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Author Topic: Rocky Pamplin book about The Beach Boys?  (Read 276276 times)
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« on: November 11, 2015, 09:07:50 AM »

Please don’t judge me for how I spend my spare time, but I just looked up Rocky Pamplin on copyright.gov and found a record from 2014 of a copyrighted text entitled “Wipeout: Caught in the Undertow of America's Greatest Band” authored by Rocky. I found nothing when I Googled this but presumably this is a manuscript by Rocky about his time with The Beach Boys. Steve Love is also listed as as a rights holder. Very interested in seeing this come out if it isn’t in some form already.

copyright record listed here: http://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?v1=636&ti=626,636&Search%5FArg=pamplin&Search%5FCode=NALL&CNT=25&PID=oxWpWdAuMg3Ks5tVyq_zesLrKefs&SEQ=20151111115416&SID=1
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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2015, 12:52:28 PM »

Steve was talking about it quite a bit a few years back.



335Steve Love on July 14, 2014

Yes, Rocky did indeed knock Carl to the floor in Melbourne, Australia in March I978, my last tour with the band. Rocky has written a book titled WIPEOUT in which he devotes an entire chapter to what we participants in that meeting in Mike Love’s suite with David Frost and others refer to as “the heroin incident.” Carl was drunk and surly and made the mistake of saying “f*** you, Rocky” in front of a roomful of men. Rocky wasn’t going to take that and leapt to his feet, bounded across the room and socked Carl hard in the jaw. The back of Carl’s head banged against the wall and he fell to the floor. BTW, it was the most picture perfect haymaker I ever saw. It was a stroke of luck that Carl’s jaw was not broken. As for the other incident you refer to, I have no knowledge of what transpired there.

Not only was I NOT the guy who karate chopped Dennis in the throat in 1974 at the Red Onion restaurant in Redondo Beach, CA, I’m the guy who knocked out the bouncer who struck a barefoot Dennis who attempted to push past the doorman to get to the dance floor. This incident is recounted in detail in Rocky’s forthcoming book WIPEOUT in the chapter titled “A Broken Spirit.”

As for Rocky and Stan beating Dennis up on Super Bowl Sunday in January 1980, Dennis was endangering Brian and had to be stopped. Although they were no longer in his employ as bodyguard-handlers, they loved Brian and wanted to protect him from his reckless brother. I don’t think they regret their actions; in fact, I think they think it was a well-deserved intervention.

Rocky is seeking a literary agent to represent him. His intriguing book is complete, has 36 chapters and runs about 300 pages. WIPEOUT is a most entertaining rock-and-roll memoir. If any literary agent out there is interested, please get in touch with me and I’ll connect you with Rocky.

WIPEOUT is Rocky’s story, told in his own inimitable style. It is replete with rather racy recollections of movie and rock stars, rich people, and royalty. It is a story of deceit and betrayal, the excesses of ego, where greed and jealousy run riot and family members are fair game. Part memoir and part expose, this is a book for the ages. Aloha.

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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2015, 01:05:15 PM »

Sounds gross. I sure wouldn't buy that thing.
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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2015, 01:10:25 PM »

It's a shame that these awful, violent people were so often around.
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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2015, 01:43:01 PM »

Hey Rocky...wanta see me pull a rabbit outa my hat?

Oh Bullwinkle THAT trick never works.

Nuthin up my sleeve.

Man!!!  If I'da seen that clown sock Carl like that...he'd have been unable to write even the letter X.  I ain't overly agressive but I have little time for bullies.  Rocky pickin' on Carl.  What a 1/4-man.  And ain't he the semi-stud who was hangin' around Marilyn when Brian was incapacitated? 

What a twerp!!!
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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2015, 01:53:21 PM »

With Brian Wilson and The Beach Boys, there's more than two sides to the story. There's more than two hundred sides to the story. This is one side I'd be interested in reading.
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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2015, 02:28:02 PM »

If this trash book is released, will Mike Love say it has an "interesting" viewpoint like the Evan Landy interview....
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« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2015, 02:36:22 PM »

With Brian Wilson and The Beach Boys, there's more than two sides to the story. There's more than two hundred sides to the story. This is one side I'd be interested in reading.

I still woulda dropped him right there in his ensuing excrement.  How the 'eff' did he get away with doing that to Carl blinkin' WILSON?  He should simply have done as requested and effed off.  But NO!!!  He had to beat up a pacifist.  What did they have on hand then cheerleaders for security?  Rocky effin Pamplin woulda been a pile of rotting flesh if I'da seen that happen.  Gawd that makes me mad. Angry
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« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2015, 05:40:27 PM »

This is one BB related book I would have no interest in looking at, never mind purchasing...
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« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2015, 06:14:03 PM »

With Brian Wilson and The Beach Boys, there's more than two sides to the story. There's more than two hundred sides to the story. This is one side I'd be interested in reading.
For me, whoever hit first is on the wrong side every time, in anyone's story.
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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2015, 06:17:18 PM »

If this trash book is released, will Mike Love say it has an "interesting" viewpoint like the Evan Landy interview....

I wouldn't be at all surprised if myKe wrote the forward for this pile of sh*t. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2015, 06:42:47 PM »

I believe that incident with Carl was the last straw for Al and caused him to change his vote and remove Steve Love as manager..which led Steve to call Al chickensh!t or something like that.
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« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2015, 07:26:18 PM »

I believe that incident with Carl was the last straw for Al and caused him to change his vote and remove Steve Love as manager..which led Steve to call Al chickensh!t or something like that.
I sure hope so. Al is a peaceful guy, I doubt he enjoyed having these baboons around.
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« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2015, 08:18:52 PM »

At least we know now that Steve didn't punch Dennis in the throat, resulting in his increased raspiness, as has been suggested...but rather, that it was in fact someone else who did so, and Steve and Dennis were on the same side of that particular fight.
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« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2015, 10:46:58 PM »

This is one BB related book I would have no interest in looking at, never mind purchasing...

Oh, I'd read it, purely to be able to rip the righteous sh*t out of it. Buy it ? Nah... unless it was on Amazon UK at 1p.
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« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2015, 11:04:36 PM »

I'd get a copy, purely to soak it in my own waste before sending it off for an autograph.
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« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2015, 11:32:23 PM »

Sounds like a real muckraker. I'd only buy it if it was going really cheap.
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« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2015, 12:10:05 AM »

Gosh, in order to generate exposure for the potential publication of his book, perhaps Rocky would like to join the Smiley Smile board so as to engage in dialogue with the members here.  Evil Evil

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« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2015, 12:20:53 AM »

Better yet, Steve Love! While we're hoping for Dishonored Guests.

 Maybe it's like Derek Smart, and he can be summoned if you chant his name three times.

STEVE LOVE STEVE LOVE STEVE LOVE.

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« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2015, 03:26:08 AM »

If the composers of The Surfaris' hit object to Rocky's title, LL Cool J has a good alternative: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vimZj8HW0Kg

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« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2015, 06:21:38 AM »

I dunno, it’s at least *interesting* that it appears Steve and Pamplin (assuming Steve’s reports of Pamplin’s words are correct) aren’t particularly denying several key stories that paint them in a rather poor light. Like the “Heroes and Villains” book by Gaines (which was also heavy on Steve Love/Rocky Pamplin sagas), it might be a sticky, icky book to read through with hyperbole galore, but might have some core stories and facts that aren’t found anywhere else.

Even if you’re inclined to not immediately be defensive of Carl being punched, even if Carl was just some random guy, Pamplin *still* comes across like a douche in the story. Maybe he was a big tough guy, but punching and knocking out some guy who’s drunk and strung out on heavy drugs isn’t the most challenging thing in the world.

Pamplin being taken seriously also wasn’t done any favors by the photo spread in the Gaines book. I still find it comical that a Beach Boys biography could contain the “safe” half of a Playgirl centerfold.
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« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2015, 08:11:40 AM »


Even if you’re inclined to not immediately be defensive of Carl being punched, even if Carl was just some random guy, Pamplin *still* comes across like a douche in the story. Maybe he was a big tough guy, but punching and knocking out some guy who’s drunk and strung out on heavy drugs isn’t the most challenging thing in the world.


Not defending Pamplin's actions by any means, but Carl's behaviour had just nearly tanked an entire tour. To then get drunk and abusive when confronted may have been the proverbial straw.
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« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2015, 08:13:03 AM »

Oh, I would buy this book in a heartbeat. I loved Heroes & Villains, despite the bits I knew were patently false. But I'm a terrible person, so your mileage may vary. Smiley
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« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2015, 08:20:37 AM »

I've read various quotes by the people involved on the various assaults on the Wilsons, and the assailants never seem to get that battery is NEVER OK regardless of how annoyed or angry or whatever you feel regarding someone. They never seem regretful or "I just lost it. It was really terrible of me. I've taken X steps to learn to control my behavior better..." It's always "Carl was rude, so..." "Dennis gave Brian drugs so..." "Your mother undermined my authority and incredibly harsh violent punishment is good for kids so..."
The lack of regret and recognition that battery is wrong IN ANY CASE is what really bothers me.
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« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2015, 09:00:06 AM »

I've read various quotes by the people involved on the various assaults on the Wilsons, and the assailants never seem to get that battery is NEVER OK regardless of how annoyed or angry or whatever you feel regarding someone. They never seem regretful or "I just lost it. It was really terrible of me. I've taken X steps to learn to control my behavior better..." It's always "Carl was rude, so..." "Dennis gave Brian drugs so..." "Your mother undermined my authority and incredibly harsh violent punishment is good for kids so..."
The lack of regret and recognition that battery is wrong IN ANY CASE is what really bothers me.

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