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« Reply #500 on: April 06, 2018, 10:45:44 AM »

Caveat emptor: Brian's MB shows an Italian show on November 11th. it's actually AUGUST 11th.

Now been corrected to show August 11th.
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« Reply #501 on: April 07, 2018, 05:06:34 PM »

I got great seats for the 12/12 Hollywood, FL Christmas show.

The listing for that show has now been removed from Brian's website (though it is still on sale through Ticketmaster).

Should I be worried?
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« Reply #502 on: April 08, 2018, 07:16:51 PM »

That is unusual, but perhaps it is just a problem with Brian's site. You shouldn't be able to buy tickets still for a show that doesn't exist.
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« Reply #503 on: April 09, 2018, 06:11:45 AM »

I wouldn't worry too much; Brian's site has often been wonky as far as what dates are listed. As I've often told, going all the way back to 2004 at least they've omitted shows. They *never* listed the 2004 San Francisco "Smile" show as a tour date on the site, yet I most assuredly *did* go to the show (and I believe it sold out despite not even being listed on Brian's site!).

However, I'm sure behind the scenes Brian's camp has the booking of tour dates dialed in, and it's unlikely they would allow tickets to be sold to a show they had canceled. Selling tickets and then canceling a show is a big hassle and costs money for everybody involved.
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« Reply #504 on: April 09, 2018, 09:19:01 AM »

Added a new 12/5 Westbury, NY show to the top post schedule.
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« Reply #505 on: April 10, 2018, 11:32:52 AM »

Added two more dates; an August 24 UK "Pet Sounds" date, and also a July 15 Canadian date for the "Rock the Shores" Festival. It's unclear on that one whether it's a "Greatest Hits" or "Pet Sounds" show. The festival's website doesn't list any specific show type/theme, which makes me think it might be a "regular" show. This is the only show listed on Brian's site that doesn't show whether it's a "Hits" or "PS" show (it may well be that they don't know yet).
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« Reply #506 on: April 10, 2018, 11:57:40 AM »

 Ahhh!  Just an alert that the strike at Caesar's Windsor has affected some shows already...those through to at least April 30, 2018.   Angry   Brian's is scheduled for Friday May 4.  Will the situation be resolved by then?    Huh
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« Reply #507 on: April 11, 2018, 06:13:08 AM »

Added an 8/16 Berlin "Pet Sounds" show to the top post schedule. I'm guessing they may well fill in more of August with additional European dates.
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« Reply #508 on: April 13, 2018, 07:13:49 AM »

Sorry to see Doncaster Racecourse on Saturday August 18th is also one of the UK tour venues.

I'm afraid I'm less than enthusiastic about all these outdoor events. Not the best setting for Pet Sounds.
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« Reply #509 on: April 13, 2018, 07:16:11 AM »

I noticed Brian updated Facebook with the Doncaster show, so that has been added to the top post.
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« Reply #510 on: April 13, 2018, 07:24:47 AM »

Sorry to see Doncaster Racecourse on Saturday August 18th is also one of the UK tour venues.

I'm afraid I'm less than enthusiastic about all these outdoor events. Not the best setting for Pet Sounds.

I at first assumed this was just a case of using a sporting venue for a concert. But it does appear as though this will literally be a "Post-Horse Race" concert:

https://www.doncaster-racecourse.co.uk/whats-on/don-2018-sat-18th-august-music-live

I guess this is a 2018 British version of the BBs playing gigs after baseball games in the 80s.

I honestly have no idea what type of "typical" clientele a horse race in Doncaster, UK attracts, so it's hard to say how rowdy an audience might be or how many non-fans might be in attendance.
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« Reply #511 on: April 13, 2018, 07:40:59 AM »

I'm not really a race-goer but I would guess they'll get some fans (perhaps more that could be described as 'casual' rather than 'diehard') and quite a few who've heard some of the songs and are just rounding off a day's entertainment.

I'm sorry to write that I feel it devalues the music. Pet Sounds is suited to prestigious venues, like real theatres and concert halls.
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« Reply #512 on: April 13, 2018, 07:53:14 AM »

Sorry to see Doncaster Racecourse on Saturday August 18th is also one of the UK tour venues.

I'm afraid I'm less than enthusiastic about all these outdoor events. Not the best setting for Pet Sounds.

I at first assumed this was just a case of using a sporting venue for a concert. But it does appear as though this will literally be a "Post-Horse Race" concert:

https://www.doncaster-racecourse.co.uk/whats-on/don-2018-sat-18th-august-music-live

I guess this is a 2018 British version of the BBs playing gigs after baseball games in the 80s.

I honestly have no idea what type of "typical" clientele a horse race in Doncaster, UK attracts, so it's hard to say how rowdy an audience might be or how many non-fans might be in attendance.


Hopefully better than the clientele that races across Spot a Pots in the infield at Baltimore's Preakness.  
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« Reply #513 on: April 13, 2018, 08:23:30 AM »

I presume that Doncaster show won't be a Pet Sounds performance? more greatest hits?

Listed as Greatest Hits on ticket page - https://www.eventim.co.uk/event/10737230/?affiliate=VM1
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« Reply #514 on: April 13, 2018, 08:48:26 AM »

I presume that Doncaster show won't be a Pet Sounds performance? more greatest hits?

Listed as Greatest Hits on ticket page - https://www.eventim.co.uk/event/10737230/?affiliate=VM1

I think you're right. The ad/poster for the show on Brian's Facebook was in the green/yellow color/font of PS, so my brain assumed. The "Greatest Hits" format makes much more sense. I've updated the top post.
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« Reply #515 on: April 13, 2018, 11:28:47 AM »

I've seen M&B at racecourses a few times (York and Epsom) and I'd say it's definitely more their thing than Brian's (a higher chance of Hawaiian shirts and beach balls).

Regardless this is the closest to home I've seen a BBs-related concert (due to the cancelled arena tour of 2015) so I'll be there. I'm hoping it won't be a PS show, as mentioned it's not the best environment for it and after seeing the band do PS in 2016 and 2017 I'm pretty content and hope to hear something different.
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« Reply #516 on: April 13, 2018, 02:07:08 PM »

I've seen M&B at racecourses a few times (York and Epsom) and I'd say it's definitely more their thing than Brian's (a higher chance of Hawaiian shirts and beach balls).

Regardless this is the closest to home I've seen a BBs-related concert (due to the cancelled arena tour of 2015) so I'll be there. I'm hoping it won't be a PS show, as mentioned it's not the best environment for it and after seeing the band do PS in 2016 and 2017 I'm pretty content and hope to hear something different.

It's worth noting, though, that the "Greatest Hits" shows might bend up being shorter than the full PS shows. I'm not so sure if they're going to backfill the setlist with 13 songs to fully replace the PS songs. They'll probably do the classic three tracks from PS, but maybe not add another ten to replace the rest.

I think, Brian's lack of enthusiasm on recent PS tours notwithstanding, they're striking a decent balance in booking shows this year. Clearly, PS-themed shows still get bookings and demand, but they're also mixing it in with some other themed setlists.

I'm curious if they just offer both shows to promoters at two different costs.
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« Reply #517 on: April 13, 2018, 07:15:48 PM »

I doubt the price varies. The cost of show is identical. Honestly, I think anything labeled "Greatest Hits" is a greater draw with the general public.
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« Reply #518 on: April 14, 2018, 12:15:19 PM »

New Greatest Hits show date, with Al and Blondie:
Aug. 7 -- Tel Aviv, Israel -- Menora Mivtachim Arena

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Culture/Summer-is-here-Brian-is-back-549813
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« Reply #519 on: April 15, 2018, 04:53:39 PM »

I doubt the price varies. The cost of show is identical. Honestly, I think anything labeled "Greatest Hits" is a greater draw with the general public.
This is a good point. I would be pretty surprised if Brian was touring an M&B style hits show. I would have to guess that a Greatest Hits show is more like the setlists we've seen from Brian outside of the album-centric tours.
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« Reply #520 on: April 16, 2018, 08:29:23 AM »

I doubt the price varies. The cost of show is identical. Honestly, I think anything labeled "Greatest Hits" is a greater draw with the general public.
This is a good point. I would be pretty surprised if Brian was touring an M&B style hits show. I would have to guess that a Greatest Hits show is more like the setlists we've seen from Brian outside of the album-centric tours.

"Greatest Hits Live" I'm sure is a moniker that's meant solely to mean "not a Pet Sounds show" and is being used only because PS has been the norm for two years now.

But I think precise guarantees from promoters from show to show can vary, and it's possible PS shows cost more because it's more of a prestige event and tickets to the type of venues that typically book a PS show skew more expensive. All generalities to be sure.
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« Reply #521 on: April 17, 2018, 06:00:31 AM »

Westbury!! That's right in my backyard. Wish I knew before getting tickets for Staten Island. Might have to double dip here... or triple dip if I decide to go to Jersey also... we'll see.
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« Reply #522 on: April 17, 2018, 06:21:32 AM »

Another reason the "Greatest Hits Live" dates might be a bit cheaper for promoters is that it appears only Al *may* be appearing with Brian. Blondie isn't listed on the little poster/advertisement for the "Hits" shows. I'm guessing it's quite possible Blondie might still appear at some if not most or all of those shows, especially where "Hits" shows are mixed in during a string of PS shows. But if there are some non-Blondie shows, those might be a bit cheaper.
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« Reply #523 on: April 17, 2018, 12:43:48 PM »

I really doubt Blondie is putting a dent in the tour budget. The man plays 3-5 songs depending on how often he staggers out half-stoned with a tambourine in his hand.
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« Reply #524 on: April 17, 2018, 01:37:02 PM »

I really doubt Blondie is putting a dent in the tour budget. The man plays 3-5 songs depending on how often he staggers out half-stoned with a tambourine in his hand.

They pay Blondie something to go out on tour (probably more than anyone but Al), and a second "Special Guest" adds something to the selling value of the show. So again, not a big deal at all and hardly even worth a discussion given the paucity of inside info we have, but I'm guessing a "Pet Sounds Anniversary" show with two ex-Beach Boys as "Special Guests" costs a little more (both on the artist side in terms of overheard as well as what price the show commands) than a "Greatest Hits Live" show (read: "Regular" show) with, in some cases, only one ex-Beach Boy as "Special Guest."

And especially in terms of overhead costs, it costs them the same whether Blondie sings 3 songs or 30. It costs X amount in travel and lodging costs for each person. Which is the reason I've been surprised they haven't utilized Blondie at least a little bit more considering they're going to the trouble of paying him and bringing him out there.

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