mill BB's reference and/or promo CD's for otherwise uneventful albums projects sold for this kind of money?

I honestly haven't been following any recent eBay activity for this kind of stuff (e.g. unique promos, rare acetates, one-offs/near one-offs, even master tapes, etc.)

But...I'll say this much: Had the seller specifically noted in their description as to the exact holy-grail rarity that was enclosed within...it would've sold for a helluva lot more than 400 bucks...lol! I've seen wall posters sell for that much!

(And...there would have been more than five bidders)

I'd be very surprised if the seller really knew what a rarity they had; they obviously were aware it was an in-house CD and therefore a rarity, but had they known exactly what they had there's no way they would have let it slip away. Not that I think they're sad about receiving $400 for a CD they were given for free  

I seriously doubt she (or he) knew it either. There would've been something in the description, and more likely the subject line itself. This is a seller who obviously deals in this kind of stuff on a serious level.

Though, I'd reckon that *after* it sold for 400 bucks, that same seller probably suspected *something* was up..lol.


(I'm actually a tiny bit envious of the bidders who were able to catch this one. Very impressive!)

[wantsomecorn]

Hopefully that counted toward something if it was ever in limbo at all. I mean they have to be aware of it being the most wanted unreleased Beach Boys track among the fanbase, generally speaking. They've mishandled some stuff in the past, but hopefully they know what the right thing to do is, in this case.

I hope so. Al was very cool and we spent a good part of our conversation on the box. Some New tracks leftover from Radio, then I brought up WIBNTLA. He certainly understood I wanted it.

Are you saying that Al said there would be TWGMTR outtakes on the box set?

[HeyJude]

Yeah, it was obvious that Al didn't remember the track. But it was cool that he promised me he would check it out for the boxset (he did confirm that a boxset was being compiled). I really stressed to him that the hardcore fans really wanted to hear it.

These guys sometimes or often don't pay attention to the minutae the way we do. I find it hilarious usually. Like the 90's interview footage where George, Paul, and Ringo are together and George can't remember what song is on what album. It's hilarious.

Al may well recognize WIBNTLA if he heard it; he may remember the song more than the title, who knows? I remember a fan saying they ran into Al in the 70's to get an autograph, and handed him "Smiley Smile", and Al seemed fascinated as if it was some gem that had never come out or like it was a boot or something. Yet in later years, Al has ofen discussed the album and specifically that it was the "replacement" so to speak for "Smile."

There's an interview from 1985 of Brian promoting the new BB album where he's asked about the "Surf's Up" album and "Take a Load Off Your Feet", and he acts as if he has no clue what the interviewer is talking about. I find that hilarious for some reason, and it also makes me glad we have superfans and archivists to actually pay attention and care about this stuff.

[the captain]

These guys sometimes or often don't pay attention to the minutae the way we do. I find it hilarious usually. Like the 90's interview footage where George, Paul, and Ringo are together and George can't remember what song is on what album. It's hilarious.

This is very, very true. Another example is when some musicians began using teleprompters to help them with lyrics while performing (a certain Mr. Wilson being among them). Some fans are outraged, in that they know every word. Fact is, many musicians don't. Most musicians I've known--obviously on an entirely different level--don't recall the level of detail about their own work that the average poster here does about the Beach Boys'. In fact, I don't recall my own songs, timelines, or recording facts as clearly as I do the Beach Boys' sometimes.

The experiences of being a musician and being a fan are very different. And that's for the best: would you really want musicians to be so self-absorbed as their fans are? To start writing self-referential music to the point of parody, for example? (oh, sorry, mike.)

I kid.

[SurfRiderHawaii]

Hopefully that counted toward something if it was ever in limbo at all. I mean they have to be aware of it being the most wanted unreleased Beach Boys track among the fanbase, generally speaking. They've mishandled some stuff in the past, but hopefully they know what the right thing to do is, in this case.

I hope so. Al was very cool and we spent a good part of our conversation on the box. Some New tracks leftover from Radio, then I brought up WIBNTLA. He certainly understood I wanted it.

Are you saying that Al said there would be TWGMTR outtakes on the box set?

Yup. This was last August mind you. He said they were going to be doing some more vocals on some trackks. He mentioned Waves of Love specifically. Course, things change in time

[guitarfool2002]

Yeah, it was obvious that Al didn't remember the track. But it was cool that he promised me he would check it out for the boxset (he did confirm that a boxset was being compiled). I really stressed to him that the hardcore fans really wanted to hear it.

These guys sometimes or often don't pay attention to the minutae the way we do. I find it hilarious usually. Like the 90's interview footage where George, Paul, and Ringo are together and George can't remember what song is on what album. It's hilarious.

True, and there is also that bit edited together where they all start telling different versions of the same stories, I've referenced that before whenever someone gets miffed because Brian couldn't remember some part of Smile. 

But...consider that apart from George's lapse in memory there, he goes into very specific and very minute detail on various things in the Anthology book, and various interviews before and after, so it's not like his memory was totally shot. Little bits of events like them getting roughed up in the Philippines are brought out in amazing detail, probably because it affected them more than something the fans want to know.

Like anyone else who isn't a rock star, they hold some memories closer and remember them in more detail than others because the memories may be more cherished or important to them than, say, memories of the song "Take A Load Off Your Feet" might be to a BB's fan. 

[leggo of my ego]

I really enjoyed the Alan Boyd (?) version someone posted a few pages back. I have given that and the AMCB version quite a lot of plays this last week. 

Link seems to be gone, can someone please post it again?

[Jeff]

Yeah, it was obvious that Al didn't remember the track. But it was cool that he promised me he would check it out for the boxset (he did confirm that a boxset was being compiled). I really stressed to him that the hardcore fans really wanted to hear it.

These guys sometimes or often don't pay attention to the minutae the way we do. I find it hilarious usually. Like the 90's interview footage where George, Paul, and Ringo are together and George can't remember what song is on what album. It's hilarious.

True, and there is also that bit edited together where they all start telling different versions of the same stories, I've referenced that before whenever someone gets miffed because Brian couldn't remember some part of Smile. 

But...consider that apart from George's lapse in memory there, he goes into very specific and very minute detail on various things in the Anthology book, and various interviews before and after, so it's not like his memory was totally shot. Little bits of events like them getting roughed up in the Philippines are brought out in amazing detail, probably because it affected them more than something the fans want to know.

Like anyone else who isn't a rock star, they hold some memories closer and remember them in more detail than others because the memories may be more cherished or important to them than, say, memories of the song "Take A Load Off Your Feet" might be to a BB's fan. 

Didn't someone tell a story about Al being absorbed by the memory of an obnoxious goat from the Pet Sounds photo shoot?  Arguably the best album in the rock era, and Al's focus is on the goat.

That's not to make fun of him, just to say that memory is a funny thing.  Most of us don't remember the mundane details of our work, but if we're repeatedly attacked by an animal, even in a somehwat harmless way, it stays with us.

[runnersdialzero]

What else is there to say about Pet Sounds anymore, though? I'm basically tired of hearing about it at this point, I can't imagine how Al or anyone else feels when the billionth question about the Pet Sounds title or cover or whatever comes up.

[Shady]

If I was on a record like Pet Sounds I'd never want to hear the end of it.

[halblaineisgood]

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[Shady]

I made Pet Sounds, of course I do.

"The theremin was Carl's idea"

[Curtis Leon]

Doesn't BRI browse this board regularly?

[Wirestone]

Doesn't BRI browse this board regularly?

So we've been informed. But it doesn't seem like anyone is up to any shenanigans they would care about.

More's the pity, really ...

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Doesn't BRI browse this board regularly?

Oh most definitely yes. I tell you true, when the board went down for a bit I thought that had something to do with it. The timing was nuts.

[Myk Luhv]

I don't know if you're being facetious but if you're not, who at BRI would be doing that? I want that job!

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Not being facetious in the least.