Feel Flows box set

[bryand]

If it is indeed legit, Big Sur 1970 has been officially released on Live in 1970.

[Freddie French-Pounce]

Well, there's like 116 tracks (give or take 1 or 2) on this box set.

We know of around 70-80 of them at this stage, what they will be. I'd allow 10 tracks for the 1970 Big Sur show. There could be some rehearsals. I don't think there'll be more than 2 or 3 from CATP.

That leaves, let's say at least 20 tracks that we don't know about. Those 20 could be either more run-of-the-mill tracks or they could be revelatory. ??

What makes you think there’s 116 tracks?

[Shady]

So......any news ?

[thetojo]

Well, there's like 116 tracks (give or take 1 or 2) on this box set.

We know of around 70-80 of them at this stage, what they will be. I'd allow 10 tracks for the 1970 Big Sur show. There could be some rehearsals. I don't think there'll be more than 2 or 3 from CATP.

That leaves, let's say at least 20 tracks that we don't know about. Those 20 could be either more run-of-the-mill tracks or they could be revelatory. ??

What makes you think there’s 116 tracks?

I'm sorry to be vague - I'll dig up my info and post it when I'm at my desktop.

[HeyJude]

Good stuff is coming folks. Nothing is ever certain until we have the thing in our hands/ears, but as much as one can possibly ascertain, good things are coming.

[Rebel]

Good stuff is coming folks. Nothing is ever certain until we have the thing in our hands/ears, but as much as one can possibly ascertain, good things are coming.

Translation: “no word, hints, teasers, or marketing. But uh eventually .. the set will come out. So uh it’s coming.. good things coming. Any day now. Any day I’ll be right. It’s gonna happen. Just wait. You’ll see. Any day now.... “

[thetojo]

Good stuff is coming folks. Nothing is ever certain until we have the thing in our hands/ears, but as much as one can possibly ascertain, good things are coming.

Translation: “no word, hints, teasers, or marketing. But uh eventually .. the set will come out. So uh it’s coming.. good things coming. Any day now. Any day I’ll be right. It’s gonna happen. Just wait. You’ll see. Any day now.... “

Let's say any month now . .

[bsten]

Sounds exciting, but as usual with the Beach Boys, I believe it when I see it ...

[rab2591]

Good stuff is coming folks. Nothing is ever certain until we have the thing in our hands/ears, but as much as one can possibly ascertain, good things are coming.

Translation: “no word, hints, teasers, or marketing. But uh eventually .. the set will come out. So uh it’s coming.. good things coming. Any day now. Any day I’ll be right. It’s gonna happen. Just wait. You’ll see. Any day now.... “

Things have been quiet for damn near a year. And that makes you excited for details?..........

Considering Howie has updated us recently I wouldn’t call it being quiet for a year.

Not sure if you saw Billy’s reply here, rebel. But things haven’t been quiet. And there actually has been word.

Considering how open Howie was about the possible shelving of this project half a year ago, I think he would be shouting from the rooftops if this thing were being shelved again. But rather, we have gotten nothing but positive news about this set from Howie, who is helping create this boxset.

His most latest update on the set, a month and a half ago:

Work continues on.
There's a really good communal vibe regarding the box.

FEEL FLOWS is going to be the perfect soundtrack to 2021.

[Howie Edelson]

Hold on a little longer, guys.
Very cool stuff coming on the horizon.

It's all good, I promise you.

[Shady]

Hold on a little longer, guys.
Very cool stuff coming on the horizon.

It's all good, I promise you.

Thank you!!!

[anders wyller]

Thank you, Howie ❤️ - I guess it's hard for you not to post the full monty ...

[thetojo]

Hold on a little longer, guys.
Very cool stuff coming on the horizon.

It's all good, I promise you.

I find this vague - are the Beach Boys getting back into merching beachwear again!

Just kidding - thanks Howie.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Much appreciated as always Howie 😎

[thetojo]

Well, there's like 116 tracks (give or take 1 or 2) on this box set.

We know of around 70-80 of them at this stage, what they will be. I'd allow 10 tracks for the 1970 Big Sur show. There could be some rehearsals. I don't think there'll be more than 2 or 3 from CATP.

That leaves, let's say at least 20 tracks that we don't know about. Those 20 could be either more run-of-the-mill tracks or they could be revelatory. ??

What makes you think there’s 116 tracks?

My bad - I meant 122.

Feel Flows Box Set - prediction
 001   Cotton Fields (The Cotton Song)   3:14sec
 002      
 003   It's About Time   0:50sec
 004      
 005   San Miguel   2:34sec
 006   Good Time   2:56sec
 007      
 008   Carnival (Over The Waves)/Sobra Las Olas   1:34sec
 009   Susie Cincinnati   3:02sec
 010   I Just Got My Pay   2:43sec
 011      
 012      
 013   Soulful Old Man Sunshine   3:14sec
 014   I'm Goin' Your Way   2:24sec
 015      
 016      
 017      
 018   This Whole World   1:41sec
 019   Add Some Music To Your Day   3:27sec
 020   Our Sweet Love   1:00sec
 021   Slip On Through   3:25sec
 022      
 023   This Whole World   3:11sec
 024   Add Some Music To Your Day   4:35sec
 025   Add Some Music To Your Day   3:30sec
 026   Got To Know The Woman   2:55sec
 027   Deirdre   3:35sec
 028   It's About Time   2:53sec
 029   Tears In The Morning   4:13sec
 030   All I Wanna Do   3:46sec
 031   All I Wanna Do   2:58sec
 032      
 033   Forever   2:59sec
 034   Forever   2:52sec
 035   Our Sweet Love   2:39sec
 036   At My Window  [Long version?]   2:51sec
 037   Cool, Cool Water   6:26sec
 038   Loop De Loop (Flip Flop Flyin' In An Aeroplane)   2:49sec
 039   San Miguel   2:59sec
 040   Good Time   4:27sec
 041   When Girls Get Together   1:51sec
 042   Susie Cincinnati   3:04sec
 043   Back Home   2:23sec
 044   Sunflower Promo   1:00sec
 045   This Whole World   1:05sec
 046      
 047   Big Sur   2:36sec
 048   (Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again   6:53sec
 049   Seasons In The Sun   3:30sec
 050   Old Movie (Cuddle Up)   3:38sec
 051      
 052      
 053   Sound Of Free   2:22sec
 054      
 055   My Solution   3:44sec
 056   H.E.L.P. Is On The Way   2:31sec
 057   Surf's Up Promo   1:02sec
 058   Don't Go Near The Water   2:42sec
 059   Long Promised Road   3:40sec
 060   A Day In The Life Of A Tree   0:35sec
 061   Good Time   0:19sec
 062   Don't Go Near The Water   3:41sec
 063   Long Promised Road   4:16sec
 064   Take A Load Off Your Feet   2:29sec
 065   Disney Girls (1957)   4:17sec
 066   Student Demonstration Time   3:46sec
 067   Feel Flows   5:02sec
 068   Lookin' At Tomorrow (A Welfare Song)   2:43sec
 069   A Day In The Life Of A Tree   2:54sec
 070   'Til I Die   1:56sec
 071   'Til I Die   2:36sec
 072   'Til I Die   4:47sec
 073   Surf's Up, Pt. 1   1:41sec
 074   Surf's Up   4:08sec
 075   Surf's Up   4:05sec
 076   Sweet And Bitter   2:33sec
 077   Won't You Tell Me   2:01sec
 078   Won't You Tell Me   2:54sec
 079   Settle Down (Sound Of Free)   2:17sec
 080   Medley: All Of My Love/Ecology   5:06sec
 081   Before   2:26sec
 082   You Never Give Me Your Money   0:40sec
 083   Hawaiian Dream   4:34sec
 084   Medley: Happy Birthday, Brian/God Only Knows   2:47sec
 085   I've Got A Friend   2:28sec
 086   Feel Flows   0:35sec
 087   Disney Girls   0:36sec
 088   Cotton Fields (The Cotton Song)   2:46sec
 089   Riot In Cell Block #9   3:31sec
 090   Add Some Music To Your Day   3:22sec
 091   Take A Load Off Your Feet   2:26sec
 092   It's About Time   4:24sec
 093      
 094      
 095      
 096   Susie Cincinnati   2:42sec
 097   Back Home   3:29sec
 098   Student Demonstration Time   4:44sec
 099   Cotton Fields (The Cotton Song)   2:44sec
 100   Celebrate The News   2:34sec
 101   It's Natural   2:35sec
 102   Awake   3:44sec
 103   Walkin'   2:44sec
 104   San Miguel   1:00sec
 105   Baby Baby   3:15sec
 106   My Solution   3:43sec
 107      
 108   Marcella   3:29sec
 109      
 110      
 111      
 112      
 113      
 114      
 115      
 116   'Til I Die   2:11sec
 117      
 118      
 119      
 120      
 121      
 122   Sunflower Promo   1:02sec

[Dan Lega]

   Wha'?   

Very cool.  But c'mon... you've got to explain why you chose that number of extra tracks, and why you put the blank spots where you put them!   

[bryand]

These are ISRC (International Standard Recording Code) numbers that Universal Music has created. Typically the ISRC corresponds with the track number. The numbers above were created in late 2020. The missing spots are those ISRC numbers that were not registered in 2020.

I supposed that only time will tell whether tracks are registered for those track numbers or if they get skipped.

[thetojo]

These are ISRC (International Standard Recording Code) numbers that Universal Music has created. Typically the ISRC corresponds with the track number. The numbers above were created in late 2020. The missing spots are those ISRC numbers that were not registered in 2020.

I supposed that only time will tell whether tracks are registered for those track numbers or if they get skipped.

What bryand said.

Plus I should add that there is also an indication from the same source that a version of Wouldn't It Be Nice first released in 1970 is to be rereleased, hence, Big Sur 1970!

[Don Malcolm]

"Typically corresponds" with the track number, but does the track order that's implied in the listing make much sense? How does it stack up in terms of session chronology? The big place where live tracks could appear in this doesn't seem as though it supports a chronological approach to the material...

[thetojo]

Not every release of this type is strictly chronological.

I don't know if the promos could turn up as hidden tracks at the end of discs or something like that. I'm not claiming any insider knowledge - I don't have any.

One problem I see with a strict chronological approach is that I personally don't want to listen to 3 versions of the same song in a row. I'll make an exception for Surf's Up and 'Til I Die.

I'm guessing that the blanks are mostly 1971 recorded titles for which no previous release has ever happened and/or live tracks, but I'm guessing.

[Bellagio 1975]

Very curious to see how the blanks will be filled in.   

[Dan Lega]

Okay, I've done some calculating.  The set is supposed to be five CD's.  So with about 80 minutes per CD, that adds up to 400 minutes.

And I just tallied all the times on the tracklist above and the total comes out to be about 263 minutes and 20 seconds.

So that leaves 135+ minutes left over.  So we could easily be missing 2 hours and 10+ minutes of music from the set!  That's a lot of material that could be very revelatory!

So, okay, I'm feeling a little better about the prospects for this set.  Thanks again, Howie, for keeping us updated.


PS -- Of course a question many have been asking: is the set going to include remixes of the albums?  I don't know how long each album is, but we would have to subtract those running lengths from the total above.  I, for one, hope that they don't include remixes of the albums in the set, because I want more room for unreleased material, sessions, and backing and vocal tracks.  Of course it would be nice if they would rerelease the albums separately with new mixes!


Love and merci,
Dan Lega

[Greg Parry]

Every day I come here waiting for news. Having bought the '93 set on the day of issue, which was also described in similar terms to 'game changer', I can say I'm equally excited for this one.

What a fruitful period this was. Brian was very active still, Dennis was reaching maturity as a composer, and there was stellar input from the rest of the band. The title of the set, with its recognition of Carl as a creative force is well deserved, and overdue in the public eye,

I find this period was also when Dennis reached his apex as a vocalist, his controlled raggedness which Brian had always valued and used to great effect, coming to the fore on tracks such as Lady, and Wouldn't it be nice to Live Again. If there are some previously unknown tracks containing Dennis at his vocal peak, then this set will be a treasure indeed!

Also, if the new mixes are of the calibre of the San Miguel remix which Mark debuted for us a year or so back, then we're in for a treat, although in the case of Sunflower I'm not sure how Stephen Desper's mixes can be improved on. (I could write poetry about that mix). It will be great to hear any more Sunflower backing tracks and vox only

Very exciting.

[Aegir]

Looking forward to those "Landlocked" tracks being on Spotify so I can listen to I Just Got My Pay on demand.

[Junkstar]

So, we were waiting on Irving Azoff.