The Beach Boys Wild Honey(Sunshine Tomorrow) 2CD Set?

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

I did notice that...in fact my daughter asked if it was originally part of H&V .

[Rocky Raccoon]

It's a recurring motif in Smile, it also shows up in the tag to Vega-Tables.

[jiggy22]

During the instrumental version of "Wonderful", when it gets to the freak-out/party section (from 1:13 to 1:50), has anyone else noticed that part of "Heroes and Villains" fits perfectly over it?

https://youtu.be/biUIN_x8jT4?t=1m11s

I thought I was the only person to ever notice that lol

One track I've been listening to a lot is the alternate "Whispering Winds" section of Wind Chimes. Such a breathtakingly beautiful piece by the group!

[The Heartical Don]

I (all of us) noticed the distortion in 'Country Air' -

is it deliberate?

Was it meant to imitate the sound of bees?

Am I bonkers?

[Jukka]

Haven't bought the CD but listened to the outtakes on Spotify. Dammit, them Boys blew me away once again! Such revelatory, beautiful pieces... Heartwarming to hear Brian so into it. Of course, the proof has been in the pudding all these years, but hearing him guide the guys and sounding so enthused really makes me feel good, even though I've known for ages that the "he went to bed after Smile" was just a myth. Great stuff. Can't wait to get my own copy.

My only gripe is we don't have full Hawaii concerts... Oh well. A download-only live album would satisfy my soul. Please?

[rab2591]

Haven't bought the CD but listened to the outtakes on Spotify. Dammit, them Boys blew me away once again! Such revelatory, beautiful pieces... Heartwarming to hear Brian so into it. Of course, the proof has been in the pudding all these years, but hearing him guide the guys and sounding so enthused really makes me feel good, even though I've known for ages that the "he went to bed after Smile" was just a myth. Great stuff. Can't wait to get my own copy.

My only gripe is we don't have full Hawaii concerts... Oh well. A download-only live album would satisfy my soul. Please?

This set makes me so excited for a possible Friends set like this...of course I don’t think anything of the sort is coming out, but I’d love for it to. To hear Brian firing on all cylinders, having fun, exploring all those great chords.

Hey Billy or Guitarfool, any chance this set will be available to review in the official album review section? I’ve been wanting to share my thoughts on this, but wanted to rate it in a proper review thread.

[The_Beach]

Does anyone know why Little Red Book wasnt released on this set! I think it would have made a great addition!


Fingures crossed for a friends album just as good as Sunshine Tomorrow!!!

[guitarfool2002]

Haven't bought the CD but listened to the outtakes on Spotify. Dammit, them Boys blew me away once again! Such revelatory, beautiful pieces... Heartwarming to hear Brian so into it. Of course, the proof has been in the pudding all these years, but hearing him guide the guys and sounding so enthused really makes me feel good, even though I've known for ages that the "he went to bed after Smile" was just a myth. Great stuff. Can't wait to get my own copy.

My only gripe is we don't have full Hawaii concerts... Oh well. A download-only live album would satisfy my soul. Please?

This set makes me so excited for a possible Friends set like this...of course I don’t think anything of the sort is coming out, but I’d love for it to. To hear Brian firing on all cylinders, having fun, exploring all those great chords.

Hey Billy or Guitarfool, any chance this set will be available to review in the official album review section? I’ve been wanting to share my thoughts on this, but wanted to rate it in a proper review thread.

Official review thread started here: http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,25324.0.html

[guitarfool2002]

Haven't bought the CD but listened to the outtakes on Spotify. Dammit, them Boys blew me away once again! Such revelatory, beautiful pieces... Heartwarming to hear Brian so into it. Of course, the proof has been in the pudding all these years, but hearing him guide the guys and sounding so enthused really makes me feel good, even though I've known for ages that the "he went to bed after Smile" was just a myth. Great stuff. Can't wait to get my own copy.

Mythology is indeed what it was until this set shattered the myth, and that includes the notion of Carl producing more of this material in '67 than Brian.

I asked on another thread, but am curious since you're a fan who heard that proof in the pudding, if you remember, where did all the mythology start and why was it repeated for so long? I'm thinking you and I are not the only ones who heard the proof in the pudding all along and this set just backed it up even more with the studio chatter. I'm just curious if other fans remember how and why all that nonsense got started in the first place.

[rab2591]

Haven't bought the CD but listened to the outtakes on Spotify. Dammit, them Boys blew me away once again! Such revelatory, beautiful pieces... Heartwarming to hear Brian so into it. Of course, the proof has been in the pudding all these years, but hearing him guide the guys and sounding so enthused really makes me feel good, even though I've known for ages that the "he went to bed after Smile" was just a myth. Great stuff. Can't wait to get my own copy.

My only gripe is we don't have full Hawaii concerts... Oh well. A download-only live album would satisfy my soul. Please?

This set makes me so excited for a possible Friends set like this...of course I don’t think anything of the sort is coming out, but I’d love for it to. To hear Brian firing on all cylinders, having fun, exploring all those great chords.

Hey Billy or Guitarfool, any chance this set will be available to review in the official album review section? I’ve been wanting to share my thoughts on this, but wanted to rate it in a proper review thread.

Official review thread started here: http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,25324.0.html

Thanks so much!

[jiggy22]

Does anyone know why Little Red Book wasnt released on this set! I think it would have made a great addition!


Fingures crossed for a friends album just as good as Sunshine Tomorrow!!!

That was (apparently) recorded during the sessions for Friends. It's debated that it was either recorded in February of 1967 or early 1968, but the tapes for the track were found packaged together with other Friends-era songs.

[Hickory Violet Part IV]

During the instrumental version of "Wonderful", when it gets to the freak-out/party section (from 1:13 to 1:50), has anyone else noticed that part of "Heroes and Villains" fits perfectly over it?

https://youtu.be/biUIN_x8jT4?t=1m11s

I thought I was the only person to ever notice that lol

Suprised people are even mentioning it. It's obviously the same piece of music.

[Hickory Violet Part IV]

I (all of us) noticed the distortion in 'Country Air' -

is it deliberate?

Was it meant to imitate the sound of bees?

Am I bonkers?

Hi Don

It is a Chamberlin, which is what the Mellotron was based on. A very early sample player and the distortion is either inherent in the instrument itself, or occured from the way they recorded it. Perhaps, as you say, it was intentional.

 Not sure what patch they used, some people think flute.

[The Heartical Don]

I (all of us) noticed the distortion in 'Country Air' -

is it deliberate?

Was it meant to imitate the sound of bees?

Am I bonkers?

Hi Don

It is a Chamberlin, which is what the Mellotron was based on. A very early sample player and the distortion is either inherent in the instrument itself, or occured from the way they recorded it. Perhaps, as you say, it was intentional.

 Not sure what patch they used, some people think flute.

Many thanks! I love this kind of detail, and now I see that it is, intended or not, authentic (not an artefact).

[terrei]

Too bad it was digitally removed from the new stereo mix. The backing vocals now have this weird stuttering artifact because of it.

And if LTWB wasn't a digital extraction mix, I can't understand why there's an arbitrary noise gate on the backing vocal stem.

[harrisonjon]

Was Brian planning to include Surf's Up on Wild Honey when he recorded the Nov 67 vocal?

[Rick5150]

Love the "live" Hawaii version of California Girls. Listening to the ending chord/bass progression brought Your Imagination to mind instantly.

[cube_monkey]

I just got this, and its all the good things everyone says it is.  I notice the bass seems loud on the unreleased tracks ect.   They are probably using flatwounds  or (gasp) tapewound, which it sounds like on vegtables -- that would make it  bommier.   I am listening on Sony V506 headphones....Am i bonkers?      

[kreen]

Sunshine Tomorrow debuted at 145 in the US.  50 Big Ones also made a reappearance at 142.

Yikes that's bad, even taking into account this is an archival release. How many copies do you need to sell these days to make it to 145? A thousand?

Let's hope it doesn't derail similar release in the future. It's one of the most revelatory and enjoyable sets of this kind I've ever listened to.

[The Cincinnati Kid]

Sunshine Tomorrow debuted at 145 in the US.  50 Big Ones also made a reappearance at 142.

Yikes that's bad, even taking into account this is an archival release. How many copies do you need to sell these days to make it to 145? A thousand?

Let's hope it doesn't derail similar release in the future. It's one of the most revelatory and enjoyable sets of this kind I've ever listened to.

Keep in mind that the Pet Sounds 50th anniversary release did not chart, nor did the Party archival release.  145 isn't awful considering that, as well as the fact it's material from a period that the general public has forgotten about aside from Darlin' and maybe Wild Honey.

[The Heartical Don]

OK -

I have Sunshine Tomorrow for more than two months now. Time for an evaluation.

1. It is a labour of love, and it is so much more than the umpteenth reworking of a minor classic, or a release born out of necessity (may that glitch in copyright extension laws live forever! Best mistake in the history of our universe, bar none!)

2. It came out of nowhere (seemingly), no big fanfare, and its presentation is as modest as it is complete and accurate; everything comes together with this one

3. I get enormous pleasure out of playing it - I reach for it late in the evening, no TV or any other screen on. A lit candle does the trick (well, and a good craft beer from Belgium).

The BBs catalogue is gigantic, and still this thing is one of its highlights.

Cheers to all involved!

[hideyotsuburaya]

the correct CD to listen to (late at night under candlelight) having just been identified for us (as if there's any doubt)

I will identify the correct Belgium craft beer that was alluded to - BROEJEL (a bock lager), chill well

[The Heartical Don]

the correct CD to listen to (late at night under candlelight) having just been identified for us (as if there's any doubt)

I will identify the correct Belgium craft beer that was alluded to - BROEJEL (a bock lager), chill well

Ha! Cheers, and what a fine beer name it is: Broejel! Plus: I love bock beers.

The circle is round, the question is answered, and I guess SSnet can now consider its grand mission fulfilled.

[orange22]

I have Sunshine Tomorrow for more than two months now. Time for an evaluation.

1. It is a labour of love, and it is so much more than the umpteenth reworking of a minor classic

Cheers to all involved!

Indeed to all of the above. Musically it was always a fun album, but the remix has improved the sound quality so much that it actually enhances the music, which is a feat.
Without meaning to cause offense, you have to wonder how the original sounded so bad in comparison, when the recordings are of such high fidelity...
But massive kudos to Mr. Linett for giving us a mix that sounds both warm and modern.

[MatchPoint]

I've been playing this a lot from our Apple TV and my girlfriend says it's her favorite Beach Boys album now. She particularly likes I Was Made To Love Her.

It's hugely satisfying for me because I've never tried to get her into this band. It's just happening naturally.