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« Reply #25 on: October 09, 2017, 09:14:26 PM »

I don't hate Mike Love.  I think he's a great vocalist.  I just think he's kind of a dick and hilariously out of touch.

That's how I feel. I'll go one better and say he is incredibly talented and I get frustrated that he not only wastes his talent, he brings the rest of the brand down with him, and he carries an unnecessary grudge against Brian. Also have an issue when a certain employee of his takes swipes at members here just because he doesn't agree with their opinions. 
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« Reply #26 on: October 10, 2017, 02:22:30 AM »

Mike Love used to be a very good lyricist up until and including the Wild Honey album, which came out 50 years ago. He did some good work afterwards (Meant for You, Do It Again, All I Wanna Do, Big Sur, even It's OK and maybe Getcha Back) but that's only one song every couple of years and creatively he hasn't done anything noteworthy since rewriting John Phillips' song Kokomo, the hit recording of which is going to be 30 years old soon... an admittedly nice production that still has more in common with other novelty songs like Agadoo than with the classic BB material that he (and a number of other "chief lyricists") penned together with his genius cousin.

I agree that the guy is probably his own worst enemy. If he'd be humble instead of bragging, people would like him a lot more, myself included.
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« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2017, 02:28:05 AM »

I am so sick of this topic...

...but I'll say this. He's awesome to the fans who want to meet him. I've met him twice and he gave me a lot of his time and was happy to sign my items and take pictures with me.

I'm at a point where I no longer give a sh*t about the relationship these guys have with each other.

I couldn't agree more.
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« Reply #28 on: October 10, 2017, 03:48:03 AM »

Me too - original poster to blame. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #29 on: October 10, 2017, 05:04:41 AM »

Iain Lee also threatened the board.... Roll Eyes

I forgot about that! LOL

That whole article was a sham, I wouldn’t be surprised if he had the whole thing outlined in his head before he even asked the question on this forum. He cherry picked some rather stupid reasons for people disliking Mike, then did a poor job of trying to convince people that those were the main reasons why Mike is disliked.
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« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2017, 05:42:48 AM »

Agreed, then had his account deleted once his “mission” was done.... Roll Eyes
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« Reply #31 on: October 10, 2017, 09:05:30 AM »

Yet another attempt to try fucking with this community that failed miserably. Unless taking to a stage in front of a live audience and joking about wanting to murder people on this board is somehow funny. Again, in the name of boosting or defending Mike and his legacy?

What draws these people and these odd behaviors into defending Mike Love and his legacy? Hey kids...let's launch vendettas, target and trash people, slander/lie/gossip, label people 'toxic', make sh*t up at random, threaten lawsuits and background checks...in the name of defending Mike. Then instead of owning the actions, say some key catch-phrases like "it's all about the music", "we love ALL the band members", and disappear. It's mind-boggling.

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« Reply #32 on: October 10, 2017, 10:09:15 AM »

"We love all the members" ranks down there with "all lives matter ". I mean, hell, I actually feel that way (on both things ) but certain people use that statement almost like an attack to diminish whomever is not their "guy"
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« Reply #33 on: October 10, 2017, 01:04:23 PM »

Wow.. Shocked 2 pages because i used the word hate in the topic. Were is this board going to Huh were is the time people respected each other ? why the harsh reply's?
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« Reply #34 on: October 10, 2017, 01:13:19 PM »

Wow.. Shocked 2 pages because i used the word hate in the topic. Were is this board going to Huh were is the time people respected each other ? why the harsh reply's?

I mean this as kindly and politely as possible, but it appears you've been a member of this board for almost 12 years; since its inception. If you *still* can't understand why Mike is widely criticized, I would suggest reading the myriad of threads on the topic going back 12 years.

I would also suggest that accusing other fans of "hate" and then incredulously asking "where is the time people respected each other?" is pretty unfair.
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« Reply #35 on: October 10, 2017, 01:48:43 PM »

Well it seems i cant write anything without being jumped at.
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« Reply #36 on: October 10, 2017, 02:11:16 PM »

Well it seems i cant write anything without being jumped at.

What sort of responses were you expecting when you decided to start this thread?

I'm genuinely interested to know.
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« Reply #37 on: October 10, 2017, 02:11:45 PM »

Well it seems i cant write anything without being jumped at.

Sorry, but I've got to  LOL. I don't think you really have a clue as to what "jumped at" really means, but if you have any questions about it, ask me.  Wink
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« Reply #38 on: October 10, 2017, 02:46:28 PM »

Well it seems i cant write anything without being jumped at.

We've all been there.  I know I have!
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« Reply #39 on: October 10, 2017, 06:35:28 PM »

Wow.. Shocked 2 pages because i used the word hate in the topic. Were is this board going to Huh were is the time people respected each other ? why the harsh reply's?

Can you please direct me to the harsh replies? If anything I and others resonded with, what I thought were, rather informative replies. Some got rather annoyed at your use of the word “hate” and, in your defense, you didn’t mention that the hatred was emanating from this site, just that he is hated in general - which glancing at any number of YouTube video comments regarding the BBs you would be entirely correct.

I guess I understand why you’d be annoyed at that, but at the same time many people responded cordially to your original post - perhaps ignore the one or two posts that made you mad, and instead interact with those who responded politely to your question. Message boards are full of people you’ll disagree with, not saying you need thick skin to be here, but ignoring people you don’t agree with is sometimes necessary.
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« Reply #40 on: October 10, 2017, 07:20:16 PM »

Yet another attempt to try fucking with this community that failed miserably. Unless taking to a stage in front of a live audience and joking about wanting to murder people on this board is somehow funny. Again, in the name of boosting or defending Mike and his legacy?

What draws these people and these odd behaviors into defending Mike Love and his legacy? Hey kids...let's launch vendettas, target and trash people, slander/lie/gossip, label people 'toxic', make sh*t up at random, threaten lawsuits and background checks...in the name of defending Mike. Then instead of owning the actions, say some key catch-phrases like "it's all about the music", "we love ALL the band members", and disappear. It's mind-boggling.

My favorite part is that all of the above is documented fact, yetttttt this place is so toxic because OSD calls ML “myke luhv“ -oh the humanity!

Speaking of “journalists” who don’t do their jobs, anyone remember Casey Hardmeyer’s bullshit NPP review for PopMatters? I don’t think I’ve ever seen so much disinformation in one review before....I mean, hate the album all you want, but at least do 10 minutes of research to back your claims before you publish...journalism 101 stuff.
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« Reply #41 on: October 10, 2017, 07:33:40 PM »

Yet another attempt to try fucking with this community that failed miserably. Unless taking to a stage in front of a live audience and joking about wanting to murder people on this board is somehow funny. Again, in the name of boosting or defending Mike and his legacy?

What draws these people and these odd behaviors into defending Mike Love and his legacy? Hey kids...let's launch vendettas, target and trash people, slander/lie/gossip, label people 'toxic', make sh*t up at random, threaten lawsuits and background checks...in the name of defending Mike. Then instead of owning the actions, say some key catch-phrases like "it's all about the music", "we love ALL the band members", and disappear. It's mind-boggling.

My favorite part is that all of the above is documented fact, yetttttt this place is so toxic because OSD calls ML “myke luhv“ -oh the humanity!

Speaking of “journalists” who don’t do their jobs, anyone remember Casey Hardmeyer’s bullshit NPP review for PopMatters? I don’t think I’ve ever seen so much disinformation in one review before....I mean, hate the album all you want, but at least do 10 minutes of research to back your claims before you publish...journalism 101 stuff.

Exactly. And 100% documented fact, yes. Unfortunately for too many gullible fans and those with agendas or axes to grind, they don't let documented facts get in the way of an agenda. Even more unfortunate is when people believe them.

So yeah, that journalist...The time when he came on the board is still documented too here on this site. It was a complete farce. If someone can find it, feel free to post the direct link so newcomers can see what kind of bullshit was being peddled here. I'll reserve comment beyond that. But definitely worth a revisit as a reminder.

And even more shameful is that some of that complete bullshit got picked up and reprinted by Wikipedia, so whoever reads that gets that impression of the album. What a crock.
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« Reply #42 on: October 10, 2017, 07:39:32 PM »

No prick pressure on SS anymore! Grin
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« Reply #43 on: October 10, 2017, 07:49:48 PM »

Bizarro world...where facts don't mean jack sh*t, and those offering or reminding of the facts get attacked as haters, labeled toxic, and are blamed for the negativity against Mike Love that is as widespread across the internet as cute kitten memes.

Now there's a special place for all that.  Smiley
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« Reply #44 on: October 10, 2017, 08:01:40 PM »

Wow.. Shocked 2 pages because i used the word hate in the topic. Were is this board going to Huh were is the time people respected each other ? why the harsh reply's?

Where are the harsh replies? Point them out, quote them and maybe the people being too harsh in your opinion can follow up and address your concerns. Just point us to the harsh replies first.

The time when people respected each other? As a 12 year member, are you seriously asking that or just trying to stir something up? Show me the respect in bullying other members off the board and using the PM system like a personal hit squad for slander and bullying and worse, and perhaps reconsider that "respect" notion which is only now returning after the people causing the issues went elsewhere.
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Pugnacious arrogance is outta here for good.  police
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Pugnacious arrogance is outta here for good.  police

I heard echoes of the late, great Harry Kalas making that call in the booth...  Smiley

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« Reply #47 on: October 10, 2017, 08:39:12 PM »

Yet another attempt to try fucking with this community that failed miserably. Unless taking to a stage in front of a live audience and joking about wanting to murder people on this board is somehow funny. Again, in the name of boosting or defending Mike and his legacy?

What draws these people and these odd behaviors into defending Mike Love and his legacy? Hey kids...let's launch vendettas, target and trash people, slander/lie/gossip, label people 'toxic', make sh*t up at random, threaten lawsuits and background checks...in the name of defending Mike. Then instead of owning the actions, say some key catch-phrases like "it's all about the music", "we love ALL the band members", and disappear. It's mind-boggling.

My favorite part is that all of the above is documented fact, yetttttt this place is so toxic because OSD calls ML “myke luhv“ -oh the humanity!

Speaking of “journalists” who don’t do their jobs, anyone remember Casey Hardmeyer’s bullshit NPP review for PopMatters? I don’t think I’ve ever seen so much disinformation in one review before....I mean, hate the album all you want, but at least do 10 minutes of research to back your claims before you publish...journalism 101 stuff.

Exactly. And 100% documented fact, yes. Unfortunately for too many gullible fans and those with agendas or axes to grind, they don't let documented facts get in the way of an agenda. Even more unfortunate is when people believe them.

So yeah, that journalist...The time when he came on the board is still documented too here on this site. It was a complete farce. If someone can find it, feel free to post the direct link so newcomers can see what kind of bullshit was being peddled here. I'll reserve comment beyond that. But definitely worth a revisit as a reminder.

And even more shameful is that some of that complete bullshit got picked up and reprinted by Wikipedia, so whoever reads that gets that impression of the album. What a crock.

Agreed 100%

Here is Wirestone’s brilliant reply to Hardmeyer’s “review” thing: http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,20283.msg510064.html#msg510064

Here is my spat with Hardmeyer: http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,21372.msg541144.html#msg541144

Edit: I just reread through that whole argument with him...totally forgot that Billy banned his ass after Hardmeyer flaunted his “credentials” of writing for a newspaper LOL seriously one of the stupidest conversations I’ve had on this board, and that’s saying a lot. I wish the best for Hardmeyer, and for the sake of whoever reads his work these days I hope he has gained a bit more journalistic integrity in years since.
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« Reply #48 on: October 10, 2017, 08:50:10 PM »

Yet another attempt to try fucking with this community that failed miserably. Unless taking to a stage in front of a live audience and joking about wanting to murder people on this board is somehow funny. Again, in the name of boosting or defending Mike and his legacy?

What draws these people and these odd behaviors into defending Mike Love and his legacy? Hey kids...let's launch vendettas, target and trash people, slander/lie/gossip, label people 'toxic', make sh*t up at random, threaten lawsuits and background checks...in the name of defending Mike. Then instead of owning the actions, say some key catch-phrases like "it's all about the music", "we love ALL the band members", and disappear. It's mind-boggling.

My favorite part is that all of the above is documented fact, yetttttt this place is so toxic because OSD calls ML “myke luhv“ -oh the humanity!

Speaking of “journalists” who don’t do their jobs, anyone remember Casey Hardmeyer’s bullshit NPP review for PopMatters? I don’t think I’ve ever seen so much disinformation in one review before....I mean, hate the album all you want, but at least do 10 minutes of research to back your claims before you publish...journalism 101 stuff.

Exactly. And 100% documented fact, yes. Unfortunately for too many gullible fans and those with agendas or axes to grind, they don't let documented facts get in the way of an agenda. Even more unfortunate is when people believe them.

So yeah, that journalist...The time when he came on the board is still documented too here on this site. It was a complete farce. If someone can find it, feel free to post the direct link so newcomers can see what kind of bullshit was being peddled here. I'll reserve comment beyond that. But definitely worth a revisit as a reminder.

And even more shameful is that some of that complete bullshit got picked up and reprinted by Wikipedia, so whoever reads that gets that impression of the album. What a crock.

Agreed 100%

Here is Wirestone’s brilliant reply to Hardmeyer’s “review” thing: http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,20283.msg510064.html#msg510064

Here is my spat with Hardmeyer: http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,21372.msg541144.html#msg541144

Thanks for the refresher! It was worse than I remembered.

For the people bemoaning the lack of respect on this board as of 10/10/2017...see those links, read the back-and-forth, and note especially the review and the actions of the reviewer. Facts don't matter as long as you get an agenda-fueled click-bait article to upload out of the deal. Particularly respectful is how Brian Wilson is compared to wheeling Grandpa out for Thanksgiving dinner, and the reviewer himself offering opinions on those who gave the album 5 stars as if they're idiots...among other gems of wisdom and insight.

That's the respect that is no longer here? If so, I'm glad that funky notion of "respect" followed those now-departed people on full display in those discussions out the fucking door to more respectful communities of like-minded fans...
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« Reply #49 on: October 10, 2017, 08:52:31 PM »

Someone should consider starting a thread titled "Many Negative Reviews Of Unleash The Love" on this and other forums and see how well that one goes over.

The good ol' days indeed. Nothin' but respect on display.  Grin
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