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Title: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: HeyJude on June 08, 2021, 06:20:25 AM
Here are 2022 tour dates for Brian Wilson (which, as we can imagine, are always subject to change). Archived 2021 dates and setlists are found below the 2022 schedule below:

2022:

with Chicago

June 7, 2022 -- Phoenix, AZ -- Ak-Chin Pavilion
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2022/ak-chin-pavilion-phoenix-az-4bb4d3ee.html)

June 9, 2022 -- Los Angeles, CA -- The Forum
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2022/kia-forum-inglewood-ca-5bb43f14.html)

June 10, 2022 -- Irvine, CA -- FivePoint Amphitheatre
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2022/fivepoint-amphitheatre-irvine-ca-43b4374b.html)

June 11, 2022 -- Concord, CA -- Concord Pavilion
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2022/concord-pavilion-concord-ca-3b4297b.html)

June 14, 2022 -- Salt Lake City, UT -- USANA Amphitheatre
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2022/usana-amphitheatre-west-valley-city-ut-63b40ec3.html)

June 16, 2022 -- Morrison, CO -- Red Rocks Amphitheatre
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2022/red-rocks-amphitheatre-morrison-co-2bb47406.html)

June 18, 2022 -- Maryland Heights, MO -- Hollywood Casino Amphitheatre
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2022/hollywood-casino-amphitheatre-maryland-heights-mo-7bb4627c.html)

June 20, 2022 -- Kansas City, MO -- Starlight Theater
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2022/starlight-theater-kansas-city-mo-53b44bd5.html)

June 21, 2022 -- Rogers, AR -- Walmart Arkansas Music Pavilion
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2022/walmart-amp-rogers-ar-2bb4404a.html)

June 24, 2022 -- Dallas, TX -- Dos Equis Pavilion
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2022/dos-equis-pavilion-dallas-tx-63b5aaeb.html)

June 25, 2022 -- The Woodlands, TX -- Cynthia Woods Mitchell Pavilion
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2022/cynthia-woods-mitchell-pavilion-the-woodlands-tx-33b59c99.html)

June 28, 2022 -- Tampa, FL -- MIDFLORIDA Credit Union Amphitheatre
June 29, 2022 -- Alpharetta, GA -- Ameris Bank Amphitheatre
July 1, 2022 -- Charlotte, NC -- PNC Music Pavilion
July 10, 2022 -- Mansfield, MA -- Xfinity Center
July 11, 2022 -- Holmdel, NJ -- PNC Bank Arts Center
July 13, 2022 -- Camden, NJ -- BB&T Pavilion
July 14, 2022 -- Bethel, NY -- Bethel Woods Center for the Arts
July 15, 2022 -- Wantagh, NY -- Northwell Health at Jones Beach Theater
July 17, 2022 -- Saratoga Springs, NY -- Saratoga Performing Arts Center
July 20, 2022 -- Noblesville, IN -- Ruoff Home Mortgage Music Center
July 22, 2022 -- Burgettstown, PA -- The Pavilion at Star Lake
July 23, 2022 -- Cincinnati, OH -- Riverbend Music Center
July 24, 2022 -- Tinley Park, IL -- Hollywood Casino Amphitheatre Chicago
July 26, 2022 -- Clarkston, MI -- DTE Energy Music Theatre

Other Dates:

August 7, 2022 - Kelowna, BC, Canada -- Rock The Lake Music Festival
September 21, 2022 - Knoxville, TN - Tennessee Theatre
September 22, 2022 - Nashville, TN - Ryman Auditorium
September 24, 2022 - Johnson City, TN - ETSU Martin Center for the Arts
November 18-20, 2022 - Mexico City, Mexico - Corona Capital Festival

 
Postponed European Dates (Rescheduled Dates TBD):

June 4, 2022 ó Da Groningen, Netherlands - De Oosterpoort
June 5, 2022 ó Lingen, Germany - Emsland Arena
June 7, 2022 ó Amsterdam, Netherlands - Koninklijk Theater Carrť
June 8, 2022 ó Antwerpen, Belgium - Openluchttheater Rivierenhof
June 11, 2022 ó Berlin, Germany - Tempodrom
June 16, 2022 ó Vitoria-Gasteiz, Spain - Azkena Rock Festival
June 21, 2022 ó Bradford, England - St. George's Hall
June 23, 2022 ó Brighton, England - Brighton Dome
June 24, 2022 ó London, England - Royal Albert Hall
June 25, 2022 ó Cambridge, England - Cambridge Corn Exchange
June 27, 2022 ó Glasgow, Scotland - SEC Armadillo
June 30, 2022 ó Nottingham, England - (Royal Concert Hall
July 1, 2022 ó Birmingham, England - Symphony Hall
July 3, 2022 ó Manchester, England - Bridgewater Hall
July 4, 2022 ó Liverpool, England - Royal Liverpool Philharmonic
July 6, 2022 ó Cardiff, Wales - Motorpoint Arena Cardiff
July 7, 2022 ó Bournemouth, England - Bournemouth Pavilion Theatre
July 8, 2022 ó Gateshead, England - Sage Gateshead


2021 Dates & Setlists:

August 29, 2021 ó Long Beach, CA - Terrace Theatre
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2021/terrace-theater-long-beach-ca-638cf24f.html)

August 31, 2021 ó San Diego, CA - Rady Shell at Jacobs Park
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2021/rady-shell-at-jacobs-park-san-diego-ca-5b8ce338.html)

October 5, 2021 ó Huntington, NY - The Paramount
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2021/the-paramount-huntington-ny-5b8ddf24.html)

October 6, 2021 ó Port Chester, NY - Capitol Theatre
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2021/capitol-theatre-port-chester-ny-238dd47b.html)

October 8, 2021 ó Wallingford, CT - Toyota Oakdale Theatre
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2021/toyota-presents-the-oakdale-theatre-wallingford-ct-438dcb4b.html)

October 9, 2021 ó Lowell, MA - Lowell Memorial Auditorium
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2021/lowell-memorial-auditorium-lowell-ma-2b8dc0a6.html)

October 10, 2021 ó Rochester, NY - Kodak Center
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2021/kodak-center-rochester-ny-538d3b75.html)

October 12, 2021 ó Albany, NY - Palace Theatre Albany
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2021/palace-theatre-albany-ny-738d2e19.html)

October 13, 2021 ó Morristown, NJ - Mayo Performing Arts Center
(SETLIST - Unavailable)

October 15, 2021 ó Washington, DC - Warner Theatre
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2021/warner-theatre-washington-dc-4b8d1b66.html)

October 16, 2021 ó Atlantic City, NJ - Mark G. Etess Arena - Hard Rock Hotel & Casino
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2021/hard-rock-live-at-the-etess-arena-atlantic-city-nj-b8d11e2.html)

October 17, 2021 ó Reading, PA - Santander Performing Arts Center
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2021/santander-performing-arts-center-reading-pa-7b8d0ed0.html)

October 19, 2021 ó Greensburg, PA - Palace Theatre
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2021/the-palace-theatre-greensburg-pa-7b8d024c.html)

October 20, 2021 ó Akron, OH - Goodyear Theater
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2021/goodyear-theater-akron-oh-538d7b45.html)

October 22, 2021 ó Nashville, IN - Brown County Music Center
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2021/brown-county-music-center-nashville-in-338d6cc5.html)

October 23, 2021 ó Waukegan, IL - Genesee Theatre
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2021/genesee-theatre-waukegan-il-5b8d6760.html)

CANCELED DATES:
September 16, 2021 ó Cabazon, CA - Morongo Casino Resort & Spa (RESCHEDULED 2022 DATE TBD)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on June 08, 2021, 06:22:07 AM
Here's the official flyer for the 8/29 show:

(http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=26749.0;attach=5368;image)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: mtaber on June 08, 2021, 07:57:04 AM
Glad to see him get outside the U.S.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: Emdeeh on June 17, 2021, 11:44:04 AM
New 2022 tour date for Brian, Al, and Blondie:
June 16 -- Vitoria-Gasteiz, Spain -- Azkena Rock Festival


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: Emdeeh on July 19, 2021, 11:26:54 AM
New 2021 US tour dates announced for Brian, Al, and Blondie:

Oct. 5 -- Huntington, NY -- The Paramount
Oct. 6 -- Port Chester, NY -- Capitol Theatre
Oct. 8 -- Wallingford, CT -- Toyota Oakdale Theatre
Oct. 9 -- Lowell, MA -- Lowell Memorial Auditorium
Oct. 10 -- Rochester, NY -- Kodak Center
Oct. 12 -- Albany, NY -- Palace Theatre Albany
Oct. 13 -- Morristown, NJ -- Mayo Performing Arts Center
Oct. 15 -- Washington, DC -- Warner Theatre
Oct. 16 -- Atlantic City, NJ -- Mark G. Etess Arena, Hard Rock Hotel & Casino
Oct. 17 -- Reading, PA -- Santander Performing Arts Center
Oct. 19 -- Greensburg, PA -- Palace Theatre
Oct. 20 -- Akron, OH -- Goodyear Theater
Oct. 22 -- Nashville, IN -- Brown County Music Center
Oct. 23 -- Waukegan, IL -- Genesee Theatre


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: feelintheflows on July 19, 2021, 12:47:59 PM
New 2021 US tour dates announced for Brian, Al, and Blondie:

Oct. 5 -- Huntington, NY -- The Paramount
Oct. 6 -- Port Chester, NY -- Capitol Theatre
Oct. 8 -- Wallingford, CT -- Toyota Oakdale Theatre
Oct. 9 -- Lowell, MA -- Lowell Memorial Auditorium
Oct. 10 -- Rochester, NY -- Kodak Center
Oct. 12 -- Albany, NY -- Palace Theatre Albany
Oct. 13 -- Morristown, NJ -- Mayo Performing Arts Center
Oct. 15 -- Washington, DC -- Warner Theatre
Oct. 16 -- Atlantic City, NJ -- Mark G. Etess Arena, Hard Rock Hotel & Casino
Oct. 17 -- Reading, PA -- Santander Performing Arts Center
Oct. 19 -- Greensburg, PA -- Palace Theatre
Oct. 20 -- Akron, OH -- Goodyear Theater
Oct. 22 -- Nashville, IN -- Brown County Music Center
Oct. 23 -- Waukegan, IL -- Genesee Theatre



Rochester!! Iíll be there, cuz I live there lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: myonlysunshine on July 19, 2021, 03:02:51 PM
I am really pumped that Brian, Al, and Blondie are playing the Capitol Theatre in Port Chester. I can't believe they're playing so close by to me. Definitely gonna go to it, I just wonder if they are gonna be offering any Meet and Greet packages. I missed out on my chance to attend a meet and greet with Brian, Al, and Blondie in January of 2020, thinking that there would be more opportunities later, and I've been kicking myself for that decision throughout this pandemic ever since. I do wonder if perhaps the pandemic is gonna make Meet and Greets a thing of the past. :(


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: All Summer Long on July 19, 2021, 06:47:56 PM
New 2021 US tour dates announced for Brian, Al, and Blondie:

Oct. 5 -- Huntington, NY -- The Paramount
Oct. 6 -- Port Chester, NY -- Capitol Theatre
Oct. 8 -- Wallingford, CT -- Toyota Oakdale Theatre
Oct. 9 -- Lowell, MA -- Lowell Memorial Auditorium
Oct. 10 -- Rochester, NY -- Kodak Center
Oct. 12 -- Albany, NY -- Palace Theatre Albany
Oct. 13 -- Morristown, NJ -- Mayo Performing Arts Center
Oct. 15 -- Washington, DC -- Warner Theatre
Oct. 16 -- Atlantic City, NJ -- Mark G. Etess Arena, Hard Rock Hotel & Casino
Oct. 17 -- Reading, PA -- Santander Performing Arts Center
Oct. 19 -- Greensburg, PA -- Palace Theatre
Oct. 20 -- Akron, OH -- Goodyear Theater
Oct. 22 -- Nashville, IN -- Brown County Music Center
Oct. 23 -- Waukegan, IL -- Genesee Theatre


Iím surprised theyíre back on the road this early. If I was anywhere near the ages of Brian, Al, or Blondie, Iíd hold off until 2022 if I thought I could.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: roffels on July 19, 2021, 08:51:54 PM
Anyone have presale passwords?
Thanks!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: 37!ws on July 20, 2021, 08:16:54 AM
Supposedly "SURFSUP" is the pre-sale password for all shows, starting today at 10:00am "local time." Well, the Mrs. and I have been trying for Waukegan since 10:00am our local time to no avail. Last I saw, it's definitely past 10:00am local time in that bustling metropolis of Waukegan.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: roffels on July 20, 2021, 10:57:08 AM
Supposedly "SURFSUP" is the pre-sale password for all shows, starting today at 10:00am "local time." Well, the Mrs. and I have been trying for Waukegan since 10:00am our local time to no avail. Last I saw, it's definitely past 10:00am local time in that bustling metropolis of Waukegan.
Yeah, I was struggling with that show as well for a couple hours. It's live now though.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on July 21, 2021, 10:57:50 PM
Cheapest seat in DC is $75, last time Brian was at the Warner, I paid nearly half that for a seat on the floor AND Jeff Beck was on the bill. I suspect this will be the trend in ticket pricing coming out of the pandemic...nevertheless, I'll be passing on this one.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: Crow on July 23, 2021, 11:45:20 AM
I just got my tickets for DC. I've seen Brian a bunch of times but its been a while, maybe the 50th with the boys and he's getting up there and I need to see him at least one more time. I couldn't be more excited!! (And Al and Blondie too!!) 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: marcella27 on July 23, 2021, 10:05:55 PM
Yes the prices for the DC show are brutal.  ButÖafter a year and a half of no live music, Iím desperate to go.  Which I suspect Ticketmaster is banking on.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: UEF on August 01, 2021, 06:45:37 AM
So I've got row 2 seats at the Albert Hall at the same time as I'm meant to be at Glastonbury (which is the other side of the country more or less, and not easy to get in or out of).

I'm conflicted as to what to do. This wasn't a problem before the reschedule.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: Hangon10 on August 06, 2021, 03:42:28 AM
I won't be going, the thought of having to endure Calif Girls would cause me great distress and send me to the Ladies Room,🤮.it will be played and played at their concerts, I just hope one day it will be omitted ( but it won't of course) .


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: Lonely Summer on August 06, 2021, 04:32:07 PM
I won't be going, the thought of having to endure Calif Girls would cause me great distress and send me to the Ladies Room,🤮.it will be played and played at their concerts, I just hope one day it will be omitted ( but it won't of course) .
Yeah, it's an awful song, right down there with Summer of Love and Hey Little Tomboy.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: Emdeeh on August 19, 2021, 05:07:34 PM
New date for Brian and co.:

Sept. 16 -- Cabazon, CA -- Morongo Casino Resort & Spa


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on August 20, 2021, 06:26:27 AM
New date for Brian and co.:

Sept. 16 -- Cabazon, CA -- Morongo Casino Resort & Spa

Thanks, I've added this to the top post.

I've seen a few shows here and there in the industry already being postponed/canceled *again* due to COVID numbers, so it'll be interesting to see if all of these shows happen as planned.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on August 20, 2021, 06:55:09 AM
New date for Brian and co.:

Sept. 16 -- Cabazon, CA -- Morongo Casino Resort & Spa

Thanks, I've added this to the top post.

I've seen a few shows here and there in the industry already being postponed/canceled *again* due to COVID numbers, so it'll be interesting to see if all of these shows happen as planned.

Also I saw in a few of those cases it was the artist pulling out for various reasons related to Covid protocol, like a venue not agreeing to require vaccination proof or testing at the door or something similar.

It's kind of ridiculous overall in my opinion but I'll leave at that. I hope the shows in the fall go on as planned, I'm looking forward to seeing Brian on the east coast again.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on August 20, 2021, 07:28:50 AM
At the rate things are climbing again, I'm less than optimistic about any of Brian's indoor shows happening this fall. Although, I think the only outdoor ones are in the next few weeks throughout CA?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: juggler on August 20, 2021, 07:51:16 AM
I reside part-time near Palm Springs, and I've noticed that the Indian casinos around there such as Morongo have been among the most aggressive businesses with respect to re-openings as well as among the most laissez-faire with respect to things like mask and vax requirements.  This isn't a value judgment, just an observation.  If the Sept show at Morongo doesn't happen, my guess would be it's because Brian and Al pull out of it, not because the venue got cold feet.



Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: Emdeeh on August 20, 2021, 12:30:55 PM
Some of the major promoters, such as Live Nation, are requiring proof of vaccination and/or a negative Covid test to enter venues. Not sure if the Brian gig is a Live Nation show or not.

I took a pass on a show by another act that recently appeared in the Atlanta area (even though this show had been postponed twice), because I still feel highly uncomfortable in crowds under the current circumstances. Fortunately, I was able to find someone to take my tickets, so it's only a lost opportunity.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: bossaroo on August 30, 2021, 07:11:46 PM
anyone see Bri & co last night? here's the reported setlist which looks great. has Brian done It's OK before?

CA Girls
Dance Dance Dance
I Get Around
Shut Down
Little Deuce Coupe
Little Honda
Salt Lake City
In My Room
Wake the World
Add Some Music
Don't Worry Baby
Darlin
Feel Flows
Long Promised Road
Sail On Sailor
Do It Again
Wouldn't It Be Nice
Sloop John B
God Only Knows
Good Vibrations
It's OK
Help Me Rhonda
Barbara Ann
Sufin USA
Fun Fun Fun
Love & Mercy


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on August 30, 2021, 07:22:04 PM
anyone see Bri & co last night? here's the reported setlist which looks great. has Brian done It's OK before?

Doesnít look like it though it was done on the 50th anniversary tour but I think this is the first time Brian has sung it since then. Thereís a video on Instagram of Brian singing ďAdd Some Music to Your DayĒ. He sounded good and sang all of the lead parts himself which he wasnít able to do on a lot of the songs when I saw him in 2019.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: Wirestone on August 30, 2021, 10:06:13 PM
For a post-C50 show, Brian sounds excellent! The rest seems to have done him good.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: Shady on August 30, 2021, 10:49:29 PM
Really don't agree with sending Brian out on tour given current circumstances


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: baseball95 on August 31, 2021, 12:13:10 AM
Brian sounds the best he has in several years absolutely but does anyone find it criminal that Blondie has more leads than Al now and the only new song they add is Itís Ok a song Brian has said makes him have bad memories? Their set lists have become so stale except for the that brief something great from 68 tour


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: twentytwenty on August 31, 2021, 04:39:32 AM
Brian sounds the best he has in several years absolutely but does anyone find it criminal that Blondie has more leads than Al now and the only new song they add is Itís Ok a song Brian has said makes him have bad memories? Their set lists have become so stale except for the that brief something great from 68 tour

I do like that they're incorporating Blondie more into the show. Al should have more leads than what he's currently having though.

I also think that they should give Brian some slight vocal tuning on these live shows, it's not a bad thing


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on August 31, 2021, 06:11:12 AM
Brian sounds the best he has in several years absolutely but does anyone find it criminal that Blondie has more leads than Al now and the only new song they add is Itís Ok a song Brian has said makes him have bad memories? Their set lists have become so stale except for the that brief something great from 68 tour

The setlist isn't too bad considering it's only a two-show run for their first shows in a year and a half. In the past when they've done a one-off or very short string of shows after a long lay-off, the setlists have not had like a bunch of new stuff or deep cuts. I doubt they did like weeks of rehearsals just for two shows. I'm surprised there's stuff like "Add Some Music" and "Wake the World" for shows like this. It's hard to call this a full meat-and-potatoes setlist when Blondie Chaplin is singing two songs from "Surf's Up" in the middle of the show. And "It's OK" *is* a weird surprise.

Al has always weirdly been underutilized for leads at Brian shows, ever since he joined up. They gave him more leads overall as time went by, but considering his voice is in better shape than any surviving BB, you'd think they'd give him a few more to sing.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on August 31, 2021, 06:21:23 AM
Here's the majority of "It's OK":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUsO5DLOHtk&list=FL0dftRhJ76dCyJthC4OcDRw&index=2

Can't tell if it's supposed to be a Matt lead or if he's just taking it over because Brian's not singing. Kinda seems like the latter as the verse starts. I dunno. The band and Matt sound excellent. Brian looks completely blank. I'm sure he's less so when he's more engaged singing a lead. But at this stage, if they want to do gigs, I'm not opposed to it being more of a "Brian Wilson Band" concert and have Brian just come on stage for a set of songs where it's mostly his leads.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: phirnis on August 31, 2021, 08:10:55 AM
It's OK is a nice surprise. Brian has stated that the song brings back bad memories but at the same time he has often called 15 Big Ones one of his favorites. Personally I love this song and I think it's one of his best 70s productions, with that massive synth bass riff and the powerful "Find a ride!" tag. Beautiful stuff! That said, it's obvious Brian didn't enjoy himself during the song's performance posted by HeyJude - to say the very least...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on August 31, 2021, 08:12:52 AM
Here's the majority of "It's OK":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUsO5DLOHtk&list=FL0dftRhJ76dCyJthC4OcDRw&index=2

Can't tell if it's supposed to be a Matt lead or if he's just taking it over because Brian's not singing. Kinda seems like the latter as the verse starts. I dunno. The band and Matt sound excellent. Brian looks completely blank. I'm sure he's less so when he's more engaged singing a lead. But at this stage, if they want to do gigs, I'm not opposed to it being more of a "Brian Wilson Band" concert and have Brian just come on stage for a set of songs where it's mostly his leads.

The problem with that is with Brianís mobility issues, itís easier for him to not leave the stage. But yeah, itís uncomfortable to watch when he just sits still like that. Itís a shame he doesnít even seem to attempt to sing backing vocals that much anymore.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on August 31, 2021, 08:50:31 AM
Here's the majority of "It's OK":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUsO5DLOHtk&list=FL0dftRhJ76dCyJthC4OcDRw&index=2

Can't tell if it's supposed to be a Matt lead or if he's just taking it over because Brian's not singing. Kinda seems like the latter as the verse starts. I dunno. The band and Matt sound excellent. Brian looks completely blank. I'm sure he's less so when he's more engaged singing a lead. But at this stage, if they want to do gigs, I'm not opposed to it being more of a "Brian Wilson Band" concert and have Brian just come on stage for a set of songs where it's mostly his leads.

The problem with that is with Brianís mobility issues, itís easier for him to not leave the stage. But yeah, itís uncomfortable to watch when he just sits still like that. Itís a shame he doesnít even seem to attempt to sing backing vocals that much anymore.

Yeah, I'm sure it's difficult to have him coming and going a lot. But I think they could set aside one mini-set or half-set of Al/Blondie/Matt/Darian songs where Brian can chill out. That would only require one additional instance of leaving and coming back (or none at all if they treated that mini-set as essentially an opening act where they moved all those songs to the beginning). It's not an ideal situation, but it might be better if they're intent on continuing to tour.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on August 31, 2021, 09:01:51 AM
The crowd loved it based on what I saw and heard, and "Love & Mercy" was fantastic. "Add Some Music" was another highlight. I enjoyed Blondie on "Long Promised Road", it's great they're pulling out some deeper cuts.

For me it was great just to see this band, Brian, Al, and Blondie on stage performing again. I think a certain complacency set in a few years ago where it seemed this show would always be there and available, and when it wasn't for so long and the possibility was real that we'd never see it again, it hit home that all great experiences are fleeting and have to be grabbed when you can grab them because they can disappear in a heartbeat. So seeing this show reminds me of what a great shared experience it always is to see these guys on stage and one not to be taken for granted. As the song says..."it won't last forever".


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: CakeMix on August 31, 2021, 12:06:08 PM
Here's the majority of "It's OK":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUsO5DLOHtk&list=FL0dftRhJ76dCyJthC4OcDRw&index=2

Can't tell if it's supposed to be a Matt lead or if he's just taking it over because Brian's not singing. Kinda seems like the latter as the verse starts. I dunno. The band and Matt sound excellent. Brian looks completely blank. I'm sure he's less so when he's more engaged singing a lead. But at this stage, if they want to do gigs, I'm not opposed to it being more of a "Brian Wilson Band" concert and have Brian just come on stage for a set of songs where it's mostly his leads.

Matt was talking to Brian and pointing at the teleprompter after the song started but Brian didn't budge. He and Al were signalling to the sound guy all night for one issue or another.

Earlier during Sail on Sailor Brian jumped in singing the first line. Al laughed and looked at Blondie. I thought we were going to hear a cool double lead with Brian and Blondie but Blondie started singing the first verse again and Brian just did some occasional chorus back ups vocals.

I agree with others in that Brian sounded really good. However by the 60 minute mark he seemed really tired, just pooped. I was surprised he was able to pull off Love and Mercy as good as he did.

The place was packed. I thought the last minute requirements for proof of vaccine or negative test would affect attendance.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: twentytwenty on August 31, 2021, 03:15:05 PM
Here's the majority of "It's OK":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUsO5DLOHtk&list=FL0dftRhJ76dCyJthC4OcDRw&index=2

Can't tell if it's supposed to be a Matt lead or if he's just taking it over because Brian's not singing. Kinda seems like the latter as the verse starts. I dunno. The band and Matt sound excellent. Brian looks completely blank. I'm sure he's less so when he's more engaged singing a lead. But at this stage, if they want to do gigs, I'm not opposed to it being more of a "Brian Wilson Band" concert and have Brian just come on stage for a set of songs where it's mostly his leads.

Yeah, they best and easiest way to utilize it is to them starting the show, taking a small break while Brian joins them for the second - smaller - set to where he sings his favorite songs to close it. I don't think anyone would mind this, I would actually rather go to a show that's set up that way, just let Jardine and Blondie get the spotlight at the beginning while ending in a big crowd pleasing crescendo with Brian taking over the show


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: send me a picture and i'll tell you on August 31, 2021, 04:52:28 PM

I also think that they should give Brian some slight vocal tuning on these live shows, it's not a bad thing

Problem with that is, if Brian is more than a quarter step off (which he often is), the autotune will flip him to the wrong note altogether, and it sounds like butt. (Remember the first few months of C50?)

Somebody would need to be at the board constantly reprogramming the autotune to the scale of the song currently being sungó diatonic plus any intended accidentals.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: send me a picture and i'll tell you on August 31, 2021, 04:55:48 PM
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Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: Lonely Summer on August 31, 2021, 07:23:46 PM
Is it possible that Al doesn't WANT to do a lot of lead singing? It makes no sense to me. Imagine if we still had Carl with us, and all he did in concert was sing God Only Knows, Good Vibrations, and strum an unplugged guitar.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on August 31, 2021, 07:34:25 PM
Any other decent clips out there?

"It's OK" is less than encouraging. I can't imagine that Brian said "yeah, let's do that one!" at this stage in his life. It's also not shoved in the big home-run stretch of greatest hits at the end of the show. At least Mike has the sense to blend it into the opening surf medley where it's among similar songs and suits the theme.

...and while the theme of the "tour" is the greatest hits, it would be great if this group abandoned that a bit and dug into the Feel Flows set even more so than throwing Blondie two leads from it. The possibilities are literally endless. They could do a show of JUST songs from the new set.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: Pretty Funky on September 01, 2021, 01:01:55 AM
Really don't agree with sending Brian out on tour given current circumstances

Have said the same before, and if you want proof itís not a good idea check out The Doobie Brothers. Less than one week into a reunion tour a fully vaccinated Michael McDonald is out with Covid.
For any older artist itís just nuts tbh.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on September 01, 2021, 06:42:09 AM
Is it possible that Al doesn't WANT to do a lot of lead singing? It makes no sense to me. Imagine if we still had Carl with us, and all he did in concert was sing God Only Knows, Good Vibrations, and strum an unplugged guitar.

I don't know that he actively doesn't want more leads. I think he just doesn't pursue it. He might suggest a song now and then. But he doesn't seem to burst into the room and ask for let alone demand more leads.

But he certainly can and has carried a show to much larger degree. He sings a lot of leads at his own solo shows, even with Matt there with him.

I think the deal is that these tours are not "Wilson, Jardine, & Chaplin" tours. It's still billed as a Brian Wilson show, with Al and Blondie as special guests. Now, I'd say Al in particular has reached a point in Brian's band where he functions pretty darn close to how he did during his years with the Beach Boys up through 1998. He's up front next to Brian, and serves as a right hand man for Brian to some degree the way Jeff Foskett used to on stage (I think Matt and Darian also function in this fashion as well). But he's clearly not getting in there and dictating a lot about the shows, either in terms of setlist or leads.

I think Al's 2006-2007 short stint with Brian's band didn't go quite as smoothly for a lot of reasons, and since rejoining post-C50, they have found a much better groundwork for Al being there.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on September 01, 2021, 08:54:11 AM
Iíve been saying for a long time that they should be equally billed, especially when it became apparent that Al was not just a special guest and a permanent fixture in the touring band. Maybe itís because theyíve built up the name ďBrian WilsonĒ to be a sort of brand at this point. Al seems to be a really humble guy and I give him a lot of credit for that. But theyíve been touring together for almost a decade now, I donít see any reason why it shouldnít be ďBrian Wilson & Al JardineĒ on the marquee. But like I said, Al is humble and it seems like he wants to be supportive of Brian above everything. I donít think he particularly cares that much if he gets a decent amount of lead vocals spots, though I agree that I think he should be more heavily featured.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: twentytwenty on September 01, 2021, 09:10:16 AM
Iíve been saying for a long time that they should be equally billed, especially when it became apparent that Al was not just a special guest and a permanent fixture in the touring band. Maybe itís because theyíve built up the name ďBrian WilsonĒ to be a sort of brand at this point. Al seems to be a really humble guy and I give him a lot of credit for that. But theyíve been touring together for almost a decade now, I donít see any reason why it shouldnít be ďBrian Wilson & Al JardineĒ on the marquee. But like I said, Al is humble and it seems like he wants to be supportive of Brian above everything. I donít think he particularly cares that much if he gets a decent amount of lead vocals spots, though I agree that I think he should be more heavily featured.

Yeah I totally get that they're trying to cash in on the Brian Wilson brand name more than anything else. But a show billed as "The Brian, Al & Blondie Show" would still carry the Brian Wilson name and I don't think they would lose any attendance, I would rather think that they would win some people because as I stated earlier, I would much rather go to that kind of show than the one they're doing now, I can't be all alone feeling like this


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on September 01, 2021, 09:57:10 AM
Iíve been saying for a long time that they should be equally billed, especially when it became apparent that Al was not just a special guest and a permanent fixture in the touring band. Maybe itís because theyíve built up the name ďBrian WilsonĒ to be a sort of brand at this point. Al seems to be a really humble guy and I give him a lot of credit for that. But theyíve been touring together for almost a decade now, I donít see any reason why it shouldnít be ďBrian Wilson & Al JardineĒ on the marquee. But like I said, Al is humble and it seems like he wants to be supportive of Brian above everything. I donít think he particularly cares that much if he gets a decent amount of lead vocals spots, though I agree that I think he should be more heavily featured.

I do think it's just a branding/prestige thing. Al seems to be fine with it.

Some venues have on occasion just gone ahead and billed as Brian and Al. That's how it looks on my ticket for a one-off San Francisco show in 2015 (which Blondie was also at of course):

(https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.18172-8/11782248_1613325075604183_2772940561016765542_o.jpg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=9267fe&_nc_ohc=7mQCL4Tbyu0AX-PyKp0&_nc_ht=scontent-sjc3-1.xx&oh=ebd340294463966c966800e66acae885&oe=615674C3)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on September 01, 2021, 07:22:32 PM
Rolling Stone Shared this clip on Facebook earlier of GOK from Sunday evening: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yae5rHkPEeE

It's a typical lackluster delivery from Brian. Meandering through a spoken style of singing, stopping to scratch his nose, missing cues...but then STUNNING the crowd and leaping up for that falsetto part on the round at the end of the song?!?!?! Where did THAT come from!?! Love it!

It seems to me, that Brian needs new challenges. He seems most engaged on stage when doing something he's never done, or at least doing it in a different way.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on September 02, 2021, 06:52:26 AM
Added the setlist for the 8/31 to the top post. Looks like it was the same setlist with one addition ("Do You Wanna Dance").


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: juggler on September 02, 2021, 09:30:19 AM
As a fan who has attended their shows, this is how I see it: Brian Wilson & Al Jardine, with special guest Blondie Chaplin, backed by one of the best bands in the business.

Brian and Al reconnecting at El Camino College in 1961 was ultimately the genesis of the entire Beach Boy thing.  As such, I think it's really great to see the two of them together on stage after all these years.

At the same time, I understand that Al Jardine isn't a name known to the general public in the same way that Brian Wilson is, so it's a marketing decision.  And God bless Al, he's not an egomaniac, so it is what it is.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: All Summer Long on September 02, 2021, 05:51:52 PM
As a fan who has attended their shows, this is how I see it: Brian Wilson & Al Jardine, with special guest Blondie Chaplin, backed by one of the best bands in the business.

Brian and Al reconnecting at El Camino College in 1961 was ultimately the genesis of the entire Beach Boy thing.  As such, I think it's really great to see the two of them together on stage after all these years.

Agreed, but I still think Al should receive co-billing.

Since I haven't seen B&A since 2017, can someone remind me which songs are Al leads in this tour (besides Help Me Rhonda, of course)?

Really don't agree with sending Brian out on tour given current circumstances

I agree. Having Brian, Al, and Blondie out there is pretty scary to me, for their health and for the audiences. Even if Brianís singing better, I donít feel safe enough to go to the closest show near me.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on September 05, 2021, 10:43:47 AM
As a fan who has attended their shows, this is how I see it: Brian Wilson & Al Jardine, with special guest Blondie Chaplin, backed by one of the best bands in the business.

Brian and Al reconnecting at El Camino College in 1961 was ultimately the genesis of the entire Beach Boy thing.  As such, I think it's really great to see the two of them together on stage after all these years.

Agreed, but I still think Al should receive co-billing.

Since I haven't seen B&A since 2017, can someone remind me which songs are Al leads in this tour (besides Help Me Rhonda, of course)?

Really don't agree with sending Brian out on tour given current circumstances

I agree. Having Brian, Al, and Blondie out there is pretty scary to me, for their health and for the audiences. Even if Brianís singing better, I donít feel safe enough to go to the closest show near me.

It's hard to specifically say what Al will sing, since he will often end up singing whatever Brian doesn't. The last time I saw them, Al basically sang the entire encore besides Help Me Rhonda, including Barbara Ann, Surfin' USA, Fun Fun Fun etc. ... same goes throughout the show.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: Curt Lambert on September 07, 2021, 08:28:09 AM
I have been to Brian's first two shows of the new tour.(8/29 and 8/31/21. Brian sang the majority of leads and was in very good voice. He sang all 3 verses of Sloop John B, a strong lead on surfin USA in the encore and the strongest lead on FunFunFun by him that I have heard in years. He did not sing much on Barbara Ann, but who can blame him? Personally I am so tired of this song - perhaps Brian is as well.

Brian sang a very strong lead on I Get Around,  DanceDanceDance, Salt Lake City, Good Vibrations, Do It Again, God Only Knows, California Girls, and strong bridges on Wouldn't It Be Nice and Long Promised Road. And a very good Love And Mercy.

Al sang leads on Help Me Rhonda and Wake The World, Barbara Ann, and one or 2 of the car songs.

Very good shows and Brian is in very good voice.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on September 07, 2021, 10:36:43 AM
I have been to Brian's first two shows of the new tour.(8/29 and 8/31/21. Brian sang the majority of leads and was in very good voice. He sang all 3 verses of Sloop John B, a strong lead on surfin USA in the encore and the strongest lead on FunFunFun by him that I have heard in years. He did not sing much on Barbara Ann, but who can blame him? Personally I am so tired of this song - perhaps Brian is as well.

Brian sang a very strong lead on I Get Around,  DanceDanceDance, Salt Lake City, Good Vibrations, Do It Again, God Only Knows, California Girls, and strong bridges on Wouldn't It Be Nice and Long Promised Road. And a very good Love And Mercy.

Al sang leads on Help Me Rhonda and Wake The World, Barbara Ann, and one or 2 of the car songs.

Very good shows and Brian is in very good voice.

That's great! Thanks for the review.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: juggler on September 08, 2021, 12:06:02 PM
Saw on instagram that Brian's show at Morongo (Cabazon Indian casino) that had been set for next week has been cancelled.
 Anyone happen to know why?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on September 08, 2021, 12:23:02 PM
Here's the venue's statement on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/MorongoCasino/status/1435413110555250693


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: Pretty Funky on September 08, 2021, 02:13:57 PM
A poster over at the EH Board has a source who says Brianís people werenít happy with the Covid protocols at the venue. Good.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: juggler on September 08, 2021, 03:27:25 PM
A poster over at the EH Board has a source who says Brianís people werenít happy with the Covid protocols at the venue. Good.

Ah, interesting.   Thanks for that info.  I had a hunch a few weeks ago that this might be a possibility.  I'm a part-time resident of the area and the perception that I have is that relative nonchalance about covid is the order of the day at those casinos.   I'm not knocking (or defending) them.  It is what it is.

In any case, this cancellation is no huge loss.  I was at what I think might have been Brian's most recent show in that area (summer 2019 at the Fantasy Springs casino in Indio), and the crowd there among the worst I've ever seen in terms of lack of appreciation for the material (e.g., so many people there on comp-ed tickets who seemed to have little to no idea who or what they were listening to; were walking out early; couldn't wait to get back to the casino buffet etc.)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on September 10, 2021, 06:42:51 AM
The plan at least is apparently for the Cabazon date to be rescheduled in 2022, so I've updated the top post schedule to reflect that.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: mtaber on October 04, 2021, 02:10:32 PM
Got my ticket to see Brian this coming Sunday in Rochester!  May very well be my last chance to see him, i canít wait!!!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on October 06, 2021, 07:20:40 AM
Last night's setlist is up on setlist.fm. Nothing major as far as new additions; looks like they did a bit of "Surfin'."

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2021/the-paramount-huntington-ny-5b8ddf24.html


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on October 06, 2021, 10:29:51 AM
But to be fair, for a show billed as a 'Greatest Hits' show, Salt Lake City, Wake the World, Add Some Music, Long Promised Road and Feel Flows are still pretty cool.



Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: Tony S on October 06, 2021, 12:33:11 PM
Just curious, any reason as to why Brian sang the 1st verse of Rhonda? Don't think I've ever seen that in all the years Al has been touring with him....it's Al's signature BB song.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: All Summer Long on October 06, 2021, 02:54:38 PM
Just curious, any reason as to why Brian sang the 1st verse of Rhonda? Don't think I've ever seen that in all the years Al has been touring with him....it's Al's signature BB song.

What?? Seems like poor Al is getting shoved out this year vocally.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: twentytwenty on October 06, 2021, 10:24:12 PM
Just curious, any reason as to why Brian sang the 1st verse of Rhonda? Don't think I've ever seen that in all the years Al has been touring with him....it's Al's signature BB song.

He completely destroyed it too unfortunately.

Besides that, he had feeling, when it happens it happens


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: Tony S on October 07, 2021, 04:05:34 AM
I watched the video of Rhonda on YouTube and I'm not sure what was going on there. Al looked like he didn't want to step on Brian's toes and Brian looked a bit out of it and his vocals were week anyway. Awkward moment for sure hope it does not occur


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: myonlysunshine on October 07, 2021, 08:21:33 AM
I attended the concert at the Capitol Theatre last night. Great show, and it had probably the most impressive live performance of Good Vibrations that I've personally gotten to experience in-person. Brian's singing was on-point and it had incredible energy throughout. Two friends of mine actually attended both the Huntington show and last night's show in Port Chester, and after the concert they talked to me about how Good Vibrations didn't have that same level of energy at the Huntington concert. Normally most live performances of Good Vibrations that Iíve seen suffer from not having cellos playing triplets during the choruses, like how they do on the studio recording, but last night even without any cellos it sounded awesome. The entire audience was on their feet the whole time during it.

I was also very impressed with Feel Flows Ė compared to past performances of Blondie singing Feel Flows live, this time around he switched up a few things in terms of how he sang it, and those changes made his performance sound much more soulful and spellbinding than in the past, although past performances have also sounded soulful. But it's difficult to describe, and unfortunately even though I managed to get a video of the performance (https://youtu.be/KUN2LsZ8Nqc (https://youtu.be/KUN2LsZ8Nqc)), the recording doesn't really fully capture just how amazing it sounded live. It's just different when you hear this stuff live and in-person, and this is one of the reasons why performances captured on cell phones are not authentic recreations of the actual concert experience by any means Ė you can't truly capture the energy and some of the sonic nuances of how this stuff actually sounds when there in-person.

Brian also performed lead Ė and sounded great doing so Ė on It's OK. My friends who attended the Huntington concert said that Brian also sounded really good doing It's OK on Tuesday night as well. He seemed into it Ė there was no hesitation or anything like that in his performance last night, so when Brian fell silent and didn't sing it at all at that one show around a month ago, maybe he didn't know/remember the words and fell silent because of that? Not sure, but he definitely appeared to enjoy singing the song last night.

The VIP experience was kind of a sh*t show if I'm being honest. I bought VIP tickets for me and a friend of mine back in July when the tour was announced, and it was never 100% clear what the VIP package was or was not supposed to contain. Originally a soundcheck performance was advertised, but then about a month after I purchased the package the mention of getting to see the soundcheck performance was removed. There was never any meet and greet advertised, which is fine because I figured there would be no meet and greets anymore due to Covid. But the soundcheck stuff being removed doesn't make much sense to me Ė it's no less safe than playing the concert itself, so I'm not sure why they are not offering it. And the thing is, I was charged for a soundcheck. That was one of the aspects that was much later confirmed by Future Beat (the company that I guess handles the VIP packages) to have been built into the price I paid for the package. Communication about the VIP package was awful Ė I didn't receive any notice of whether the VIP package would include a soundcheck, or how to receive the VIP items/merchandise until midday Tuesday. My friend and I even called the Capitol Theatre's box office separately the day prior to that (Monday), and they were just as in the dark as we were about whether or not there would be a soundcheck performance or what one needs to do to receive/redeem their VIP items/merchandise. They basically found out at the same time that my friend and I did, and it turns out that not only would there be no soundcheck performance, but also the items/merchandise would be mailed to us directly after the concert, but only after Ticketmaster emails us a voucher code that we need to input into Ticketmaster's website, and that voucher code would only be sent to us the day after the concert. It's as if they didn't have this stuff ready in time for the tour, and/or are counting on us to maybe neglect or forget about doing the whole voucher code stuff afterwards or something. I don't know, but it was handled very poorly by them overall, although at least they have since promised to issue a partial refund for the part of the VIP package that we paid for which was supposed to cover the soundcheck performance portion of it.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: BJL on October 07, 2021, 10:42:02 AM
I was at the show last night too! The crowd was pretty sparse in the balcony, unfortunately, but the energy level was very high, which made up for it.

I thought Brian was in pretty good form. His vocals were hit or miss as always, but there were a few verses where he really sounded very good, and he seemed pretty engaged, introducing songs and looking around, especially in the first half. It seems like heís starting to struggle with even some of the higher parts of Mikeís range on some songs, but when he dropped down into the bass, he sounded really good. I feel like Al is being a bit underutilized in the setlist as it stands - but I have a feeling that might be his choice, and he sounded great on the songs he did sing, as always. As myonlysunshine said above, Good Vibrations sounded about as good as Iíve ever heard it, as did California Girls, which for some reason just really bowled me over last night. The rest of the ďhitsĒ are what they are. Iím always very happy to hear them, and the band was in great form - but at this point Iíve seen Brian 15 or 20 times, and if I never had to hear him do I Get Around again, I probably wouldnít mind so muchÖ (Honestly, I think the rest of the audience seems to be leaning in that direction, as well. It feels like the audience has lost a good chunk of the older ďBarbara AnnĒ crowd that used to be a strong contingent at a lot of shows, and picked up a younger audience for whom Wouldnít it be Nice, Sloop John B, and God Only Knows are the absolute favorites, and the cheering and applause that greeted the Pet Sounds cuts at this show was no exception - definitely the highlight in terms of energy on stage and off. All of which is to say, Brian wasnít the only one who looked a little bored during Barbara AnnÖ)

The highlight for me was Blondie, though. Itís just great to see a musician on stage who doesnít feel bound by a ďbackingĒ role, who really lets loose on his instrument and vocals. Iím sure its not to everyoneís taste, but those are the cuts where they really feel like a real band, for me, with some charisma and freedom to cut loose a little. So Iím so grateful to Brian and everyone involved for keeping Blondie on the tour and paying such beautiful tribute to the spirit of Carl Wilson. And man, Feel Flows and Long Promised Road were *good* last night. Like best-Iíve-ever-seen good.

So, yea - it wasnít Something Great in í68, with half of Friends on the set list, but it wasnít billed as such, and I definitely had a big smile on my face on the way out!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: Emdeeh on October 07, 2021, 02:08:29 PM
Is that Rob Bonfligio or someone else, standing in Nicky Wonder's place?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: southbay on October 07, 2021, 02:42:18 PM
Is that Rob Bonfligio or someone else, standing in Nicky Wonder's place?

Sure looks like Rob



Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: twentytwenty on October 08, 2021, 09:36:17 AM
Yeah it definitely looks like Rob. Too bad he doesnít get any solos. I loved his take on donít worry baby when he was filling in for Matt


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: Rocker on October 09, 2021, 08:40:10 AM
I'm just watching a video of last night's show that Brian's Facebook account posted. It's "Sail on Sailor", great vocals by Blondie as usual. PLUS he also gets a long guitar solo on the fade out. Didn't hear that before. Pretty mindblowing


I wonder if they will add some more Sunflower/Surf's Up cuts. I could imagine Blondie doing a killer version of "It's about Time".


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: Competition Clutch on October 10, 2021, 10:12:18 AM
Saw Brian in Lowell, MA, last night.    Just to document for this era of Brian, he needs assistance and a walker to get on and off stage.   This arrangement eliminates the traditional encore curtain call.   The venue was very far from full, but there was a strong contingent of hardcore types who showed their love.    Band is top-notch as usual.   Brian vocal highlights for me were In My Room and Surfer Girl, and his best of the night:  Love and Mercy.   Also great were Matt Jardine on Don't Worry Baby, and Darian on Darlin' and I Can Hear Music.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: mtaber on October 11, 2021, 05:20:40 AM
I saw Brian at the Kodak Center in Rochester last night! Very nice venue, with approximately 60% of the seats taken. But a very enthusiastic crowd, including me screaming like a banshee! Brian was in great form, took a lot of leads and seemed very engaged generally.  It didnít look like Brian played at all while at the piano but thatís expected. Al didnít have to jump in mid-song to bail him out, lol.  Blonde didnít appear on stage till past the mid-point and sang Feel Flows, Long Promised Road and Sail on Sailor before again leaving the stage for a bit.  Al did Rhonda and had a couple of other leads.  Matt nailed Donít Worry Baby and was in great form, as was Darian for his leads on Darlin and one other.  Great band, that goes without saying.  Brian only looked disinterested during Barbara Ann, canít say I blame him.  Blondie roamed the stage when he didnít have a lead and Brian kind of looked at him like ďok, this guy is weird!Ē  Add Some Music was beautiful and Al mentioned the box set when introducing Blondie for Feel Flows. Absolutely a great night!  Oh, I also saw a guy wearing a Bruce Johnston ďGoing PublicĒ shirt - I told him there were probably more T-shirts sold for that album than actual album sales, he laughed and said ďthatís cruel but probably true!Ē


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: patsy6 on October 12, 2021, 02:37:54 PM
Yeah it definitely looks like Rob. Too bad he doesnít get any solos. I loved his take on donít worry baby when he was filling in for Matt
I saw them in Rochester on Sunday night. It's Rob.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: rab2591 on October 13, 2021, 07:23:49 AM
I saw Brian at the Kodak Center in Rochester last night! Very nice venue, with approximately 60% of the seats taken. But a very enthusiastic crowd, including me screaming like a banshee! Brian was in great form, took a lot of leads and seemed very engaged generally.  It didnít look like Brian played at all while at the piano but thatís expected. Al didnít have to jump in mid-song to bail him out, lol.  Blonde didnít appear on stage till past the mid-point and sang Feel Flows, Long Promised Road and Sail on Sailor before again leaving the stage for a bit.  Al did Rhonda and had a couple of other leads.  Matt nailed Donít Worry Baby and was in great form, as was Darian for his leads on Darlin and one other.  Great band, that goes without saying.  Brian only looked disinterested during Barbara Ann, canít say I blame him.  Blondie roamed the stage when he didnít have a lead and Brian kind of looked at him like ďok, this guy is weird!Ē  Add Some Music was beautiful and Al mentioned the box set when introducing Blondie for Feel Flows. Absolutely a great night!  Oh, I also saw a guy wearing a Bruce Johnston ďGoing PublicĒ shirt - I told him there were probably more T-shirts sold for that album than actual album sales, he laughed and said ďthatís cruel but probably true!Ē

This is amazing :lol glad you had a great time! My life is just too busy at the moment to get to one of these concerts. Hopefully there will be another opportunity when I'm less busy.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: Rocker on October 17, 2021, 08:38:11 AM
Brian's facebook account posted a audience shot video of "It's ok" from one of the most recent shows. Sounds good, although Brian seems to be short on breath. But then again you can't say too much because of the quality of the video/recording.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on October 22, 2021, 02:02:50 PM
Updated a bunch of setlist links in the top post schedule.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: roffels on October 24, 2021, 07:31:30 AM
I was pleasantly surprised by Brian's performance last night in Waukegan. I've been to a few shows these past 5 years and they were rough, Brian slurring words, strange timing and delivery of lines, missing words where Al would have to jump in, coughing into the microphone,  etc. There was none of that last night, Brian sounded great throughout.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: Rocker on October 25, 2021, 10:36:14 AM
Brian Wilson with Al Jardine Please Let Me Wonder 10-19-21


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2YXUbu2b6A


Maybe I'm wrong but it looks like Al is wiping away some tears. Of course it could be something else, but his brother died just a couple of weeks ago. I wonder if this was the reason.



EDIT:


Brian Wilson with Al Jardine It's Ok - Do It Again 10-19-21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yktDFfsXHI


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on October 25, 2021, 03:23:32 PM
Brian Wilson with Al Jardine Please Let Me Wonder 10-19-21


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2YXUbu2b6A



Thanks -- that's lovely. I remember saying after a 2015 concert -- this song, besides being one of my favorite deep cuts, is really perfect for Brian's current voice.



Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: Rocker on October 26, 2021, 11:37:24 AM
Brian Wilson, Al Jardine Wake The World/Add Some Music To Your Day 10-19-21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWQyp72MGcg


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: Rocker on October 30, 2021, 02:16:36 PM
Another mindblowing performance:


Feel Flows Ė Brian Wilson at the Capitol Theatre, 10/6/2021

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUN2LsZ8Nqc


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on October 30, 2021, 07:24:56 PM
Nice!



Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: UEF on November 02, 2021, 09:02:25 AM
The sheer fire of this 2002 performance posted just now by the official BW account

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CVxy0R_g-w9/?utm_medium=copy_link


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: Ragegasm, Coming Soon To A Dictionary Near You on November 02, 2021, 12:56:00 PM
The sheer fire of this 2002 performance posted just now by the official BW account

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CVxy0R_g-w9/?utm_medium=copy_link

Whoever does his social media got the date wrong. Thatís from 1999. Itís from the BRIAN WILSON IN TOUR DVD which was released around 2002/3.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: Wirestone on November 02, 2021, 06:09:19 PM
The sheer fire of this 2002 performance posted just now by the official BW account

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CVxy0R_g-w9/?utm_medium=copy_link

Whoever does his social media got the date wrong. Thatís from 1999. Itís from the BRIAN WILSON IN TOUR DVD which was released around 2002/3.

It's a bit of a composite performance, too, if I recall correctly. The video on the DVD comes from a bunch of different shows, all edited together.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: rab2591 on November 03, 2021, 02:11:52 AM
The sheer fire of this 2002 performance posted just now by the official BW account

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CVxy0R_g-w9/?utm_medium=copy_link

"Stop clapping! Stop clapping!.......Ready now, one, two, three, CLAP!"

Gotta be pretty awesome to be led musically by BW like that at a concert.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: GuyO on November 19, 2021, 01:03:15 PM
Brianís UK / European 2022 has been cancelled, although he plans to tour there again in 2023. I received an e-mail from Ticketmaster concerning the Amsterdam show I was supposed to attend.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on November 19, 2021, 06:33:03 PM
Brianís UK / European 2022 has been cancelled, although he plans to tour there again in 2023. I received an e-mail from Ticketmaster concerning the Amsterdam show I was supposed to attend.

Was a reason given? I wonder if this is a clue of anything to come next summer for the 60th......


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: Lonely Summer on November 19, 2021, 07:31:27 PM
Brianís UK / European 2022 has been cancelled, although he plans to tour there again in 2023. I received an e-mail from Ticketmaster concerning the Amsterdam show I was supposed to attend.
I think that's being very, very optimistic, Brian touring again in 2023.
Oh yeah, and he's gonna do a rock and roll album.
 :billy2


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: GuyO on November 19, 2021, 09:36:36 PM
ďWe would like to inform you about the concert by Brian Wilson on 7 June 2022 (original date 22 June 2020, which was previously moved to 13 June 2021) in Koninklijk Theater Carrť.

Message from the promoter:
Due to Covid 19-related scheduling constraints, Brian Wilson is regrettably having to reschedule his 2022 UK and European tour to 2023. Unfortunately, no alternative date has been found for the show in Koninklijk Theater Carrť, that was planned for 7 June 2022. Therefore, this show will be cancelled.

In an official statement Brian Wilson said:
ďWe are SO sad that we have to once again push our tour due to the constantly changing and challenging issues overseas surrounding the Covid 19 pandemic. Me and the guys were looking forward to seeing everyone, eating great food and performing.  But with routing impossible and needing to keep our touring group safe we need to postpone. Such a bummer. I miss Europe I MISS London and all of the UKÖ. My second home. Send good vibes that we will be out of this soon. Stay safe everyone.

Love & Mercy
Brian WilsonĒ


You will receive a full refund of your ticket. You don't have to do anything for that yourself. We aim to refund the purchase amount plus service costs to the account number the tickets were purchased with within a few weeks.

Please donít hesitate to contact us if you have any questions. Due to the large number of questions we receive right now, the response time at our customer service may be longer than usual.

Best regards,
Team Ticketmasterď


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: GuyO on November 19, 2021, 09:39:10 PM
After reading again I should correct myself: only the Amsterdam show has been cancelled. As far as I can tell all other UK/Europe shows are to be rescheduled.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: UEF on November 20, 2021, 11:30:34 AM
Well Iím happy. I had good seats, and I was double booked. And now, I hope, Iím not.

No email though


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on December 01, 2021, 06:51:42 AM
Updated the top post with the new tour dates with Chicago next year, and also updated that the European dates are once again postponed.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: HeyJude on January 27, 2022, 09:14:36 AM
Made some updates to the top post in the thread to make things cleaner for 2022.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: joe_blow on May 09, 2022, 11:17:14 AM
Brian is heading up to Kelowna, BC this summer. https://www.castanet.net/news/Kelowna/368394/Outdoor-music-festival-Rock-the-Lake-returns-to-Prospera-Place
Looks like a great lineup, especially for those who grew up listening to Canadian artists. Note that Chilliwack has a few Beach Boys sounding songs:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1tczMnoRek



Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: HeyJude on June 07, 2022, 10:28:29 AM
Updated the top post with some additional dates.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: Rocker on June 08, 2022, 07:14:30 AM
Looks like this was Brian's setlist in Phoenix:


Brian Wilson
1. "California Girls"
2. "Do It Again"
3. "I Get Around"
4. "Shut Down"
5. "Little Deuce Coupe"
6. "Surfer Girl"
7. "Salt Lake City"
8. "Surfin' Safari" (Live debut by Brian Wilson)
9. "Don't Worry Baby"
10. "Sloop John B" (traditional cover)
11. "Wouldn't It Be Nice"
12. "God Only Knows"
13. "Darlin'"
14. "Add Some Music to Your Day"
15. "I Can Hear Music" (Ronettes cover)
16. "Wild Honey"
17. "Long Promised Road"
18. "Sail On, Sailor"
19. "Good Vibrations"
20. "Help Me, Rhonda"
21. "Surfin' U.S.A."
22. "Love and Mercy" (Brian Wilson song)




https://ultimateclassicrock.com/brian-wilson-chicago-summer-2022-tour-launch/?fbclid=IwAR3sgfGwPayxm7YqPNoJ41CXllzoZ682Zcbu9h1G4EXfCmyiG5F2JODyhgI


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on June 08, 2022, 07:19:35 AM
That seems like a pretty good setlist for a meat-and-potatoes, greatest-hits kind of crowd.

"Surfin' Safari" = "live debut by Brian Wilson"? That can't be right, can it?  ???



Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: Ragegasm, Coming Soon To A Dictionary Near You on June 08, 2022, 08:20:50 AM
Heís never performed it live until now. Brian never really did some of the early surf and car songs (like the ones Mike would do) on his early solo tours.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on June 08, 2022, 08:22:44 AM
Glad Blondieís singing Wild Honey again. He absolutely kills on that song and I never thought his voice fit Feel Flows which heíd been doing instead for a while.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: Ragegasm, Coming Soon To A Dictionary Near You on June 08, 2022, 08:42:34 AM
Glad Blondieís singing Wild Honey again. He absolutely kills on that song and I never thought his voice fit Feel Flows which heíd been doing instead for a while.

And on a tour where youíre playing the outdoors, you want stuff that rocks and the live Wild Honey checks that particular box off.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: HeyJude on June 08, 2022, 08:42:51 AM
Not really surprising since Al usually gets little to no input on these setlists and doesn't get a ton of lead vocals, but you'd think they'd consider doing "California Dreamin'" since the '86 BB recording is very prominently featured in the most popular TV show at the moment, "Stranger Things." I know Brian's never done it with Al at his shows, but Al and Brian sang it on the 50th Beach Boys tour, and it was actually kinda cool to hear Brian take a few Carl lead spots on that tour.

I could easily envision Al having no idea the song is even in the show. He didn't do the song at his last couple of recent "Family & Friends" gigs either. But nevertheless, it's probably the most Al-centric song to be licensed and featured this prominently in a TV show or movie.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: marcella27 on June 08, 2022, 09:17:02 AM
I really hope someone here posts a review of one of the Beachago shows (and yes, thatís how Iím referring it). Very surprised to see such a short set list from Chicago and also surprised they played first. Maybe they are repeating the format of previous Beachago tours where they would alternate which band played first or second. Does anyone know if there was any cross-pollination of the bands, so to speak?  Iím hoping theyíll swap leads on a couple of songs or do an encore togetherÖ


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: Ragegasm, Coming Soon To A Dictionary Near You on June 08, 2022, 09:55:47 AM
I really hope someone here posts a review of one of the Beachago shows (and yes, thatís how Iím referring it). Very surprised to see such a short set list from Chicago and also surprised they played first. Maybe they are repeating the format of previous Beachago tours where they would alternate which band played first or second. Does anyone know if there was any cross-pollination of the bands, so to speak?  Iím hoping theyíll swap leads on a couple of songs or do an encore togetherÖ

When I looked at Setlists.fm, it said the Chicago set that was listed was incomplete.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: Tony S on June 08, 2022, 09:57:13 AM
From the setlist I saw Chicago only did like 8 songs, one of which was the new song opener. Can that be right? If I was a Chicago fan there to them perform, I'd be really ticked off!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: Emdeeh on June 08, 2022, 10:51:01 AM
I've seen a longer setlist for Chicago on another message board.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: HeyJude on June 08, 2022, 11:28:12 AM
Yeah, I know some Chicago songs run longer than some early BB songs, but that setlist seems way too short. I can't imagine they didn't do significantly more songs than that.

One of the obvious drawbacks of setlist.fm; it's all user-generated and some people just enter partial setlists from memory. Which then encourages the weird pedantic, obsessive people who squat on that site 24/7 waiting to find something to correct, to edit a 20-song setlist like 37 times.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: parlay on June 08, 2022, 01:47:04 PM
The set list that was published on Ultimate Classic Rock for Chicago was a partial set list.    My question to all is who played first?


thx
Parlay


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: Ragegasm, Coming Soon To A Dictionary Near You on June 08, 2022, 03:22:26 PM
I've seen a longer setlist for Chicago on another message board.

They apparently did Wishing You Were Here with the BW Band.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: baseball95 on June 08, 2022, 05:12:46 PM
Just saw an instagram video of Matt singing God Only Knows last night. It seems Brian is no longer singing God Only Knows in his live shows. PS:Matt does do a great job!

https://instagram.com/stories/hey.its.sooz/2856277194799179710?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igshid=NmZiMzY2Mjc=


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: HeyJude on June 09, 2022, 06:43:06 AM
The set list that was published on Ultimate Classic Rock for Chicago was a partial set list.    My question to all is who played first?


thx
Parlay

I'd have to guess Brian opened and Chicago closed. That would make sense in terms of the advertising materials and what the expectations would be from the audience.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: send me a picture and i'll tell you on June 10, 2022, 12:34:03 AM
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Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: HeyJude on June 10, 2022, 06:01:12 AM
Good Vibrations:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v7FbtF3OTvU

Brian seems rested and focused. During the last tour his spirit had pretty much left his body by this point in the show.

Looks like that video was just posted, but comes from the December 2018 Christmas tour. It would help if the people posting the videos put the date in the actual video title instead of only in the description; I've run into this myself, seeing what I think is a new video only to find someone has randomly just posted a live video from several years back.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: HeyJude on June 10, 2022, 06:38:35 AM
Added a new date in November in Mexico. The gaps in the various tour schedules for any substantive reunion activities is closing quickly.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: louielouie on June 10, 2022, 01:27:20 PM
Added a new date in November in Mexico. The gaps in the various tour schedules for any substantive reunion activities is closing quickly.

This are great news for us Mexican fans, Brian visited Acapulco when he played in Trůpico festival 6 years ago.
I hope to see him (and Al, Blondie and the band) for the second time, I couldnít be happier!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: send me a picture and i'll tell you on June 10, 2022, 06:59:46 PM
Good Vibrations:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v7FbtF3OTvU

Brian seems rested and focused. During the last tour his spirit had pretty much left his body by this point in the show.

Looks like that video was just posted, but comes from the December 2018 Christmas tour. It would help if the people posting the videos put the date in the actual video title instead of only in the description; I've run into this myself, seeing what I think is a new v ideo only to find someone has randomly just posted a live video from several years back.

Thanks. I actually searched for videos posted in the last day, and thatís what
I got.  >:(


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: send me a picture and i'll tell you on June 11, 2022, 09:34:57 PM
June 7, Phoenix, AZ:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=evx9dWcKpHw

Quite a decline from last year, Iím afraid. Particularly in the second half.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: juggler on June 12, 2022, 12:40:43 AM
I was at the Concord Pavilion show last evening (June 11).
I arrived a bit late and certainly missed at least a couple songs.  This is what I heard, from memory, probably slightly out of order....

...
Don't Worry Baby
Wild Honey
Long Promised Road
Wouldn't It Be Nice
Sloop John B
God Only Knows
Darlin (with guest horns from Chicago)
Be My Baby
Heroes & Villains (with cantinq section)
I Can Hear Music
Sail On Sailor
Good Vibrations
Help Me Rhonda
Surfin USA
Love & Mercy


A few comments...  God bless Brian.  Things appear to have gotten a bit more difficult for him than when I last saw him & Al & Blondie live in 2019, and I'd be lying if I said that Brian's vocals are what they were 5 or 10 years ago, but hey the man is a week shy of 80, and he's still out there doing his thing. And as long as he wants to do it, I'm more than happy to support him and his great band.  The crowd was generally more Chicago-oriented than Beach Boys-oriented, but for the most part the crowd was very respectful and warm toward Brian. And it's always nice to be among a few hardcore BB/BW fans here and there in the audience (e.g., to the guy in sitting up front in a Smile shop t-shirt, well-played... ).


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: Emdeeh on June 12, 2022, 06:31:48 AM
Is Brian or Chicago playing first?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: Ragegasm, Coming Soon To A Dictionary Near You on June 12, 2022, 06:51:54 AM
Is Brian or Chicago playing first?

Brian. Heíll be opening  for the entire tour.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: juggler on June 13, 2022, 12:54:35 AM
Brian is a legendary giant of popular music in a way that the Chicago guys really aren't, so on one level it seems a little weird, on paper, for him to be the opening act.  Having seen the show, though, it makes total sense.  By playing first, Brian obviously can call it a night much earlier than if he played 2nd.  And let's face it, in 2022, more of the audience is there to see Chicago than  the Brian-Al-Blondie act.  Ultimately, though, ignoring everything else, it makes sense for Chicago to go 2nd just on the basis that their act is much more of an extravaganza than the Brian-Al-Blondie act.  And I mean, MUCH MORE.  They've got video montages and flashing lights and special effects. And it's quite the spectacle.  For the average person in the audience, the Brian-Al-Blondie act would seem like an anticlimax just on the basis of presentation. With respect to Brian's show, I'm very much reminded of Dennis Wilson's famous quote, "The music is the superstar of the group."  And that's still the case. The focus is on doing justice to the songs rather than being showmen.  


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: Ragegasm, Coming Soon To A Dictionary Near You on June 13, 2022, 06:15:15 AM
Brian is a legend. But in terms of the market, Chicago is a much bigger name.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: mtaber on June 13, 2022, 05:59:49 PM
When Brian opened for Paul Simon many years ago, I left after Brian did his set out of respect for him.  And I like Paul Simon, but Brian should never open for anyoneÖ Heís BRIAN FREAKING WILSON!!!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: Lonely Summer on June 13, 2022, 07:22:28 PM
If it was the Beach Boys as a band, and just a couple Chicago guys touring under the name Peter Cetera, I guarantee you Cetera would be opening.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: All Summer Long on June 14, 2022, 07:07:48 PM
Has there been any audio or video found from this tour yet? Iíve planned to go but am a little worried about how Brianís voice might sound.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: HeyJude on June 15, 2022, 06:45:09 AM
When Brian opened for Paul Simon many years ago, I left after Brian did his set out of respect for him.  And I like Paul Simon, but Brian should never open for anyoneÖ Heís BRIAN FREAKING WILSON!!!

To each their own of course; Paul Simon is right up there though. Also, Simon was much of a known quantity as a touring act in 2001 with a more established touring fan base. Also, Brian signed up for being the opener on the tour in all of these cases, both in 2001 and now.

The only tour where I think the situation should have been reversed was the 2013 Beck tour, because I think that was a ton of Brian/BB fans, hot off the heels of the acclaimed C50 2012 reunion tour, seeing a 2013 Brian show and band that was essentially as much of a continuation of the 50th anniversary tour as they could muster on stage, having to sit through a set of instrumental Jeff Beck stuff that is most certainly *not* the same as high-energy well-known stuff like "25 or 6 to 4" (however much Chicago has a tribute band vibe now, the tribute band singer guy seems to be able to hit the notes, and the band is professional-sounding, etc.).

Where I think you'd see a good hunk of the 2001 Paul Simon audience or 2022 Chicago audience leaving before Brian's set if he closed, I don't think that many folks would have been leaving if Jeff Beck opened those 2013 dates.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: bonnevillemariner on June 15, 2022, 09:08:40 AM
A few thoughts from the concert last night in Salt Lake City...

This is my first time seeing Brian perform, so I have nothing to gauge this against. Unfortunately, I can't imagine that this wasn't my final opportunity to see him perform live.

Brian opened for Chicago, which was absolutely appropriate. Chicago had all the energy of their old days and a new album due out this summer. They were absolutely incredible. I've always lamented the fact that Chicago and Peter Cetera parted ways and that they haven't performed together since. The new tenor vocalist, Neil Donnell, is the first Cetera replacement that actually does a decent Cetera. I sure a good chunk of the audience had no idea he wasn't Cetera. Older dude with the voice of a 30 year old Cetera. Kudos there.

But back to Brian and the band. There were some spine tingling moments for sure: a lifelong fan seeing Brian in person for the first time, Darian's lead vocals, Blondie's guitar riffs.

--Brian is mostly absent, vocally, which I expected, but I had to wonder if he was more absent than the band expected. There were several tracks where it seemed like they expected Brian to take a lead vocal, but he didn't, resulting in songs with no first verse as the rest of the guys tried to figure out who would cover for him. You'd think they'd make a plan like, "ok, Brian's slated to take this lead. If he doesn't, that goes to you, Matt." And maybe they had contingency plans, but it sure didn't seem like it. I found myself relieved when a song came up where I knew definitively that somebody was assigned a lead and they knew it.

--Al, strangely, was also pretty absent. I think he sang lead on only one song (Help Me Rhonda). Like Brian, Al used a... shorthand style of singing, for lack of a better word. I *think* he sounded good, but I had no way of knowing because he kept turning away from the mic. He introed a few songs and stumbled with wording each time. Weird.

--Matt seems to have taken most of both Al and Brian's leads. At least he was the one who'd eventually pick up a lead when Brian would stop. Matt sounded so, so good. I don't know how he does it, but he can sound impeccibly like Al, Brian and Mike as the need arises.

--Darian-- flawless. I love his energy. Chicago's horn section joined him for a song.

--Blondie was NUTS. Wow. I've read they added Blondie to the touring group back in the day because of the energy he brought. Makes sense. He was a much needed shot in the arm last night-- dancing all over, crazy guitar solos. I left the venue a new Blondie fan.

--I was very much hoping for "Wishing You Were Here" with Chicago, but sadly that didn't happen.

--Love and Mercy was touching with sparse instruments that showcased the band's angelic harmonies. It was the only song I felt Brian made a legit attempt at, and he got a standing O at the end. I'm so grateful to have witnessed and participated in it, because I know what that means to him.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: juggler on June 15, 2022, 09:22:33 AM
--Love and Mercy was touching with sparse instruments that showcased the band's angelic harmonies. It was the only song I felt Brian made a legit attempt at...

That's interesting.  On Saturday in Concord, I thought his strongest, most enthusiastic vocal was on "Be My Baby."


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: Pretty Funky on June 15, 2022, 01:28:31 PM
Off topic, but for anyone wondering what Blondies off-sider Ricky is up to, he was backing Bonnie Raitt last night on Stephen Colbertís show.

https://youtu.be/fvufkSHyM-Y


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: marcella27 on June 19, 2022, 09:41:29 AM
Off topic, but for anyone wondering what Blondies off-sider Ricky is up to, he was backing Bonnie Raitt last night on Stephen Colbertís show.

https://youtu.be/fvufkSHyM-Y

Maybe youíre just joking, but calling Ricky an offsider is a bit of a putdown, considering one could argue that Ricky is a better musician than Blondie (and I say that as a huge fan of Blondie).  I canít remember where, but Iíve read interviews with Carl where he talks about Ricky being able to play anything. Like, he came across a steel pedal guitar for the first time and within hours was playing it competently. That kind of thing. I believe he was playing drums professionally as a child and won a contest for South Africaís best drummer or something like that. Heís a pretty outstanding musician. Heís been part of BRís band for years.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: Pretty Funky on June 20, 2022, 12:31:18 AM
Offsider as in a fellow South African and member of The Flame. Their individual musical abilities didnít even get considered.
A classic case of lost in translation. A friend and partner best describes my countries definition.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: marcella27 on June 20, 2022, 01:34:44 PM
Offsider as in a fellow South African and member of The Flame. Their individual musical abilities didnít even get considered.
A classic case of lost in translation. A friend and partner best describes my countries definition.

Ah!  Yes, the joys of English, where a word means one thing in one country and a completely different thing in another. Point taken!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: Wirestone on June 20, 2022, 06:43:06 PM
Just saw Brianís set in Kansas City. A shaky start, and heís no doubt diminished as a live performer. However, he sang God Only Knows (for perhaps the first time this tour) and gave his utmost on several other leads. Perhaps it was the good vibes from the birthday video showed before the set, but the whole performance wound up being surprisingly soul-affirming and joyous. More details later.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: Awesoman on June 21, 2022, 05:04:56 AM
Al Jardine shared video his wife took of the band and crowd wishing him a happy birthday and offering him a cake.  Brian looked like he had no clue where he was.  It was hard enough watching him get to his piano using a walker but all reports of the tour I've read so far suggest the man's pretty checked out at this point.  In all honesty if his handlers allowed him to retire I'd rather see him enjoying a nice steak every week while watching a 24-hr "Norbit" channel.  No idea what exactly Brian wants himself but I think the guy has given us enough of his time.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: mtaber on June 21, 2022, 05:14:12 AM
ďIf his handlers allowed him to retireĒ?  GeezÖ


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: rab2591 on June 21, 2022, 06:05:58 AM
Al Jardine shared video his wife took of the band and crowd wishing him a happy birthday and offering him a cake.  Brian looked like he had no clue where he was.  It was hard enough watching him get to his piano using a walker but all reports of the tour I've read so far suggest the man's pretty checked out at this point. In all honesty if his handlers allowed him to retire I'd rather see him enjoying a nice steak every week while watching a 24-hr "Norbit" channel.  No idea what exactly Brian wants himself but I think the guy has given us enough of his time.

Funny you say ďIíd rather see him do this and thisĒÖ.in merely one sentence you go from complaining that Brian is controlled to stating your wishes about what youíd like to see him doing. I hope you can see the irony.

Ever think that Brian may not want to sit his ass in front of a TV all day these days? Ever think that maybe, just maybe, he isnít controlled and he just wants to be active and surrounded by his music loving friends? Iím sure all of us have witnessed elderly people having to give something up - be it driving, woodworking, etc. It really sucks to witness that. Brian isnít hurting anyone here, heís not a danger to himself or to others by singing his songs. If Brian didnít want to do it he would be sitting at home right now.

Take the ďhandlersĒ sh*t to the EH dumpster where it belongs.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: Awesoman on June 21, 2022, 07:22:31 AM
Easy there, Rab.  I'm merely just stating my feelings on this.  No need to take this so personally. 


Funny you say ďIíd rather see him do this and thisĒÖ.in merely one sentence you go from complaining that Brian is controlled to stating your wishes about what youíd like to see him doing. I hope you can see the irony.

Let's not grasp at straws, shall we?  I can be deliberately glib at times with my words but if you took away from my comments that I'm trying to "control" the guy myself, then I have a bridge to sell you.  I'm not stating I know what's best for the guy; he simply just does not look well at all ever since his surgery and although he was never comfortable on stage, it seems really pronounced at this point.  All I'm suggesting is that if he'd rather not be out there, he deserves to do what he wants.  If touring and performing is indeed what he wants to do then guess what?  You can agree to disagree with my comments. 

Ever think that Brian may not want to sit his ass in front of a TV all day these days? Ever think that maybe, just maybe, he isnít controlled and he just wants to be active and surrounded by his music loving friends? Iím sure all of us have witnessed elderly people having to give something up - be it driving, woodworking, etc. It really sucks to witness that. Brian isnít hurting anyone here, heís not a danger to himself or to others by singing his songs. If Brian didnít want to do it he would be sitting at home right now.

It's honestly next to impossible to tell what the guy wants due to his erratic behavior due to his mental illness.  Perhaps he does indeed want to keep performing and if that's the case then more power to him.  But his actions have always spoken louder than his words.  Hell, back in the early 70's all he seemed to want to do is stay in bed.  Do we honestly and sincerely believe that he is truly still "calling the shots" in his life?  It isn't exactly clear that he's been doing that at all since the 60's. 

Take the ďhandlersĒ sh*t to the EH dumpster where it belongs.

As someone who posts semi-regularly both here and on the EH board and has had no issues with either, I find this whole "rivalry" between the two message boards to be laughably ridiculous. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: rab2591 on June 21, 2022, 08:00:49 AM
In all honesty if his handlers allowed him to retire

You realize everything that this implies? It implies that Brian isn't allowed to make big decisions in his life. It implies that if Brian is being forced against his will that every person in Brian's life (from Darian, to Al, to Brian's own children and good long-time friends, to his wife) don't stand up and speak out on his behalf...that they are ignoring what seems to be obvious to armchair quarterbacks watching YouTube clips, but they themselves are either clueless, or in on it, or are spineless.

So yeah, if I sound pissed I'm just tired of reading these claims that imply a lot of awful things about the great people in Brian's life.

If Brian didn't want to do any of this he would refuse to get out of bed. He would tell his doctors. He would tell his friends. But guess what, his friends all say he wants to be out on the road. But yet for some reason people on the internet don't believe that and keep fueling these silly theories that Brian has no control over his own life.

As for the ridiculousness of the board feuds....most of the people who claim that Brian is controlled, most of the people with an ax to grind with Melinda are on that forum, most people with a history of talking sh*t about Melinda or Brian's life are on that forum. Which is why I say that this sh*t belongs there. Has nothing to do with forum "rivalry".


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: Awesoman on June 21, 2022, 08:24:33 AM
In all honesty if his handlers allowed him to retire

You realize everything that this implies? It implies that Brian isn't allowed to make big decisions in his life. It implies that if Brian is being forced against his will that every person in Brian's life (from Darian, to Al, to Brian's own children and good long-time friends, to his wife) don't stand up and speak out on his behalf...that they are ignoring what seems to be obvious to armchair quarterbacks watching YouTube clips, but they themselves are either clueless, or in on it, or are spineless.

So yeah, if I sound pissed I'm just tired of reading these claims that imply a lot of awful things about the great people in Brian's life.

If Brian didn't want to do any of this he would refuse to get out of bed. He would tell his doctors. He would tell his friends. But guess what, his friends all say he wants to be out on the road. But yet for some reason people on the internet don't believe that and keep fueling these silly theories that Brian has no control over his own life.

You're reading way too deep into my initial comments.  Exactly what it is that Brian wants has been (understandly) scrutinized and discussed/debated endlessly by fans for years.  Especially due to the Landy years of him being a prisoner basically to that guy, people are going to wonder how much control he has in his life.  That's just the way it is.  I don't suggest he's being held at gunpoint or being abused, or even that the people around him have malicious intentions.  But even to this day he has folks that seem to "push" him to be active when he truly at this point looks physically and mentally checked out.  It's not a crime to question these things as none of us can read his mind.  

As for the ridiculousness of the board feuds....most of the people who claim that Brian is controlled, most of the people with an ax to grind with Melinda are on that forum, most people with a history of talking sh*t about Melinda or Brian's life are on that forum. Which is why I say that this sh*t belongs there. Has nothing to do with forum "rivalry".

Uh, sounds like it has absolutely everything to do with rivalry then.  


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: rab2591 on June 21, 2022, 08:38:21 AM
I'm not reading into anything deeply. You straight up claimed that Brian has handlers that don't allow him to do a certain thing (retire)....that just flat out implies certain things. If you can't see that then so be it.

And as for forum "rivalry", that implies some competition or superiority. I am not claiming one thing or another about us winning or dominating anything, just stating a fact that a lot of prominent posters there have claimed Melinda is controlling, have claimed that Brian is controlled by handlers, etc, and that such talk would seem to belong there since many* (edited out "most" as I have no idea how many people there actually believe this nonsense) people there agree with this claim of Brian not being able to retire due to his "handlers".


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: Awesoman on June 21, 2022, 08:57:32 AM
I'm not reading into anything deeply. You straight up claimed that Brian has handlers that don't allow him to do a certain thing (retire)....that just flat out implies certain things. If you can't see that then so be it.

Does Brian not have handlers then?  Is he totally calling all the shots?  No management to speak of?  No influence in decision making of his career from his wife?  And for the record, the term "handlers" doesn't automatically imply anything negative.  Virtually every entertainer has handlers.  My usage of the word was not intended to be derogative.  That's why you're reading into this too deeply. 

Check out this Facebook post from the Chicago band celebrating Brian's birthday and take a look at the kind of comments it's getting:

https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=595353031949347&set=pcb.595362301948420

Those comments and that image of Brian are exactly why some folks question these things.  That maybe Brian doesn't want to be there.  And it's perfectly understandable and okay to question these things.  Isn't that the point of these forums is to be allowed have these type of discussions? 



Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: rab2591 on June 21, 2022, 09:12:04 AM
You simply wrote "if his handlers allowed him to retire".

No other entertainer ever (outside of some Landy-esque sociopathic control) has handlers who wouldn't allow them to retire. I'm merely replying to what you said. Your usage of the term "handler" became derogatory when you claimed that they are impeding his ability to make a very important life choice. Again, if you can't see this, so be it.

And some comments on social media doesn't prove anything. It is ONE moment/snapshot from Brian's birthday - talk about reading too deeply into things. Goodness gracious.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: Awesoman on June 21, 2022, 10:02:52 AM
You simply wrote "if his handlers allowed him to retire".

No other entertainer ever (outside of some Landy-esque sociopathic control) has handlers who wouldn't allow them to retire. I'm merely replying to what you said. Your usage of the term "handler" became derogatory when you claimed that they are impeding his ability to make a very important life choice. Again, if you can't see this, so be it.

If you wish to nitpick my phraseology then more power to you.  Like I stated before I can be deliberately glib with my words at times.  But I think I've made it clear in elaborating what I meant with those words so to continue to sit on that phrase by taking it too literally is silly.  Because again I don't believe that Brian is being held at gunpoint or that he is being treated maliciously.  However I personally believe at least in some capacity that the reason Brian "wants to be out there" has more to do with his wife and others close to him wanting him to keep going.  Why do you think some folks have an axe to grind with Melinda in the first place?  Hasn't she allegedly clashed with most of the other Beach Boys including Carl and Mike in the past?  Didn't she even fuel a legal battle with Joe Thomas after Imagination came out?   Didn't Brian's own daughter Carnie once refer to her as "Me-landy"?  Perhaps these questions are unfair to Melinda as I admit I don't know her personally and in all honesty I don't really even "take a side" with her.  But I'll ask again: do we honestly and sincerely believe that Brian is truly still "calling the shots" in his life?  

I don't have any idea what the truth is, but where there's smoke there's a fire.  Brian's a complicated guy and completely a hard read due to his lifelong illness.  So maybe he really does want to be out there performing despite the fact that he looks moreso than ever completely miserable at times.  I just don't think it's completely unfair to consider that there is a good chance that maybe he doesn't actually want to continue performing.  If I'm ultimately wrong in that assessment then so be it.  But it isn't an unfair assessment to make.  



Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: joe_blow on June 21, 2022, 10:11:52 AM
As much of you accuse Awesomeman for not knowing what is really happening, you seem pretty sure from the other point of view that Brian would not be doing tings if he didn't want to.
Are you certain about that? There are many accounts of Brian's handlers pushing Brian for better or worse.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: rab2591 on June 21, 2022, 10:23:56 AM
I have faith that if Brian were being pushed in a direction that was impacting his overall happiness and health, that the good people who have been around Brian for the last 20+ years would have the human decency to stand up for him (if Brian really was in a situation that he could not have the final say in)...including his daughters and close friends.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: Peadar 'Big Dinner' O'Driscoll on June 21, 2022, 10:31:16 AM
Sad to see him moving so slowly on the walker but think the whole Birthday oddness was just a Brian thing.

You're expecting him to say "Thanks" or something, he doesn't...probably just feeling a bit awkward or lost for words at that moment.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on June 21, 2022, 10:54:13 AM
Are we REALLY starting this crap with Melinda AGAIN?! Seriously?!

Iím trying to choose my words very carefully as Iím not trying to let my emotions cloud what Iím about to say, but dammit itís hard.* Brianís going to be the same at this point whether he is on stage or not. Him being active is likely far better for him mentally and emotionally than staying at home because some of his alleged fans think they know everything. I didnít want to get too personal but f*** it. Iím not well, and am now on disability. People fucking treat me like a fucking helpless child in my real life and I hate it more than I can possibly express into words. I also suffer from mental illness and severe depression, and every day is a struggle not to opt out. Every day of my miserable life. I have things aside from my family that keep me going, mainly creating music. When the day comes where Iím no longer able to do that, Iím out. If I was forced to quit?! Hell no. Over my dead body. Now I donít know what itís like to be 80 years old with schizo-affective disorder , nor have I experienced half of what Brian has gone through. I donít know what itís like to have audio hallucinations, at least not with voices (Iíve heard music in my head my entire life but not counting that ). What I DO know if that Brian and those close to him have stated how important the outpouring of love and support he gets from the fans live is incredibly important and dear to Brian. Now if you REALLY think taking that away from Brian and leaving him home feeling the exact same way only minus something thatís pushing him to keep going??? f*** that noise. What do you wanna do, put him in a damn rest home?! This has nothing to with board vs board, this is a manís life, someone weíre allegedly all fans of, right? Trust me, seeing Brian like this depresses the hell out of me. But what is worse is the fact that heís not going to be doing this much longer one way or another. Stay home and donít watch. But have some damn decency and let the man do what he wants.


*giggity.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on June 21, 2022, 11:00:50 AM
I have faith that if Brian were being pushed in a direction that was impacting his overall happiness and health, that the good people who have been around Brian for the last 20+ years would have the human decency to stand up for him (if Brian really was in a situation that he could not have the final say in)...including his daughters and close friends.

Thank you. I mean sh*t, I know certain people have an axe to grind with Melinda, but how about his kids? Carnie and Wendy obviously, but Daria, Delaney , and Dylan are all adults too and Iím certain they take a vested interest in their fatherís care and well being. But the way some of these monsters act online  youíd think everyone would be huddled in a fucking circle chanting to Baal on how to make him suffer the most , like he doesnít have anybody who loves and cares about him. 😒 

News flashÖnot everyone in the world is devious and thinks like that. Hey, I live in Texas, trust me I know many people on this world are cruel and hateful , but not everyone. There are still good and decent people on this world. Maybe not so much on beach boys forums .


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: Awesoman on June 21, 2022, 11:36:08 AM
Billy,

I'm truly sorry to hear of your struggles and your health issues.  I'm glad to hear that you have creating music to keep you happy.  But if your comments were directed at me, I hope you can understand that by no means do I have any ill intentions here.  My main point is that I'm concerned that Brian simply doesn't look great out there onstage, his health at this point is a valid concern, and if there is any possibility that he doesn't want to be up there on stage then I hope he gets the opportunity to do what he wants.  That was all I was trying to say.  If he wants to continue to perform until he drops then more power to him.  I do stand by my assessment that I believe his life is at least somewhat directed for better or for worse, but that does not automatically mean I think his team are actively abusing him.  Can two things not be true at the same time?  And as I stated before I also don't have any ill feelings towards Melinda as I am largely indifferent to her; I'm just not oblivious as to why others have taken issue with her in the past.  Doesn't mean I have any "axe to grind" with her at all.  And having these concerns about the situation by no means makes me a "monster"; I care about the guy's well-being just as much as anyone even if we don't see it the same way.  Brian's overall health has been a topic of discussion amongst fans for almost as long as his overall career has lasted and it is inevitable that discussion and debates will arise from it.  We've pretty much exhausted this exchange for today so I don't plan on following up, but I would appreciate keeping the civility here even if some of you don't like or agree with my take.  


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: Ragegasm, Coming Soon To A Dictionary Near You on June 21, 2022, 11:36:17 AM
I saw the show in St. Louis and my impression of Brian was similar to Clayís.  Brian took the lead on God Only Knows and I think the mind and the heart were willing but the body wasnít.  But, you know what happened? When the song was over, he got a standing ovation.  After the show, I overheard a couple walking two steps behind talking about the show.

HIM: Brian, man. It wasnít happening for him tonight.

HER: I know, but I figured this would be my only chance to see him.

HIM: You know what, though? You gotta remember one thing: he wrote ALL of that sh*t!


If I had been walking alongside them instead of ahead of them, I would have responded ďyouíre Gosh Darn right he did.Ē Brianís shows are like church to me.  As long as he continues, I will keep going.




Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on June 21, 2022, 01:21:50 PM
L&M Billy.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on June 21, 2022, 01:44:45 PM
Billy,

I'm truly sorry to hear of your struggles and your health issues.  I'm glad to hear that you have creating music to keep you happy.  But if your comments were directed at me, I hope you can understand that by no means do I have any ill intentions here.  My main point is that I'm concerned that Brian simply doesn't look great out there onstage, his health at this point is a valid concern, and if there is any possibility that he doesn't want to be up there on stage then I hope he gets the opportunity to do what he wants.  That was all I was trying to say.  If he wants to continue to perform until he drops then more power to him.  I do stand by my assessment that I believe his life is at least somewhat directed for better or for worse, but that does not automatically mean I think his team are actively abusing him.  Can two things not be true at the same time?  And as I stated before I also don't have any ill feelings towards Melinda as I am largely indifferent to her; I'm just not oblivious as to why others have taken issue with her in the past.  Doesn't mean I have any "axe to grind" with her at all.  And having these concerns about the situation by no means makes me a "monster"; I care about the guy's well-being just as much as anyone even if we don't see it the same way.  Brian's overall health has been a topic of discussion amongst fans for almost as long as his overall career has lasted and it is inevitable that discussion and debates will arise from it.  We've pretty much exhausted this exchange for today so I don't plan on following up, but I would appreciate keeping the civility here even if some of you don't like or agree with my take.  

Understood, and no not all of it was directed at youÖIím seeing many of the same things elsewhere (not even just talking EH either). Certain words have extremely negative connotations and have been used by those who *do* have an axe to grind . Hereís the thing nobody seems willing to answerÖ letís pretend Brian was indeed being forced against his will to do this. The question isÖwhy? Money? Heís already loaded and at this stage of the game these shows arenít going to be huge cash cows. There are other, easier and faster ways to earn cash. To ensure  recording career can continue? Honestly, I think the soundtrack and the instrumental album are it. Besides the actual shows, touring is a LOT of work, not just for the artist. What would be the point in ďforcingĒ Brian to do something he allegedly didnít want to?  Can you imagine how it would be for Brian to be told ďthatís it, you canít do this anymore and your own fans donít want you to continue ď?  How is that beneficial?  How would it benefit for him to be sitting in his living room watching tv all day and ruminating on his own mortality? Iím not going to see 80 (some days I doubt Iíll see 50) but Iíve seen enough family members and family members of friends (including a few who were mentally ill) reach old age and eventually what comes next to know that him ceasing activity probably wonít have a great outcome. Heís not on an extremely grueling schedule either. I may regret being this blunt, but f*** itÖ Brianís not gonna be doing shows much longer. Heís not going to pull an Elton John and announce a retirement tour. Heíll  just Östop. This is about two thingsÖ keeping some semblance of normalcy for him, and letting him soak in the adulation he both deserves and needs for probably the last time (and giving the fans the opportunity to do so as well).


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on June 21, 2022, 03:12:07 PM
Can we have a ďSS board is backĒ celebration? ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on June 21, 2022, 05:40:12 PM
:)

I do hope I didnít come off too harshly and my reasoning came across fine.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: 18thofMay on June 21, 2022, 06:57:11 PM
People have been commenting on how Brian has looked on stage for over 50 years.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: Join The Human Race on June 21, 2022, 08:38:48 PM
I think a few things can be true simultaneously. While I understand the worries fans have about Brian being taken advantage of by others, I've not seen anything remotely similar to the type of control Landy that had over Brian. At the same time, I am wondering, why is Brian still touring? I've only seen Brian once, back in 2016, and I am very happy that I got that opportunity, but Brian was declining then. He sang most of the leads for that show, but with each succeeding year, he does less and less lead vocals at concerts. Due to his back problems, he's had to use a wheel chair, and he has to use a walker now to get on stage. He had a mental health issue back in 2019 that caused him to postpone shows. Then, the pandemic. And now, he's 80! I just don't understand why he's still touring. I knew Brian was going to be performing here in KC on his 80th birthday, but I decided to not buy a ticket, mainly for the reasons I mentioned above. A friend of mine saw Brian for the first time at Red Rocks and had a similar review to others I've read on the forums: Brian was weak, Al sounds great, backing band great. It reminds me of the line from the BW 1969-1982 documentary about Brian being onstage in the late 70s, early 80s, being paraded onstage like a circus bear. Carl was doing that at Knebworth. It was loving but Brian doesn't seem to want be there. It's a celebration of his great music yet he's the least involved. I just feel like we're kind of at that point again with Brian. Again, I don't know any of these people or what they think, so I cannot make assumptions. I think fans do have a right to ask themselves this question, while at the same time, keeping grounded enough to not give into the crazy conspiracies that pop up online amongst some fans. If any of you choose to go see Brian live, I hope you have a wonderful time. I am sure you will.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: Ragegasm, Coming Soon To A Dictionary Near You on June 22, 2022, 12:36:13 AM
Iíve been told multiple times by people that I trust that the decision to tour is Brianís.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: Tony S on June 22, 2022, 02:56:14 AM
My opinion,  but I do think Brian wants to tour. The last time I saw Brian I think was in 2018 it was the third or fourth time I saw the "final" Pet sounds show. Having seen them all Brian's vocals had gotten particularly weak as he pretty much spoke the words as opposed to singing. That was pretty much it for me in terms of going to see Brian Wilson perform,  love the man loved his music and would support anything that allows him to do what he wants to do. But for me seeing  him perform like that and seeing a great artist decline was something I did not want to see anymore. But that's me others love seeing him the way it is and obviously he has a crackerjack band. Whatever Brian wants to do obviously there are still people who want to see him and a lot of those. God bless you and Brian


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: rab2591 on June 22, 2022, 04:14:26 AM
Great posts, Join the Human Race and Tony S.

I saw Brian in 2020 right before the pandemic shut everything down. Brian looks older every time I see him, he doesnít hit every note perfectly. But I remember him being upbeat, and of course his band was just stellar. The way I see it: I donít go to see Brian at his peak. I go because:

- Brian still gives us a little magic in his performances - may not be every song, it may be only one song, but itís worth it.
- because I donít know if Iíll get another chance to see him. Something Iíve learned in life: it is hard to watch people decline as they get older, but those moments you spend with them in those years are moments you will cherish and are glad you had.
- because Iím in the same room as my musical hero. To me, itís like being in the same room as Beethoven.
- because it is the most joyous thing to be apart of the standing ovation after GOK ends.
- because I get to see some of the most talented musicians/bands work their magic. I think all of us musicians who ever dreamed of making it big in a band see Darian as an absolute hero, and weíre all jealous of the talent he and his bandmates have.

I totally understand if people think seeing Brian is too depressing. So Iíd never try to convince anyone they need to keep going to his shows. But those are just some of the reasons why I continue to go see him.

If I thought for one second that Brian was intentionally or unintentionally being pushed too far by his management/handlers/wife/band/etc I wouldnít support his touring. But I think Brian is just a complicated guy who seems to like being on the road these days for whatever reason. He may seem sad at times, or detached, but the guy has schizo-affective disorder and a slew of other mental health issues - I canít imagine what he goes through internally at times. But being surrounded by friends, being surrounded by music is probably better therapy than being parked in front of a TV alone at home. For that reason alone Iíll keep supporting the guy when I can.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: mtaber on June 22, 2022, 05:16:23 AM
Brian Wilson should do whatever he wants to do at this point in his life.  I donít actually know what he wants to do.  Neither do any of us.  Heck, donít each of us have doubts periodically about what we want to do?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: Wirestone on June 22, 2022, 06:40:57 AM
My latest, from my real job. Please ignore the smattering of Kansas political content if it upsets you.

Brian Wilsonís Kansas City concert sweeps past and present together into a wistful wave of change. https://kansasreflector.com/2022/06/22/brian-wilsons-kansas-city-concert-sweeps-past-and-present-together-into-a-wistful-wave-of-change/


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on June 22, 2022, 08:39:16 AM
The way I see it: I donít go to see Brian at his peak. I go because:

- Brian still gives us a little magic in his performances - may not be every song, it may be only one song, but itís worth it.
- because I donít know if Iíll get another chance to see him. Something Iíve learned in life: it is hard to watch people decline as they get older, but those moments you spend with them in those years are moments you will cherish and are glad you had.
- because Iím in the same room as my musical hero. To me, itís like being in the same room as Beethoven.
- because it is the most joyous thing to be apart of the standing ovation after GOK ends.
- because I get to see some of the most talented musicians/bands work their magic. I think all of us musicians who ever dreamed of making it big in a band see Darian as an absolute hero, and weíre all jealous of the talent he and his bandmates have.

Yes to all this! And similar to the GOK ovation you note, the 'Love and Mercy' encore is usually pretty special. The band surrounds Brian and he seems to give that one a bit of extra love.

I think it's an expectations game as well. If I read the mixed reviews of the current tour and keep the above in mind, I can likely go see a current show and enjoy it. But if I go expecting to see a Brian of decades ago... or perhaps even 5 years ago... some disappointment is probably inevitable.



Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on June 22, 2022, 09:05:56 AM
My latest, from my real job. Please ignore the smattering of Kansas political content if it upsets you.

Brian Wilsonís Kansas City concert sweeps past and present together into a wistful wave of change. https://kansasreflector.com/2022/06/22/brian-wilsons-kansas-city-concert-sweeps-past-and-present-together-into-a-wistful-wave-of-change/

That was a great readÖthank you for posting that!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: Lonely Summer on June 22, 2022, 11:39:56 AM
Al Jardine shared video his wife took of the band and crowd wishing him a happy birthday and offering him a cake.  Brian looked like he had no clue where he was.  It was hard enough watching him get to his piano using a walker but all reports of the tour I've read so far suggest the man's pretty checked out at this point.  In all honesty if his handlers allowed him to retire I'd rather see him enjoying a nice steak every week while watching a 24-hr "Norbit" channel.  No idea what exactly Brian wants himself but I think the guy has given us enough of his time.
Your observations are spot-on.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: Emdeeh on June 22, 2022, 04:53:00 PM
Thank you for sharing your article, Wirestone!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: parlay on June 23, 2022, 12:29:14 PM
Who is lead guitarist on the current Brian Wilson tour ?  Is Rob Bonfiglio on the tour


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: Ragegasm, Coming Soon To A Dictionary Near You on June 23, 2022, 04:56:58 PM
Who is lead guitarist on the current Brian Wilson tour ?  Is Rob Bonfiglio on the tour

He was when I saw him last Saturday, although the tour started with Randell Kirsch.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on June 23, 2022, 05:31:43 PM
:)

I do hope I didnít come off too harshly and my reasoning came across fine.

And apparently according to the usual suspects I ripped him a new one, even though most of it wasnít even directed to him (or at EH either, which again I said). But hey since this is being monitored, maybe someone can take the initiative and answer the questionÖ.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: rab2591 on June 23, 2022, 06:26:07 PM
:)

I do hope I didnít come off too harshly and my reasoning came across fine.

And apparently according to the usual suspects I ripped him a new one, even though most of it wasnít even directed to him (or at EH either, which again I said). But hey since this is being monitored, maybe someone can take the initiative and answer the questionÖ.

When one implies or straight up says that Brian is being controlled to the point he is forced to tour at 80 years old, that's gonna piss some people off. And I get that Awesoman explained his comment (even though I still just don't agree with his point of view), but you can't make a blanket statement that implies a lot of awful sh*t about the loving people surrounding Brian and expect a courteous reply. So if it's "rough stuff", perhaps more of that loving attitude they showed Howie Edelson should be shared here.

This forum has dealt with these inane conspiracy theories for a stupid long time, so it gets tiresome when people say things that imply (or straight up align with the idea) that Brian has no free will to retire.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on June 23, 2022, 07:33:53 PM
Itís worse on FacebookÖAwesomeman stated his point, I stated mine, I hope itís cool. It is on my end for sure. On FB though, these people are saying it directly , no hinting or insinuating or anything. Facebook is a cesspool to begin with but throw in the usual BB related drama and itís a powder keg of disaster.  That very day Iíd read some of the same accusations but those folks unlike Awsomeman didnít have good intentions.

Itís one thing to have concern; abject cruelty is another


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: Don Malcolm on June 23, 2022, 09:36:09 PM
Not to keep people from reading Wirestone's entire essay, but these closing paragraphs are so particularly moving and well done that IMO they need to be read by anyone/everyone who comes into this thread:

We canít stay young forever. But we can remember. Brian Wilson and his band told us that Monday night. We canít go back to the days of Bob Dole and Nancy Kassebaum and Bill Graves, but we can remember the examples they set. I canít go back to my high school days, when the years ahead stretched mysteriously, but I can remember how they felt.

We can remember, and we can build anew. We can share what weíve learned to others.

I watched Brian Wilson leave the stage on Monday, a freshly minted 80-year-old man guided by an assistant and holding onto a walker. To some, it might have seemed sad. But not to me. I saw a man of ferocious tenacity, someone who built a sonic edifice that endures and who refuses to let others forget.

I can only hope that when Iím 80, when the span of time has swept me deep into the territory of cranky old men, that Iím here to do my own work, contributing to this majestic state I so love.


This is what every one of us, in our heart of hearts, aspires to if we haven't given up on life, or been ground down by the unavoidable passage of time. We can't go back to the days of Carl and Dennis, either, but we can remember them in all their complexity and pay homage to their contributions to a band (inspired by their love and respect--and often their indulgence--of their big brother) and ensure that their memory is kept alive--one of the very best aspects of the C50 tour, BTW. If the surviving members of the group can arrange for a semblance of a truce in order to focus on their legacy, then all of us should cast aside as much of these innuendos as we can, since they matter not one whit in terms of what the band has achieved during its roller-coaster sixty-year career. Brian has clearly been hurting for some time now, but he has proven to us that he's a survivor; as Billy said so well, if he didn't want to be there, he simply wouldn't be there. He has opted out before. I think he's there--and, increasingly, Mike is as well--because they recognize that America--and the world--needs their music and the message it carries. They--and we--still need "a mess of help."

Wirestone's message, if I may be so presumptuous, is that we should be thankful for that tenacity and dedication, because those who aspire and achieve great things continue to demonstrate it even when one might expect them to rest on their laurels. Thank you for a wonderfully written piece of journalism--and I have no doubt that you'll still be a tenacious and valuable contributor when you "grow up to be an (old) man."  ;)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on June 23, 2022, 09:51:24 PM
Beautifully stated


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: Awesoman on June 24, 2022, 05:51:18 AM
Itís worse on FacebookÖAwesomeman stated his point, I stated mine, I hope itís cool. It is on my end for sure. On FB though, these people are saying it directly , no hinting or insinuating or anything. Facebook is a cesspool to begin with but throw in the usual BB related drama and itís a powder keg of disaster.  That very day Iíd read some of the same accusations but those folks unlike Awsomeman didnít have good intentions.

Itís one thing to have concern; abject cruelty is another

Yeah I'm not holding any grudges.  It's okay to disagree.  :-)

Now misspelling my screen name is a whole other story.  🤣


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: HeyJude on June 24, 2022, 06:59:22 AM
I'd also say that asking the sort of vague question to nobody in particular of "Should Brian still be out on tour?" does not imply that one thinks they should actually be able to have a say in such things.

Also, being concerned or off-put by his condition out on tour doesn't then immediately imply there's an accusation of his being taken advantage of, or that there is some evil person behind the scenes.

Brian's performances have become increasingly challenged in the last several years, including everything from the actual quality of his vocal delivery, to his overall demeanor. It *is* more low energy than even in like the 2012-2015 era, and his demeanor on stage when he's not singing is even more still and blank than in the past. I don't think it's out of line for someone to find that off-putting or concerning, even compared to 7 to 10 years ago.

I personally ended up stopping seeing the live show after 2016 after having seem him tons of times since 1999. It wasn't a big dramatic decision; I'm not even saying I'd never go again. But the performance of PS in 2016 wasn't great enough to justify keeping doing it for me, and while they do delegate leads to others, I've had a continual slight confusion/frustration with not giving Al more leads when his voice is so strong. So *that* level of Brian performance, coupled with having Al standing there the whole time but not singing a ton of leads, left me feeling I didn't need to go out of my way to see the next several tours.

I'm not ready to call for him to quit. And I think there absolutely could be something to the idea that staying active in that way is helping Brian. But I'd be very okay if he retired from touring, and I'm content with not seeing the live show now, or at least feeling I don't *need* to see the current live show.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on June 24, 2022, 10:37:11 AM
Itís worse on FacebookÖAwesomeman stated his point, I stated mine, I hope itís cool. It is on my end for sure. On FB though, these people are saying it directly , no hinting or insinuating or anything. Facebook is a cesspool to begin with but throw in the usual BB related drama and itís a powder keg of disaster.  That very day Iíd read some of the same accusations but those folks unlike Awsomeman didnít have good intentions.

Itís one thing to have concern; abject cruelty is another

Yeah I'm not holding any grudges.  It's okay to disagree.  :-)

Now misspelling my screen name is a whole other story.  🤣

Lol my phoneís autocarrot really didnít like me trying to type your name !


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on June 24, 2022, 10:39:44 AM
Itís worse on FacebookÖAwesomeman stated his point, I stated mine, I hope itís cool. It is on my end for sure. On FB though, these people are saying it directly , no hinting or insinuating or anything. Facebook is a cesspool to begin with but throw in the usual BB related drama and itís a powder keg of disaster.  That very day Iíd read some of the same accusations but those folks unlike Awsomeman didnít have good intentions.

Itís one thing to have concern; abject cruelty is another

Yeah I'm not holding any grudges.  It's okay to disagree.  :-)

Now misspelling my screen name is a whole other story.  🤣

Yeah my phoneís autocorrect really didnít like it lmfao


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: All Summer Long on June 24, 2022, 03:54:52 PM
Brian's performances have become increasingly challenged in the last several years, including everything from the actual quality of his vocal delivery, to his overall demeanor. It *is* more low energy than even in like the 2012-2015 era, and his demeanor on stage when he's not singing is even more still and blank than in the past. I don't think it's out of line for someone to find that off-putting or concerning, even compared to 7 to 10 years ago.

I personally ended up stopping seeing the live show after 2016 after having seem him tons of times since 1999. It wasn't a big dramatic decision; I'm not even saying I'd never go again. But the performance of PS in 2016 wasn't great enough to justify keeping doing it for me, and while they do delegate leads to others, I've had a continual slight confusion/frustration with not giving Al more leads when his voice is so strong. So *that* level of Brian performance, coupled with having Al standing there the whole time but not singing a ton of leads, left me feeling I didn't need to go out of my way to see the next several tours.

This is kind of how I feel too, HeyJude. I want to see Brian and Al (and Blondie) again and I also donít understand why they donít give Al more leads, especially now. I felt he sang a good amount when I saw them in 2017 doing PS (and almost half of Wild Honey too) but I definitely agree Al has been underutilized at least since the return to live music.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: HeyJude on June 27, 2022, 11:49:55 AM
Updated the top post with more setlists, and also a specific date for the August Canada date.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: Lonely Summer on June 27, 2022, 01:50:21 PM
Brian's performances have become increasingly challenged in the last several years, including everything from the actual quality of his vocal delivery, to his overall demeanor. It *is* more low energy than even in like the 2012-2015 era, and his demeanor on stage when he's not singing is even more still and blank than in the past. I don't think it's out of line for someone to find that off-putting or concerning, even compared to 7 to 10 years ago.

I personally ended up stopping seeing the live show after 2016 after having seem him tons of times since 1999. It wasn't a big dramatic decision; I'm not even saying I'd never go again. But the performance of PS in 2016 wasn't great enough to justify keeping doing it for me, and while they do delegate leads to others, I've had a continual slight confusion/frustration with not giving Al more leads when his voice is so strong. So *that* level of Brian performance, coupled with having Al standing there the whole time but not singing a ton of leads, left me feeling I didn't need to go out of my way to see the next several tours.

This is kind of how I feel too, HeyJude. I want to see Brian and Al (and Blondie) again and I also donít understand why they donít give Al more leads, especially now. I felt he sang a good amount when I saw them in 2017 doing PS (and almost half of Wild Honey too) but I definitely agree Al has been underutilized at least since the return to live music.
Nobody makes Al do anything. He is doing all the singing he wants to do on the current tour.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: HeyJude on June 28, 2022, 08:53:23 AM
Nobody makes Al do anything. He is doing all the singing he wants to do on the current tour.

I don't believe Al is a musical director on the tour, and there has never been any indication he has any strong input into the setlist or lead vocal assignments.

But my position is that the issue of "not giving Al more leads" falls on whomever makes that decision. My issue mentioned previously was simply that Al isn't singing more leads, whether that's someone else not assigning him more leads, someone not "letting" him sing more leads, Al not "asserting" himself more to take more leads, or Al actively turning down leads. Whatever the reason, Al's lead vocals are pretty much the biggest asset Brian's touring band has. It's an "original" voice, and it's stunningly still in tact.

And, even trying to parse such things as far as leads and setlist selections only can really be done when they're doing full-length gigs. This Chicago tour has them doing the same thing they did back on that Paul Simon tour in 2001, which is around 20-ish songs and probably around 75 minutes. There's little room to maneuver with that amount of time. A few deep cuts get sprinkled in, and they spread the leads around as much as they can.

And, I will say in the past that they've gone farther to take the load off Brian and have Al sing more, having Al take over stuff like "Here Today" on the PS tours, etc.

But I think, especially considering how forgiving and understanding Brian's audiences still are, I think it would be fine if they had Al singing like 50% of the leads at Brian shows. If they're going to keep doing them.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on June 29, 2022, 12:44:02 AM
Iíll be honestÖAlís voice hasnít been sounding as good as even just a few years ago. Itís to be expected at these guysís age . Mattís been a real star to the point where Iíd go see a tour with him as the main dude. It wouldnít be that much different than what weíre getting now if Iím being 100% honest.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021)
Post by: HeyJude on June 29, 2022, 06:57:30 AM
Iíll be honestÖAlís voice hasnít been sounding as good as even just a few years ago. Itís to be expected at these guysís age . Mattís been a real star to the point where Iíd go see a tour with him as the main dude. It wouldnít be that much different than what weíre getting now if Iím being 100% honest.

The most recent Brian shows I've heard on YouTube do feature Al in slightly compromised voice. I think all of these guys, Mike and Al included, have the McCartney issue of having trouble sort of getting enough air going out to get longer lines out when singing. Surely some of that is age.

That being said, Al as recently as this year at his solo gigs, and certainly in the last few years, still has a far, far more intact voice than any of the other BBs, and pretty much any other contemporary that was singing in the 60s and is now hitting 80+ years old.

Whatever state their voice was in even 3-5 years ago, I think Al a bit and even more so Mike is hitting an additional wall in the last year or two, roughly in the "post-shutdown/reopening" era of 2021-ish.

For that matter, on top of whatever else is going on, I think this is happening for Brian as well, which is not helping his already challenged singing on stage.

They're all 80 or older now. It's to be expected of course to some degree.