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« Reply #325 on: December 31, 2019, 06:48:12 PM »

Speaking of the set...

What is one thing you guys are the most excited about hearing?
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« Reply #326 on: December 31, 2019, 08:19:49 PM »

Everything from the sunflower era
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« Reply #327 on: December 31, 2019, 08:44:20 PM »

I have a feeling that we池e going to hear a song we致e never heard before...that痴 what excites me the most.
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« Reply #328 on: December 31, 2019, 09:46:37 PM »

Speaking of the set...

What is one thing you guys are the most excited about hearing?

Three things if I may... All of Sunflower vocals-only. Better quality versions of 選t痴 a New Day and 全ound of Free.
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« Reply #329 on: December 31, 2019, 09:56:08 PM »

Vocals only would be ace...I completely would be down with that. I致e long held that Sunflower is the band痴 most harmonically rich album, and hearing it presented as such would likely uncover a treasure trove of previously unheard backup parts.

I look forward to hearing more Brian in general.
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« Reply #330 on: December 31, 2019, 11:00:49 PM »

I'd be down for literally anything from 1969-71 (or any outtakes from the Beach Boys, really), but what intrigues me the most is Fred Vail Country Album. Apparently the vocals are not strong and the album is incomplete, but it'd be a real pleasure for me to get to listen to one of the rare occasions where Brian attempted country music.
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« Reply #331 on: January 01, 2020, 06:05:33 AM »

The question is why Brian chose to produce Fred! I mean-couldn稚 he have reached out to an actual country singer! Sort of a perverse decision-just like his choosing jack reiley to sing tree a year later!
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« Reply #332 on: January 01, 2020, 07:02:53 AM »

Speaking of the set...

What is one thing you guys are the most excited about hearing?

A HQ version of the original mix of Lady, the original version of Loop De Loop, alt lyrics Forever, possibly an alternate mix of This Whole World with the guitars more audible and the Eastern Airlines version, My Solution... The list goes on with all the stuff we know exists but hasn't been bootlegged.
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« Reply #333 on: January 01, 2020, 07:32:49 AM »

A decent quality stereo version of "Sound Of Free" would be high on my wish list for the set along with "Settle Down" and "Behold the Night" from the Dennis and Darryl Dragon aborted lp. Also, Sunflower released with the quality and stereo quality that my old Statside import lp has... So far I haven't heard that quality on CD (hissy hissy)
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« Reply #334 on: January 01, 2020, 07:45:40 AM »

Also, Sunflower released with the quality and stereo quality that my old Statside import lp has...

That (i.e. the UK issue) was my first copy of the album, and I'm reminded now of an odd fact -- "Got To Know The Woman" and "Deirdre" are reversed in the track order on that version. I wonder what that was all about.
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« Reply #335 on: January 01, 2020, 07:53:04 AM »

What I am most excited about hearing, if it exists...

Another mix/version of WIBNTLA
Some rocking live material
Any unreleased DW songs


Question for Mr. Desper:

If it has been discussed elsewhere I missed it, but I was curious if you have any memories of "I'm Going Your Way" that are worth sharing?
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« Reply #336 on: January 01, 2020, 08:07:03 AM »

Speaking of the set...

What is one thing you guys are the most excited about hearing?

A HQ version of the original mix of Lady, the original version of Loop De Loop, alt lyrics Forever, possibly an alternate mix of This Whole World with the guitars more audible and the Eastern Airlines version, My Solution... The list goes on with all the stuff we know exists but hasn't been bootlegged.


Completely forgot about the airline version...good one
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« Reply #337 on: January 01, 2020, 08:15:04 AM »

I have a feeling that we池e going to hear a song we致e never heard before...that痴 what excites me the most.

I think there's going to be songs as in plural. The Bedroom Tapes article say that there were A LOT of uncatalogued sessions found around this time.
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« Reply #338 on: January 01, 2020, 09:43:50 AM »

...I completely forgot about that, although I usually think of the period after the one covered in the set when I think of it.
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« Reply #339 on: January 01, 2020, 12:30:02 PM »

The question is why Brian chose to produce Fred! I mean-couldn稚 he have reached out to an actual country singer! Sort of a perverse decision-just like his choosing jack reiley to sing tree a year later!

No black-and-white answer to this question will ever appear. All we can do is theorize. My basic theory is that by this time the Beach Boys had become a closed-system. Brian, a few years back, had what seems to be a final (initial?) opportunity to work with (produce) outside singers-vocalists with actual talent. This was Redwood/Three Dog Night in 1967, and Brian of course did this on the sly... he was thwarted in this effort by the band/Family, and he also caved-in and allowed himself to be thwarted.  Brian's thing with the Beach Boys - his ability to work with them in the way he wanted to - was exhausted, or depleted by the end of the 1960s. (or at least mostly so).  He obviously still had an itch to produce or work in contexts outside the Beach Boys, but he knew (or felt, on some deeper level) that he couldn't do it; that it was never going to work, and he had to remain a "Beach Boy."

So according to this theory, the answer is: no, Brian couldn't have reached out to an actual, legitimate country singer.  One thing he could do, though,  is safely mess around with trusted, non-threatening insiders like Fred Vail, American Spring (members of the Beach Boy family) and, for instance, whatever he was doing with Rocky Pamplin in the late seventies. This is not serious stuff.  My guess about the "Fred tapes" is that they sound like American Spring's "Tennessee Waltz" but with Fred singing... Who knows
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« Reply #340 on: January 01, 2020, 10:38:22 PM »

According to the Peter Ames Carlin book, Brian痴 reputation wasn稚 the greatest in the industry at this point in time, so that may add to it.

Then again, the correct answer may be the simplest... he was just doing him a favor
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« Reply #341 on: January 02, 2020, 06:20:17 AM »

I would love an official release of My Solution! Although I'm not sure if it was recorded the same year or after the Surfs Up lp. I'm excited that Carnival is out! Also Out In the Country, another mix of 4th of July.
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« Reply #342 on: January 02, 2020, 07:14:18 AM »

The question is why Brian chose to produce Fred! I mean-couldn稚 he have reached out to an actual country singer! Sort of a perverse decision-just like his choosing jack reiley to sing tree a year later!

No black-and-white answer to this question will ever appear. All we can do is theorize. My basic theory is that by this time the Beach Boys had become a closed-system. Brian, a few years back, had what seems to be a final (initial?) opportunity to work with (produce) outside singers-vocalists with actual talent. This was Redwood/Three Dog Night in 1967, and Brian of course did this on the sly... he was thwarted in this effort by the band/Family, and he also caved-in and allowed himself to be thwarted.  Brian's thing with the Beach Boys - his ability to work with them in the way he wanted to - was exhausted, or depleted by the end of the 1960s. (or at least mostly so).  He obviously still had an itch to produce or work in contexts outside the Beach Boys, but he knew (or felt, on some deeper level) that he couldn't do it; that it was never going to work, and he had to remain a "Beach Boy."

So according to this theory, the answer is: no, Brian couldn't have reached out to an actual, legitimate country singer.  One thing he could do, though,  is safely mess around with trusted, non-threatening insiders like Fred Vail, American Spring (members of the Beach Boy family) and, for instance, whatever he was doing with Rocky Pamplin in the late seventies. This is not serious stuff.  My guess about the "Fred tapes" is that they sound like American Spring's "Tennessee Waltz" but with Fred singing... Who knows

Brian clearly had a penchant for working with artists/projects seemingly on a lark from time to time. The above theories are interesting to chew on.

There's also the possibility, by 1970 or so, that Brian may have lacked the self-confidence as a producer to produce a *major* artist even if one had materialized for him to work with.

In between "major" and the fluke insider examples like Fred Vail would be something like those sessions during this time with Don Goldberg that only materialized several years back. He was an unknown, but was also not previously an "insider" in the organization. The band couldn't have been too threatened by Brian working with Goldberg; Goldberg brought two of his own songs (one of which Mike seemingly enthusiastically tackled himself), and did a version of a BB song ("Out in the Country") that was ultimately so unmemorable to the Beach Boys that nobody could remember years later who even wrote the thing.
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« Reply #343 on: January 02, 2020, 07:26:25 AM »

Wait, what's this about an "airline" version of "This Whole World"Huh How have I not heard it??
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« Reply #344 on: January 02, 2020, 08:41:05 AM »

Wait, what's this about an "airline" version of "This Whole World"Huh How have I not heard it??

A version of the song was recorded on 3/12/71 for an Eastern Airlines commercial.  I don't think it's ever been booted.
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« Reply #345 on: January 02, 2020, 08:45:51 AM »

Speaking of the set...

What is one thing you guys are the most excited about hearing?

I'm not sure if there are any, but session tracks for 'A Day In The Life Of A Tree' would be incredible - and a backing track, and a vocals only (especially of that outro).

The extended version of WIBNTLA. Brian's piano demo of 'Til I Die' should be heard by everybody - it's just such a chill piano track...also, any early demo versions with vocals would be awesome (if they exist). I can't even imagine all the goodies we'll get with this!
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« Reply #346 on: January 02, 2020, 03:26:51 PM »

Where is the tambourine in the second verse of I'm Going Your Way that I've heard in booted versions? Also is this version a bit slower than the booted version (I'm assuming that this one is the tape at the correct speed). 
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« Reply #347 on: January 03, 2020, 03:09:44 AM »

looking forward to a possible  version of Tree with a Dennis lead vocal
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« Reply #348 on: January 03, 2020, 04:29:00 AM »

looking forward to a possible  version of Tree with a Dennis lead vocal

Unless some sort of lost early mix is uncovered, there won't be. No other lead vocals are on the multitrack.
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« Reply #349 on: January 03, 2020, 04:34:27 AM »

Where is the tambourine in the second verse of I'm Going Your Way that I've heard in booted versions? Also is this version a bit slower than the booted version (I'm assuming that this one is the tape at the correct speed). 

Based on Bruce's squeaky voice at the end of the bootleg I'm guessing the new release is the correct key for the track, which Dennis then sped up a semitone for a second single-tracked attempt at the lead vocal (presumably the non 'alternate' version that'll be on whatever is released this year).
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