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« Reply #975 on: July 31, 2020, 06:10:53 PM »

All I have to say about this is...how fucking dare you endanger the safety of your fans in a situation like this. A man has the right to learn a living, but there are better and safer ways to do it.
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« Reply #976 on: July 31, 2020, 07:21:07 PM »


Mike Love's fake Beach Boys act is not worth dying for. And he's a complete asshole for doing a show. I hope he and the band get quarantined for 2 or more weeks.  Angry
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« Reply #977 on: July 31, 2020, 07:36:34 PM »

Bingo. I will usually be the first to defend Mike Love's touring act, but anyone that is performing during this pandemic that doesn't have to be doing it to survive, pay rent on a modest home, or feed their families has lost respect from me for quite a while.
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« Reply #978 on: July 31, 2020, 09:23:22 PM »

Those photos remind me of the amusement park gig where Spinal Tap played "Jazz Odyssey".
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« Reply #979 on: July 31, 2020, 09:33:14 PM »

All I have to say about this is...how fucking dare you endanger the safety of your fans in a situation like this. A man has the right to learn a living, but there are better and safer ways to do it.

Surely those fans have to take some responsibility for their own safety if they are taking the decision to attend?

I find the whole thing bizarre overall and wouldn't have risked attending, but as far as I know it is not clear yet how much outdoor events like this contribute to the spread of the virus. Someone may correct me if they know better, but I don't think there has been evidence that, say, the recent anti-racism protests contributed significantly to the spread of the virus, and those were attended by thousands.

(To be clear I am in no way suggesting that it is "okay" to attend a concert on the basis that people got together to protest against an appalling murder).
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« Reply #980 on: August 01, 2020, 12:09:21 AM »

Was Bruce's keyboard plugged in?
It's hard to tell from the photo.
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« Reply #981 on: August 01, 2020, 07:01:13 AM »

All I have to say about this is...how fucking dare you endanger the safety of your fans in a situation like this. A man has the right to learn a living, but there are better and safer ways to do it.

Yeah, I'm disgusted that Mike and Bruce grabbed random people from the street at gunpoint and forced them into the concert. Absolutely despicable.
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« Reply #982 on: August 01, 2020, 07:44:12 AM »

All I have to say about this is...how fucking dare you endanger the safety of your fans in a situation like this. A man has the right to learn a living, but there are better and safer ways to do it.

I agree completely.
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« Reply #983 on: August 01, 2020, 10:31:36 AM »

All I have to say about this is...how fucking dare you endanger the safety of your fans in a situation like this. A man has the right to learn a living, but there are better and safer ways to do it.

Surely those fans have to take some responsibility for their own safety if they are taking the decision to attend?

I find the whole thing bizarre overall and wouldn't have risked attending, but as far as I know it is not clear yet how much outdoor events like this contribute to the spread of the virus. Someone may correct me if they know better, but I don't think there has been evidence that, say, the recent anti-racism protests contributed significantly to the spread of the virus, and those were attended by thousands.

(To be clear I am in no way suggesting that it is "okay" to attend a concert on the basis that people got together to protest against an appalling murder).

The fact that it's outdoors helps quite a bit, but unless there was a mask ordinance in effect then it easily could've endangered attendees, everyone they encounter after the concert, etc.

The protests actually are proof of how much masks work. There hasn't been a spike in cases in cities where protests were occurring, but the spikes are all only in states that reopened early.
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« Reply #984 on: August 01, 2020, 10:37:08 AM »

Those photos remind me of the amusement park gig where Spinal Tap played "Jazz Odyssey".

If I've said it once I've said it a thousand times, put Beach Boys first and Puppet Show LAST.
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« Reply #985 on: August 01, 2020, 02:06:23 PM »

Was Bruce's keyboard plugged in?
It's hard to tell from the photo.
It is always plugged in, just not turned on, like Brian on his solo tours.
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« Reply #986 on: August 01, 2020, 02:09:01 PM »

A clip here.

https://youtu.be/P98vS884AQc

The few seconds either end showing the audience paint a pretty sad picture. Iíve seen more people at a sound check.


I can't imagine there's much money to be made on venues that are half-full...or less. I don't fault Mike for wanting to get out and play - i'm an entertainer, too, and i miss it more than anything - but it's not time now.
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« Reply #987 on: August 01, 2020, 05:53:47 PM »

Was Bruce's keyboard plugged in?
It's hard to tell from the photo.
It is always plugged in, just not turned on, like Brian on his solo tours.

If itís never turned on, then why is he always fiddling with the volume button?
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« Reply #988 on: Yesterday at 05:25:29 AM »

Bruce's keyboard is on. It may be quiet in the mix most of the time, or not be in the audiences mix, but Bruce will have his own monitor where he may hear it.

Even then, it's audible on Disney Girls and I'm sure people in the past have said it's audible on other songs, but I cba to trawl the forums for them.
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« Reply #989 on: Yesterday at 11:10:02 AM »

All I have to say about this is...how fucking dare you endanger the safety of your fans in a situation like this. A man has the right to learn a living, but there are better and safer ways to do it.

Surely those fans have to take some responsibility for their own safety if they are taking the decision to attend?

I find the whole thing bizarre overall and wouldn't have risked attending, but as far as I know it is not clear yet how much outdoor events like this contribute to the spread of the virus. Someone may correct me if they know better, but I don't think there has been evidence that, say, the recent anti-racism protests contributed significantly to the spread of the virus, and those were attended by thousands.

(To be clear I am in no way suggesting that it is "okay" to attend a concert on the basis that people got together to protest against an appalling murder).

According to a study done by the National Bureau of Economic Research the BLM gatherings across the country did not lead to a spike in any city (this research was shared by The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, Vox). Trump has claimed that the protests have led to spikes in certain cities but as far as I know he hasn't cited a source for that claim. The NBER study did say that according to cell-phone data the protests actually kept many people home which probably explains why the numbers seemed to balance out. However, a study done of 7,000 cases in China showed that only one of those cases was spread outdoors, and that was due to two friends having a long conversation in close proximity. According to a Japanese study you are 20x more likely to contract the virus indoors than outdoors - part of the reason for this is due to outdoor wind dispersal and that the constantly moving air prohibits the virus from building up and becoming more easily spreadable (as it does indoors). Couple that with a highly regulated concert (social distancing, required mask wearing) and that is probably why health officials gave their approval for Mike Love to go ahead with the Nebraska concert. Of course some people will not wear a mask (whether due to their "freedoms" or because they are eating or drinking), however, the rate of transmission at an outdoor venue, regardless of whether or not you are wearing a mask, is far, far lower than if you were in an indoor environment.

I'm not saying if it's right or wrong, but I also want to stress the importance of following the science/statistics/research instead of basing our denouncement of Mike Love and other bands on our own emotions/fears.
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« Reply #990 on: Yesterday at 12:59:32 PM »

Thanks for providing that detail Rab and agreed.
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« Reply #991 on: Yesterday at 03:32:16 PM »

Bruce's keyboard is on. It may be quiet in the mix most of the time, or not be in the audiences mix, but Bruce will have his own monitor where he may hear it.

Even then, it's audible on Disney Girls and I'm sure people in the past have said it's audible on other songs, but I cba to trawl the forums for them.

Supposedly heís also audible on Darlin, GV, and BTTYS since John Cowsill moved from keys to drums in late 2007.
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