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Author Topic: Mike Love just announced a "Good Vibrations" Cruise  (Read 3435 times)
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« Reply #50 on: October 11, 2021, 12:01:14 AM »

Well I did allude to that point earlier in the thread, but it is once again the use of ĎThe Beach Boysí name rather than that of an individual. ĎBrian Wilsoní can do what he wants. ĎíThe Beach Boysí most of us hope would be somewhat selective.
Then your gripe is with the entity that allows Mike and Bruce to tour as The Beach Boys.

I think itís fairly obvious that Brian and Melinda donít want a legal scuffle with Mike this late in Brianís life. So, if Brian and Melinda love the money flow from Mikeís touring band (Iím sure itís really keeping a roof over their heads and food on their plates) then yeah we do have a partial gripe with them. But our gripe isnít limited to just them, but also to Mike and Bruce themselves who clearly see nothing wrong with calling themselves the beach boys when 2 out of 8(?) members are actually official members of the band. They honestly fit that cruise lineup perfectly.
I felt as you do once upon a time. I thought the band name should have been retired after Carl died.
So then what we would have had was Mike and Bruce touring under whatever name, doing a show of Beach Boys music. Just as we do with Brian and Al now. Brian's not out there trying to promote his solo albums - he and his group are performing a show of Beach Boys music.
So they might as well just call it the Beach Boys.

I totally get your perspective and have honestly cared less and less as time goes on about Mikeís control of the license. I guess at times I still get bitter about the state of the band right now. I just wish they were still making music together, still touring together, not boycotting their own music because of a stupid hunting gig. So when Mike does some gig I think is absurd, I knock it. But meanwhile Mike is out there helping his band members make a living - they all have jobs they love, they play a good show. So no, Iím not that pissed off about it. And on the flip side of that, Brian and his band are helping support their crew by keeping things the way things are (and if they joined The Beach Boys to create another supergroup again, theyíd clearly have to let some people go. So Iím sure everyone is mostly happy with the way things are - but what do I know?).

Idk, none of it is black and white - for the band(s), for the fans. If any of us had the power to take the license from Mike, would we really (OSD excluded Grin)?? A decision like that could alter a lot of lives. In the end would it be worth it? And thatís probably why Mike still tours as The Beach Boys.
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« Reply #51 on: October 11, 2021, 02:29:41 PM »

If the Good Vibrations cruise doesn't include great whale hunting as a deluxe excursion for the top payers with Eric and Don Jr. posing for pictures, this will be a complete rip off.
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« Reply #52 on: October 11, 2021, 02:39:49 PM »

Unrelated, but cruises have a horrific environmental impact and nobody should be going on them. It's honestly better to just fly to your destination rather than support an industry that runs on heavy fuel oils which heavily pollute the environment while also dumping the waste in the seas without treatment.

I don't blame them for it, but Mike and Bruce (and Brian and Al) should know better, especially for those who have been grandstanding with environmentally minded songs (SIP, DFTS, DGNTW, etc).
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« Reply #53 on: October 13, 2021, 09:29:12 AM »

I just see it as another way to piggyback an "anniversary" of some kind onto Mike's Beach Boys shows or events that would have happened the same way had there been an anniversary or not. What is truly special about this gig to bill it as an anniversary celebration? Mark McGrath? Will there be a giant cake with sparkler candles and a large "60" cake-topper decoration that Mike and Bruce will cut during each performance after white-gloved kitchen staff wheel it out onto the dance floor? Maybe it will be a fake cake that Stamos will jump out of? Who knows. 

Understanding this is only one gig, to promote it as a celebration tied into the 60th anniversary of "The Beach Boys", the details of which fans have been discussing a lot for obvious reasons, seems like a question of is this cruise celebrating the 60th anniversary of the Beach Boys, or is the 60th anniversary of the Beach Boys being used to sell and market a music cruise that would have happened anyway? Mike has been doing these cruises for years, as shown by the marketing department using the same erroneous copy about Endless Summer they used in 2010, verbatim.

The difference as pointed out by others in previous posts is that the band's name and history is on the marquee, versus the name of an individual band member. And that's been the difference the whole time this license setup has been in place. It's a different ballgame.
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« Reply #54 on: October 13, 2021, 09:30:32 AM »

Just an aside, the band The Surfragettes who are also on the bill are a great instrumental surf band whose music I really enjoy, really great stuff. Check them out!
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« Reply #55 on: October 13, 2021, 01:33:25 PM »

I just see it as another way to piggyback an "anniversary" of some kind onto Mike's Beach Boys shows or events that would have happened the same way had there been an anniversary or not. What is truly special about this gig to bill it as an anniversary celebration? Mark McGrath? Will there be a giant cake with sparkler candles and a large "60" cake-topper decoration that Mike and Bruce will cut during each performance after white-gloved kitchen staff wheel it out onto the dance floor? Maybe it will be a fake cake that Stamos will jump out of? Who knows. 

Understanding this is only one gig, to promote it as a celebration tied into the 60th anniversary of "The Beach Boys", the details of which fans have been discussing a lot for obvious reasons, seems like a question of is this cruise celebrating the 60th anniversary of the Beach Boys, or is the 60th anniversary of the Beach Boys being used to sell and market a music cruise that would have happened anyway? Mike has been doing these cruises for years, as shown by the marketing department using the same erroneous copy about Endless Summer they used in 2010, verbatim.

The difference as pointed out by others in previous posts is that the band's name and history is on the marquee, versus the name of an individual band member. And that's been the difference the whole time this license setup has been in place. It's a different ballgame.
Maybe it's time us REAL Beach Boys fans protest to BRI about the abomination that is Mike and Bruce as the touring Beach Boys.
Can we force their hand if we stop going to Mike and Bruce's shows?
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« Reply #56 on: October 13, 2021, 09:33:16 PM »


Can we force their hand if we stop going to Mike and Bruce's shows?


Way ahead of yaÖ.
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