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« Reply #450 on: December 04, 2018, 02:07:23 AM »

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And like Jay mentioned, whoever has the desire to continue touring could front the band
It's HeyJude's point in Reply #442.

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In my mind, an ideal situation would be similar to Jay's, but would also include Bruce.
Again, you address the other poster's point, this time RubberSoul13's in Reply 446.
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« Reply #451 on: December 04, 2018, 05:53:57 AM »

I should have known not to post that. Of course, why have a deeply rooted psychological and plausible reason, when we can just blame evil egomaniac Mike Love's greed for money and power as the leader of his Beach Boys. Sometimes I forget which board I'm on. This constant hate is getting tiresome and old.

I think both you and HeyJude have nearly the same point though. Mike has admitted in the recent past that, due to his upbringing and the lousy jobs he had growing up, he has always worked his tail off to make sure there is food on his and his family's plate. Why does Mike want control of the Beach Boys name/band? Probably two main reasons: one, it ensures food on his plate (even though he could quit now and not starve, he still has that "work your tail off" drive and knows he has a lot of mouths to feed in his band), and two, he probably does like the recognition of his role in the current band after decades of hearing that Brian is the genius of the band...this isn't any hate against Mike, but just a rational look at why he makes the decisions he makes. He does show off his lavish lifestyle (has been doing it for decades) and he probably does it because he's proud of what he has been able to accomplish in life despite a lot of hardships.

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when we can just blame evil egomaniac Mike Love's greed for money and power as the leader of his Beach Boys. Sometimes I forget which board I'm on. This constant hate is getting tiresome and old.

Jay, you're claiming that pointing out some fairly obvious and provable points about Mike Love are somehow "constant hate". I know the other spectrum of the online Beach Boys fandom really likes to forget this stuff, but Mike Love is indeed the man who just a little over 10 years ago tried to sue Brian for a lot of money over a tiny picture on a freebie CD and in that lawsuit claimed that Brian only took drugs and did absolutely zero songwriting for decades after 1968 - this is all in black and white in the lawsuit. So when people make the claim that Mike does things out of greed or egomaniac tendencies, they aren't just pulling this from some fringe tin-foil-hat part of the fandom. You can call it "hate" but it's just pretty obvious stuff that some fans want to ignore because they want to live in some Beach Boys fantasy world of sunshine and rainbows.

There is definitely a middle ground in this fandom where we can still appreciate Mike's contributions to this incredible music whilst also being able to admit that Mike isn't perfect and has done some rather lousy things to people. Just because a few people on one board really hate this guy doesn't mean the rest of the fandom needs to run to the opposite end of the spectrum and completely ignore some very obvious history of this band and it's members.
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« Reply #452 on: December 05, 2018, 07:10:02 AM »

I think this topic has been raised with Brian's band members, and the response is ... mixed. As I recall, sbout half would be interested in carrying on, but another half aren't that keen on doing it without BW.
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« Reply #453 on: December 05, 2018, 09:07:27 AM »

None of them have the tact to bow out gracefully with a farewell tour...there have been countless opportunities in the past oh...forty years or so, to do something like that and it could have left them in such a better place. It'll never happen. I wouldn't necessarily say they'll never perform together again. But with Mike, Bruce, and Brian don't even have their 2012 chops anymore to do something on a C50 scale. To market them at that height, in those kinds of venues...would end up being an embarrassment.

I've said it before, I'll say it again...as a fan (not making any judgements or assumptions), I'd like to see "The Beach Boys" defined as Brian Wilson's touring band with John Cowsill and Scott Totten...fronted by Mike Love, Al Jardine, and David Marks. Mike brings the signature showmanship that, like it or not, is associated with the attitude of this band on stage. Alan brings authenticity in his vocals and sincerity that can't be replaced. David brings some sick guitar licks and adds to the authenticity. Bruce Johnston is disposable. He played his keyboard audibly, one time Sunday night on "White Christmas" and it was just poorly timed rolling chords on the downbeats. His vocals are like a notch between a crackle and a whisper. He can surf his days away in Santa Barbara. And then there's Brian. I'd like to see Brian given a free pass. If he wants to come along, there's a keyboard and his lead vocals are waiting for him. If he doesn't feel up to a run of shows, then the production can run all systems go without him present as it has many times before. The key would be to never advertise or confirm his presence, and that any extended expense of his travel beyond what the rest of the band requires, is covered himself...as that simply isn't fair to people who are out year round making a living off this.

BUT...that'll never happen. Of course, timing plays a part, but I suspect Brian's show will stop before Mike's does. I'd imagine his band will split and find their own work, very easily, elsewhere. Blondie will disappear back into the darkness, and Alan will continue with his couple dozen solo shows a year. When it's time for Mike to stop or he is stopped by higher powers, I have zero doubt that "The Beach Boys" will tour. The rock and roll answer to the Glen Miller Orchestra. I doubt Bruce would stay without Mike. Would David and/or Alan for that matter, be invited without the Lovester around? Would that then give Bruce reason to stay? All interesting thoughts for sure.


I would want to see this, but leave out Cowsill and keep Brians band intact with the addition of Scott..

It would actually be amazing if Brians band would carry on after Brian retires, I'd really want to see a tour with the band on it's own bursting out the hits - they were always the superior backing band between the two imo..

Me too.  Al, Brian's band plus Scott Totten would be about as good as you could get in my opinion. 
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« Reply #454 on: December 06, 2018, 05:07:31 AM »



Mike & Bruce + Hanson, "Finally It's Christmas" live on Today: https://youtu.be/ZI_I7hOGbrU




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« Reply #455 on: December 06, 2018, 05:10:14 AM »



The Beach Boys - Santa's Beard / Little St.Nick, live in Greensburg, PA, December 4th: https://youtu.be/fCMWhqpTuwo

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« Reply #456 on: December 06, 2018, 01:31:10 PM »

Yeah, that's about how they sounded the night before.
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« Reply #457 on: December 08, 2018, 09:52:14 AM »

Never seen this happen before: Mike forgets the lyrics to surfin safari!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhxErnS24wk

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« Reply #458 on: December 08, 2018, 02:02:20 PM »

Never seen this happen before: Mike forgets the lyrics to surfin safari!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhxErnS24wk



He didn't quite "forget the words"...he jut messed up the form. He started into the chorus after the guitar solo, heard them shift to the IV chord on the verse, and then it sounds like Foskett takes over to finish the phrase as Mike hops back in with another go round of the chorus.
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« Reply #459 on: December 10, 2018, 06:26:55 PM »

Seein Mike and Bruce in MD, we’re at intermission currently and Foskett has had no leads so far, not even DWB. Maybe he’s sick but he didn’t even sing falsetto. Scott’s been doing it all, i saw them in Baltimore last week and they sound just as rough, missing cues forgetting words, starting songs late. They cut when i grow up, don’t think I’ve ever been to a show where they haven’t played that. Merry Christmas Baby has been added with Christian on lead at least it’s on the stage setlist. Having seen Brian and mike both in the last month it’s really getting cringy to watch. I love the band they’re my idols this is my 23rd show and I’m only 23 and I’ll continue to see shows when they’re in my area but they’ve both taken steps back in recent years but i honestly can’t be mad at either group. They still play the music great and it’s awesome to see them.
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« Reply #460 on: December 17, 2018, 10:31:55 PM »

Someone mentioned Mike singing along with a recording of himself on the Christmas songs... Well, after watching many videos, like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoGwIHATpF0, I honestly don't think that's true. I only hear one voice, and you can hear some bad notes- however, he does sound fantastic!

There are several videos of Mike singing with recordings of himself (the recent Hallmark appearance and Fourth of July medley) ... Like I mentioned in a previous post, I don't really mind that he does it, if it makes his voice sound stronger (like in the fourth of july performance). The reason I don't mind is because he still is singing and it is audible, so it's not that different from the way Foskett used to double BW on leads. I would however be disappointing if the group started lip syncing live, which I don't think will ever happen.

From the videos I've seen, I think the bands sounds all around pretty good. Maybe a little tired, but Mike and Bruce are really getting up there, and Foskett turned 60 not too long ago. With that in mind, it blows my mind how good these guys sound. Mike doesn't quite move like he used to, but he's still a captivating frontman. Bruce, in a way is like Brian: while he may not play his piano to often, or sing as many leads as we wish he would, just having his presence and watching him enjoy the music is worth price of admission. After all, these guys are The Beach Boys. We are so lucky  to have any of the members still touring, let alone Mike & Bruce touring together, giving a near perfect (perfect would be impossible) overview of The Beach Boys 50+ year career, Brian with Al & Blondie playing with arguably the world's greatest backing band, and David often playing with Dean Torrence and the Surf City Allstars.

We won't get to discuss The Beach Boys/Brian Wilson/Al Jardine/etc... tours forever.... So even if you're frustrated that The Beach Boys only consist of Mike & Bruce as original members, if you get a chance to see them- do it. All of these guys are living legends.
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« Reply #461 on: December 25, 2018, 02:15:20 PM »

Check out this awesome video of Scott Totten showing his pedal setup and playing some classic BBs riffs!! Also, notice "Kona Coast" playing in the background...  Also notice that Scott starts to play Let's Go Trippin'... Man, Scott really knows his Beach Boys. Thank god for him, because after Carl died and until Scott became musical director, the band sounded like a near perfect  representation of The Beach Boys but once Scott joined, Mike's band really does sound like The Beach Boys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-5dCSxQl3A
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« Reply #462 on: December 25, 2018, 04:21:07 PM »

That’s actually Melekalikimaka in the background ( the Christmas version of Kona Coast). I agree that Scott has been huge for Mike but I disagree that the band between 98 and when Scott took over as director were great representations . I went to several shows that were bar cover band like
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« Reply #463 on: January 07, 2019, 11:49:20 AM »

Posting this here and on one other thread where it seems it might be of the most interest. A friend saw the touring BBs in 2017 and Foskett didn't sing at all. Must've had a cold or something. Anyway, Brian E sang all the falsetto parts that show and here's some video with many more songs by same poster: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf1LYUPBozY
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« Reply #464 on: January 08, 2019, 01:02:52 AM »

Posting this here and on one other thread where it seems it might be of the most interest. A friend saw the touring BBs in 2017 and Foskett didn't sing at all. Must've had a cold or something. Anyway, Brian E sang all the falsetto parts that show and here's some video with many more songs by same poster: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf1LYUPBozY

I was at that particular show, and yes, Jeff was suffering from a bad cold that night.
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« Reply #465 on: January 09, 2019, 10:42:22 AM »

I couldn't find a Beach Boys 2019 Tour thread, so I'll just post this here.


The Beach Boys at Silver Creek Event Center

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« Reply #466 on: January 09, 2019, 02:23:16 PM »

That was very carefully crafted to only show Mike and Bruce, for a change!
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« Reply #467 on: January 09, 2019, 03:17:52 PM »

That was very carefully crafted to only show Mike and Bruce, for a change!

They've added to the Youtube description: "This concert will not feature Brian Wilson, Al Jardine or David Marks."
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« Reply #468 on: January 17, 2019, 04:48:47 PM »

A very similar commercial has been airing in the Atlanta market the past few days, as well.
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« Reply #469 on: February 01, 2019, 11:30:37 AM »

I was just listening to KYW 1060, the news radio station in Philly that everyone listens to for traffic, weather, and school closings when it snows like it is currently...), and an ad for a Mike & Bruce Beach Boys show on July 27th in Atlantic City came on, Hard Rock casino. First I had heard it, or a BB themed concert ad in general, for awhile. Anyway, here's the links for those interested:
https://www.hardrockhotels.com/atlantic-city/hotel-home
https://www1.ticketmaster.com/the-beach-boys-now-then/event/02005637ED669536

What stood out about the billing and ad included that it's being billed as "Now And Then"...anyone know what that title refers to beyond the obvious? For once there was no 50th anniversary tag to celebrate something from 1969, so I guess this tag replaced the 50th tag for 2019.

I did not see on the web links nor hear in the radio ad the disclaimer about Brian-Al-Blondie not appearing at this show as someone saw in another market's promotions.

What I noticed in the radio ad was that the majority of the BB's original music clips were using Brian's falsetto parts as the sound clip - Whether that's coincidence or not, it was noticeable. Considering the ad directed you to both the BB's and Mike's own website for more info, most of the audio heard in the spot was spotlighting Brian's falsetto hooks. I just found that a bit odd considering Mike's vocals would be a more expected spotlight to advertise his shows. Anyhoo...



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« Reply #470 on: February 01, 2019, 12:40:30 PM »

I was just listening to KYW 1060, the news radio station in Philly that everyone listens to for traffic, weather, and school closings when it snows like it is currently...), and an ad for a Mike & Bruce Beach Boys show on July 27th in Atlantic City came on, Hard Rock casino. First I had heard it, or a BB themed concert ad in general, for awhile. Anyway, here's the links for those interested:
https://www.hardrockhotels.com/atlantic-city/hotel-home
https://www1.ticketmaster.com/the-beach-boys-now-then/event/02005637ED669536

What stood out about the billing and ad included that it's being billed as "Now And Then"...anyone know what that title refers to beyond the obvious? For once there was no 50th anniversary tag to celebrate something from 1969, so I guess this tag replaced the 50th tag for 2019.

I did not see on the web links nor hear in the radio ad the disclaimer about Brian-Al-Blondie not appearing at this show as someone saw in another market's promotions.

What I noticed in the radio ad was that the majority of the BB's original music clips were using Brian's falsetto parts as the sound clip - Whether that's coincidence or not, it was noticeable. Considering the ad directed you to both the BB's and Mike's own website for more info, most of the audio heard in the spot was spotlighting Brian's falsetto hooks. I just found that a bit odd considering Mike's vocals would be a more expected spotlight to advertise his shows. Anyhoo...



Now And Then appears to be the tour name since at least last June when they were in the UK. They had a t-shirt for it which had lots of pictures of the band from all the eras - concentric circles, sixties on outside, then seventies (including one with Ricky and Blondie), eighties, then one with a 90s photo and reunion tour, and then finally in the centre the current touring band.
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« Reply #471 on: February 21, 2019, 04:57:53 AM »

Mike’s BBs are coming to Honolulu for a show.

I was shocked to see a promo for the concert on TV using C50 footage. Included was a close-up of Brian singing at his piano, several shots of Al, one with David, one with Bruce and like five of Mike.

This kind of thing happens too often to be accidental. Fans excited to see Brian with the band will certainly be disappointed!
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« Reply #472 on: February 21, 2019, 06:45:07 AM »

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« Reply #473 on: February 21, 2019, 11:40:43 AM »

I couldn't find a Beach Boys 2019 Tour thread, so I'll just post this here.


The Beach Boys at Silver Creek Event Center

The Beach Boys perform live at Silver Creek Event Center at Four Winds Casino New Buffalo on August 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3pY50TPIQw

I just lazily changed the 8 to a 9 lol
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« Reply #474 on: February 21, 2019, 12:48:21 PM »

Time for a Hawaii vacation for me, OSD, and Add some?  Evil

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