Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again

[Dave Modny]

yup there is something fishy in that story. Why would one pay that much for tracks already available. And it is afterall not a rare find from the 60's or 70's but a very modern, uncool CD which was used as an early version of TWOTS, a follow-up to the successful SOS comp but with a rediculous cover and undistinguished  title failed to capture many buyers (I really wonder why they called it TWOTS and gave it that terrible cover rather than bind it closer to SOS - SURFBOARDS VERBOTEN, look at what happened to the dreadful 50BO comp).

There are people that collect promos, and pay a lot for them regardless of if there is unique material on them or not. That seems to be the case here.

I was going to mention the same thing. An in-house Capitol reference disc would carry a pretty good value among collectors. It obviously would normally have a more narrow slice of interested collectors if it didn't have a unique, never-even-booted song on it. But even a standard promo CD sent to radio, reviewers, etc. would carry a potential premium over a standard copy of the CD. If you add in the more unique elements (in-house Capitol item, alternate tracklisting, alternate tracks, documentation showing the vetting process and showing other potential tracks that also got dropped), a few hundred bucks for someone who is really into this stuff is not far-fetched.

That, and he already explained it pretty much exactly as such earlier in this thread (not that he even needs to). He simply collects promos and reference discs, and has been burned before in missing out on something unique.

[guitarfool2002]

yup there is something fishy in that story. Why would one pay that much for tracks already available. And it is afterall not a rare find from the 60's or 70's but a very modern, uncool CD which was used as an early version of TWOTS, a follow-up to the successful SOS comp but with a rediculous cover and undistinguished  title failed to capture many buyers (I really wonder why they called it TWOTS and gave it that terrible cover rather than bind it closer to SOS - SURFBOARDS VERBOTEN, look at what happened to the dreadful 50BO comp).

There are people that collect promos, and pay a lot for them regardless of if there is unique material on them or not. That seems to be the case here.

I was going to mention the same thing. An in-house Capitol reference disc would carry a pretty good value among collectors. It obviously would normally have a more narrow slice of interested collectors if it didn't have a unique, never-even-booted song on it. But even a standard promo CD sent to radio, reviewers, etc. would carry a potential premium over a standard copy of the CD. If you add in the more unique elements (in-house Capitol item, alternate tracklisting, alternate tracks, documentation showing the vetting process and showing other potential tracks that also got dropped), a few hundred bucks for someone who is really into this stuff is not far-fetched.

That, and he already explained it pretty much exactly as such earlier in this thread (not that he even needs to). He simply collects promos and reference discs, and has been burned before in missing out on something unique.

There is unique, and then there is this, which looks almost unprecedented. Have other run-of-the-mill BB's reference and/or promo CD's for otherwise uneventful albums projects sold for this kind of money?

[runnersdialzero]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y4f041Sd8Q

[the captain]

So to be clear, is one of you going to get me some free wine or not?

There is no appropriate emoticon.

[FatherOfTheMan Sr101]

Wouldn't It Be Nice (To Get On Topic)

[EgoHanger1966]

I think the most sensible thing to do in a situation like this is to calm the hell down! This thread runs the gamut, it's like the SS board in a capsule. From the most articulate and thought-out posts to the beggars and the demanders. The board went down, at the most inopportune time, I'm sure beachboys_fr got a little freaked*. Or, maybe he did get  contacted privately from Meland Melinda and co., and he's doing what he needs to do not get sued off his ass.

*If it was Brian, he'd have tried to burn the reference cd in the fireplace - but Al would have told him it's impossible, he'd tried it before.

[runnersdialzero]

So to be clear, is one of you going to get me some free wine or not?

There is no appropriate emoticon.

This chain of posts may be the best I've seen on this board. Maybe any board.

[runnersdialzero]

Wouldn't It Be Nice (To Get On Topic)

Wouldn't It Be Nice (If Nothing Has Changed And There's Sadly Not Much To Discuss Anymore *CRIES FOREVER*)

[Mikie]

This chain of posts may be the best I've seen on this board. Maybe any board.

And that's the most exaggerated statement that I've seen on any board.

Post of the day. Post of the week. Post of the month. Post of the year. All stupid.

Spark up another one.

[the captain]

This chain of posts may be the best I've seen on this board. Maybe any board.

And that's the most exaggerated statement that I've seen on any board.

Agreed.

[the captain]

Wouldn't It Be Nice (To Get On Topic)

Not especially.

[Dave Modny]

There is unique, and then there is this, which looks almost unprecedented. Have other run-of-the-mill BB's reference and/or promo CD's for otherwise uneventful albums projects sold for this kind of money?

I honestly haven't been following any recent eBay activity for this kind of stuff (e.g. unique promos, rare acetates, one-offs/near one-offs, even master tapes, etc.)

But...I'll say this much: Had the seller specifically noted in their description as to the exact holy-grail rarity that was enclosed within...it would've sold for a helluva lot more than 400 bucks...lol! I've seen wall posters sell for that much!

(And...there would have been more than five bidders)

[runnersdialzero]

This chain of posts may be the best I've seen on this board. Maybe any board.

And that's the most exaggerated statement that I've seen on any board.

Post of the day. Post of the week. Post of the month. Post of the year. All stupid.

Spark up another one.

Get mad about it.

[Mikie]

Here's one for ya, Runnerdialone:

Ya think the CD that the guy just bought for 400 smackers will still be valuable if WIBNTLA is released in the Made In California box?

[bgas]

There is unique, and then there is this, which looks almost unprecedented. Have other run-of-the-mill BB's reference and/or promo CD's for otherwise uneventful albums projects sold for this kind of money?

I honestly haven't been following any recent eBay activity for this kind of stuff (e.g. unique promos, rare acetates, one-offs/near one-offs, even master tapes, etc.)

But...I'll say this much: Had the seller specifically noted in their description as to the exact holy-grail rarity that was enclosed within...it would've sold for a helluva lot more than 400 bucks...lol! I've seen wall posters sell for that much!

(And...there would have been more than five bidders)

I'd be very surprised if the seller really knew what a rarity they had; they obviously were aware it was an in-house CD and therefore a rarity, but had they known exactly what they had there's no way they would have let it slip away. Not that I think they're sad about receiving $400 for a CD they were given for free  

[bgas]

Here's one for ya, Runnerdialone:

Ya think the CD that the guy just bought for 400 smackers will still be valuable if WIBNTLA is released in the Made In California box?

I do. Who's to say it's the same mix, for starters?

[runnersdialzero]

I think it's funny that a piece of cheaply made plastic sold for 400 dollars period. sh*t's crazy. I'm not criticizing anyone involved in any way, I understand how these things work, just... man.

[SurfRiderHawaii]

Yeah, I'd love to hear it. Nothing will happen if this gets out.

I'd rather wait to hear the remixed, remastered version on MIC. First time and all.

It already was remixed and mastered for The Warmth Of The Sun. There's no promise it'll be on Made In California, either.

Here's one for ya, Runnerdialone:

Ya think the CD that the guy just bought for 400 smackers will still be valuable if WIBNTLA is released in the Made In California box?

I do. Who's to say it's the same mix, for starters?

Yeah, whose to say?  

[Mikie]

There is unique, and then there is this, which looks almost unprecedented. Have other run-of-the-mill BB's reference and/or promo CD's for otherwise uneventful albums projects sold for this kind of money?

I honestly haven't been following any recent eBay activity for this kind of stuff (e.g. unique promos, rare acetates, one-offs/near one-offs, even master tapes, etc.)

But...I'll say this much: Had the seller specifically noted in their description as to the exact holy-grail rarity that was enclosed within...it would've sold for a helluva lot more than 400 bucks...lol! I've seen wall posters sell for that much!

(And...there would have been more than five bidders)

I'd be very surprised if the seller really knew what a rarity they had; they obviously were aware it was an in-house CD and therefore a rarity, but had they known exactly what they had there's no way they would have let it slip away. Not that I think they're sad about receiving $400 for a CD they were given for free

Beach Boys TWOTS CD compilation producer, Capitol Records: Cheryl Pawelski
Ebay Seller: Cheryl Pawelski

Sure she knows the original track listing and what a rarity it is!  Wouldn't be a bit surprised if she has more of 'em!

[The Shift]

Yeah, I'd love to hear it. Nothing will happen if this gets out.

I'd rather wait to hear the remixed, remastered version on MIC. First time and all.

It already was remixed and mastered for The Warmth Of The Sun. There's no promise it'll be on Made In California, either.

Yeah, whose to say? 

Wasn't it also prepared for the 5.1 Surf's Up DVD-A that was shelved?

[guitarfool2002]

The collector scoring such a unique item on Ebay makes my score of a Technics SL-D33 turntable for 10 bucks at the flea market this morning seem pretty insignificant...

[FatherOfTheMan Sr101]

The collector scoring such a unique item on Ebay makes my score of a Technics SL-D33 turntable for 10 bucks at the flea market this morning seem pretty insignificant...

Still Nice! HAHAHA!

[Shady]

There's no way this song can live up to the hype so were better off not hearing it 

[Mike's Beard]

Yeah, I'd love to hear it. Nothing will happen if this gets out.

I'd rather wait to hear the remixed, remastered version on MIC. First time and all.

It already was remixed and mastered for The Warmth Of The Sun. There's no promise it'll be on Made In California, either.

Yeah, whose to say? 

Wasn't it also prepared for the 5.1 Surf's Up DVD-A that was shelved?

Yes it's been shelved twice now. Personally I've reached the point where I feel the song cannot possibly hope to live up to all the hype that's been placed on it.

[SurfRiderHawaii]

There's no way this song can live up to the hype so were better off not hearing it  

After hearing Adam's version, I think it will live up to the hype. Though it is seldom hyped as a blockbuster, one of a kind classic, just as a superb song and the best of the unreleased BB material.

But apparently not memorable to Al Jardine, I asked him about it and he seemed to have no clue. He asked me three times to repeat the name of the song so he could remember to check it out for the boxset.