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« Reply #25 on: February 17, 2018, 02:19:34 AM »

The Beach Boys will be playing the Just For Laughs Festival in Montreal this July. Although confirmed, the date has not been released yet. Seeing as they are playing the Ottawa area on the 21st, one could assume it will be that same weekend, either the 20'th or 21st. Outdoor stage, Free show.

At a comedy festival?  Seems like a strange venue to be playing. I do believe you, and I did google it and found a few articles on it.  But just seems a little odd.
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« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2018, 02:37:30 AM »

The Beach Boys will be playing the Just For Laughs Festival in Montreal this July. Although confirmed, the date has not been released yet. Seeing as they are playing the Ottawa area on the 21st, one could assume it will be that same weekend, either the 20'th or 21st. Outdoor stage, Free show.

At a comedy festival?  Seems like a strange venue to be playing. I do believe you, and I did google it and found a few articles on it.  But just seems a little odd.

Most curiously, Brian is down as a comedy act at Bensalem PA on May 8th!

http://petsoundsforum.com/thread/2294/new-bw-show?page=1&scrollTo=57133
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« Reply #27 on: February 17, 2018, 09:30:42 AM »

The Beach Boys will be playing the Just For Laughs Festival in Montreal this July. Although confirmed, the date has not been released yet. Seeing as they are playing the Ottawa area on the 21st, one could assume it will be that same weekend, either the 20'th or 21st. Outdoor stage, Free show.

At a comedy festival?  Seems like a strange venue to be playing. I do believe you, and I did google it and found a few articles on it.  But just seems a little odd.

Most curiously, Brian is down as a comedy act at Bensalem PA on May 8th!

http://petsoundsforum.com/thread/2294/new-bw-show?page=1&scrollTo=57133

Maybe thwy've heard Brian's lighter joke. 
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« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2018, 11:03:44 AM »

Historically on this board, there has always been little interest in Mike's tour dates (certainly for a tour that tours all year, every year).

One can obviously interpret that as something that is more to do with this board, or more to do with the quality and/or ubiquitous nature of Mike's never-ending touring. I'd say it's mostly the latter.

Also, if one has followed Mike's tour and scheduling habits over the years, they will have found that Mike never really "announces" a tour. He never unveils a tour schedule. It just sort of continually exists and is updated on an ongoing basis. It takes a few months into the year for summer tour dates to fill out.

All of this is a result of over-extending the brand and never taking a break from touring. It would actually be a big deal, worth "announcing" a big tour, if Mike wasn't doing 150 shows per year, every year. There's no buzz factor. Mike's tour runs off of brand name recognition, pure momentum, and fluff pieces a week or two in advance in many of the markets he hits.

Lets be honest.  On this forum, it has a LOT to do with the former. 

KDS - You never explained your answer above.

So how about it? Just another chance to take an unnecessary shot at this forum with nothing to back it up? Please explain.
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« Reply #29 on: February 18, 2018, 12:22:22 PM »

Historically on this board, there has always been little interest in Mike's tour dates (certainly for a tour that tours all year, every year).

One can obviously interpret that as something that is more to do with this board, or more to do with the quality and/or ubiquitous nature of Mike's never-ending touring. I'd say it's mostly the latter.

Also, if one has followed Mike's tour and scheduling habits over the years, they will have found that Mike never really "announces" a tour. He never unveils a tour schedule. It just sort of continually exists and is updated on an ongoing basis. It takes a few months into the year for summer tour dates to fill out.

All of this is a result of over-extending the brand and never taking a break from touring. It would actually be a big deal, worth "announcing" a big tour, if Mike wasn't doing 150 shows per year, every year. There's no buzz factor. Mike's tour runs off of brand name recognition, pure momentum, and fluff pieces a week or two in advance in many of the markets he hits.

Lets be honest.  On this forum, it has a LOT to do with the former. 

KDS - You never explained your answer above.

So how about it? Just another chance to take an unnecessary shot at this forum with nothing to back it up? Please explain.

You have to admit there's a heavy anti Mike bias.   
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« Reply #30 on: February 18, 2018, 12:33:47 PM »

The Beach Boys will be playing the Just For Laughs Festival in Montreal this July. Although confirmed, the date has not been released yet. Seeing as they are playing the Ottawa area on the 21st, one could assume it will be that same weekend, either the 20'th or 21st. Outdoor stage, Free show.

At a comedy festival?  Seems like a strange venue to be playing. I do believe you, and I did google it and found a few articles on it.  But just seems a little odd.

Just for Laughs is a pretty large scale event. And yes the focus in on comedy acts, but I think they have an outdoor 'compound' that probably has some food/drink/merchandise areas and an outdoor stage for music...though I'm not 100% on that.
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« Reply #31 on: February 18, 2018, 12:40:57 PM »

Historically on this board, there has always been little interest in Mike's tour dates (certainly for a tour that tours all year, every year).

One can obviously interpret that as something that is more to do with this board, or more to do with the quality and/or ubiquitous nature of Mike's never-ending touring. I'd say it's mostly the latter.

Also, if one has followed Mike's tour and scheduling habits over the years, they will have found that Mike never really "announces" a tour. He never unveils a tour schedule. It just sort of continually exists and is updated on an ongoing basis. It takes a few months into the year for summer tour dates to fill out.

All of this is a result of over-extending the brand and never taking a break from touring. It would actually be a big deal, worth "announcing" a big tour, if Mike wasn't doing 150 shows per year, every year. There's no buzz factor. Mike's tour runs off of brand name recognition, pure momentum, and fluff pieces a week or two in advance in many of the markets he hits.

Lets be honest.  On this forum, it has a LOT to do with the former.  

KDS - You never explained your answer above.

So how about it? Just another chance to take an unnecessary shot at this forum with nothing to back it up? Please explain.

You have to admit there's a heavy anti Mike bias.  

Compared to what or where else, KDS? I'm tired of these posts calling out or blaming this specific board and the people here for something that exists across the internet and has existed for decades, the overwhelming majority of it existing in reaction to what Mike actually does and says publicly.

Are there other forums where people are regularly posting reviews or commentary about Mike's live shows? There used to be one poster on the Britain board regularly posting gushing reviews of his live shows from the tents of the Cape Cod area to any random venue where he played, but even that seems to have stopped or at least slowed down.

And this "bias" you mention may just have as much to do with fans - yes, even longtime or diehard fans - reacting to what Mike actually does or says on a regular basis, rather than an inherent need to bash Mike or a bias you and others continue to cite. If fans can't react to what the guy does or says negatively without having it called a heavy bias on this or other outlets, you're looking for rose-colored glasses that might come free with a few buckets of whitewash and cheap paint rollers.
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« Reply #32 on: February 18, 2018, 12:57:14 PM »

Honestly KDS, I visit the PS forum from time to time, and lately the only time I see some passive aggressive swipe against this forum is when youíre the one doing it. Everyone else seems to be growing up and moving on, except you, which I find to be ironic because you post here as much as anyone else here. If youíve got a problem with specific people, then come out and say it. Do you have a problem with specific reasons why people dislike Mike? Then come out and say it. You say that some on ďother forumsĒ would be surprised that youíd pick Brian over Mike as your favorite beach boy? Who here would even care!?

Did you read Mikeís 2005 lawsuit?
Have you read any one of his interviews in the last 5 years regarding Brian?

You donít want to acknowledge these things actually happened? Totally fine! But donít pretend like people on this forum hate Mike just to hate Mike. Seriously, letís talk about that 2005 lawsuit and please change my mind as to why lying about Brian doesnít make Mike an absolute schmuck. Seriously, Iíd love for anyone to change my mind about that. But until then stop taking swipes at this forum because some here have certain views about Mike.
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« Reply #33 on: February 18, 2018, 01:15:22 PM »

I'd add a correction that KDS's posts are not the only swipes regularly being taken at this place or people here, but the others are mostly from disgruntled former members from this board who found a new home and an open mic, and may be upset that no one is listening and no minds are being changed. That's who they are, and what they do (and have done for years). It's all laid out. 
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« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2018, 03:09:45 PM »

Thereís a few others, but the oddest one is from Mujan/Super Metroid  who has stated that she felt upset that there was no response to the bullying she received , which is not true. Not only did I stick up for her, I banned the person doing the lions share of it... who now posts there at PSF , for what itís worth.

For the most part though, most of the people there are cool, no issues with steamboat, Becca, Will Harris, etc. itís the people like the ones GF mentioned that are an issue albeit increasingly smaller. I think most people on both boards have put the issues behind them.
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« Reply #35 on: February 18, 2018, 04:17:47 PM »

I donít get the anti Mike mention either. Iíve been posting here for years. When Brian made GIOMH (a dud) the posts were predominantly negative. Bruce adjusts his mic and we comment on that. Al flubs lines and that is highlighted. Big deal!

However we have for better or worse, the self appointed spokesman of the group (he chooses to pay the licensing fee for the name) plugging 150 shows a year and talking to literally hundreds of media organisations. Statistically because he says the most he is going to shoot himself in the foot more than other group members. Mike has been in the industry for almost 60 years and should know the ropes by now. Saying the same inflammatory statements time and time again then bitching about the criticism calls in to question his mindset and he admits he has issues.
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« Reply #36 on: February 18, 2018, 04:29:52 PM »

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« Reply #37 on: February 18, 2018, 05:16:40 PM »

The Beach Boys will be playing the Just For Laughs Festival in Montreal this July. Although confirmed, the date has not been released yet. Seeing as they are playing the Ottawa area on the 21st, one could assume it will be that same weekend, either the 20'th or 21st. Outdoor stage, Free show.

At a comedy festival?  Seems like a strange venue to be playing. I do believe you, and I did google it and found a few articles on it.  But just seems a little odd.

Gotta be careful here or Bruce will say something like they have time to play your funeral.
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« Reply #38 on: February 18, 2018, 05:20:52 PM »

The Beach Boys will be playing the Just For Laughs Festival in Montreal this July. Although confirmed, the date has not been released yet. Seeing as they are playing the Ottawa area on the 21st, one could assume it will be that same weekend, either the 20'th or 21st. Outdoor stage, Free show.

At a comedy festival?  Seems like a strange venue to be playing. I do believe you, and I did google it and found a few articles on it.  But just seems a little odd.

Gotta be careful here or Bruce will say something like they have time to play your funeral.
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« Reply #39 on: February 18, 2018, 06:43:24 PM »

The Beach Boys will be playing the Just For Laughs Festival in Montreal this July. Although confirmed, the date has not been released yet. Seeing as they are playing the Ottawa area on the 21st, one could assume it will be that same weekend, either the 20'th or 21st. Outdoor stage, Free show.

At a comedy festival?  Seems like a strange venue to be playing. I do believe you, and I did google it and found a few articles on it.  But just seems a little odd.

Gotta be careful here or Bruce will say something like they have time to play your funeral.
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« Reply #40 on: February 20, 2018, 10:45:30 AM »

The Beach Boys. July 18th - White Family Dealership 2018 Concert Series at Centennial Terrace, 5773, Centennial Rd., Sylvania.
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« Reply #41 on: February 20, 2018, 10:48:21 AM »

July 19th Detroit. Freedom Hill. The Beach Boys
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« Reply #42 on: February 20, 2018, 12:46:19 PM »

Thereís a few others, but the oddest one is from Mujan/Super Metroid  who has stated that she felt upset that there was no response to the bullying she received , which is not true. Not only did I stick up for her, I banned the person doing the lions share of it... who now posts there at PSF , for what itís worth.

For the most part though, most of the people there are cool, no issues with steamboat, Becca, Will Harris, etc. itís the people like the ones GF mentioned that are an issue albeit increasingly smaller. I think most people on both boards have put the issues behind them.

I agree with you Billy. And I gotta say, Mujan is especially weird because I'd say that Smiley Smile is a much more open, socially progressive board than PSF and people like The Real Beach Boy and mikesbeard and other homophobic/transphobic types on that board.
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« Reply #43 on: February 20, 2018, 01:02:38 PM »

Thereís a few others, but the oddest one is from Mujan/Super Metroid  who has stated that she felt upset that there was no response to the bullying she received , which is not true. Not only did I stick up for her, I banned the person doing the lions share of it... who now posts there at PSF , for what itís worth.

For the most part though, most of the people there are cool, no issues with steamboat, Becca, Will Harris, etc. itís the people like the ones GF mentioned that are an issue albeit increasingly smaller. I think most people on both boards have put the issues behind them.

I agree with you Billy. And I gotta say, Mujan is especially weird because I'd say that Smiley Smile is a much more open, socially progressive board than PSF and people like The Real Beach Boy and mikesbeard and other homophobic/transphobic types on that board.

It's a case of a few bad apples, not the whole board. It just bothers me that someone left for a specific reason that WAS being addressed, then calls us out for not addressing the issue. Well, that's not the only thing that bothers me about that, but that's a big part of it.
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« Reply #44 on: February 22, 2018, 11:18:39 AM »

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"...Most recently, in 2017, Love released a special double album through BMG entitled Unleash the Love. Featuring 13 previously unreleased songs and 14 re-recordings of Beach Boys classics, the album is a testament to and a continuation of Love's remarkable career. The Beach Boys continue to tour today with an impressive list of dates planned for 2018, following a record-setting year of 2017 performing over 175 shows and grossing over $23 million worldwide."
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« Reply #45 on: February 23, 2018, 12:09:49 AM »

As they get older at some point as they get older they wonít be able to perform any more. The name should be retired at that point. I donít want to see Jeff Foskettís Band of Bastards (tm) in 2027 pass themselves off as The Beach Boys with an entirely new backing band.
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« Reply #46 on: February 23, 2018, 05:53:15 AM »

I am fairly sure that an authorised BB will continue, in same way as the current New Christy Minstrels -- who.used to.be soloists or whatever. Better that than yet another "tribute" band. A  licence should give some standard to be reached
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« Reply #47 on: February 23, 2018, 07:48:11 AM »

I'd be shocked if no authorized band continued, as well.

The thing is, it could be amazing--a really great band. And sure, it would lack original members (by definition of the thought experiment). But ... does that really matter when you consider what these touring bands are right now? If you're personally set on watching those principals, then yes, even though every single one of them is a diminished version of his prior self (yes, even Al, who is still amazing for his age but not the little boy I once knew, oooh-ooh-ooh-ooh). If that's the case, I suggest that's more a nostalgia trip for you than a musical one anyway. Please don't take offense, I'm calling it like I see it.

But otherwise, those bands aren't out performing new music, with only rare exceptions: a song here and there, for the most part, at least since BW's Gershwin album tour. And even in the 00s, those BW tours were at least half oldies, with the first sets and encores sandwiching the new albums. (One of the three of those he performed in full was mostly old, too.) These are legacy bands performing old hits (or non-hits, sometimes). That's just a fact.

A band comprising the best of the non-principals across the current bands would be technically better than one with the principals. I'd without question pay to see such a band. I like all the drummers, so give me Cowsill, D'Amico, Hines, or Sucherman. Give me Totten, Sahanaja, Matt Jardine, Ike, Foskett, in a better universe an innocent Bennett, Gregory, Walusko, Mertens. You can fiddle with the specifics. The C50 band, though, plus Matt J and Ike, would be an amazing group to perform those amazing songs. I won't say there's nothing at all missing when the original guys aren't up there ... but there's no worse music being performed, and probably better music being performed in that situation. What's missing is emotional or nostalgic, not quality of music.
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« Reply #48 on: February 23, 2018, 08:45:03 AM »

I'm not in favor of continuing a band's name and licensing it if no original members are able to be on the stage or studio. When it's The Beach Boys, one of the bands in the upper echelon of popular music history, there is a responsibility to the legacy that has to be upheld. It's more than a name that can be sold to the highest bidder - or former sidemen who want it to be able to charge more for tickets based on the name. Other groups who do the name license thing generally are not near the status of The Beach Boys. I cannot imagine anyone suggesting The Beatles, Stones, Who, Zeppelin, or anyone in that caliber of artists would continue touring without original key members.

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« Reply #49 on: February 23, 2018, 08:54:54 AM »

Well there you go. That's the difference between us. I disagree entirely that there is any responsibility to any kind of legacy in any case: if a band/entity wants to do it, fine. If not, fine. (I'm not saying it's something I WANT as a general rule, necessarily. Just that they have a right to it.)

But even allowing for the legacy line of thinking, I'd say any claims to some integrity of the original unit is long-since sullied, with members coming and going, sidemen handling major lifting, assorted unpleasantries between factions, etc. That's one key difference between the Beach Boys and the Beatles, Led Zeppelin, and the like. Those bands broke up when they broke up. The Beach Boys were seemingly always breaking up and shifting things around. So to my thinking, they are more a brand than a band anyway and have been for decades. They more resemble the Basie band, etc.
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