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« Reply #4050 on: August 31, 2021, 07:02:08 AM »

Greetings all,
While waiting on my sets to arrive, I'm hoping that someone can confirm or deny claims that these sets contain different mixes between them.
I read somewhere back in June that a specific mix of this or that was exclusive to the 2CD set and not the 5 CD set itself, and vise versa. Does anyone else recall this tidbit/news in regards to them?


Tidal has both sets available for streaming:

.......

There may be more stuff that I missed.

Whoa! Thank you sir!
So no unique mixes, but rather edits and fades to fit that format. Good to know. Thanks again!
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« Reply #4051 on: August 31, 2021, 07:06:11 AM »

Does anyone know offhand what the difference is between the book/liner notes in the 5CD set VS the 4LP set?

I only have the 5CD set, but since the book formats are different — 5CD is rectangular and the 4LP is square — there has to be some page layout differences.
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« Reply #4052 on: August 31, 2021, 09:06:25 AM »

This release of "Awake" is everything I always wished it would be. So beautiful. My jaw is on the floor.

Ditto X10000

That's one of the keepers for sure, it's good everyone who wants to can hear it now. We get to hear *THAT VOICE* singing lead, brilliantly at that, at a time when I think many fans thought that voice was not going to be heard again.

What a great piece of tape that is, one of my favorites at this point.
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« Reply #4053 on: August 31, 2021, 09:52:39 AM »

Day 5 of having this box and it’s still blowing me away. And most people are oblivious to the existence of this music.  Only a select few “get it” but those numbers will grow as time passes.  Thanks to all involved. And Steve Desper is the unsung hero of this music.
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« Reply #4054 on: August 31, 2021, 09:55:44 AM »

"4th of July" (2019 Mix):

The beautiful meditative instrumental moment from 2:03 until 2:14 sounds like the Twin Peaks theme music, recorded 20 years earlier.

Does anyone else hear the similarity?
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« Reply #4055 on: August 31, 2021, 10:06:12 AM »

The Beach Boys Feel Flows Chapter 3: Growing In Soul


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2J1F0J1e30
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« Reply #4056 on: August 31, 2021, 10:31:42 AM »

Susie Cinc , Back home- 7/3/76- Anaheim
Disney Girls- Blossom Music Center  6/11/82
This Whole World - Groton, Ct 6/19/88
Riot In Cellblock #9- Big Sur  Festival 10/3/1970
Its About Time- Fillmore East 6/27/1971
Surfs Up- Chicago 8/15/73
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Student Demonstration Time- Carnegie Hall 11/23/72
Long Promised Road- Carnegie Hall 11/23/72



Thank you, Mark! I tell you, I can't stop listening to "It's about Time". Carl's singing on the studio version is great already, but this live performance is breathtaking! What a singer!

Oh and let me add to all the thank yous and congratulations on the set! It sure looks and sounds like everything we could've hoped for when it comes to the Sunflower/Surf's Up era. I hope you guys know how much we fans appreciate that.
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« Reply #4057 on: August 31, 2021, 12:30:55 PM »

86 on Metacritic from seven reviews - five 80s and two 90s.

https://www.metacritic.com/music/feel-flows-the-sunflower-surfs-up-sessions-1969-1971/the-beach-boys

Included is a four-star review from Rolling Stone, which I'm afraid isn't nearly as sharp as the great review they ran for Wake The World/I Can Hear Music.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-album-reviews/feel-flows-the-sunflower-surfs-up-sessions-1969-1971-goes-deep-on-two-beach-boys-classics-1218719/
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« Reply #4058 on: August 31, 2021, 02:14:26 PM »

Just curious...

Why are Marcella and You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone included?  Weren't they recorded in 1972?

Sessions for both songs commenced 1971. Plus it makes a nice teaser for what's to come in the future.
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« Reply #4059 on: August 31, 2021, 03:08:50 PM »

Susie Cinc , Back home- 7/3/76- Anaheim
Disney Girls- Blossom Music Center  6/11/82
This Whole World - Groton, Ct 6/19/88
Riot In Cellblock #9- Big Sur  Festival 10/3/1970
Its About Time- Fillmore East 6/27/1971
Surfs Up- Chicago 8/15/73
Take Good Care of Your Feet, Add Some Music To Your Day-  NYC- 11/26/93
Student Demonstration Time- Carnegie Hall 11/23/72
Long Promised Road- Carnegie Hall 11/23/72

I goofed on SDT it is actually from the Fillmore East in 1971 ...so the credit in the box is correct......
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« Reply #4060 on: August 31, 2021, 03:39:44 PM »

Mark and Alan interview with Varitey

https://www.google.com/amp/s/variety.com/2021/music/news/beach-boys-feel-flows-box-set-interview-1235052996/amp/
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« Reply #4061 on: August 31, 2021, 03:44:51 PM »

Susie Cinc , Back home- 7/3/76- Anaheim
Disney Girls- Blossom Music Center  6/11/82
This Whole World - Groton, Ct 6/19/88
Riot In Cellblock #9- Big Sur  Festival 10/3/1970
Its About Time- Fillmore East 6/27/1971
Surfs Up- Chicago 8/15/73
Take Good Care of Your Feet, Add Some Music To Your Day-  NYC- 11/26/93
Student Demonstration Time- Carnegie Hall 11/23/72
Long Promised Road- Carnegie Hall 11/23/72

I goofed on SDT it is actually from the Fillmore East in 1971 ...so the credit in the box is correct......

Mr Linett, from listening to copies of both shows online, Student Demonstration Time sounds a lot closer to the Carnegie Hall shows than the Fillmore East. I believe your initial assessment was indeed correct.
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« Reply #4062 on: August 31, 2021, 03:47:05 PM »

Just curious...

Why are Marcella and You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone included?  Weren't they recorded in 1972?

Sessions for both songs commenced 1971. Plus it makes a nice teaser for what's to come in the future.

Not Mess of Help. Per Alan, their inclusion didn't have anything to do with when they were recorded.
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« Reply #4063 on: August 31, 2021, 04:54:32 PM »

Received my set yesterday, and have listened to three of the five CDs so far. So well done!
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« Reply #4064 on: August 31, 2021, 06:41:36 PM »

Just curious...

Why are Marcella and You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone included?  Weren't they recorded in 1972?

Sessions for both songs commenced 1971. Plus it makes a nice teaser for what's to come in the future.

Not Mess of Help. Per Alan, their inclusion didn't have anything to do with when they were recorded.

Okay - thanks - hadn't heard/read that Alan had said that it didn't have anything to do with when they were recorded.

Is this info below wrong?

Beatrice from Baltimore
Brian Wilson and Tandyn Almer song, recorded December 6–10, 1971 and January 31, 1972. According to Debbie Keil, a verse was "She got a hole in her stocking, she does a whole lot of rockin'. She do the shake down a Bumbles, she do the chicano rumble. Little Beatrice from Baltimore."
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“Beatrice from Baltimore” – A tapebox for “Beatrice from Baltimore” is in the Beach Boys' vault, though it features no vocals and eventually became, “You Need a Mess of Help to Stand Alone” on Carl & the Passions.
- from https://www.laweekly.com/brian-wilsons-secret-bedroom-tapes-a-track-by-track-description/

In a way, the early title / lyrics for the song explain why the song transitions abruptly from talking about the protagonist, switching to the "She don't know . . . ." lyrics, talking about a girl who has not been previously mentioned in the song.
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« Reply #4065 on: August 31, 2021, 07:11:25 PM »

Just curious...

Why are Marcella and You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone included?  Weren't they recorded in 1972?

Sessions for both songs commenced 1971. Plus it makes a nice teaser for what's to come in the future.

Not Mess of Help. Per Alan, their inclusion didn't have anything to do with when they were recorded.

Okay - thanks - hadn't heard/read that Alan had said that it didn't have anything to do with when they were recorded.

Is this info below wrong?

Beatrice from Baltimore
Brian Wilson and Tandyn Almer song, recorded December 6–10, 1971 and January 31, 1972. According to Debbie Keil, a verse was "She got a hole in her stocking, she does a whole lot of rockin'. She do the shake down a Bumbles, she do the chicano rumble. Little Beatrice from Baltimore."
- from https://beachboysdb.fandom.com/wiki/Unreleased_Songs

“Beatrice from Baltimore” – A tapebox for “Beatrice from Baltimore” is in the Beach Boys' vault, though it features no vocals and eventually became, “You Need a Mess of Help to Stand Alone” on Carl & the Passions.
- from https://www.laweekly.com/brian-wilsons-secret-bedroom-tapes-a-track-by-track-description/

In a way, the early title / lyrics for the song explain why the song transitions abruptly from talking about the protagonist, switching to the "She don't know . . . ." lyrics, talking about a girl who has not been previously mentioned in the song.

There's good contemporaneous evidence in the form of comments from Carl, and I think Mike, to support "Beatrice" being from very early '72, and not having been started by the time '71 ended.  It may not quite be definitive, but it's convincing.
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« Reply #4066 on: August 31, 2021, 07:18:19 PM »

My 5 CD box set arrived from ImportCDs today. A couple days earlier than I had expected. Now I need to rip FLACs of the discs so I can enjoy it at work.

A big Thank You! to Mark and Alan for fulfilling a wish I've had for 30 years.
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« Reply #4067 on: August 31, 2021, 08:21:00 PM »

Do we know what if any participation Marilyn had vocally? Sounds like she is on Feel Flows backing, or am I mistaken?
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« Reply #4068 on: August 31, 2021, 09:40:05 PM »

anyone else really digging "its natural" ?, It has a really cool feel to it with the keyboards, I am very curious to see how the finish song would have sounded.
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« Reply #4069 on: August 31, 2021, 10:58:40 PM »

anyone else really digging "its natural" ?, It has a really cool feel to it with the keyboards, I am very curious to see how the finish song would have sounded.

Absolutely. As I said in another thread, it sound kinda like a proto-Love You with the sound of the keys, the synth bass and the heavy, loud drums. Nice little song David Sandler had right there. Truly too bad him and Brian didn't work together more. Perhaps there is more left in the vaults from their time working together.
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« Reply #4070 on: September 01, 2021, 09:02:02 AM »

anyone else really digging "its natural" ?, It has a really cool feel to it with the keyboards, I am very curious to see how the finish song would have sounded.

To me it sounds like something XTC could have recorded in the late 80s. Very cool song.
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« Reply #4071 on: September 01, 2021, 09:13:36 AM »

anyone else really digging "its natural" ?, It has a really cool feel to it with the keyboards, I am very curious to see how the finish song would have sounded.

To me it sounds like something XTC could have recorded in the late 80s. Very cool song.

Good call! Very interesting track - really digging the organ sounds. And not just vintage XTC! On quite a few tracks throughout the set, there are musical elements, styles of playing, and sounds that would not be out of place on any number of 90's-2000's indie-alternative-lofi artists' albums. Like the Elephant 6 groups, Apples In Stereo, Animal Collective, Olivia Tremor Control, etc.

So it's interesting to hear what are unheard tracks from 70-71 sounding very much like what those specific genres of indie groups would sound like in their music 20-30 years later.
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« Reply #4072 on: September 01, 2021, 09:18:26 AM »

Do we know what if any participation Marilyn had vocally? Sounds like she is on Feel Flows backing, or am I mistaken?

I think so, too. The lead up to the chorus sounds like Carl, Brian and Marylin to me.
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« Reply #4073 on: September 01, 2021, 09:29:18 AM »

Do we know what if any participation Marilyn had vocally? Sounds like she is on Feel Flows backing, or am I mistaken?

I think so, too. The lead up to the chorus sounds like Carl, Brian and Marylin to me.

That'd be Carl, Diane and Marilyn.
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« Reply #4074 on: September 01, 2021, 09:32:26 AM »

That "My Solution" backing track - Hell, if that were on an Elephant 6 label album it would be praised as lo-fi alterna-genius!  Grin

Maybe it's just me, but hearing the organ track on that one reminded me of that old "H&V Sessions" boot where there are tracks of similar creepy organ tracks being recorded for the "Intro". It has that nighttime, stoned kind of feel that could have fit on Smile had those H&V organ parts been used on a mix. Same with the tape delay percussion.

Add that now to Take A Load Off Your Feet as tracks recorded in 71 or so that had the Smile production and sonic touches which were dismissed 4-5 years prior.
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