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« Reply #2500 on: November 22, 2020, 01:07:02 PM »

Right - that's what I meant in my earlier post about the new backing track being performed to fit the existing vocal, rather than the more usual way of doing it the other way around...!
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« Reply #2501 on: November 22, 2020, 01:07:20 PM »

The question now is, is it a vintage job, or a recent edit on a newly discovered backing track?
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« Reply #2502 on: November 22, 2020, 01:15:26 PM »

Maybe the box set isn't releasing until next year, so this is a copyright dump to keep the 1970 material from going into public domain?

That’s my prediction but either way I’m happy

Yes, that's what makes the most sense. I think some of the unheard stuff was still "available" on that Brother Rarities CD somebody found (or elsewhere), so it could have gotten released otherwise.

I wonder how curated those samples are? Some of them are perfectly tantalizing yet reasonably satisfying (end at decent spots). And they once again prove how mere seconds of isolated Beach Boys background vocals are life-affirming.
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« Reply #2503 on: November 22, 2020, 01:15:50 PM »

It needs to be said that whoever brokered this piece accord between the various BBs parties to finally make this happen deserves a Nobel peace prize in pop music. Screw all of this casino awards BS; a new award category needs to be given to the unsung hero(s) of this set, including Howie, Jon, and who knows who else. That will probably never happen most likely in any official capacity, but it's nevertheless well deserved.

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« Reply #2504 on: November 22, 2020, 01:28:52 PM »

Another crazy thing about this is that 64 tracks is a lot and it probably isn't even all of them. For example, the San Miguel track is just instrumental but we definitely heard one with the vocals when Mark previewed it on that Youtube video.


You're right! And Fred Vail's version of "All for the Love of a Girl" isn't here either.
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« Reply #2505 on: November 22, 2020, 01:52:58 PM »

Like I keep saying... it's possible this isn't the full boxed set track listing. I wouldn't assume anything is necessarily definitely missing in action yet. Elsewhere, the speculation is that these are only 1970-recorded tracks... there may still be details of the 1971-recorded (and maybe even 1972-recorded) material to come.

Which... would be nice. Obviously.
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« Reply #2506 on: November 22, 2020, 01:55:18 PM »

I mean, this stuff objectively does contain material from both 1969 and 1971. There's just as much as there is from 1970.
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« Reply #2507 on: November 22, 2020, 01:57:01 PM »

We're such a lucky fanbase. What a joy to even get a taste of what's headed our way. Thank you to all involved!
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« Reply #2508 on: November 22, 2020, 02:20:55 PM »

Like I keep saying... it's possible this isn't the full boxed set track listing. I wouldn't assume anything is necessarily definitely missing in action yet. Elsewhere, the speculation is that these are only 1970-recorded tracks... there may still be details of the 1971-recorded (and maybe even 1972-recorded) material to come.

Which... would be nice. Obviously.

I hope so
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« Reply #2509 on: November 22, 2020, 02:23:42 PM »

The live Riot In Cell Block #9 sounds like the '70 Big Sur Folk Festival version (Mike's intro is the same) but in far superior sound quality than circulating recordings ... fingers crossed for the full show without audio drop outs.
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« Reply #2510 on: November 22, 2020, 03:09:25 PM »

It needs to be said that whoever brokered this piece accord between the various BBs parties to finally make this happen deserves a Nobel peace prize in pop music. Screw all of this casino awards BS; a new award category needs to be given to the unsung hero(s) of this set, including Howie, Jon, and who knows who else. That will probably never happen most likely in any official capacity, but it's nevertheless well deserved.

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I agree
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« Reply #2511 on: November 22, 2020, 03:10:59 PM »

Would be great if Howie or somebody in the know could tell us what the Allmusic release actually is

It's most likely the projected tracklist for Feel Flows as it's highly doubtful that this is a separate project.  Although that would be pretty sweet. 
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« Reply #2512 on: November 22, 2020, 03:23:30 PM »

Would be great if Howie or somebody in the know could tell us what the Allmusic release actually is

It's most likely the projected tracklist for Feel Flows as it's highly doubtful that this is a separate project.  Although that would be pretty sweet. 
Feel Flows is expected to be 5 discs with a lot more material on it than this.  Sounds like the concert that will be included Al alluded to is from the Big Sur Folk Festival.
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« Reply #2513 on: November 22, 2020, 03:27:29 PM »

Perhaps the samples are from a two-disc version of the larger box, for those with lower budgets?
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« Reply #2514 on: November 22, 2020, 03:28:21 PM »

Would be great if Howie or somebody in the know could tell us what the Allmusic release actually is

It's most likely the projected tracklist for Feel Flows as it's highly doubtful that this is a separate project.  Although that would be pretty sweet.  
This is almost certainly a separate release to the 5 disc set we were initially told about... considering:

1) It's not called Feel Flows (confirmed title of the box set)
2) We were told Feel Flows would feature a full concert recording (definitely the Big Sur concert, only Riot is included here, and Aren't You Glad was released on Sunshine Tomorrow)
3) There is only one Dennis track included out of the 25 or so minutes that Howie mentioned
4) This is only 64 tracks, ~180 minutes of audio. This can fit on 3 CDs; surely they weren't planning on spreading it out to 5 CDs with about 13 tracks on each disc.

My theory is that this is a digital only release that's being released for two reasons:

-to preserve copyright for the 1970 tracks that are included
-to act as a teaser to a bigger box set (hopefully!!!) as almost all of this 1969-1971 material does not need to be released in 2020 for legal reasons.
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« Reply #2515 on: November 22, 2020, 03:31:10 PM »

Would be great if Howie or somebody in the know could tell us what the Allmusic release actually is

It's most likely the projected tracklist for Feel Flows as it's highly doubtful that this is a separate project.  Although that would be pretty sweet. 
Feel Flows is expected to be 5 discs with a lot more material on it than this.  Sounds like the concert that will be included Al alluded to is from the Big Sur Folk Festival.

Yeah exactly.

I dont see this being the "feel flows" box set
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« Reply #2516 on: November 22, 2020, 04:25:51 PM »

I listen to my music on a Sony boombox stereo in my bedroom, whose acoustics produce a virtual surround effect on some songs, including those from Sunflower and Surf's Up, so this box will be a wonderful listen for me when it emerges.
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« Reply #2517 on: November 22, 2020, 06:43:03 PM »

The fact that the release date on this is listed as last Monday suggests this isn't a copyright dump that we'll be able to buy. More likely, it's a streaming-only album that was made available for minutes then taken down -- not unlike what (is believed to have) happened earlier this year with the Beatles 1969 Recordings Spotify album that someone stumbled upon:

https://www.reddit.com/r/beatles/comments/iqld9d/the_saga_of_1969_recordings_a_beatles_spotify/

I'd happily plunk down money to buy it, but I agree that it's more likely a copyright placeholder until Feel Flows is finally released.
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« Reply #2518 on: November 22, 2020, 06:54:57 PM »

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« Reply #2519 on: November 22, 2020, 07:28:59 PM »

Another reason this probably isn't Feel Flows--doesn't seem to include I'm Going Your Way, which was part of that pre-release with 3 songs last year.
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« Reply #2520 on: November 22, 2020, 07:29:28 PM »

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« Reply #2521 on: November 22, 2020, 07:31:07 PM »

Al Jardine just called in live to Billy Hinsche's show on Facebook and said that the Feel Flows box set will be released in May or June of 2021.
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« Reply #2522 on: November 22, 2020, 07:48:28 PM »

Maybe the box set isn't releasing until next year, so this is a copyright dump to keep the 1970 material from going into public domain?

That’s my prediction but either way I’m happy

I agree that this makes the most sense but wouldn’t it make more sense to release the bare minimum like they did last year so as not to spill out too much? And even if this is like scottythered suggested,

 
The fact that the release date on this is listed as last Monday suggests this isn't a copyright dump that we'll be able to buy. More likely, it's a streaming-only album that was made available for minutes then taken down -- not unlike what (is believed to have) happened earlier this year with the Beatles 1969 Recordings Spotify album that someone stumbled upon:

https://www.reddit.com/r/beatles/comments/iqld9d/the_saga_of_1969_recordings_a_beatles_spotify/

I'd happily plunk down money to buy it, but I agree that it's more likely a copyright placeholder until Feel Flows is finally released.

... which I think is more likely, they still didn’t have to “release” all of this for a few seconds? And even more, how did AllMusic get these samples if they were only briefly up. The only thing that would make a little bit of sense is if they were able to grab only You Never Give Me Your Money, since it’s only 40 seconds long.

Al Jardine just called in live to Billy Hinsche's show on Facebook and said that the Feel Flows box set will be released in May or June of 2021.

Awesome!! Hopefully this date stays put.
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« Reply #2523 on: November 22, 2020, 08:06:59 PM »

Al Jardine just called in live to Billy Hinsche's show on Facebook and said that the Feel Flows box set will be released in May or June of 2021.
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« Reply #2524 on: November 22, 2020, 08:12:34 PM »

Billy's show:
https://www.facebook.com/billy.hinsche/videos/5355969761095940
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