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« Reply #450 on: December 04, 2018, 02:07:23 AM »

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And like Jay mentioned, whoever has the desire to continue touring could front the band
It's HeyJude's point in Reply #442.

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In my mind, an ideal situation would be similar to Jay's, but would also include Bruce.
Again, you address the other poster's point, this time RubberSoul13's in Reply 446.
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« Reply #451 on: December 04, 2018, 05:53:57 AM »

I should have known not to post that. Of course, why have a deeply rooted psychological and plausible reason, when we can just blame evil egomaniac Mike Love's greed for money and power as the leader of his Beach Boys. Sometimes I forget which board I'm on. This constant hate is getting tiresome and old.

I think both you and HeyJude have nearly the same point though. Mike has admitted in the recent past that, due to his upbringing and the lousy jobs he had growing up, he has always worked his tail off to make sure there is food on his and his family's plate. Why does Mike want control of the Beach Boys name/band? Probably two main reasons: one, it ensures food on his plate (even though he could quit now and not starve, he still has that "work your tail off" drive and knows he has a lot of mouths to feed in his band), and two, he probably does like the recognition of his role in the current band after decades of hearing that Brian is the genius of the band...this isn't any hate against Mike, but just a rational look at why he makes the decisions he makes. He does show off his lavish lifestyle (has been doing it for decades) and he probably does it because he's proud of what he has been able to accomplish in life despite a lot of hardships.

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when we can just blame evil egomaniac Mike Love's greed for money and power as the leader of his Beach Boys. Sometimes I forget which board I'm on. This constant hate is getting tiresome and old.

Jay, you're claiming that pointing out some fairly obvious and provable points about Mike Love are somehow "constant hate". I know the other spectrum of the online Beach Boys fandom really likes to forget this stuff, but Mike Love is indeed the man who just a little over 10 years ago tried to sue Brian for a lot of money over a tiny picture on a freebie CD and in that lawsuit claimed that Brian only took drugs and did absolutely zero songwriting for decades after 1968 - this is all in black and white in the lawsuit. So when people make the claim that Mike does things out of greed or egomaniac tendencies, they aren't just pulling this from some fringe tin-foil-hat part of the fandom. You can call it "hate" but it's just pretty obvious stuff that some fans want to ignore because they want to live in some Beach Boys fantasy world of sunshine and rainbows.

There is definitely a middle ground in this fandom where we can still appreciate Mike's contributions to this incredible music whilst also being able to admit that Mike isn't perfect and has done some rather lousy things to people. Just because a few people on one board really hate this guy doesn't mean the rest of the fandom needs to run to the opposite end of the spectrum and completely ignore some very obvious history of this band and it's members.
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« Reply #452 on: December 05, 2018, 07:10:02 AM »

I think this topic has been raised with Brian's band members, and the response is ... mixed. As I recall, sbout half would be interested in carrying on, but another half aren't that keen on doing it without BW.
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« Reply #453 on: December 05, 2018, 09:07:27 AM »

None of them have the tact to bow out gracefully with a farewell tour...there have been countless opportunities in the past oh...forty years or so, to do something like that and it could have left them in such a better place. It'll never happen. I wouldn't necessarily say they'll never perform together again. But with Mike, Bruce, and Brian don't even have their 2012 chops anymore to do something on a C50 scale. To market them at that height, in those kinds of venues...would end up being an embarrassment.

I've said it before, I'll say it again...as a fan (not making any judgements or assumptions), I'd like to see "The Beach Boys" defined as Brian Wilson's touring band with John Cowsill and Scott Totten...fronted by Mike Love, Al Jardine, and David Marks. Mike brings the signature showmanship that, like it or not, is associated with the attitude of this band on stage. Alan brings authenticity in his vocals and sincerity that can't be replaced. David brings some sick guitar licks and adds to the authenticity. Bruce Johnston is disposable. He played his keyboard audibly, one time Sunday night on "White Christmas" and it was just poorly timed rolling chords on the downbeats. His vocals are like a notch between a crackle and a whisper. He can surf his days away in Santa Barbara. And then there's Brian. I'd like to see Brian given a free pass. If he wants to come along, there's a keyboard and his lead vocals are waiting for him. If he doesn't feel up to a run of shows, then the production can run all systems go without him present as it has many times before. The key would be to never advertise or confirm his presence, and that any extended expense of his travel beyond what the rest of the band requires, is covered himself...as that simply isn't fair to people who are out year round making a living off this.

BUT...that'll never happen. Of course, timing plays a part, but I suspect Brian's show will stop before Mike's does. I'd imagine his band will split and find their own work, very easily, elsewhere. Blondie will disappear back into the darkness, and Alan will continue with his couple dozen solo shows a year. When it's time for Mike to stop or he is stopped by higher powers, I have zero doubt that "The Beach Boys" will tour. The rock and roll answer to the Glen Miller Orchestra. I doubt Bruce would stay without Mike. Would David and/or Alan for that matter, be invited without the Lovester around? Would that then give Bruce reason to stay? All interesting thoughts for sure.


I would want to see this, but leave out Cowsill and keep Brians band intact with the addition of Scott..

It would actually be amazing if Brians band would carry on after Brian retires, I'd really want to see a tour with the band on it's own bursting out the hits - they were always the superior backing band between the two imo..

Me too.  Al, Brian's band plus Scott Totten would be about as good as you could get in my opinion. 
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« Reply #454 on: December 06, 2018, 05:07:31 AM »



Mike & Bruce + Hanson, "Finally It's Christmas" live on Today: https://youtu.be/ZI_I7hOGbrU




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« Reply #455 on: December 06, 2018, 05:10:14 AM »



The Beach Boys - Santa's Beard / Little St.Nick, live in Greensburg, PA, December 4th: https://youtu.be/fCMWhqpTuwo

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« Reply #456 on: December 06, 2018, 01:31:10 PM »

Yeah, that's about how they sounded the night before.
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« Reply #457 on: December 08, 2018, 09:52:14 AM »

Never seen this happen before: Mike forgets the lyrics to surfin safari!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhxErnS24wk

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« Reply #458 on: December 08, 2018, 02:02:20 PM »

Never seen this happen before: Mike forgets the lyrics to surfin safari!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhxErnS24wk



He didn't quite "forget the words"...he jut messed up the form. He started into the chorus after the guitar solo, heard them shift to the IV chord on the verse, and then it sounds like Foskett takes over to finish the phrase as Mike hops back in with another go round of the chorus.
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