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Quote from: Jay on January 03, 2017, 06:04:53 PM
Quote from: ♩♬☮ Dude Where's My Frog?! ♯♫♩☮ on January 03, 2017, 01:19:28 PM
Ahh crap...oh well, better late than never
I've been searching for the thread, but I don't remember which one it was.
During the good old days...
http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,23056.msg549028.html#msg549028
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Awesome. ..thank you .
And yes, you definitely were NOT lying
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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on November 25, 2015, 01:13:36 AM
Quote from: ♩♬ Fear 2 Stop ♯♫♩ on November 24, 2015, 10:20:43 PM
It'd be impossible to prove the PM thing either way, for starters, not without breaking the board rules.
Smile Brian is lying. Billy, you have my permission go into my PM outbox and report back here with the exact number of these tons of messages pushing my agenda and manipulating this board.
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Wow. I'm reading through that thread (I encourage anyone here to do so) and am realizing just how screwed up a campaign there was to denounce those who were speaking out about the PM abuse. Here's a quote from that train-wreck of a thread:
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Sometimes we get so far up our own collective ass that we forget, this isn't real. The false accusations, the name calling, the anger, the stupidity, the paranoia... it's transient. No-one really gets hurt.
- AGD
It's funny because I know firsthand that someone was hurt by a statement made by this man from a PM. I know the exact wording in one of these PMs about a man and a family member of his that would make your blood boil if you read it, it's absolutely sickening. This
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real, Andrew. Maybe because you hold this belief that it isn't real you decided to spread false accusations about Melinda regarding their children. Maybe because you believe it isn't real made you want to be the errand boy for an "interested party" (gee I wonder who that was) who wanted the home address of a poster here. Maybe because you believe this isn't real made you pass on the information to Billy that Smile Brian was really Melinda Wilson (I've met Smile Brian in real life and I can assure you he
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That above quote perfectly illustrates the delusions that surrounded this whole fiasco. In that thread you can see how either Andrew's usual cronies tried to silence those telling the truth regarding false info in PMs, or there were people who actually believed that none of this was going on.
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I confess to being one of those who were once on Andrew's side, and as a result I said some very unkind things about Craig. I'm going to take this time to publicly apologize. I'm sorry, Craig. I fell for his game and as a result turned against some of the ones who were really fighting to make this a better place.
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It's okay Jay, I was another target of that sick game from Doe.
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Quote from: Jay on January 04, 2017, 09:46:52 AM
I confess to being one of those who were once on Andrew's side, and as a result I said some very unkind things about Craig. I'm going to take this time to publicly apologize. I'm sorry, Craig. I fell for his game and as a result turned against some of the ones who were really fighting to make this a better place.
Honestly, given the full-blown campaign that was taking place to denounce Craig (and those who were speaking out), had I not seen any evidence of the PMs myself I probably would've done the same thing. Fortunately the evidence finally came out. Sadly there are people out there, in light of public evidence, who still defend this guy (and even give him an honored status...smh).
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Quote from: mtaber on September 18, 2021, 07:39:15 AM
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It is disgusting. A McCarthy-esque slander campaign was waged by a formerly respected "insider" (cough) against the Wilsons, Jardines, and any others who were critical of the Love faction, who claimed to be neutral but the fact that they had numerous dinner dates gives one reason to wonder.
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Quote from: ♩♬☮ Dude Where's My Frog?! ♯♫♩☮ on January 04, 2017, 10:48:39 AM
It is disgusting. A McCarthy-esque slander campaign was waged by a formerly respected "insider" (cough) against the Wilsons, Jardines, and any others who were critical of the Love faction, who claimed to be neutral but the fact that they had numerous dinner dates gives one reason to wonder.
Will you be sharing those PMs?
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If it proof is needed and it comes down to it, yes. There are still a couple of people affected that have to be notified first, though.
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Still spreading misinfo...
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I've been told that elsewhere, doubt has be cast on the accuracy of 10452, specifically the session date for "Drip Drop" being incorrectly listed as August 1974. Which is very odd, because it's correctly listed as October 19th 1978, the date on the AFM contract.
Never said it was listed on the website as being recorded on Aug 1974. He told *me* that. The website has it listed correctly. Why? Because of actual researchers doing their due diligence.
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Quote from: Jay on January 04, 2017, 09:46:52 AM
I confess to being one of those who were once on Andrew's side, and as a result I said some very unkind things about Craig. I'm going to take this time to publicly apologize. I'm sorry, Craig. I fell for his game and as a result turned against some of the ones who were really fighting to make this a better place.
Thank you Jay, I appreciate that very much.
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I have to comment on something immediately...
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Want to know why Cohen suddenly vanished from this forum ? Some time previously I'd followed up on something someone alluded to in a PM to me about him, and it panned out, so I filed it for future use. You may recall he consistently denied that his connection with the Big O site made him a bootlegger, so when I finally got fed up with that, I sent him a PM stating (accurately) that I'd spoken with the people he'd worked with on various archive reissues in the UK and how they confirmed that he lost that gig because anything he worked on turned up within a short time on Big O, and that investigations revealed that he'd been copying the tapes he'd had access to. I also noted that various agencies in the UK and US might be interested to know of this.
^Keep in mind that Cohen left the board after Andrew threatened to burn his house down....
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Quote from: ♩♬☮ Dude Where's My Frog?! ♯♫♩☮ on January 04, 2017, 08:34:34 PM
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Want to know why Cohen suddenly vanished from this forum ? Some time previously I'd followed up on something someone alluded to in a PM to me about him, and it panned out, so I filed it for future use. You may recall he consistently denied that his connection with the Big O site made him a bootlegger, so when I finally got fed up with that, I sent him a PM stating (accurately) that I'd spoken with the people he'd worked with on various archive reissues in the UK and how they confirmed that he lost that gig because anything he worked on turned up within a short time on Big O, and that investigations revealed that he'd been copying the tapes he'd had access to. I also noted that various agencies in the UK and US might be interested to know of this.
^Keep in mind that Cohen left the board after Andrew threatened to burn his house down....
I remember that. That at the time seemed like just another "Oh, here's Doe losing his sh*t again. *yawn*", but within the context of that above quote, it's actually quite scary.
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Quote from: guitarfool2002 on January 04, 2017, 07:18:54 PM
Quote from: Jay on January 04, 2017, 09:46:52 AM
I confess to being one of those who were once on Andrew's side, and as a result I said some very unkind things about Craig. I'm going to take this time to publicly apologize. I'm sorry, Craig. I fell for his game and as a result turned against some of the ones who were really fighting to make this a better place.
Thank you Jay, I appreciate that very much.
No problem. I'm just sorry it took this long to fully see the truth of everything.
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Quote from: ♩♬☮ Dude Where's My Frog?! ♯♫♩☮ on January 04, 2017, 08:34:34 PM
I have to comment on something immediately...
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Want to know why Cohen suddenly vanished from this forum ? Some time previously I'd followed up on something someone alluded to in a PM to me about him, and it panned out, so I filed it for future use. You may recall he consistently denied that his connection with the Big O site made him a bootlegger, so when I finally got fed up with that, I sent him a PM stating (accurately) that I'd spoken with the people he'd worked with on various archive reissues in the UK and how they confirmed that he lost that gig because anything he worked on turned up within a short time on Big O, and that investigations revealed that he'd been copying the tapes he'd had access to. I also noted that various agencies in the UK and US might be interested to know of this.
^Keep in mind that Cohen left the board after Andrew threatened to burn his house down....
I remember that. That at the time seemed like just another "Oh, here's Doe losing his sh*t again. *yawn*", but within the context of that above quote, it's actually quite scary.
Between that, and trying to have me use my mod powers to find the real name and address for OSD, and saying something about what should happen if Ang Jones should turn up missing since he found HER location, well....
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Re: Lifetime ban on AGD
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Quote from: ♩♬☮ Dude Where's My Frog?! ♯♫♩☮ on January 04, 2017, 08:52:17 PM
Quote from: Jay on January 04, 2017, 08:44:29 PM
Quote from: ♩♬☮ Dude Where's My Frog?! ♯♫♩☮ on January 04, 2017, 08:34:34 PM
I have to comment on something immediately...
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Want to know why Cohen suddenly vanished from this forum ? Some time previously I'd followed up on something someone alluded to in a PM to me about him, and it panned out, so I filed it for future use. You may recall he consistently denied that his connection with the Big O site made him a bootlegger, so when I finally got fed up with that, I sent him a PM stating (accurately) that I'd spoken with the people he'd worked with on various archive reissues in the UK and how they confirmed that he lost that gig because anything he worked on turned up within a short time on Big O, and that investigations revealed that he'd been copying the tapes he'd had access to. I also noted that various agencies in the UK and US might be interested to know of this.
^Keep in mind that Cohen left the board after Andrew threatened to burn his house down....
I remember that. That at the time seemed like just another "Oh, here's Doe losing his sh*t again. *yawn*", but within the context of that above quote, it's actually quite scary.
Between that, and trying to have me use my mod powers to find the real name and address for OSD, and saying something about what should happen if Ang Jones should turn up missing since he found HER location, well....
Didn't something similar happen regarding Oregon River Rider, too?
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I need to go back through my PMs to check, but I do know Andrew wasn't exactly the warmest to ORR (and that's putting it mildly)
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Quote from: ♩♬☮ Dude Where's My Frog?! ♯♫♩☮ on January 04, 2017, 08:57:24 PM
I need to go back through my PMs to check, but I do know Andrew wasn't exactly the warmest to ORR (and that's putting it mildly)
I think the root of ORR problems with Doe was his story about how Mike allegedly tried to seduce wife while he was standing right there.
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Quote from: ♩♬☮ Dude Where's My Frog?! ♯♫♩☮ on January 04, 2017, 08:52:17 PM
Quote from: Jay on January 04, 2017, 08:44:29 PM
Quote from: ♩♬☮ Dude Where's My Frog?! ♯♫♩☮ on January 04, 2017, 08:34:34 PM
I have to comment on something immediately...
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Want to know why Cohen suddenly vanished from this forum ? Some time previously I'd followed up on something someone alluded to in a PM to me about him, and it panned out, so I filed it for future use. You may recall he consistently denied that his connection with the Big O site made him a bootlegger, so when I finally got fed up with that, I sent him a PM stating (accurately) that I'd spoken with the people he'd worked with on various archive reissues in the UK and how they confirmed that he lost that gig because anything he worked on turned up within a short time on Big O, and that investigations revealed that he'd been copying the tapes he'd had access to. I also noted that various agencies in the UK and US might be interested to know of this.
^Keep in mind that Cohen left the board after Andrew threatened to burn his house down....
I remember that. That at the time seemed like just another "Oh, here's Doe losing his sh*t again. *yawn*", but within the context of that above quote, it's actually quite scary.
Between that, and trying to have me use my mod powers to find the real name and address for OSD, and saying something about what should happen if Ang Jones should turn up missing since he found HER location, well....
No offense but, if that's the case why the hell wasn't he kicked out long ago???
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Quote from: Jay on January 04, 2017, 09:10:30 PM
Quote from: ♩♬☮ Dude Where's My Frog?! ♯♫♩☮ on January 04, 2017, 08:52:17 PM
Quote from: Jay on January 04, 2017, 08:44:29 PM
Quote from: ♩♬☮ Dude Where's My Frog?! ♯♫♩☮ on January 04, 2017, 08:34:34 PM
I have to comment on something immediately...
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Want to know why Cohen suddenly vanished from this forum ? Some time previously I'd followed up on something someone alluded to in a PM to me about him, and it panned out, so I filed it for future use. You may recall he consistently denied that his connection with the Big O site made him a bootlegger, so when I finally got fed up with that, I sent him a PM stating (accurately) that I'd spoken with the people he'd worked with on various archive reissues in the UK and how they confirmed that he lost that gig because anything he worked on turned up within a short time on Big O, and that investigations revealed that he'd been copying the tapes he'd had access to. I also noted that various agencies in the UK and US might be interested to know of this.
^Keep in mind that Cohen left the board after Andrew threatened to burn his house down....
I remember that. That at the time seemed like just another "Oh, here's Doe losing his sh*t again. *yawn*", but within the context of that above quote, it's actually quite scary.
Between that, and trying to have me use my mod powers to find the real name and address for OSD, and saying something about what should happen if Ang Jones should turn up missing since he found HER location, well....
No offense but, if that's the case why the hell wasn't he kicked out long ago???
I never saw the PM about Ang...it's still in my inbox though. Screenshot was posted way earlier in this thread.
I thought Cohen was lying because I trusted Andrew. Now in this context it becomes clear he was telling the truth
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Quote from: pixletwin on January 04, 2017, 09:03:58 PM
Quote from: ♩♬☮ Dude Where's My Frog?! ♯♫♩☮ on January 04, 2017, 08:57:24 PM
I need to go back through my PMs to check, but I do know Andrew wasn't exactly the warmest to ORR (and that's putting it mildly)
I think the root of ORR problems with Doe was his story about how Mike allegedly tried to seduce wife while he was standing right there.
There were other issues too....ORR was upset because he was claiming Andrew was harrassing him (among other things) and I kind of blew it off ...much to my regret. I know now not only was it true, it was WAY worse than I thought
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Maybe one of us should try to track Phil Cohen down and let him know we f***ed up and we believe him now, and welcome him back.
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Quote from: Jay on January 04, 2017, 09:59:54 PM
Maybe one of us should try to track Phil Cohen down and let him know we f***ed up and we believe him now, and welcome him back.
I didn't too much care for him, but yeah. At the very least I owe him a massive apology
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What the "Kokomaoist" faction was and is up to (trying to rewrite Beach Boys history, at all costs) has ALWAYS been obvious. What's surprising are the extremes to which this agenda has been brought by some of them. This is one of those cases when reality surpasses imagination by many miles.
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