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Author Topic: The Beach Boys Wild Honey(Sunshine Tomorrow) 2CD Set?  (Read 48244 times)
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« Reply #600 on: July 23, 2017, 11:46:19 PM »

I did notice that...in fact my daughter asked if it was originally part of H&V .
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« Reply #601 on: July 23, 2017, 11:47:07 PM »

It's a recurring motif in Smile, it also shows up in the tag to Vega-Tables.
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« Reply #602 on: July 23, 2017, 11:48:33 PM »

During the instrumental version of "Wonderful", when it gets to the freak-out/party section (from 1:13 to 1:50), has anyone else noticed that part of "Heroes and Villains" fits perfectly over it?

https://youtu.be/biUIN_x8jT4?t=1m11s

I thought I was the only person to ever notice that lol

One track I've been listening to a lot is the alternate "Whispering Winds" section of Wind Chimes. Such a breathtakingly beautiful piece by the group!
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« Reply #603 on: July 24, 2017, 05:06:32 AM »

I (all of us) noticed the distortion in 'Country Air' -

is it deliberate?

Was it meant to imitate the sound of bees?

Am I bonkers?
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« Reply #604 on: July 26, 2017, 03:40:34 PM »

Haven't bought the CD but listened to the outtakes on Spotify. Dammit, them Boys blew me away once again! Such revelatory, beautiful pieces... Heartwarming to hear Brian so into it. Of course, the proof has been in the pudding all these years, but hearing him guide the guys and sounding so enthused really makes me feel good, even though I've known for ages that the "he went to bed after Smile" was just a myth. Great stuff. Can't wait to get my own copy.

My only gripe is we don't have full Hawaii concerts... Oh well. A download-only live album would satisfy my soul. Please?
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« Reply #605 on: July 26, 2017, 06:07:36 PM »

Haven't bought the CD but listened to the outtakes on Spotify. Dammit, them Boys blew me away once again! Such revelatory, beautiful pieces... Heartwarming to hear Brian so into it. Of course, the proof has been in the pudding all these years, but hearing him guide the guys and sounding so enthused really makes me feel good, even though I've known for ages that the "he went to bed after Smile" was just a myth. Great stuff. Can't wait to get my own copy.

My only gripe is we don't have full Hawaii concerts... Oh well. A download-only live album would satisfy my soul. Please?

This set makes me so excited for a possible Friends set like this...of course I donít think anything of the sort is coming out, but Iíd love for it to. To hear Brian firing on all cylinders, having fun, exploring all those great chords.

Hey Billy or Guitarfool, any chance this set will be available to review in the official album review section? Iíve been wanting to share my thoughts on this, but wanted to rate it in a proper review thread.
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« Reply #606 on: July 26, 2017, 06:11:48 PM »

Does anyone know why Little Red Book wasnt released on this set! I think it would have made a great addition!


Fingures crossed for a friends album just as good as Sunshine Tomorrow!!!
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« Reply #607 on: July 26, 2017, 06:51:09 PM »

Haven't bought the CD but listened to the outtakes on Spotify. Dammit, them Boys blew me away once again! Such revelatory, beautiful pieces... Heartwarming to hear Brian so into it. Of course, the proof has been in the pudding all these years, but hearing him guide the guys and sounding so enthused really makes me feel good, even though I've known for ages that the "he went to bed after Smile" was just a myth. Great stuff. Can't wait to get my own copy.

My only gripe is we don't have full Hawaii concerts... Oh well. A download-only live album would satisfy my soul. Please?

This set makes me so excited for a possible Friends set like this...of course I donít think anything of the sort is coming out, but Iíd love for it to. To hear Brian firing on all cylinders, having fun, exploring all those great chords.

Hey Billy or Guitarfool, any chance this set will be available to review in the official album review section? Iíve been wanting to share my thoughts on this, but wanted to rate it in a proper review thread.

Official review thread started here: http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,25324.0.html
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« Reply #608 on: July 26, 2017, 06:57:46 PM »

Haven't bought the CD but listened to the outtakes on Spotify. Dammit, them Boys blew me away once again! Such revelatory, beautiful pieces... Heartwarming to hear Brian so into it. Of course, the proof has been in the pudding all these years, but hearing him guide the guys and sounding so enthused really makes me feel good, even though I've known for ages that the "he went to bed after Smile" was just a myth. Great stuff. Can't wait to get my own copy.

Mythology is indeed what it was until this set shattered the myth, and that includes the notion of Carl producing more of this material in '67 than Brian.

I asked on another thread, but am curious since you're a fan who heard that proof in the pudding, if you remember, where did all the mythology start and why was it repeated for so long? I'm thinking you and I are not the only ones who heard the proof in the pudding all along and this set just backed it up even more with the studio chatter. I'm just curious if other fans remember how and why all that nonsense got started in the first place.
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« Reply #609 on: July 26, 2017, 08:21:59 PM »

Haven't bought the CD but listened to the outtakes on Spotify. Dammit, them Boys blew me away once again! Such revelatory, beautiful pieces... Heartwarming to hear Brian so into it. Of course, the proof has been in the pudding all these years, but hearing him guide the guys and sounding so enthused really makes me feel good, even though I've known for ages that the "he went to bed after Smile" was just a myth. Great stuff. Can't wait to get my own copy.

My only gripe is we don't have full Hawaii concerts... Oh well. A download-only live album would satisfy my soul. Please?

This set makes me so excited for a possible Friends set like this...of course I donít think anything of the sort is coming out, but Iíd love for it to. To hear Brian firing on all cylinders, having fun, exploring all those great chords.

Hey Billy or Guitarfool, any chance this set will be available to review in the official album review section? Iíve been wanting to share my thoughts on this, but wanted to rate it in a proper review thread.

Official review thread started here: http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,25324.0.html

Thanks so much!
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« Reply #610 on: July 27, 2017, 12:23:12 AM »

Does anyone know why Little Red Book wasnt released on this set! I think it would have made a great addition!


Fingures crossed for a friends album just as good as Sunshine Tomorrow!!!

That was (apparently) recorded during the sessions for Friends. It's debated that it was either recorded in February of 1967 or early 1968, but the tapes for the track were found packaged together with other Friends-era songs.
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« Reply #611 on: July 27, 2017, 02:05:29 AM »

During the instrumental version of "Wonderful", when it gets to the freak-out/party section (from 1:13 to 1:50), has anyone else noticed that part of "Heroes and Villains" fits perfectly over it?

https://youtu.be/biUIN_x8jT4?t=1m11s

I thought I was the only person to ever notice that lol


Suprised people are even mentioning it. It's obviously the same piece of music.
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« Reply #612 on: July 27, 2017, 02:19:07 AM »

I (all of us) noticed the distortion in 'Country Air' -

is it deliberate?

Was it meant to imitate the sound of bees?

Am I bonkers?

Hi Don

It is a Chamberlin, which is what the Mellotron was based on. A very early sample player and the distortion is either inherent in the instrument itself, or occured from the way they recorded it. Perhaps, as you say, it was intentional.

 Not sure what patch they used, some people think flute.
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« Reply #613 on: July 28, 2017, 12:45:11 AM »

I (all of us) noticed the distortion in 'Country Air' -

is it deliberate?

Was it meant to imitate the sound of bees?

Am I bonkers?

Hi Don

It is a Chamberlin, which is what the Mellotron was based on. A very early sample player and the distortion is either inherent in the instrument itself, or occured from the way they recorded it. Perhaps, as you say, it was intentional.

 Not sure what patch they used, some people think flute.

Many thanks! I love this kind of detail, and now I see that it is, intended or not, authentic (not an artefact).
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« Reply #614 on: July 28, 2017, 04:45:26 AM »

Too bad it was digitally removed from the new stereo mix. The backing vocals now have this weird stuttering artifact because of it.

And if LTWB wasn't a digital extraction mix, I can't understand why there's an arbitrary noise gate on the backing vocal stem.
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« Reply #615 on: August 01, 2017, 01:23:08 AM »

Was Brian planning to include Surf's Up on Wild Honey when he recorded the Nov 67 vocal?
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« Reply #616 on: August 04, 2017, 05:34:50 AM »

Love the "live" Hawaii version of California Girls. Listening to the ending chord/bass progression brought Your Imagination to mind instantly.
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« Reply #617 on: August 15, 2017, 06:20:47 PM »

I just got this, and its all the good things everyone says it is.  I notice the bass seems loud on the unreleased tracks ect.   They are probably using flatwounds  or (gasp) tapewound, which it sounds like on vegtables -- that would make it  bommier.   I am listening on Sony V506 headphones....Am i bonkers? Smiley     
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« Reply #618 on: August 15, 2017, 06:40:10 PM »

Sunshine Tomorrow debuted at 145 in the US.  50 Big Ones also made a reappearance at 142.

Yikes that's bad, even taking into account this is an archival release. How many copies do you need to sell these days to make it to 145? A thousand?

Let's hope it doesn't derail similar release in the future. It's one of the most revelatory and enjoyable sets of this kind I've ever listened to.
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« Reply #619 on: August 15, 2017, 07:46:48 PM »

Sunshine Tomorrow debuted at 145 in the US.  50 Big Ones also made a reappearance at 142.

Yikes that's bad, even taking into account this is an archival release. How many copies do you need to sell these days to make it to 145? A thousand?

Let's hope it doesn't derail similar release in the future. It's one of the most revelatory and enjoyable sets of this kind I've ever listened to.

Keep in mind that the Pet Sounds 50th anniversary release did not chart, nor did the Party archival release.  145 isn't awful considering that, as well as the fact it's material from a period that the general public has forgotten about aside from Darlin' and maybe Wild Honey.
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