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« Reply #525 on: May 23, 2020, 05:58:45 AM »

I think they're going to call it "Take a Load off Your Feet, Pete".
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« Reply #526 on: May 23, 2020, 01:52:45 PM »

Thereís blues folk and country and ROCK like a rolling stone

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« Reply #527 on: May 23, 2020, 10:05:59 PM »

Those last two days were good for my soul ...

I forgot about those lyrics, but they're just not on par with the lyrics from Add some music  Grin
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« Reply #528 on: May 25, 2020, 06:15:54 AM »

I just had a thought that an apt title would be "Columnated Ruins Domino"  Tongue

More seriously, what about "Good with the Soul" - what do you think?

"Feel Flows" works fine.  Less is more.  You want a snappy title for the album; not an overly abstract and wordy phrase. 
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« Reply #529 on: May 25, 2020, 02:27:20 PM »

I just had a thought that an apt title would be "Columnated Ruins Domino"  Tongue

More seriously, what about "Good with the Soul" - what do you think?

"Feel Flows" works fine.  Less is more.  You want a snappy title for the album; not an overly abstract and wordy phrase.  

I take your point, but to my mind there won't be a lot of purchases of an archival release like this by people who wouldn't be aware of the source of that "Good with the Soul" lyric (ie. fairly hard core Beach Boys fans).
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« Reply #530 on: May 26, 2020, 08:00:09 PM »

No matter WHAT you call it, archival releases are pretty much just for the hardcore fans in the first place.
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« Reply #531 on: May 27, 2020, 06:17:16 AM »

I'd vote for "It's About Time"
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« Reply #532 on: May 27, 2020, 07:46:11 AM »

But I donít think that this is just an archival release. Obviously, most of itís going to be archival, but I feel like itís going to be a complete repackaging of those albums. Or at least one of them, probably Sunflower.
Thatís why I wouldnít be surprised if they went with a name like ďSunflower (Super Deluxe Addition)Ē or something like that
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« Reply #533 on: May 27, 2020, 02:08:53 PM »

But I donít think that this is just an archival release. Obviously, most of itís going to be archival, but I feel like itís going to be a complete repackaging of those albums. Or at least one of them, probably Sunflower.
Thatís why I wouldnít be surprised if they went with a name like ďSunflower (Super Deluxe Addition)Ē or something like that

I think Edition is more likely than Addition.

(Not being nasty, more and more errors like this are all over the place, and I'm certainly not immune from typos, auto-correct faux pas etc.)
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« Reply #534 on: May 27, 2020, 02:20:32 PM »

I misread that as ďAddiction ď. 😒 Well, I certainly AM addicted to music LOL
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« Reply #535 on: May 28, 2020, 05:48:16 AM »

I just had a thought that an apt title would be "Columnated Ruins Domino"  Tongue

More seriously, what about "Good with the Soul" - what do you think?

"Feel Flows" works fine.  Less is more.  You want a snappy title for the album; not an overly abstract and wordy phrase.  

I take your point, but to my mind there won't be a lot of purchases of an archival release like this by people who wouldn't be aware of the source of that "Good with the Soul" lyric (ie. fairly hard core Beach Boys fans).

Well, Sunshine Tomorrow did very well sales-wise (exceeding whatever the expectations were), and that's not an obvious title.
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« Reply #536 on: June 06, 2020, 03:34:55 PM »

So while we are still waiting on this, I thought it would be fun to propose some track lists. My guess is that The first 12 tracks will be remixed and remastered versions of Sunflower. The rest is uncertain, but Iím going to copy and paste a post from the https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/the-beach-boys-2019-copyright-extension-speculation.886274/ Steve Hoffman forums with detailed breakdown of the sunflower sessions.
1969:
January
9 - session: Forever/San Miguel
13 - session: San Miguel (remake) [Sunset]
22 - session: San Miguel [Valentine - 2 sessions]
24 - session: San Miguel [Sunset]
27 - session: San Miguel [Sunset]
29 - session: San Miguel [Capitol]

February
13 - session: Got To Know The Woman [Sunset]
14 - session: Got To Know The Woman [Sunset]
21 - session: Deidrie
24 - session: What Can The Matter Be ?/Celebrate The News [Sunset]
25 - session: Celebrate The News [Sunset]

March
3 - session: Celebrate The News [Sunset]
5 - session: Loop De Loop [Western]
6 - session: Loop De Loop [Western]
8 - session: Loop De Loop
11 - session: Loop De Loop [Sunset]
12 - session: Forever [Gold Star]
14 - session: Forever [Gold Star]
17 - session: Forever [Gold Star]
19 - session: All I Wanna Do [Gold Star]
21 - session: Deidrie [Gold Star]
31 - single session: Break Away [ID Sound]

April
2 - single session: Break Away
10 - single session: Break Away vocals [ID Sound]
23 - single session: Break Away [Gold Star]

May
24 - session: What Can The Matter Be [Valentine]

July
9 - session: Slip On Through
14 - session: Slip On Through/I'm Going Your Way (= California Slide) [Sunset]

August
8 - single session: Cotton Fields (45 version)
15 - single session: Cotton Fields (45 version) [Sunset]
22 - Kalinich poetry album session: America, I Know You [Wally Heider][5]
29 - session: Soulful Old Man Sunshine [Sunset]

September
5 - session: Soulful Old Man Sunshine [Sunset]

October
6 - Add Some Music session: Slip On Through
13 - Add Some Music session: Walkin'
20 - Add Some Music session: Games Two Can Play
28 - Add Some Music session: Add Some Music To Your Day

November
3 - Add Some Music session: 'untitled'
4 - Add Some Music session: When Girls Get Together
6 - Add Some Music session: Soulful Old Man Sunshine/Our Sweet Love/'Til I Die (demo) [Sunset]
9 - Add Some Music session: Soulful Old Man Sunshine vocals
10 - Add Some Music session: 'untitled'
11 - Add Some Music session: Raspberries, Strawberries (= At My Window)
13 - Add Some Music session: This Whole World
18 - Add Some Music session: Tears In The Morning
?? - Add Some Music session: Where is She ?

December
23 - Dennis Wilson session: 'Dennis' piano interlude' (= (Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again demo)
24 - Add Some Music session: Susie Cincinnati/Back Home
26 - Add Some Music session: Lady
?? - Add Some Music session: Carnival (= Over The Waves) [9]
?? - Add Some Music session: Add Some Music To Your Day

1970 Sessions

January
2 - Add Some Music session: 'Untitled #3'
5 - Add Some Music session: I Just Got My Pay/Carnival (= Over The Waves)
7 - Add Some Music session:
Susie Cincinnati/Good Time/You Never Give Me Your Money
9 - Add Some Music session: Carnival (= Over The Waves)
17 - Add Some Music session: Take A Load Off Your Feet, Pete
18 - Add Some Music session: Back Home [demo]
19 - Add Some Music session: Back Home
26 - Add Some Music session: Tears In The Morning/Our Sweet Love/Take A Load Off
Your Feet/Fallin' In Love (= Lady) strings
27 - Live In London session: mixing (Capitol) [1]
28 - Live In London session: mixing (Capitol)
28 - Add Some Music session: Tears In The Morning [piano tag - Valentine]
?? - Add Some Music session: Back Home
?? - Add Some Music session: Take A Load Off Your Feet
?? - Add Some Music session: Cool, Cool Water
?? - Add Some Music session: Add Some Music To Your Day

February
2 - Add Some Music session: Susie Cincinatti [car fx]
18 - Add Some Music session: mastering and album assembled
the tracks for the first offering to Reprise were as follows: Susie Cincinnati/Good
Time/Our Sweet Love/Tears In The Morning/When Girls Get Together/Slip On
Through/Add Some Music To Your Day/Take A Load Off Your Feet/This Whole
World/I Just Got My Pay/At My Window/Fallin' In Love [Artisan Sounds]

April
17, 21, 28, 29 - Fred Vail country album session: the following titles were recorded over the
four sessions - Bethany Ann*/There's Always Something There To Remind
Me*/Kittens, Kids & Kites/Lucky Billy/Black Man In Georgia/One Woman
Won't Hold Me/Why Don't You Give Her To Me/If You're Not Loving, You're
Not Living/All For The Love Of A Girl*/Only The Lonely*/Carolina On My
Mind/My Way Of Life*/A Fool Such As I*/You Pass Me By/I Can't Help It If
I'm Still In Love With You [Wally Heider's][3]

June
19 - session: master for "Last Capitol Album" prepared. The tracks to be included
on the album (apparently entitled Reverberation) were: Cotton Fields (45
version, DuoPhonic)/Loop De Loop+/All I Wanna Do*/Got To Know The
Woman (mono mix)/When Girls Get Together (track only)Break Away/San
Miguel+/Celebrate The News/Deirdre*/The Lord's Prayer (stereo remix of
1963 version - actually electronically reprocessed)/Forever*. This is the order
on the master. The tracks noted * were used on Sunflower while those
noted + were pulled to the "2nd Warner Brothers album" reel.
[Artisan Sounds ?]

July
?? - Sunflower session: It's About Time (before the 8th)
?? - "Big Gus Club", Los Angeles CA [6]
7 - Sunflower session: Cool, Cool Water
8 - Sunflower session: Cool, Cool Water (mixdown)
21 - session: [no title] [7]
21 - Sunflower session: mastering & copying [Artisan Sounds]
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« Reply #537 on: June 07, 2020, 09:00:59 AM »

Whoever posted that on the Steve Hoffman forums just copied that off bellagio10452.com.
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« Reply #538 on: June 07, 2020, 10:59:51 AM »

Whoever posted that on the Steve Hoffman forums just copied that off bellagio10452.com.
Oh? My bad I wasnít looking that deeply, I was just trying to figure out what sessions they might include on the set, and that was the most comprehensive list that I found.
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« Reply #539 on: June 07, 2020, 12:17:57 PM »

Anyone ever hear why Breakaway was not on Sunflower?
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« Reply #540 on: June 07, 2020, 02:09:08 PM »

Anyone ever hear why Breakaway was not on Sunflower?

Because it had already been released by Capitol?

This raises an interesting point - Brother retained the rights to the albums Pet Sounds and following, but what about the singles which did not appear on an album in those '66 to '69 years?
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« Reply #541 on: June 07, 2020, 02:23:37 PM »

Anyone ever hear why Breakaway was not on Sunflower?
2 different record labels.
There was actually 3 different versions of sunflower.
The first one was assembled in February 1970 for Warner brothers, and had the title add some music with this track list:
Susie Cincinnati
Good Time
Our Sweet Love
Tears In The Morning
When Girls Get Together
Slip On Through
Add Some Music To Your Day
Take A Load Off Your Feet
This Whole World
I Just Got My Pay
At My Window
Fallin' In Love
They also owed one last album to capital, so they scraped together some outtakes, and rarities, and made an album called reverberation in June, with this track list:
1.   "Cottonfields" (single version)   
2.   "Loop de Loop"   
3.   "All I Wanna Do"   
4.   "Got to Know the Woman" (mono mix)   
5.   "When Girls Get Together" (instrumental)   
6.   "Break Away"   
7.   "San Miguel"   
8.   "Celebrate the News"   
9.   "Deirdre"   
10.   "The Lord's Prayer" (stereo remix)   
11.   "ForeverĒ
Both albums were rejected by their respective labels, capital released live in London instead, and they had to release an album of all new material, seeing as Break away and celebrate the news has been released at capital the previous year, so capital owned those copyrights.
So, they basically combined both add some music and reverberation, scrapped several tracks, recorded Itís about Time and a new version of Cool Cool Water, turned it in to Warner Bros., and boom. Thatís how we got the album we know today
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« Reply #542 on: June 07, 2020, 02:33:11 PM »

Anyone ever hear why Breakaway was not on Sunflower?

Because it had already been released by Capitol?

This raises an interesting point - Brother retained the rights to the albums Pet Sounds and following, but what about the singles which did not appear on an album in those '66 to '69 years?
The only single that didnít appear on an album between 1966 and 1969 was break away. And I donít believe that they regained the rights to their 1966-69 catalog by July 1970 when the first album for Warner Bros. was finally assembled. and if I am completely wrong on this, I apologize. But I think another reason that Break Away never appeared on an official album was because of the fact that it did so poorly on the charts. Also, it could be that so much time had passed that they refused to put an old song that had already been released on a new album. Obviously, especially with their late 70s catalog, they freely stole from their own archives of the early 70s material, but they never put any previously released tracks on a new album several years later, with the exception of Susie Cincinnati
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« Reply #543 on: June 07, 2020, 06:39:36 PM »

I just wonder why Cotton Fields wasnít on Sunflower over either At My Window or Our Sweet Love? It has really every member prominently except Al. Hell, Bruce has two songs (three, if you count At My Window). Al has three co-writing credits (modifying Itís About Time (and guitar) plus AMW and OSL and partial lead on Add Some Music. But the record feels absent of Al. Other than that, the albumís pretty much perfect.
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« Reply #544 on: June 07, 2020, 07:28:35 PM »

Anyone ever hear why Breakaway was not on Sunflower?

Because it had already been released by Capitol?

This raises an interesting point - Brother retained the rights to the albums Pet Sounds and following, but what about the singles which did not appear on an album in those '66 to '69 years?
The only single that didnít appear on an album between 1966 and 1969 was break away. And I donít believe that they regained the rights to their 1966-69 catalog by July 1970 when the first album for Warner Bros. was finally assembled. and if I am completely wrong on this, I apologize. But I think another reason that Break Away never appeared on an official album was because of the fact that it did so poorly on the charts. Also, it could be that so much time had passed that they refused to put an old song that had already been released on a new album. Obviously, especially with their late 70s catalog, they freely stole from their own archives of the early 70s material, but they never put any previously released tracks on a new album several years later, with the exception of Susie Cincinnati

Since 'Breakaway" wasn't on an album, Capitol retained the rights to it (and to "Celebrate The News", and to the single version of "Cotton Fields"). That's why Capitol was able to include "Break Away" on Spirit Of America six years later.
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« Reply #545 on: June 07, 2020, 07:32:09 PM »

I just wonder why Cotton Fields wasnít on Sunflower over either At My Window or Our Sweet Love? It has really every member prominently except Al. Hell, Bruce has two songs (three, if you count At My Window). Al has three co-writing credits (modifying Itís About Time (and guitar) plus AMW and OSL and partial lead on Add Some Music. But the record feels absent of Al. Other than that, the albumís pretty much perfect.

Because Reprise didn't own the rights to "Cotton Fields", Capitol did. Al produced that version in August specifically for release as a single, and the band didn't sign with Warner-Reprise until November. Overseas, EMI Stateside was able to put it on Sunflower because they owned the rights to that album (and the next one).
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« Reply #546 on: June 08, 2020, 08:35:25 AM »

Anyone ever hear why Breakaway was not on Sunflower?

Because it had already been released by Capitol?

This raises an interesting point - Brother retained the rights to the albums Pet Sounds and following, but what about the singles which did not appear on an album in those '66 to '69 years?
The only single that didnít appear on an album between 1966 and 1969 was break away. And I donít believe that they regained the rights to their 1966-69 catalog by July 1970 when the first album for Warner Bros. was finally assembled. and if I am completely wrong on this, I apologize. But I think another reason that Break Away never appeared on an official album was because of the fact that it did so poorly on the charts. Also, it could be that so much time had passed that they refused to put an old song that had already been released on a new album. Obviously, especially with their late 70s catalog, they freely stole from their own archives of the early 70s material, but they never put any previously released tracks on a new album several years later, with the exception of Susie Cincinnati

Since 'Breakaway" wasn't on an album, Capitol retained the rights to it (and to "Celebrate The News", and to the single version of "Cotton Fields"). That's why Capitol was able to include "Break Away" on Spirit Of America six years later.

I just wonder why Cotton Fields wasnít on Sunflower over either At My Window or Our Sweet Love? It has really every member prominently except Al. Hell, Bruce has two songs (three, if you count At My Window). Al has three co-writing credits (modifying Itís About Time (and guitar) plus AMW and OSL and partial lead on Add Some Music. But the record feels absent of Al. Other than that, the albumís pretty much perfect.

Because Reprise didn't own the rights to "Cotton Fields", Capitol did. Al produced that version in August specifically for release as a single, and the band didn't sign with Warner-Reprise until November. Overseas, EMI Stateside was able to put it on Sunflower because they owned the rights to that album (and the next one).

Thanks c-man. Didnít realize that Cotton Fields was a Capitol single; I assumed Break Away was the last Capitol single and Cotton Fields was the first Reprise single.
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« Reply #547 on: June 08, 2020, 10:32:46 AM »

Anyone ever hear why Breakaway was not on Sunflower?

Because it had already been released by Capitol?

This raises an interesting point - Brother retained the rights to the albums Pet Sounds and following, but what about the singles which did not appear on an album in those '66 to '69 years?
The only single that didnít appear on an album between 1966 and 1969 was break away. And I donít believe that they regained the rights to their 1966-69 catalog by July 1970 when the first album for Warner Bros. was finally assembled. and if I am completely wrong on this, I apologize. But I think another reason that Break Away never appeared on an official album was because of the fact that it did so poorly on the charts. Also, it could be that so much time had passed that they refused to put an old song that had already been released on a new album. Obviously, especially with their late 70s catalog, they freely stole from their own archives of the early 70s material, but they never put any previously released tracks on a new album several years later, with the exception of Susie Cincinnati

Since 'Breakaway" wasn't on an album, Capitol retained the rights to it (and to "Celebrate The News", and to the single version of "Cotton Fields"). That's why Capitol was able to include "Break Away" on Spirit Of America six years later.

I just wonder why Cotton Fields wasnít on Sunflower over either At My Window or Our Sweet Love? It has really every member prominently except Al. Hell, Bruce has two songs (three, if you count At My Window). Al has three co-writing credits (modifying Itís About Time (and guitar) plus AMW and OSL and partial lead on Add Some Music. But the record feels absent of Al. Other than that, the albumís pretty much perfect.

Because Reprise didn't own the rights to "Cotton Fields", Capitol did. Al produced that version in August specifically for release as a single, and the band didn't sign with Warner-Reprise until November. Overseas, EMI Stateside was able to put it on Sunflower because they owned the rights to that album (and the next one).

Thanks c-man. Didnít realize that Cotton Fields was a Capitol single; I assumed Break Away was the last Capitol single and Cotton Fields was the first Reprise single.
Add Some Music was the first WB single, then Slip On Through
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« Reply #548 on: June 08, 2020, 12:47:58 PM »

ESQ referring to this as an upcoming 5 CD set
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« Reply #549 on: June 08, 2020, 03:24:47 PM »

ESQ referring to this as an upcoming 5 CD set

I think that was what was talked about before the lockdown, but good to have a bit more evidence/info. Thanks.
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