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« Reply #250 on: January 21, 2015, 07:19:11 PM »

The Cialis reply was posted in error. I The drug is used for a prostate problem, not for recreational use -- which I don't need it for. 
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« Reply #251 on: January 21, 2015, 07:21:11 PM »

I've just been looking over this entire thread.  People on the board can agree or disagree Mr. Daro's take on things... it's really immaterial.  What we have here is the viewpoint of someone who was there in the 1960s with Brian Wilson... and it's a rare viewpoint to have on this board.  I will gladly read anything he has to say, as it only increases my knowledge and perspective on the Beach Boys history and music.  Any opinions I have are my own business.  

Thank you for taking the time to post here, Mr. Daro.  I think a lot of people, myself included, are fascinated by what you have to say.
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« Reply #252 on: January 21, 2015, 07:33:02 PM »

Glad to see that Lorren Daro has rejoined the discussion, continuing to offer his perspective concerning what transpired at the time he and Brian were hanging out in the mid-sixties.  For sure many players at the time would disagree with his take on these events, but since he was there when some when some major stuff was happening from a creative standpoint, it is my hope he'll continue to post and answer questions proffered by SS board members.

I gotta say, though, that the Cialis post baffles me.  If it was cut and pasted in error, is he aware that the post can be edited?  Or was it a subtle way to indicate, after he was referred to as an old guy, that with the benefit of Cialis for Daily Use he's still going strong in the virility dept?

And one more thing - I've had the opportunity to speak with Marilyn Wilson on a few occasions over the years, and she always came across as a very friendly and incredibly nice person.  Plus I absolutely love her singing voice.  Mr. Daro, if you want to be taken seriously, please refrain from the juvenile sounding verbal attacks found in your first post on this board.

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« Reply #253 on: January 21, 2015, 07:38:40 PM »

I think this latest post is a much better approach to opening the dialogue.  I too am glad to see that you've returned.  There's much to learn.  So I'll read lots...and post little. Cool Guy
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« Reply #254 on: January 21, 2015, 08:19:21 PM »

I was one of the individuals who supported the original thread staying up instead of being deleted. I look forward to reading more posts from you, Lorren. Is there something you can tell us that would let us know that you're the real Lorren Daro? Do you remember being at Beach Boys recording sessions in the 60's? I hear your name referred to in the Rhonda vocal session tape, and it sounds like you were a friend of Brian's and his assistant. I'm interested in finding out more about your experiences in the studio with Brian & The Boys.

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« Reply #255 on: January 21, 2015, 08:23:21 PM »

Well....tomorrow WILL be a very interesting day when the gents (and ladies) across the water wake up for their morning tea...    Nice well thought post/rebuttal Mr. Darro.   I have no commentary either way other than your original post of a couple days ago (if presented like this post) would have caused ALOT less furor/angst/and most of all less stress for ALL concerned.  And especially for the mods who truly do a GREAT job when things get out of hand.  I truly understand you have a lot of pent up anger and emotion relating to your past place in history in the BB story.  I get it.  Sure there will be those on the thread will lash out and not agree with your story, but keep on posting like you did this evening and I think you'll get more positive "good vibes" than the negatives. Sure to be a lot of emotion/commotion tomorrow on the thread.  I going to bed early  to get up early  to read what the pundits have to say.  Again thanks for reposting.    

                                            
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« Reply #256 on: January 21, 2015, 09:16:33 PM »

Glad to see you're back posting, Lorren.

I'm curious what years you were around for so we can better focus our questions for you. Did your time within Brian's scene extend to the Wild Honey or Friends time period at the Bellagio house (those years have always been hard to get much info on)?
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« Reply #257 on: January 21, 2015, 09:38:45 PM »

If this is the real Lorren Daro and I think it most probably is, we should respect him for Brian"s sake.

We should treat him well because he's a fellow human being.  Smiley

Welcome back Lorren!...Thank you for returning. I'm sorry for the way some of our forum members treated you.

I'm looking forward to hearing about your experiences.

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« Reply #258 on: January 21, 2015, 10:43:37 PM »

At least it seems he is willing to learn, as he toned down the insults in his new post. I can't understand though that he doesn't understand that name-calling affects his credibility:

Why so many of you dismiss what I have posted because of the tone of my writing is beyond my understanding. This is my personality, which has grown out the injustice I have seen and experienced in this world. Since my youth, morality has taken a dive in America. I object to that. I am a man of moral seriousness, which is the heritage of my race.

And Mr. Daro, what do you mean with "heritage of your race"?
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« Reply #259 on: January 21, 2015, 11:36:54 PM »

I respect Loren for stepping back into what he knows all too well is a very hostile arena. I also deeply apologise for spelling his surname incorrectly: for someone like me, famously picky/petty about this sort of thing, that's a major misstep on my part,

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« Reply #260 on: January 21, 2015, 11:49:12 PM »

I respect Loren for stepping back into what he knows all too well is a very hostile arena. I also deeply apologise for spelling his surname incorrectly: for someone like me, famously picky/petty about this sort of thing, that's a major misstep on my part,

I don't respect him for coming back in itself. I *do* respect him for coming back with a thorough, well written and non-abusive response, however. Had that been how the last thread began, we'd have had no problems in the first place.

For the sake of the people who wanted to hear more, I am glad you're back. I remain skeptical of many of your claims, but I *am* open to hearing more if they're as well spoken as that last post. I'm sorry for calling you a glorified drug hookup. I took offense at your harsh, black/white, not-tactful phraseology and gave it back to you. But if you're willing to continue to explain why you dislike the people you do in the same tactful, well-explained manner as that last post, I'm willing to listen with an open mind.
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« Reply #261 on: January 21, 2015, 11:57:54 PM »

coming back with a thorough, well written and non-abusive response, however. Had that been how the last thread began, we'd have had no problems in the first place.

Right.
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« Reply #262 on: January 22, 2015, 12:02:35 AM »

coming back with a thorough, well written and non-abusive response, however. Had that been how the last thread began, we'd have had no problems in the first place.

Right.

Agreed.

Great that this is back on track.  I hope we learn much that adds to the backstory of our favourite band.
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« Reply #263 on: January 22, 2015, 12:14:33 AM »

I agree that my initial posts were too full of anger. I’m sorry I didn’t calm down and moderate the tone. The anger is still there, but enough of you have objected that I now see your point. More with honey than vinegar, right? A lot of this has been pent up in me for years. Thanks for seeing through the dark clouds and urging me to change my approach. Never too late to learn…

Here are answers to posts I thought deserved one:

I moved to Big Sur and then Carmel Valley in 1969. After that, I cut all my ties to Hollywood, Brian included.

I believe ‘Smile’ wasn’t completed because of objections to it by both Mike Love and the record company, which refused to release it, even if it was completed. I agree with that decision. The music, and the lyrics written by VDP were great, but Brian’s contributions were ludicrous. I mean, “…I gotta eat my vege-tables.” Indeed…

As if this mattered: Cialis has practically no effect on sexual performance at a dose of 5mg, which is what I take. One needs 25mg at least to accomplish that. The drug comes in 5mg, 25mg, 50mg and 100mg versions. The 5mg helps open the prostate gland to make urination easier, and it allows me to avoid the brutal surgery required in order to fix the problem. If you watch a Cialis commercial, they clearly mention its use for prostate problems. I did post it in error. I don’t need to brag about my sex life, which, thankfully is somewhat normal considering my age. Such cynical people some of you are…

I was not at the ‘Rhonda’ sessions. I went to very few sessions other than that I was there for almost the entire run of sessions for ‘Pet Sounds’. I will say that I sat next to Brian on a plane from New York to LA while he wrote that song. I made no contributions to it. Sessions including Mike Love and the Boys were deliberately avoided by me. There was no purpose in doing that. My relationship was with Brian, not his band.

If I have it right, my years with Brian ran from1963, when I was their Tour Manager for a short while (until Mike drove me away screaming) until the end of 1966, when he moved to Bellagio Road. I visited him there once, where he played me some unfinished versions of “Good Vibrations” and “Smile” No vocals, just music. It sounded nice, but there was nothing to think about them.

As to “…the heritage of my race,” it refers to what Susan Sontag labeled the Jews as “The keepers of moral seriousness.” Jews take morality seriously (some, of course, do not), but the overwhelming heritage of Jewish culture with its philanthropy far exceeding the size of its population, the abundance of great Jewish artists, musicians, writers, scientists, financial experts, legal and educational scholars, and Nobel Prize winners speaks volumes about the sense of right and wrong which prevails in this small society. Jews are three percent of the U.S. population – think of their accomplishments in that light.

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« Reply #264 on: January 22, 2015, 12:30:20 AM »

I have a question:

I would like to post a photo of myself and a process for proving who I am -- since so many members are concerned about this. I tried to post the photo with some text using the 'Attachment' feature, but when I previewed the post, no photo was shown. Can you tell me how to post a Reply with a photo and some text. I don't want to post just the text, it's meaningless without the photo.

Thanks,

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« Reply #265 on: January 22, 2015, 12:42:24 AM »

I believe ‘Smile’ wasn’t completed because of objections to it by both Mike Love and the record company, which refused to release it, even if it was completed.

The available documented evidence - a memo stating that that Capitol wanted to release a truncated, 10-track version of Smile after they'd put Smiley Smile out - would argue strongly against this, as would Capitol's increasing desperation in trying to get Brian to finish the damn thing. Of course, it's entirely possible that once they heard it, they might not have released it, but... they released - OK, before someone picks me up, they distributed - Smiley Smile, and that may be the single weirdest album ever recorded by a band of the sixties.

As for Mike, as has been noted before, if he really disliked the songs that much, it would have been so much easier for him to just refuse to sing them. But he did, in some cases superbly (try singing his bass line on "Our Prayer": it's a complete bitch).

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I was not at the ‘Rhonda’ sessions.

Then who was Brian talking to when he asks someone called Loren to "get the others in" ? It's on the tape for the legendary Murry-interrupted vocal session. Mystery.

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If I have it right, my years with Brian ran from 1963, when I was their Tour Manager for a short while (until Mike drove me away screaming) until the end of 1966, when he moved to Bellagio Road.

Brian & Marilyn moved to the Bellagio house in April/May 1967 - Cam has a more exact date. I'm not being picky for the sake of it, just establishing an accurate timeline.

I would very much like to know where the notion that the family and/or band in some way influenced what was, and was not, in Brian's 1991 pseudobiography came from. At this point he was firmly under Landy's control and estranged from both. I'd suggest that whoever told you that was being inventive.

I fully appreciate you may not want to respond to me, but the latter question intrigues.
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« Reply #266 on: January 22, 2015, 12:46:07 AM »

I have a question:

I would like to post a photo of myself and a process for proving who I am -- since so many members are concerned about this. I tried to post the photo with some text using the 'Attachment' feature, but when I previewed the post, no photo was shown. Can you tell me how to post a Reply with a photo and some text. I don't want to post just the text, it's meaningless without the photo.

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« Reply #267 on: January 22, 2015, 12:49:32 AM »

I have a question:

I would like to post a photo of myself and a process for proving who I am -- since so many members are concerned about this. I tried to post the photo with some text using the 'Attachment' feature, but when I previewed the post, no photo was shown. Can you tell me how to post a Reply with a photo and some text. I don't want to post just the text, it's meaningless without the photo.

Thanks,

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There's an "insert image" function in the reply box - 2nd row of icons, 2nd left, below the I - but said image has to be online somewhere first as it's the url that needs to be inserted.
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« Reply #268 on: January 22, 2015, 12:50:16 AM »

I too don't want to seem like I'm nitpicking but I asked your timeline because about a year ago I sent an email to you after reading your essay and in your reply to me you said you lost contact with Brian when Dr Landy arrive on the scene, you said there was no more you could do for Brian at that point. Now your saying you cut you contacts at the end of the smile period.
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« Reply #269 on: January 22, 2015, 12:50:49 AM »

Thank you for answering my question about the race issue. Unlike the common view in my country used to be 80 years ago, I do not see Jews being a "race" any different from my own, just a different cultural background. Personally I think we had more than enough of this "race" nonsense, that's why I was confused by someone bringing up that word.
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« Reply #270 on: January 22, 2015, 01:34:34 AM »

I have a question:

I would like to post a photo of myself and a process for proving who I am -- since so many members are concerned about this. I tried to post the photo with some text using the 'Attachment' feature, but when I previewed the post, no photo was shown. Can you tell me how to post a Reply with a photo and some text. I don't want to post just the text, it's meaningless without the photo.

Thanks,

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Yeah, the attachment option is not very usefull. It's very limited when it comes to kB's, and even when you use a low-res picture, it often results in arror-messages. Sorry.

Depending on where you'd like to post it; ff you'd like to add a picture in a reply, the best way is to upload it, is with www.tinypic.com and copy-paste the url (like halblaineisgood just advised)

If you'd like to add a picture to your profile (an avatar), you can do so by going to your personal settings (Profile info > Forum Profile Information). You can either copy-paste an url link, or directly upload a picture (the last option does require a picture of max. 20kb only)

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« Reply #271 on: January 22, 2015, 03:15:55 AM »

This is so interesting!  Some of you have questions regarding exact dates/times etc?  You obviously know your stuff, but how often does a fan know more about the details of their idol than the idol themselves does?  How often does someone remember what month they moved house, let alone when an acquaintance did?  Would I remember what month one of my friends moved house 20 years ago?  Not a chance. A lot of people here know the details of recording sessions etc because they have studied it, researched it and live and breathe it,  you probably know way more than Brian does about it.  Not saying Loren is right or wrong....     Again this is so interesting!!! Smiley
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« Reply #272 on: January 22, 2015, 03:44:22 AM »

This is so interesting!  Some of you have questions regarding exact dates/times etc?  You obviously know your stuff, but how often does a fan know more about the details of their idol than the idol themselves does? 

You'd be surprised. One of the band - no names, no pack drill - was, until someone played him the album in question, convinced that a certain song was never released - which it was - and swore black was white that he didn't sing the lead on it - which he did.

Now, personal, day-to-day life details... that's something else. No, of course we don't.
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« Reply #273 on: January 22, 2015, 03:50:39 AM »

That's exactly what I mean AGD! Smiley  Fans oftentimes know more.  I wonder if Brian would remember when he moved to Bellagio?   Day to day life details?  Fans wouldn't know and Idols wouldn't remember Smiley
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« Reply #274 on: January 22, 2015, 04:00:15 AM »

One of the band - no names, no pack drill - was, until someone played him the album in question, convinced that a certain song was never released - which it was - and swore black was white that he didn't sing the lead on it - which he did.

Let's see... which one is known for having a REALLY bad memory on such things... that of course is no other than... Grin
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