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Question: Which band's output do you prefer in 1969?
The Beach Boys - 10 (26.3%)
The Beatles - 28 (73.7%)
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« on: February 02, 2018, 05:27:48 AM »

Hey guys, here's the next one.

One album (20/20) and one non-album singles (Break Away/Celebrate The News)

vs. One album (Abbey Road), two non-album singles (Get Back/Don't Let Me Down and The Ballad of John & Yoko/Old Brown Shoe, an alternate version of Across The Universe



Now, which band's output do you prefer in 1969? Make sure you go only by your own preference and consider only the released stuff listed above.

Look forward to your opinions & discussions  Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2018, 05:46:12 AM »

As much as I like 20/20 and tracks from that era.....it's going up against Abbey Road. 

So, this is an easy vote for The Beatles.   Like I've said before, the greatest album by the greatest band. 
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2018, 06:07:31 AM »

The Beach Boys are my favorite band ever but Abbey Road is a complete masterpiece.... Beatles
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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2018, 06:19:58 AM »

Love 20/20 a MOST underrated album..Glimpses of Smile plus some excellent new songs...and great work from Carl.  Breakaway and Celebrate the News are top of the line as well...a very, VERY good year from the 'Boys'.  But you can't beat Abbey Road..  A REALLY GREAT album vs. the Beatles best...certainly, for me, on equal footing with Revolver and Rubber Soul and better than Peppers and the rest...1969 belongs to the Beatles.  NEXT year WON'T. though.
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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2018, 06:20:50 AM »

1969 is  pretty much an easy vote for me. It's not even a contest.

Beatles.
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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2018, 07:15:00 AM »

Beatles. (To all the Beatles fans from other forums: I hope the overwhelming votes for the Beatles in this thread (and the previous one) doesnt make our forum look embarrassing).

20/20 is The Beach Boys’ most depressing era for me. It’s the nail in the coffin of Brian totally letting go of producing like he used to. It’s a hodgepodge of amazing and dreadful songs, none of them seem like they were recorded for any reason in particular, much less for an album. Dennis’ ‘Be With Me’ is one of my favorite songs, but it’s lumped between a quirky Bluebird cover and a song that turns into literal sonic pornography.

The Nearest Faraway Place is hotel lounge shmaltz, and I want to like it so badly because I love Beach Boys instrumentals...but the rolling piano riffs just make me cringe. Let’s see, we’ve got the incredible ‘Time To Get Alone’ followed up by a song literally co-written by America’s most infamous murderer. Then there are two random Smile tracks tacked onto the end. This album is a train wreck of great and bad songs, all combined to cement the point that The Beach Boys without Brian Wilson at the helm could become an extravagant looking ship with nowhere to sail.

Abbey Road is a friggin masterpiece. This is one of my favorite vinyls that I own, I’ll end up wearing it out! It is one of the clearest sounding albums I’ve heard - ‘Hear Comes The Sun’ is just one of their most beautiful songs.

Beatles all the way for 1969.
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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2018, 10:49:06 AM »

I really like Break Away and Celebrate the News.
Don't care much for Don't Let Me Down or Ballad of John and Yoko. However I love Get Back and Old Brown Shoe.

20/20 is up and down. Some great songs but can't get into All I Want To Do, Nearest Faraway Place or Never Learn Not to Love.

Abbey Road, with the exception of Maxwell's Silver Hammer, is an absolutely great album .

My vote is Beatles
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« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2018, 12:58:25 PM »

The Beatles.

Beach Boys Songs I Like from 1969 (soon to be edited because I haven't heard Break Away or Celebrate the News yet):
Do It Again
I Can Hear Music
Bluebirds Over the Mountain
All I Want to Do
Cottonfields
Our Prayer
Cabinessence (sometimes I like part of it)

Beatles Songs I Like from 1969:
Get Back
Don't Let Me Down
The Ballad of John and Yoko
Come Together
Something
Here Comes the Sun
You Never Give Me Your Money/Sun King/Mean Mr. Mustard
Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight/The End
Oh Darling
Octopus' Garden
Her Majesty (sure it's kinda stupid but it's only 23 seconds)
Polythene Pam/She Came In Through the Bathroom Wndow (sometimes)  
Because (sometimes)
I Want You (She's So Heavy) (very rarely)

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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2018, 02:28:44 PM »

I personally like 20/20, but it doesn't even come close to the absolute genius of Abbey Road.
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« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2018, 02:58:09 PM »

Bought and enjoyed both when release, but something funny happened along the way. I spun AR just a few times compared to very many for 20/20. Obviously, being a from the beginning BB die hard fan, there was some down and dirty bias going down but honestly, 20/20 was a fascinating type of peephole into some of the thing that didn't make it into albums or *leftovers* as some would say. Maybe the same could be said of AR. My favorites: ICHM, DIA, BWM, IWTS, TTGA, NLNTL, OP and of course, the amazing Cabinessence. I was totally intrigued by Dennis' take of NLNTL playing it over and over and still love it. It's hard to explain, but as great AR was and still is, I still found 20/20 (and Breakaway) to be more, say, interesting as if a part of the puzzle had been found, at least back then. Cottonfields, Nearest, and All I Want received the least listens on the album. What made it all come to life was seeing them live in 69 at Steel Pier playing Breakaway, and I Can Hear Music. God, they were great! Voted Beach Boys.
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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2018, 12:38:31 AM »

Bought and enjoyed both when release, but something funny happened along the way. I spun AR just a few times compared to very many for 20/20. Obviously, being a from the beginning BB die hard fan, there was some down and dirty bias going down but honestly, 20/20 was a fascinating type of peephole into some of the thing that didn't make it into albums or *leftovers* as some would say. Maybe the same could be said of AR. My favorites: ICHM, DIA, BWM, IWTS, TTGA, NLNTL, OP and of course, the amazing Cabinessence. I was totally intrigued by Dennis' take of NLNTL playing it over and over and still love it. It's hard to explain, but as great AR was and still is, I still found 20/20 (and Breakaway) to be more, say, interesting as if a part of the puzzle had been found, at least back then. Cottonfields, Nearest, and All I Want received the least listens on the album. What made it all come to life was seeing them live in 69 at Steel Pier playing Breakaway, and I Can Hear Music. God, they were great! Voted Beach Boys.
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Don't care much for Don't Let Me Down or Ballad of John and Yoko. However I love Get Back and Old Brown Shoe.
It's good you hate John's songs. It's tedious when people choose/ praise John as if Paul with George didn't write great songs.

Beach Boys - even with "Bluebirds"/ TNFP dullfest & real Beatles gem "Here Comes The Sun", the best BBs (f.ex. "Cabinessence") is better than best Beatles. You can disagree & bring objective points in Beatles' favor but, it still wouldn't make ANY sense. Standing by things I said.
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« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2018, 07:32:04 AM »

I agree with THAT.  Cabinessence pounds anything the Beatles released in '69.  So too does Time to Get Alone.  But THOSE victories are offset by Nearest Far Away Place and Bluebirds Over the Mountain which sounded 'dated' the second it was recorded.  After that...The Beatles win too many battles to come in 2nd.
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« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2018, 08:50:12 AM »

A tie always goes to the Beach Boys, but this is an easy vote for the Beatles. Abbey Road is currently my favorite Beatles album! And my favorite song is Because! 20/20 has lots of good songs, but feels disjointed. The way the white album was.
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« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2018, 08:54:33 AM »

A tie always goes to the Beach Boys, but this is an easy vote for the Beatles. Abbey Road is currently my favorite Beatles album! And my favorite song is Because! 20/20 has lots of good songs, but feels disjointed. The way the white album was.

The a cappella version of ‘Because’ from their Love album is one of the most beautiful songs I’ve heard.
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« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2018, 09:01:06 AM »

To those that somehow voted 1967/1968/1969 for the BBs, is there any year at all where the Beatles somehow, miraculously eke out a win over the Beach Boys?  Or were the BBs somehow the best band every single year, even when they had legendary failures that had (up to that point) never been seen at such a magnitude in the music industry? 
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« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2018, 09:16:27 AM »

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Yes. Why? Any sleep lost about it?
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« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2018, 09:32:46 AM »

A tie always goes to the Beach Boys, but this is an easy vote for the Beatles. Abbey Road is currently my favorite Beatles album! And my favorite song is Because! 20/20 has lots of good songs, but feels disjointed. The way the white album was.

The a cappella version of ‘Because’ from their Love album is one of the most beautiful songs I’ve heard.

That is the version that made me recognize it! Sounds like the Beach Boys Friends era! Or Til I Die esque
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« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2018, 09:50:58 AM »

A tie always goes to the Beach Boys, but this is an easy vote for the Beatles. Abbey Road is currently my favorite Beatles album! And my favorite song is Because! 20/20 has lots of good songs, but feels disjointed. The way the white album was.

The a cappella version of ‘Because’ from their Love album is one of the most beautiful songs I’ve heard.

That is the version that made me recognize it! Sounds like the Beach Boys Friends era! Or Til I Die esque

Yeah! I think its that reverb-like atmosphere in it. The Love version was the first one I heard, I heard it as a sample on Amazon and its what made me buy the entire CD. Both versions are just great.
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« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2018, 11:50:31 AM »

To those that somehow voted 1967/1968/1969 for the BBs, is there any year at all where the Beatles somehow, miraculously eke out a win over the Beach Boys?  Or were the BBs somehow the best band every single year, even when they had legendary failures that had (up to that point) never been seen at such a magnitude in the music industry? 

Although I didn't vote BBs for those years they were all close votes for me, particularly 1968. In that year the Beatles in my opinion either were getting tired of the routine, or just figuring that they could "phone it in" and people would still consider the dreck to be masterpieces.
This is a preference poll. If someone prefers more "pop" than "rock" then they might lean more towards the Beach Boys.
I really like the instrumentation the Beach Boys used on the late 1960s albums, the banjo, bass harmonica, and the piano that sounds sort of like the ones played in saloons in the Old West. Preferred that to all of the studio tricks the Beatles were employing. It was great when the Beatles went back more to their roots on Abbey Road.
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« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2018, 12:30:48 PM »

To those that somehow voted 1967/1968/1969 for the BBs, is there any year at all where the Beatles somehow, miraculously eke out a win over the Beach Boys?  Or were the BBs somehow the best band every single year, even when they had legendary failures that had (up to that point) never been seen at such a magnitude in the music industry? 

I don't know, maybe, just maybe, people on a Beach Boys forum actually prefer the Beach Boys music over the Beatles.

It's a shocking and difficult concept to get your head around I know, and goes totally against the accepted narrative of poular culture.

So either peole are lying, or they hear things differently to you.

Utterly stunning conceit.
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« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2018, 02:39:29 PM »

To those that somehow voted 1967/1968/1969 for the BBs, is there any year at all where the Beatles somehow, miraculously eke out a win over the Beach Boys?  Or were the BBs somehow the best band every single year, even when they had legendary failures that had (up to that point) never been seen at such a magnitude in the music industry?  

I don't know, maybe, just maybe, people on a Beach Boys forum actually prefer the Beach Boys music over the Beatles.

It's a shocking and difficult concept to get your head around I know, and goes totally against the accepted narrative of poular culture.

So either peole are lying, or they hear things differently to you.

Utterly stunning conceit.

Not very stunning, not very conceited.  Why even do this if there is zero objectivity?  
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« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2018, 03:01:22 PM »

It's got to be The Beatles for this year, just because Abbey Road is such a fantastic album. But funnily enough when I look at my top five favourite BB songs of 1969 I think I love them about equally with The Beatles best of 1969:

I Can Hear Music (the voice of Carl Wilson, 'nuff said!)
I Went To Sleep (it may be incredibly short but its wonderful)
Time To Get Alone (an incredible production)
Break Away (post-SMiLE classic from Brian)
Celebrate The News (a hidden gem if ever there was one)
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« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2018, 03:40:46 PM »

Not very stunning, not very conceited.  Why even do this if there is zero objectivity?  

I dunno. Maybe to have fun?

There are people from all over the world in this forum who have different experiences as to how they learned of the music from the Beach Boys and the Beatles. I enjoy hearing their respective perspectives.
And haven't the Beatles won most of these polls?
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« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2018, 04:45:52 PM »

Not very stunning, not very conceited.  Why even do this if there is zero objectivity?  

I dunno. Maybe to have fun?

There are people from all over the world in this forum who have different experiences as to how they learned of the music from the Beach Boys and the Beatles. I enjoy hearing their respective perspectives.
And haven't the Beatles won most of these polls?

Including this one, so far...
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« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2018, 05:02:24 PM »

Not very stunning, not very conceited.  Why even do this if there is zero objectivity?  

I dunno. Maybe to have fun?

There are people from all over the world in this forum who have different experiences as to how they learned of the music from the Beach Boys and the Beatles. I enjoy hearing their respective perspectives.
And haven't the Beatles won most of these polls?

Including this one, so far...

Honestly, no matter how many times its explained to me, I do not understand why these polls raise so much angst among some members. I like reading the discussions these threads generate and reading why people like certain music....whether or not those tastes correlate with my own. It’s not worth disrupting every thread just because one or two fans have a very high opinion of The Beach Boys.

As pixletwin and NOLA BB Fan pointed out, the Beatles are looked on rather highly by most everyone participating in these threads. No need to get worked up about the few who don’t feel this way.
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