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« Reply #50 on: May 01, 2016, 02:31:20 AM »

If Gustav Holst is best known for The Planets, much to his dismay (he didn't rate that work highly), this haunting miniature is arguably his masterpiece. Apparently the composer thought so too. Crank up the volume----it begins very quietly and much of it is hushed. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msIL7eavgk4

http://www.phillipcooke.com/on-gustav-holsts-egdon-heath/

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« Reply #51 on: May 12, 2016, 06:36:16 AM »

Veering slightly off course, here are two fairly (or rather unfairly) obscure works you might lend an ear to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=940dNX5zHEU

(Info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dora_Pejačević)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8iFPHq6zjM

(Info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Fanelli)
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« Reply #52 on: June 02, 2016, 02:28:36 AM »

The English composer Edward Elgar was born 159 years ago today. This is my favourite among his compositions:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPCQNlWnG-8

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cello_Concerto_(Elgar)
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« Reply #53 on: June 18, 2016, 05:48:01 PM »

I love Nielsen's symphonies, especially the 4th ("The Inextinguishable") and the 5th (with the snare drum fighting the rest of the orchestra). I'd name him as #1 among the underrated composers.
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« Reply #54 on: June 19, 2016, 10:46:20 AM »

I love Nielsen's symphonies, especially the 4th ("The Inextinguishable") and the 5th (with the snare drum fighting the rest of the orchestra). I'd name him as #1 among the underrated composers.

He's amazing, isn't he? The Horenstein version of his Symphony No. 5 is one of my favourite recordings of anything----particularly that first movement! This exquisite miniature is from the same 1969 Unicorn album:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQi08boz6xg
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« Reply #55 on: June 20, 2016, 04:32:25 PM »

Ah, the Saga-Drøm, another fantastic (in more than one meaning) piece, and Jascha Horenstein directs it so well. Thanks for the link! Smiley

Speaking of underrated music, imho this is a very underrated gem, though it's by Beethoven himself. I noticed that classical works integrating folk or folk-like tunes (here, starting at 6.57) tend to be underrated. The great Ludwig putting folk dance music in the middle of a serious piece? Preposterous!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQaS5P9gxwg



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« Reply #56 on: June 21, 2016, 03:37:43 AM »

Ah, the Saga-Drřm, another fantastic (in more than one meaning) piece, and Jascha Horenstein directs it so well. Thanks for the link! Smiley

Speaking of underrated music, imho this is a very underrated gem, though it's by Beethoven himself. I noticed that classical works integrating folk or folk-like tunes (here, starting at 6.57) tend to be underrated. The great Ludwig putting folk dance music in the middle of a serious piece? Preposterous!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQaS5P9gxwg

I've never been a fan of the Ninth Symphony (except perhaps in the fantastic Beethoven cycle under René Leibowitz, now unfortunately removed from YouTube) but here you have the finale of the Ninth and a piano sonata all rolled into one. And it's not too long. Perfect! Maybe it's underrated because it's treated as a preamble to the Ninth rather than as a work in its own right. I love it. Thanks for that, Thorgil.

Perhaps Beethoven's most famous rustic episode is in the 3rd movement of his Pastoral Symphony, up to and including a flat-footed folk dance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbFxVVLM2zc

  
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« Reply #57 on: June 26, 2016, 04:27:05 AM »

Heard an excellent performance of Fauré's Requiem yesterday with just piano accompaniment. Most enlightening to hear a skeletal version of a work whose original scoring was for organ or (as here) orchestra:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYC2uyxSC60
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« Reply #58 on: July 13, 2016, 05:56:37 AM »

In the Netherlands, if ever they play something from Smetana's Má vlast, it's always "Vltava", which is a wonderful piece but there are five others, two of which are truly magnificent: "Vyšehrad" and this one whose English title is "From Bohemia's Woods And Fields".  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQj33Oh_qOQ

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma_vlast

This is for Alan Smith, who I'm sure looks in here from time to time. It may even inspire him to start a "classical" topic across the road (if they don't have one already).
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« Reply #59 on: July 17, 2016, 04:42:14 AM »

Allegri's Miserere is a fascinating work with an equally fascinating history:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miserere_(Allegri) [evidently takes two steps to get there]

This for me is the definitive version from 1963, with some stunning soprano singing from the then 12-year-old Roy Goodman:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piPiVndX7kw

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« Reply #60 on: July 30, 2016, 10:54:12 AM »

The Finnish composer Einojuhani Rautavaara died three days ago aged 87----a good age, I suppose.

The choir I accompanied at rehearsals used to perform works by him and pretty demanding they were too.

This is my favourite work of Rautavaara's, the haunting Cantus Arcticus for orchestra and tape:  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uRQkXSfDOU

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantus_Arcticus

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« Reply #61 on: July 30, 2016, 01:23:02 PM »

Why hadn't I known of this thread before?

I grew up surrounded by classical music. My parents both sang in a concert choir and my Dad was in the New Orleans Symphony Chorus as well.
In college I had a student subscription to hear the Symphony concerts. Heard all the Beethoven symphonies that year, also was the first time hearing Pachelbel's Canon.
While in the Symphony Chorus was able to sing Beethoven's Ninth under the direction of then wunderkind Leonard Slatkin, and later on Maxim Shostakovich conducted us in his father Dmitri's The Execution of Stepan Razin, a wild and wonderful piece with a surprising, macabre ending. I'll always treasure these experiences.

Have been attracted to classical music with Folk elements, so Grieg, Kodaly, Bartok, Vaughn Williams, Copland, Dvorak, and some Beethoven are favorites. Also a soft spot for French music of Debussy and Bizet.
And of course, our wonderful local composer Louis Moreau Gottschalk. My piano teacher was a big fan of his and had done a lot of research into his work when she was in college way back in the day.

Sung a bunch of Requiems over the years, my favorites being Faure and Durufle. Was just contrasting the two "In Paradisum" versions. Faure's version is so angelic and peaceful. Durufle's in contrast indicates a bit of unsettledness. As a Beach Boys fan I love unusual chords - that final chord in Durufle's version - wow! Positively slays me!

Am open to suggestions for further listening and will check out the suggestions given.
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« Reply #62 on: July 30, 2016, 02:34:57 PM »

Welcome to this thread, NOLA BBF! :=)

i first heard Stepan Razin (on the radio) in '62 (which does tend to date me) under Rozhdestvensky, whose bracing (not to say fiery) approach to conducting was new to Western ears. A fantastic work. And you've sung it----under Maxim Shostakovich! I saw him conduct once, when Valery Gergiev was held up in New York. (This was just days after 9/11.)  It was his father's Fourth Symphony (my favourite) and you can imagine what an electric performance that was, not least because of the circumstances.

My list of names would include all the people whose music I've linked here. But I generally tend to like works rather than composers...  

Duruflé's and Fauré's Requiems are both stunning in their own way. Yes indeed----that final chord!!!

As for Gottschalk, I found this orchestral work of his: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_kKKFPbz4M

I shall give it a listen later...
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« Reply #63 on: July 31, 2016, 03:57:39 AM »

Why hadn't I known of this thread before?

Regrettably a number of its posters have since moved on. I'm still hoping Alan Smith (or maybe Silken) will start a "classical" topic at the new site. Every board should have one, you know.
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« Reply #64 on: August 01, 2016, 02:40:32 AM »

As for Gottschalk, I found this orchestral work of his:  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_kKKFPbz4M

I shall give it a listen later...

What a wonderful piece! Amazing to think this was written in 1859, the year Brahms' first piano concerto was premiered. I'd always imagined Gottschalk to be from much later but he was born two years after Beethoven died...  

Seeing the name Tchaikowsky mentioned across the road, it struck me that he hasn't been featured yet in this topic. His Capriccio Italien is a fine example of a work dedicated to a country other than that of its composer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-jWskOx3mg  
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« Reply #65 on: August 04, 2016, 05:24:47 AM »

Capriccio Italien is a good piece by one of my fav composers, but imho the masterpiece in the "homage to another country" genre is this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nP0gqKmWuY

The finale is majestic, and you can easily imagine it played by a big bagpipe band.
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« Reply #66 on: August 04, 2016, 06:51:26 AM »

The finale is majestic, and you can easily imagine it played by a big bagpipe band.

I can see (or rather hear) what you mean!

I have (and love) nos. 4 and 5 and a bunch of brilliant overtures but the Scottish seems to have passed me by----until now. Many thanks!


Before that, I listened to some Wagner conducted by a great favourite of mine, Sergiu Celibidache:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlZeO_GT45k



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« Reply #67 on: August 04, 2016, 07:13:28 AM »

Ah well... Tristan & Isolde... that's sublime. It's Wagner's Pet Sounds, much like the "Ring" is his Smile. Smiley

Everybody who, like me, has watched a lot of classic Hollywood movies has listened, usually without knowing it, to countless uncredited variations on Tristan & Isolde's music...
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« Reply #68 on: August 04, 2016, 04:32:54 PM »

Macho Man Randy Savage's entrance theme!
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« Reply #69 on: August 07, 2016, 05:43:37 AM »

Macho Man Randy Savage's entrance theme!

I had to look this up, never having heard of Randy Savage. Yes, a fine entrance theme indeed. :=)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc1lu-WU3hI


Actually, I came here to link a stunning piece I heard this morning by the Mexican composer Silvestre Revueltas. I know his Sensemayá but heard this linked one and its companion pieces in the suite La Noche de los Mayas for the first time today...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEo5RKvs8gY

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silvestre_Revueltas

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« Reply #70 on: August 10, 2016, 07:10:43 AM »

This has to be one of the most beautiful pieces of choral music written during the past fifty years, if not of all time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn5ken3RJBo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morten_Lauridsen

At the risk of having my knuckles rapped (or much worse) I respectfully dedicate this to Silken across the road and wonder whether her choir sings this.

The choir I used to accompany at rehearsals once performed this gem together with a second choir. That was an amazing experience----and their finest hour.
 
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« Reply #71 on: August 10, 2016, 07:44:28 AM »

Oh my goodness.
Thank you.
Such beauty.
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« Reply #72 on: August 17, 2016, 01:08:54 PM »

I once met the composer Herbert Howells. It was some time in the mid '60s. I'd been convinced to apply for a place at The Royal College of Music in London----a ridiculous idea, as I was nowhere near qualified to do so. I was interviewed by this Mr Howells, who was equally at a loss as to why I was there! What did I think of Bach, Mozart and Beethoven? In those days not much, I'm afraid. Poor man. Well, that was that.

Much later, I got to hear some of his music and fell in love with it. It's a funny old world, to be sure.

"My" choir used to sing a number of his works, including this heartbreaking Requiem:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1hBco-7y6M

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Howells


 
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« Reply #73 on: August 31, 2016, 06:45:38 AM »

Noticing halblaineisgood's question about Tchaikovsky in a future on-board Q&A with the Big Fella, I think Brian might warm to old Tsch.'s Manfred Symphony, by no means his most famous work in the genre but certainly my favourite. The passionate first movement is worth the price of admission alone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvIPcRwIW04

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manfred_Symphony
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« Reply #74 on: September 01, 2016, 04:28:32 AM »

Being an incorrigible musical snob, it took me a while to get to appreciate the genius of George Gershwin but his and Leonard Bernstein's music are firm favourites with me now.

This is for bringahorseinhere:   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RcUPs2S-MM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Overture
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