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« Reply #575 on: January 29, 2015, 09:31:20 AM »

Things I learned from this thread

Lorren Daro takes Cialis.
Lorren has festered a nasty, irrantional hatred for Marilyn for 50 years.
Through the lyrics of Mike Love, Brian wrote Good Vibrations for Lorren's wife.
For an under educated, working class square from Hawthorne, Al Jardine was okay.
Lorren is chickenshit to say anything about Mike Love.
People can be the reason other people get divorced from their wives, even if they haven't seen each other for over 12 years.
Like 99.999999% of the population, Lorren doesn't know who David Marks is.
A 2 year old child getting clubbed round the head with a 2x4 with only make the child half deaf and not, as you'd expect, send them on a one way trip to the morgue.
Lorren will do anything for a dear friend except wish to see them again if they start showing signs of a stress induced breakdown.
Lorren sweats a lot when in LA.
Lorren will make zero attempt to engage Brian Wilson in conversation when both men are on the board at the same time.

Not to beat a dead horse too much, but yeah that about sums it up.

I tried giving him another chance when he came back, but the man said absolutely nothing of value whatsoever and had a nasty, bitter attitude to boot. Some will lament the loss, after all he was "there" and apparently that's all that matters no matter how awful of a person or unreliable a witness you are, but all in all...no great loss.

*Cue buddhahat and others blasting me and acting like it's the end of Smiley Smile as we know it*
Whether you believe that what he says is bullshit, or not liking his tone, anyone whose is researching that point in history needs to hear what he has to say. To simply ignore him would do the history an injustice. You listen to what he has to say, then compare it to what others have stated to determine its validity.
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As We Also Have Forgiven Our Wife And Managers,
And Lead Us Not Into Kokomo,
But Deliver Us From Mike Love.
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« Reply #576 on: January 29, 2015, 09:34:43 AM »

Things I learned from this thread

Lorren Daro takes Cialis.
Lorren has festered a nasty, irrantional hatred for Marilyn for 50 years.
Through the lyrics of Mike Love, Brian wrote Good Vibrations for Lorren's wife.
For an under educated, working class square from Hawthorne, Al Jardine was okay.
Lorren is chickenshit to say anything about Mike Love.
People can be the reason other people get divorced from their wives, even if they haven't seen each other for over 12 years.
Like 99.999999% of the population, Lorren doesn't know who David Marks is.
A 2 year old child getting clubbed round the head with a 2x4 with only make the child half deaf and not, as you'd expect, send them on a one way trip to the morgue.
Lorren will do anything for a dear friend except wish to see them again if they start showing signs of a stress induced breakdown.
Lorren sweats a lot when in LA.
Lorren will make zero attempt to engage Brian Wilson in conversation when both men are on the board at the same time.

Not to beat a dead horse too much, but yeah that about sums it up.

I tried giving him another chance when he came back, but the man said absolutely nothing of value whatsoever and had a nasty, bitter attitude to boot. Some will lament the loss, after all he was "there" and apparently that's all that matters no matter how awful of a person or unreliable a witness you are, but all in all...no great loss.

*Cue buddhahat and others blasting me and acting like it's the end of Smiley Smile as we know it*
Whether you believe that what he says is bullshit, or not liking his tone, anyone whose is researching that point in history needs to hear what he has to say. To simply ignore him would do the history an injustice. You listen to what he has to say, then compare it to what others have stated to determine its validity.

I have. I'm not impressed. AGD did a wonderful job pointing out the inaccuracies and contradictions, as did others. I didn't try to shut him up or chase him away, but if he's gonna leave just because he wasn't 100% venerated by everyone, then I say nothing of value was lost.
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« Reply #577 on: January 29, 2015, 09:54:37 AM »

Everyone in the BB camp should toss AGD a bone. Once he's on your side he's a bulldog.
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« Reply #578 on: January 29, 2015, 09:55:20 AM »

Things I learned from this thread

Lorren Daro takes Cialis.
Lorren has festered a nasty, irrantional hatred for Marilyn for 50 years.
Through the lyrics of Mike Love, Brian wrote Good Vibrations for Lorren's wife.
For an under educated, working class square from Hawthorne, Al Jardine was okay.
Lorren is chickenshit to say anything about Mike Love.
People can be the reason other people get divorced from their wives, even if they haven't seen each other for over 12 years.
Like 99.999999% of the population, Lorren doesn't know who David Marks is.
A 2 year old child getting clubbed round the head with a 2x4 with only make the child half deaf and not, as you'd expect, send them on a one way trip to the morgue.
Lorren will do anything for a dear friend except wish to see them again if they start showing signs of a stress induced breakdown.
Lorren sweats a lot when in LA.
Lorren will make zero attempt to engage Brian Wilson in conversation when both men are on the board at the same time.

Not to beat a dead horse too much, but yeah that about sums it up.

I tried giving him another chance when he came back, but the man said absolutely nothing of value whatsoever and had a nasty, bitter attitude to boot. Some will lament the loss, after all he was "there" and apparently that's all that matters no matter how awful of a person or unreliable a witness you are, but all in all...no great loss.

*Cue buddhahat and others blasting me and acting like it's the end of Smiley Smile as we know it*
Whether you believe that what he says is bullshit, or not liking his tone, anyone whose is researching that point in history needs to hear what he has to say. To simply ignore him would do the history an injustice. You listen to what he has to say, then compare it to what others have stated to determine its validity.

I have. I'm not impressed. AGD did a wonderful job pointing out the inaccuracies and contradictions, as did others. I didn't try to shut him up or chase him away, but if he's gonna leave just because he wasn't 100% venerated by everyone, then I say nothing of value was lost.
I agree. He has had his say, now the time has come to validate. While I can understand him being confused on dates, I cannot understand why he would come here ill-prepared. If someone is looking to vindicate themselves, they should make sure of the facts before presenting them.
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And Lead Us Not Into Kokomo,
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« Reply #579 on: January 29, 2015, 09:58:22 AM »




I tried giving him another chance when he came back, but the man said absolutely nothing of value whatsoever and had a nasty, bitter attitude to boot. Some will lament the loss, after all he was "there" and apparently that's all that matters no matter how awful of a person or unreliable a witness you are, but all in all...no great loss.

*Cue buddhahat and others blasting me and acting like it's the end of Smiley Smile as we know it*


Please don't 'cue' me. It's a fairly transparent preemptive strike that won't stop me responding to your idiotic posts.

So let me understand the situation here: the guy has bowed out of the thread due, in no small part, to your relentless thread crapping. Rather than being satisfied with this outcome you feel it necessary to continue to insult him? What exactly is the point of this other than getting the last word in with that nauseatingly self-important 'summing-up' that seems to be one of your signatures?

And you 'tried giving him another chance' Huh?!

How exactly? By asking him your psychedelic sounds question, then having a go at him because he had the gaul not to answer ...... after you insulted him?!

This is exactly the type of insanity I referred to earlier. You single-handedly make a terrific case for this board to adopt the 'ignore' function.

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« Reply #580 on: January 29, 2015, 10:10:17 AM »




I tried giving him another chance when he came back, but the man said absolutely nothing of value whatsoever and had a nasty, bitter attitude to boot. Some will lament the loss, after all he was "there" and apparently that's all that matters no matter how awful of a person or unreliable a witness you are, but all in all...no great loss.

*Cue buddhahat and others blasting me and acting like it's the end of Smiley Smile as we know it*


Please don't 'cue' me. It's a fairly transparent preemptive strike that won't stop me responding to your idiotic posts.

So let me understand the situation here: the guy has bowed out of the thread due, in no small part, to your relentless thread crapping. Rather than being satisfied with this outcome you feel it necessary to continue to insult him? What exactly is the point of this other than getting the last word in with that nauseatingly self-important 'summing-up' that seems to be one of your signatures?

And you 'tried to give him a another chance' Huh?!

How exactly? By asking him your psychedelic sounds question, then having a go at him because he had the gaul not to answer ...... after you insulted him?!

This is exactly the type of insanity I referred to earlier. You single-handedly make a terrific case for this board to adopt the 'ignore' function.



Funny enough, that ignore button was actually my idea LOL

You seem to conveniently forget that your friend Daro insulted myself, AGD, and just about everyone in the BB universe, but I guess that's ok because he was "there" right?

I only "cued" you because you've been the guy's self-appointed body guard since this whole bizarre situation began. You did not disappoint. Not sure what you see in him considering he offered no worthwhile info. I guess at this point, it's a pride thing?

I said numerous times I didn't actually want him to leave. I said nothing particularly mean or uncalled for, especially considering he called me a "mindless prick" behind my back. Again, funny how a man who spews so much vitriol can take so little.

Yes, I did actually. I aapologize for some of what I had said earlier and said I was glad he came back. And he proceeded to prove that my initial read on him was right on the money.

Sorry your buddy couldn't take the proverbial heat. He brought it on himself.
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« Reply #581 on: January 29, 2015, 10:15:36 AM »

Lorren is chickenshit to say anything about Mike Love.

I'd be chickenshit too if I were the slightest bit concerned about being sued for libel. Mike Love has a track record.
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« Reply #582 on: January 29, 2015, 10:21:07 AM »


Funny enough, that ignore button was actually my idea LOL



No it wasn't, but ironic that you should suggest it.
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« Reply #583 on: January 29, 2015, 10:23:03 AM »

Whether you believe that what he says is bullshit, or not liking his tone, anyone whose is researching that point in history needs to hear what he has to say. To simply ignore him would do the history an injustice. You listen to what he has to say, then compare it to what others have stated to determine its validity.

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« Reply #584 on: January 29, 2015, 10:48:27 AM »

Everyone in the BB camp should toss AGD a bone. Once he's on your side he's a bulldog.

My "side" is that of accuracy & documentation. When someone says, here of all places, "of course you know Dennis only played on the earliest songs", that loud thump you hear is their credibility hitting the floor. Before anyone says it, no one chased him away: he elected to depart rather than stay and face having his stories held up to the light. Nothing new was contributed. The "salon" stuff... it was a drug house, pure and simple.

As for someone resurrecting a five year old post with which to berate me... really ?  If you have to resort to that, you're grasping at straws passing on the breeze.
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« Reply #585 on: January 29, 2015, 11:00:22 AM »

Everyone in the BB camp should toss AGD a bone. Once he's on your side he's a bulldog.

My "side" is that of accuracy & documentation. When someone says, here of all places, "of course you know Dennis only played on the earliest songs", that loud thump you hear is their credibility hitting the floor. Before anyone says it, no one chased him away: he elected to depart rather than stay and face having his stories held up to the light. Nothing new was contributed. The "salon" stuff... it was a drug house, pure and simple.

As for someone resurrecting a five year old post with which to berate me... really ?  If you have to resort to that, you're grasping at straws passing on the breeze.

It was completely relevant as evidence of the brainless knee-jerk prejudice (mostly your own) I immediately encountered on this board post beautiful dreamer. Your anti-drugs schtick is narrow-minded, bewildering and undermines your own credibility. For me at least - Clearly not for all the other AGD flag wavers. Still staggered by the 'appearance' comments. But keep us posted Columbo.
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« Reply #586 on: January 29, 2015, 11:05:45 AM »

Everyone in the BB camp should toss AGD a bone. Once he's on your side he's a bulldog.

My "side" is that of accuracy & documentation. When someone says, here of all places, "of course you know Dennis only played on the earliest songs", that loud thump you hear is their credibility hitting the floor. Before anyone says it, no one chased him away: he elected to depart rather than stay and face having his stories held up to the light. Nothing new was contributed. The "salon" stuff... it was a drug house, pure and simple.

As for someone resurrecting a five year old post with which to berate me... really ?  If you have to resort to that, you're grasping at straws passing on the breeze.

It was completely relevant as evidence of the brainless knee-jerk prejudice (mostly your own) I immediately encountered on this board post beautiful dreamer. Your anti-drugs schtick is narrow-minded and bewildering and undermines your own credibility. For me at least. Still staggered by the 'appearance' comments. But keep us posted Columbo.



I've tripped 7 times, all amazing experiences, and Daro's interview, general demeanor, outright refusal to concede that Brian himself considered it a negative experience, pride at driving a wedge between a husband and wife, etc all rubbed *me* the wrong way too. Go figure.
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« Reply #587 on: January 29, 2015, 11:30:01 AM »

Everyone in the BB camp should toss AGD a bone. Once he's on your side he's a bulldog.

My "side" is that of accuracy & documentation. When someone says, here of all places, "of course you know Dennis only played on the earliest songs", that loud thump you hear is their credibility hitting the floor. Before anyone says it, no one chased him away: he elected to depart rather than stay and face having his stories held up to the light. Nothing new was contributed. The "salon" stuff... it was a drug house, pure and simple.

As for someone resurrecting a five year old post with which to berate me... really ?  If you have to resort to that, you're grasping at straws passing on the breeze.

It was completely relevant as evidence of the brainless knee-jerk prejudice (mostly your own) I immediately encountered on this board post beautiful dreamer. Your anti-drugs schtick is narrow-minded and bewildering and undermines your own credibility. For me at least. Still staggered by the 'appearance' comments. But keep us posted Columbo.



I've tripped 7 times, all amazing experiences, and Daro's interview, general demeanor, outright refusal to concede that Brian himself considered it a negative experience, pride at driving a wedge between a husband and wife, etc all rubbed *me* the wrong way too. Go figure.
I was rubbed the wrong way with just about all of it, but I thought that that didn't matter. What mattered was if what he was saying was true or not. Daro's pov is just that and whether we like or not, need to accept it. No one says we had to like it. At least we now have it and we know where he stands. Now, it is fact check time.
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« Reply #588 on: January 29, 2015, 11:34:26 AM »

Everyone in the BB camp should toss AGD a bone. Once he's on your side he's a bulldog.

My "side" is that of accuracy & documentation. When someone says, here of all places, "of course you know Dennis only played on the earliest songs", that loud thump you hear is their credibility hitting the floor. Before anyone says it, no one chased him away: he elected to depart rather than stay and face having his stories held up to the light. Nothing new was contributed. The "salon" stuff... it was a drug house, pure and simple.

As for someone resurrecting a five year old post with which to berate me... really ?  If you have to resort to that, you're grasping at straws passing on the breeze.

It was completely relevant as evidence of the brainless knee-jerk prejudice (mostly your own) I immediately encountered on this board post beautiful dreamer. Your anti-drugs schtick is narrow-minded and bewildering and undermines your own credibility. For me at least. Still staggered by the 'appearance' comments. But keep us posted Columbo.



I've tripped 7 times, all amazing experiences, and Daro's interview, general demeanor, outright refusal to concede that Brian himself considered it a negative experience, pride at driving a wedge between a husband and wife, etc all rubbed *me* the wrong way too. Go figure.
I was rubbed the wrong way with just about all of it, but I thought that that didn't matter. What mattered was if what he was saying was true or not. Daro's pov is just that and whether we like or not, need to accept it. No one says we had to like it. At least we now have it and we know where he stands. Now, it is fact check time.

AGD has done a fantastic job proving his account is just as faulty from a reliability standpoint as a morality one. We let him say his say, I'm glad we got it, but just because he was "there" doesn't mean his story is worth much.
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« Reply #589 on: January 29, 2015, 11:43:55 AM »

Everyone in the BB camp should toss AGD a bone. Once he's on your side he's a bulldog.

My "side" is that of accuracy & documentation. When someone says, here of all places, "of course you know Dennis only played on the earliest songs", that loud thump you hear is their credibility hitting the floor. Before anyone says it, no one chased him away: he elected to depart rather than stay and face having his stories held up to the light. Nothing new was contributed. The "salon" stuff... it was a drug house, pure and simple.

As for someone resurrecting a five year old post with which to berate me... really ?  If you have to resort to that, you're grasping at straws passing on the breeze.

It was completely relevant as evidence of the brainless knee-jerk prejudice (mostly your own) I immediately encountered on this board post beautiful dreamer. Your anti-drugs schtick is narrow-minded and bewildering and undermines your own credibility. For me at least. Still staggered by the 'appearance' comments. But keep us posted Columbo.



I've tripped 7 times, all amazing experiences, and Daro's interview, general demeanor, outright refusal to concede that Brian himself considered it a negative experience, pride at driving a wedge between a husband and wife, etc all rubbed *me* the wrong way too. Go figure.
I was rubbed the wrong way with just about all of it, but I thought that that didn't matter. What mattered was if what he was saying was true or not. Daro's pov is just that and whether we like or not, need to accept it. No one says we had to like it. At least we now have it and we know where he stands. Now, it is fact check time.

AGD has done a fantastic job proving his account is just as faulty from a reliability standpoint as a morality one. We let him say his say, I'm glad we got it, but just because he was "there" doesn't mean his story is worth much.
Well, if nothing else we got a bit about his personal relationship with Brian. It just amazed me that he really didn't like anyone but Al in the Beach Boys sphere. He trashed Murry, Mike and Marilyn. Seems he didn't think much of Carl or Dennis either. No wonder there was all this animosity over all these years.
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« Reply #592 on: January 29, 2015, 12:25:08 PM »

Seriously, I respect the fact that Lorren blunted his attack somewhat in this second thread, and although I took most of what he said with a grain of salt, I was hoping for a few nuggets of new, relevant information as his recollection improved.

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« Reply #593 on: January 29, 2015, 12:25:24 PM »

Everyone in the BB camp should toss AGD a bone. Once he's on your side he's a bulldog.

My "side" is that of accuracy & documentation. When someone says, here of all places, "of course you know Dennis only played on the earliest songs", that loud thump you hear is their credibility hitting the floor. Before anyone says it, no one chased him away: he elected to depart rather than stay and face having his stories held up to the light. Nothing new was contributed. The "salon" stuff... it was a drug house, pure and simple.

As for someone resurrecting a five year old post with which to berate me... really ?  If you have to resort to that, you're grasping at straws passing on the breeze.

It was completely relevant as evidence of the brainless knee-jerk prejudice (mostly your own) I immediately encountered on this board post beautiful dreamer. Your anti-drugs schtick is narrow-minded, bewildering and undermines your own credibility. For me at least - Clearly not for all the other AGD flag wavers. Still staggered by the 'appearance' comments. But keep us posted Columbo.

Was he an active participant in the thread at the time? You fail to see the stark contrast between the two.
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« Reply #594 on: January 29, 2015, 12:28:38 PM »

Everyone in the BB camp should toss AGD a bone. Once he's on your side he's a bulldog.

My "side" is that of accuracy & documentation. When someone says, here of all places, "of course you know Dennis only played on the earliest songs", that loud thump you hear is their credibility hitting the floor. Before anyone says it, no one chased him away: he elected to depart rather than stay and face having his stories held up to the light. Nothing new was contributed. The "salon" stuff... it was a drug house, pure and simple.

As for someone resurrecting a five year old post with which to berate me... really ?  If you have to resort to that, you're grasping at straws passing on the breeze.

It was completely relevant as evidence of the brainless knee-jerk prejudice (mostly your own) I immediately encountered on this board post beautiful dreamer. Your anti-drugs schtick is narrow-minded, bewildering and undermines your own credibility. For me at least - Clearly not for all the other AGD flag wavers. Still staggered by the 'appearance' comments. But keep us posted Columbo.

Was he an active participant in the thread at the time? You fail to see the stark contrast between the two.

I thought the whole point of this thread was to crucify people for past actions  angel
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« Reply #595 on: January 29, 2015, 01:56:28 PM »

Lorren is chickenshit to say anything about Mike Love.

I'd be chickenshit too if I were the slightest bit concerned about being sued for libel. Mike Love has a track record.
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« Reply #596 on: January 29, 2015, 02:05:38 PM »

Thank you, Lorren. It's clear that your involvement with Brian was pivotal to a series of events that led to great achievements/efforts--and, most unfortunately, a series of difficult times that only got worse because the folks who tried to get him "help" in the 70s were either callous, indifferent, or way out of their depth. No one in their right mind can possibly blame you for what went down in the years after your friendship with Brian came to an end. And no one should now still hold the misguided notion that Brian's initial LSD trip is the trigger for his downfall.

Thank you, Lee Dempsey, for reading through this torturous thread--where several otherwise capable and intelligent folks have sullied their own reputations far more than they have succeeded at character assasination--and recognizing that despite his (occasionally very) rough edges, Lorren is someone who should be allowed to speak his mind without being constantly hounded by the so-called "fact police."

I think the most surprising aspect of this thread is the fact that no one (including yours truly) thought to ask Lorren about his observations concerning the odd "triangle" relationship between Brian, Marilyn and Diane. That is a dynamic that is worth exploring from several directions--unless, of course, it might offend those folk who want to wave away the possibility that a flawed marriage was in any way a factor in Brian's ongoing difficulties. The inner world of the BBs in these years was already a tangled web, to be sure, and we may never know all of the details that contributed to how things played out, no matter how obsessive any of us might become in pursuit of them.
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« Reply #597 on: January 29, 2015, 02:10:47 PM »

Thank you, Lorren. It's clear that your involvement with Brian was pivotal to a series of events that led to great achievements/efforts--and, most unfortunately, a series of difficult times that only got worse because the folks who tried to get him "help" in the 70s were either callous, indifferent, or way out of their depth. No one in their right mind can possibly blame you for what went down in the years after your friendship with Brian came to an end. And no one should now still hold the misguided notion that Brian's initial LSD trip is the trigger for his downfall.

Thank you, Lee Dempsey, for reading through this torturous thread--where several otherwise capable and intelligent folks have sullied their own reputations far more than they have succeeded at character assasination--and recognizing that despite his (occasionally very) rough edges, Lorren is someone who should be allowed to speak his mind without being constantly hounded by the so-called "fact police."

I think the most surprising aspect of this thread is the fact that no one (including yours truly) thought to ask Lorren about his observations concerning the odd "triangle" relationship between Brian, Marilyn and Diane. That is a dynamic that is worth exploring from several directions--unless, of course, it might offend those folk who want to wave away the possibility that a flawed marriage was in any way a factor in Brian's ongoing difficulties. The inner world of the BBs in these years was already a tangled web, to be sure, and we may never know all of the details that contributed to how things played out, no matter how obsessive any of us might become in pursuit of them.

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« Reply #598 on: January 29, 2015, 02:13:05 PM »

Seriously, I respect the fact that Lorren blunted his attack somewhat in this second thread, and I was hoping for a few nuggets of new information as his recollection improved.

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« Reply #599 on: January 29, 2015, 02:33:27 PM »

Thank you, Lorren. It's clear that your involvement with Brian was pivotal to a series of events that led to great achievements/efforts--and, most unfortunately, a series of difficult times that only got worse because the folks who tried to get him "help" in the 70s were either callous, indifferent, or way out of their depth. No one in their right mind can possibly blame you for what went down in the years after your friendship with Brian came to an end. And no one should now still hold the misguided notion that Brian's initial LSD trip is the trigger for his downfall.

Thank you, Lee Dempsey, for reading through this torturous thread--where several otherwise capable and intelligent folks have sullied their own reputations far more than they have succeeded at character assasination--and recognizing that despite his (occasionally very) rough edges, Lorren is someone who should be allowed to speak his mind without being constantly hounded by the so-called "fact police."

I think the most surprising aspect of this thread is the fact that no one (including yours truly) thought to ask Lorren about his observations concerning the odd "triangle" relationship between Brian, Marilyn and Diane. That is a dynamic that is worth exploring from several directions--unless, of course, it might offend those folk who want to wave away the possibility that a flawed marriage was in any way a factor in Brian's ongoing difficulties. The inner world of the BBs in these years was already a tangled web, to be sure, and we may never know all of the details that contributed to how things played out, no matter how obsessive any of us might become in pursuit of them.
Just a hunch but I think you will find that those closest to Brian, have a great deal MORE respect now for those that "hounded" Lorren. "Fact police" or as I refer to them "truth seekers" are welcome anytime in my world! I prefer the truth as opposed, to bloated, self-indulgent and factual incorrect fallacy.
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