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Author Topic: is there a definitive bass list for David, Al and Brian during the 60's?  (Read 1115 times)
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« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2020, 09:12:43 AM »

Al played a modest amount from Sunflower to Holland, didn't he? Not that I can think of much outside of his own songs but he seemed more active instrumentally. Then of course Come Go With Me, and later MIU. It's pretty strange that Carl and Dennis were playing all over 15 Big Ones and Love You but Al basically only turned up for vocals, and in the case of 15BO quite a bit more than them on that end.

I think that's likely due to proximity - Al lived in Big Sur by then, whereas Dennis and Carl were still in the L.A. area. I'm guessing Al was in town whenever needed for vocal sessions, but didn't worry abut being there for the instrumental tracking, unless it was his song.
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« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2020, 09:17:57 AM »

Al played a modest amount from Sunflower to Holland, didn't he? Not that I can think of much outside of his own songs but he seemed more active instrumentally. Then of course Come Go With Me, and later MIU. It's pretty strange that Carl and Dennis were playing all over 15 Big Ones and Love You but Al basically only turned up for vocals, and in the case of 15BO quite a bit more than them on that end.

I think that's likely due to proximity - Al lived in Big Sur by then, whereas Dennis and Carl were still in the L.A. area. I'm guessing Al was in town whenever needed for vocal sessions, but didn't worry abut being there for the instrumental tracking, unless it was his song.


Very interesting. During the period when the band owned Brother Studio, where exactly in town was everyone living? I'm wondering how many minutes it would've taken them to get there if they had the inclination to record on a whim. Did Dennis actually have a residence in Santa Monica or nearby? And how about the others?
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« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2020, 09:19:12 AM »

Al played a modest amount from Sunflower to Holland, didn't he? Not that I can think of much outside of his own songs but he seemed more active instrumentally. Then of course Come Go With Me, and later MIU. It's pretty strange that Carl and Dennis were playing all over 15 Big Ones and Love You but Al basically only turned up for vocals, and in the case of 15BO quite a bit more than them on that end.

I think that's likely due to proximity - Al lived in Big Sur by then, whereas Dennis and Carl were still in the L.A. area. I'm guessing Al was in town whenever needed for vocal sessions, but didn't worry abut being there for the instrumental tracking, unless it was his song.


Very interesting. During the period when the band owned Brother Studio, where exactly in town was everyone living? I'm wondering how many minutes it would've taken them to get there if they had the inclination to record on a whim. Did Dennis actually have a residence in Santa Monica or nearby? And how about the others?
Dennis lived on his yacht the Harmony in Marina Del Rey for much of that period, just minutes from Santa Monica. He also had residences in Malibu and Venice that overlapped that period. But you could say he virtually lived in the studio on and off as well.
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« Reply #28 on: May 17, 2020, 04:47:37 PM »

One of the reasons I enjoy 15BO so much is the presence of BBs on backing tracks. I'd say there's just as much interesting Moog stuff going on, on 15BO as Love You, it's just more subtle.

A definitive list, in one source, of all musicians and technicians involved would be very cool. Of course, I understand it's easy to wish for that--- much harder to get it printed. I respect all the work C Man does along these lines.

It's quite obvious over the nearly 60 year career The BBs have had that is Al is self conscious of his instrumental ability. That's why the heavy lifting went more and more to others. Though, since C50 his guitar has been very audible, in shows I've seen in 2015, 2017, and 2019. And he's obviously doing almost all of the guitar work in his solo shows now. It's cool that it seems like he's gotten more comfortable and confident with his playing. When I've seen Brian's band play Sail On Sailor, Al plays a co-lead.


He's a tremendous bassist. It sometimes surprises me he didn't become the band's official bassist. He plays so much on 63-65 recordings, and his tone and rhythm are great! Very tight Fender Bass sound. Of course, on the road he played rhythm guitar, leaving the role of bassist open, for Bruce to *sorta* be official bassist, but of course he was playing a lot of keys too as early as 67.

Bruce and Al both would've been competent enough to assume the role full time. Maybe they'd need a little practice for confidence. But they've both proven their chops time and time again.

Very interesting that Carl was so passionate about the bass. It's hard for me to picture him assuming that role full time, as I associate so much of their 1961-1997 sound with Carl's guitar playing. Of course, Ed Carter and others would go on to take some of those lines- especially in the early 80's, but Carl was such a fantastic lead guitarist, playing all those iconic riffs, it wouldn't have made sense to strap him on Fender Bass, in my opinion.

With Mike's inclination to cut costs and save money, I wonder if he's ever asked Bruce to play bass again, he'd need one less member  LOL LOL LOL

Bruce hasn't seemed interest in the bassist (for more than 2-5 songs) since his return to the band in 1979. In a way, it makes sense, as playing bass was never his strong suit. It'd be like if Brian was full time drummer. But at the same time, I think Bruce is a really underrated bassist and could play songs like WIBN with relative ease, and sound good. To think he played that bassline and sang in the harmony stack at the same time, during that 65-66 era when the music was getting more and more complicated, is quite the feat. Bruce is a very talented guy.
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