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« Reply #350 on: August 13, 2022, 03:26:09 PM »

Happy birthday Billy!  Brian, Dennis, & Carl
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« Reply #351 on: August 13, 2022, 07:46:02 PM »

“Mr Clean Living” looking high af and smoking a cigarette.
i don't think Mike has ever denied doing a little reefer back in the day. He drew the line at hard drugs - and more power to him.
I find it odd that we diss the guy with the courage of good sense to stay away from cocaine and heroin and all the other bad stuff, while the worst abusers are thought of as nearly saintly.
At least Carl was strong enough to get off whatever he was on in Australia. I sure wish Dennis had followed his example.
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« Reply #352 on: August 13, 2022, 08:54:22 PM »

Happy birthday billy!

Thank you! I’m 44, look 54, feel 74, act 24. LOL
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« Reply #353 on: August 13, 2022, 08:55:02 PM »

Happy birthday Billy!  Brian, Dennis, & Carl

Thank you 😎
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« Reply #354 on: August 13, 2022, 09:00:32 PM »

“Mr Clean Living” looking high af and smoking a cigarette.
i don't think Mike has ever denied doing a little reefer back in the day. He drew the line at hard drugs - and more power to him.
I find it odd that we diss the guy with the courage of good sense to stay away from cocaine and heroin and all the other bad stuff, while the worst abusers are thought of as nearly saintly.
At least Carl was strong enough to get off whatever he was on in Australia. I sure wish Dennis had followed his example.


I wasn’t criticizing him for it! Just pointing out the fact that this was way before I was born; my earliest beach boys memory was the 86 anniversary special. Finding out he tried mescaline still blows my mind (pardon the pun). Hell, I keep having to go back and look at that stubbly Carl photo again. That was a really good look, but it just was so foreign to how I’m used to seeing him in that era that it just looks weird.
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« Reply #355 on: August 14, 2022, 03:14:01 AM »

“Mr Clean Living” looking high af and smoking a cigarette.
i don't think Mike has ever denied doing a little reefer back in the day. He drew the line at hard drugs - and more power to him.
I find it odd that we diss the guy with the courage of good sense to stay away from cocaine and heroin and all the other bad stuff, while the worst abusers are thought of as nearly saintly.
At least Carl was strong enough to get off whatever he was on in Australia. I sure wish Dennis had followed his example.


I don't diss Mike for staying away from hard drugs (though cigarettes are bad enough all on their own). Nor are my reasons for admiring Brian down to his substance abuse. I consider Brian far more talented and a more sympathetic person. And I think continually bringing up Brian's use of drugs is insensitive and self-satisfied of Mike. I don't smoke but I wouldn't continually criticise relatives who did - especially not if my career had been at the least significantly aided by their talent.
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« Reply #356 on: August 14, 2022, 06:45:45 PM »


At least Carl was strong enough to get off whatever he was on in Australia. I sure wish Dennis had followed his example.

As I understand it, Dennis kicked heroin, which reportedly was one of the things all three Wilson brothers were doing in Australia. Kicking "horse" is very difficult, but they did it. Unfortunately Dennis couldn't kick his other demons.
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« Reply #357 on: August 15, 2022, 06:55:29 AM »

I'm unhappy that this, as too many discussions about the Beach Boys, has devolved into talking of drugs. ALL of them are so much more than their drug use,  or lack of it.
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« Reply #358 on: August 15, 2022, 09:29:02 AM »

Same
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« Reply #359 on: August 15, 2022, 01:44:59 PM »


At least Carl was strong enough to get off whatever he was on in Australia. I sure wish Dennis had followed his example.

As I understand it, Dennis kicked heroin, which reportedly was one of the things all three Wilson brothers were doing in Australia. Kicking "horse" is very difficult, but they did it. Unfortunately Dennis couldn't kick his other demons.
That is good to hear.
I certainly wasn't trying to diss Dennis. Wish he was still here with us today.
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« Reply #360 on: August 16, 2022, 09:26:01 AM »

“Mr Clean Living” looking high af and smoking a cigarette.
i don't think Mike has ever denied doing a little reefer back in the day. He drew the line at hard drugs - and more power to him.
I find it odd that we diss the guy with the courage of good sense to stay away from cocaine and heroin and all the other bad stuff, while the worst abusers are thought of as nearly saintly.
At least Carl was strong enough to get off whatever he was on in Australia. I sure wish Dennis had followed his example.

I think the worst abusers are looked at sympathetically, not saintly, for their hard drug use. As for their psychedelic drug use, while many revere Brian's acid trips and marijuana use, I look at it with pure sadness....Brian says himself that the LSD usage shattered his mind. Studies have shown that marijuana actually triggers the part of the brain that harbors schizophrenia (in those predisposed to the illness). I have no idea if Brian heard voices before his first toke, but it certainly did not help his condition.

I admire Mike for staying away from all that stuff most of his life. I also feel sadness for the Wilson brothers who had a lot of demons they tried to silence with the use of hard drugs.

I would love to see an alternate reality where Brian and the rest of the guys never did drugs. Maybe Pet Sounds didn't happen in that alternate timeline. And I would happily trade/erase every memory of Pet Sounds from my mind and never hear it again if it meant Dennis was still with us, if it meant that Brian never shattered his brain with psychedelics, and perhaps if Carl didn't touch smokes he'd still be blessing us with his angelic voice.
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« Reply #361 on: August 16, 2022, 12:22:02 PM »

“Mr Clean Living” looking high af and smoking a cigarette.
i don't think Mike has ever denied doing a little reefer back in the day. He drew the line at hard drugs - and more power to him.
I find it odd that we diss the guy with the courage of good sense to stay away from cocaine and heroin and all the other bad stuff, while the worst abusers are thought of as nearly saintly.
At least Carl was strong enough to get off whatever he was on in Australia. I sure wish Dennis had followed his example.

I think the worst abusers are looked at sympathetically, not saintly, for their hard drug use. As for their psychedelic drug use, while many revere Brian's acid trips and marijuana use, I look at it with pure sadness....Brian says himself that the LSD usage shattered his mind. Studies have shown that marijuana actually triggers the part of the brain that harbors schizophrenia (in those predisposed to the illness). I have no idea if Brian heard voices before his first toke, but it certainly did not help his condition.

I admire Mike for staying away from all that stuff most of his life. I also feel sadness for the Wilson brothers who had a lot of demons they tried to silence with the use of hard drugs.

I would love to see an alternate reality where Brian and the rest of the guys never did drugs. Maybe Pet Sounds didn't happen in that alternate timeline. And I would happily trade/erase every memory of Pet Sounds from my mind and never hear it again if it meant Dennis was still with us, if it meant that Brian never shattered his brain with psychedelics, and perhaps if Carl didn't touch smokes he'd still be blessing us with his angelic voice.
I couldn't have said it any better. Thank you.
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« Reply #362 on: August 16, 2022, 01:28:05 PM »

A little late, but man, how can people forget THIS picture of Brian with a hat?
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« Reply #363 on: August 16, 2022, 02:19:40 PM »

I'm unhappy that this, as too many discussions about the Beach Boys, has devolved into talking of drugs. ALL of them are so much more than their drug use,  or lack of it.


Quoting my own post. You guys you just can't stop, I see.
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« Reply #364 on: August 16, 2022, 02:54:09 PM »

I'm unhappy that this, as too many discussions about the Beach Boys, has devolved into talking of drugs. ALL of them are so much more than their drug use,  or lack of it.


Quoting my own post. You guys you just can't stop, I see.

Zenobi, this is a message forum where discussions fluidly meander across many topics that do relate to the band. Discussions about POB can evolve into talking about Dennis' death, discussions about 'Let It Shine' can evolve into talking about Landy's psychological torment of Brian. Sometimes uncomfortable topics about the band are brought up - it's not against the rules nor is it taboo. It's just the way online forums work. If you feel bothered by a topic, you can easily scroll past...I do it often here and elsewhere.
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« Reply #365 on: August 16, 2022, 06:53:58 PM »

How *did* we get on this subject again, anyway?
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« Reply #366 on: August 16, 2022, 06:57:53 PM »

A little late, but man, how can people forget THIS picture of Brian with a hat?


lol that used to be my avatar here
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« Reply #367 on: August 17, 2022, 08:38:26 AM »

 Yes I remember! Much better than the mustard (though I love mustard!). Smiley
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« Reply #368 on: August 17, 2022, 01:26:58 PM »

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« Reply #369 on: August 21, 2022, 09:30:44 PM »

“Mr Clean Living” looking high af and smoking a cigarette.
i don't think Mike has ever denied doing a little reefer back in the day. He drew the line at hard drugs - and more power to him.
I find it odd that we diss the guy with the courage of good sense to stay away from cocaine and heroin and all the other bad stuff, while the worst abusers are thought of as nearly saintly.
At least Carl was strong enough to get off whatever he was on in Australia. I sure wish Dennis had followed his example.


The only reason anyone is dissing Mike is because he make such a stink about being clean living and he’s always criticizing the Wilson brothers’ substance use, when in the meantime he used drugs and smoked cigarettes too. In other words, people are criticizing his hypocrisy.

I’d also note that equating being able to get off hard drugs with “strength” is not accurate. Drug use and addiction have a lot of factors and putting it down to “strength” is essentially making a moral judgement about it.
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« Reply #370 on: August 22, 2022, 09:16:53 PM »

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“Mr Clean Living” looking high af and smoking a cigarette.
i don't think Mike has ever denied doing a little reefer back in the day. He drew the line at hard drugs - and more power to him.
I find it odd that we diss the guy with the courage of good sense to stay away from cocaine and heroin and all the other bad stuff, while the worst abusers are thought of as nearly saintly.
At least Carl was strong enough to get off whatever he was on in Australia. I sure wish Dennis had followed his example.


The only reason anyone is dissing Mike is because he make such a stink about being clean living and he’s always criticizing the Wilson brothers’ substance use, when in the meantime he used drugs and smoked cigarettes too. In other words, people are criticizing his hypocrisy.

I’d also note that equating being able to get off hard drugs with “strength” is not accurate. Drug use and addiction have a lot of factors and putting it down to “strength” is essentially making a moral judgement about it.

Completely agreed
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« Reply #371 on: November 30, 2022, 03:58:14 AM »

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« Reply #372 on: December 07, 2022, 03:20:55 PM »

Just watched videos from the last BW show — Pine Knob — not sure what to say. I appreciate everyone’s discretion, but now that a new months have passed, I wish we had a better understanding of what was going on. The show I saw a month and change before had rough moments, but it was recognizably part of the same continuum of shows I had seen dating back to 1999.

This was something else entirely. Love to all.
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« Reply #373 on: December 08, 2022, 06:41:11 AM »

Yes, I think that last run of shows Brian did was something that probably shouldn't have happened, for multiple reasons on multiple levels. As I said at the time, I suspect had they not been joint dates with Chicago, the tour may well have either not happened at all, or been canceled earlier on.

The shows did Brian no favors, and I don't think it was particularly fair to charge fans to see a show like that. I think all involved were stunningly lucky both Brian fans *and* Chicago fans were so sympathetic (and/or weren't paying attention) and that Brian's rough shape didn't become an even bigger blown-up story. I think Brian and everybody in his camp should, apart from everything else, be heartened by fact that his fans *didn't* come away from those shows frothing at the mouth angry and asking for refunds, because they understand Brian's deal and are the most sympathetic and empathetic to it.

There's an argument/discussion that could be had regarding whether some folks (whether it's participants in the shows, and/or fans) should have perhaps been *more* vocal about Brian being in such rough shape and questioning whether the shows should continue, but there was and is always plenty of time after the fact to wade into those issues if one is inclined to. I'm not quick to judge or assume what anybody else should have or could have done, while I'm also not opposed to having such discussions either. It's obviously a difficult, sticky situation for everybody.

By the end of the tour, I think even the most overly-forgiving fans at that point kind of just took a step back and realized these shows couldn't continue (and may well not happen again), and just hope that Brian's general health and well-being and happiness are in good shape, and it's just a case of not being in live singing performance shape. That's really the best we can hope for.
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« Reply #374 on: December 08, 2022, 10:50:05 AM »

I realize that I contributed to this thread months earlier, but I hadn't taken the time to actually watch footage from that last show. In large part, good-quality video and audio wasn't being regularly posted at the time. But yesterday my curiosity got the better of me.

More than anything else posted of Brian since the Landy years and immediately before, this is difficult stuff.*

As someone who cares about Brian and all the guys, I want them to be well and happy. Brian has from time to time let band members pick up missed lines, and he has pointed at Al to take lead vocals. But what I see in these videos is BW randomly shutting down in the middle of lines. He's not just quiet and reserved onstage, but withdrawn and morose. His range and pitch seem pretty much the same as the last 10-15 years, but that doesn't make up for the rest.

I agree that it's remarkable everyone gave Brian a sympathetic reaction. The headlines could have been vicious. For that matter, I wrote about the 80th birthday show I saw, but I don't know that I could have managed a piece about those later performances. I'm sure someone somewhere has heard rumors, but I've been reluctant to bug people because it seems tacky.

However, this does get me to a point I've never been to before.

Unless BW and his folks level with folks about what's going on -- and something clearly is -- he should not tour again. I don't think it's fair to sell tickets without more clarity about the role and capacity of the lead performer. This isn't part of the debate we've had for 23 years now about Brian touring. This is different. I think we all understands this, and I just wish everyone the very best.


* To be crystal clear, I do not believe BW is being manipulated or abused. This footage is difficult in other ways.
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