Mike Love memoir due 2016

[Andrew G. Doe]

Amazing..

It's going to be ripped to shreds on this board.

But of course. Whether it deserves it or not. 

Eh, my bad - it's already being torn apart some eighteen months before anyone here has read so much as a single word.

[Nicko1234]

Interesting news.

A shame Al has never written a book though as I think he might have the most interesting story to tell (the guy surrounded by the madness).

[Andrew G. Doe]

Actually, Alan's been the wildest of all. Why do you think he moved out to Big Sur so many years ago ? No prying eyes. The tales I've heard of what really went on in the Red Barn... 

[Lowbacca]

Actually, Alan's been the wildest of all. Why do you think he moved out to Big Sur so many years ago ? No prying eyes. The tales I've heard of what really went on in the Red Barn... 

The reasons for it being the Red Barn.....?

[phirnis]

Actually, Alan's been the wildest of all. Why do you think he moved out to Big Sur so many years ago ? No prying eyes. The tales I've heard of what really went on in the Red Barn... 

Teeth not brushed for two days straight one particularly crazy week in 1981.

[Andrew G. Doe]

Actually, Alan's been the wildest of all. Why do you think he moved out to Big Sur so many years ago ? No prying eyes. The tales I've heard of what really went on in the Red Barn... 

The reasons for it being the Red Barn.....?

Best ask Maria Martin...

[Cabinessenceking]

I want to hear how he handles the 1967-1974 period. He was being a hippie at that point and doing joints onstage. I hope he really covers this period because he has never said anything about it as far as I'm aware. His 'lost years' perhaps?

[J.G. Dev]

Do author's still do book store signings? I ask the question because it seems there are hardly anymore book stores in existence. Mike could hit a lot of cities tying in a book tour with his regular one.

Oh, and I'll go on record now saying that the forward will be written by John Stamos.

[Sheriff John Stone]

Amazing..

It's going to be ripped to shreds on this board.

But of course. Whether it deserves it or not. 

Eh, my bad - it's already being torn apart some eighteen months before anyone here has read so much as a single word.

Exactly.

Speculate on Brian's upcoming album - God forbid you say a single critical word - how dare you speculate when you haven't heard a single note! Then you hear a single note - 8 or 9 seconds to be exact - and speculate after hearing that, no, you can't do that! And then there's the Love And Mercy movie. Want to comment on that? Nope, not until you see it. But, Mike's Book? Go ahead, speculate and criticize away! It's OK. Hypocrisy reigns again.

Hey Jude, this is an early Christmas present for you. Happy Holidays!

[Magic Transistor Radio]

I for one am excited about this. O don't care if Mike has an agenda, is defensive, etc. I want to hear his side of the story. There is not much more we can learn about Brian at this point. And we have a couple of books on Dennis and one on Dave. I have loved each and every one of them. It's interesting, because we learn something new from every angle. At this point I am mostly interested in this book and one on Carl! Al and Bruce would be great too. Maybe even anyone who has been around the band for a long time (Stephen Desper, Bill Hinche, Jeff Foskett, Marilyn Wilson!!!, etc)

[Fire Wind]

Looking forward to this, less so for Brian's book.

It'll be interesting to see if the book gets a co-credit, as in "by Mike Love, with X", or if he goes the route of ghostwriter.

It says he'll be assisted by James S. Hirsch.

[rab2591]

I'm having trouble finding any posts here that are tearing this book apart. How one can compare the posts in this thread to people claiming Brian can't write a great song anymore, or that he's a sellout, or that he has no chance of getting on the radio again, or that his management is delusional, etc etc, is beyond me.

As for the book, I'm glad it's coming out. I have to agree with other posters that I hope Mike really delves into the late-60s, early 70s period. It'll also be great to read about his perspective of the C50 ending.

[Niko]

Amazing..

It's going to be ripped to shreds on this board.

But of course. Whether it deserves it or not. 

Eh, my bad - it's already being torn apart some eighteen months before anyone here has read so much as a single word.

Exactly.

Speculate on Brian's upcoming album - God forbid you say a single critical word - how dare you speculate when you haven't heard a single note! Then you hear a single note - 8 or 9 seconds to be exact - and speculate after hearing that, no, you can't do that! And then there's the Love And Mercy movie. Want to comment on that? Nope, not until you see it. But, Mike's Book? Go ahead, speculate and criticize away! It's OK. Hypocrisy reigns again.

Brian Wilson's Musical Album - genius composer who's created some of the most beautiful music in existence.
Mike Love's Book - the majority of his interviews are about the same couple points - naming the drug-using Wilson brothers, talking about his lyrics, and Back in the USSR. I don't think anyone here has gone overboard in criticizing the book...the man has said and done a lot of stupid stuff, and its normal to wonder what the book is gonna be like. Does that mean no one wants it to be good? No...

Basically - there are very different points of reference for discussing these two things.

Do you really not see the difference here, and why these two things are treated differently?

There's a strange feeling about Brian Wilson perpetuated by posts like yours that I'm starting to see constantly - sarcasm in response to posters trying to reasonably discuss the new album, and I really don't understand it. If anyone has a good idea why this is happening, I'd like to know. I figured a year ago when the new album was first being discussed that everyone would unanimously be happy, simply for the fact that we're getting more music...but that has not been the case once for the last year. I guess it's just a weird Smiley Smile thing?

[Theydon Bois]

It says he'll be assisted by James S. Hirsch.

... whose book about Rubin "Hurricane" Carter contends that its subject was innocent of all charges levelled against him.  I wonder if this will prove some sort of precedent.

[bgas]

It says he'll be assisted by James S. Hirsch.

... whose book about Rubin "Hurricane" Carter contends that its subject was innocent of all charges levelled against him.  I wonder if this will prove some sort of precedent.

Well, obviously he was innocent!  EVERYONE in prison is innocent, just ask them

[The LEGENDARY OSD]

Amazing..

It's going to be ripped to shreds on this board.

But of course. Whether it deserves it or not.  
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Eh, my bad - it's already being torn apart some eighteen months before anyone here has read so much as a single word.

Exactly.

Speculate on Brian's upcoming album - God forbid you say a single critical word - how dare you speculate when you haven't heard a single note! Then you hear a single note - 8 or 9 seconds to be exact - and speculate after hearing that, no, you can't do that! And then there's the Love And Mercy movie. Want to comment on that? Nope, not until you see it. But, Mike's Book? Go ahead, speculate and criticize away! It's OK. Hypocrisy reigns again.

Brian Wilson's Musical Album - genius composer who's created some of the most beautiful music in existence.
Mike Love's Book - the majority of his interviews are about the same couple points - naming the drug-using Wilson brothers, talking about his lyrics, and Back in the USSR. I don't think anyone here has gone overboard in criticizing the book...the man has said and done a lot of stupid stuff, and its normal to wonder what the book is gonna be like. Does that mean no one wants it to be good? No...

Basically - there are very different points of reference for discussing these two things.

Do you really not see the difference here, and why these two things are treated differently?

There's a strange feeling about Brian Wilson perpetuated by posts like yours that I'm starting to see constantly - sarcasm in response to posters trying to reasonably discuss the new album, and I really don't understand it. If anyone has a good idea why this is happening, I'd like to know. I figured a year ago when the new album was first being discussed that everyone would unanimously be happy, simply for the fact that we're getting more music...but that has not been the case once for the last year. I guess it's just a weird Smiley Smile thing?

[ThyRavenAscend]

sh*t is going to get real on the board once this comes out.

 

[Nicko1234]

Brian Wilson's Musical Album - genius composer who's created some of the most beautiful music in existence.
Mike Love's Book - the majority of his interviews are about the same couple points - naming the drug-using Wilson brothers, talking about his lyrics, and Back in the USSR. I don't think anyone here has gone overboard in criticizing the book...the man has said and done a lot of stupid stuff, and its normal to wonder what the book is gonna be like. Does that mean no one wants it to be good? No...

Basically - there are very different points of reference for discussing these two things.

Do you really not see the difference here, and why these two things are treated differently?

There's a strange feeling about Brian Wilson perpetuated by posts like yours that I'm starting to see constantly - sarcasm in response to posters trying to reasonably discuss the new album, and I really don't understand it. If anyone has a good idea why this is happening, I'd like to know. I figured a year ago when the new album was first being discussed that everyone would unanimously be happy, simply for the fact that we're getting more music...but that has not been the case once for the last year. I guess it's just a weird Smiley Smile thing?

Something of a contradiction there...

And the idea that any message board for any musician has fans who are unanimously happy about any forthcoming project is patently false. You will always get discussions about how good or bad it may be, whether they are using the right producer, how promising the song titles are etc.

The only weird thing about this board is that some people think it is unique to here. 

[Rocker]

Now it's going to get real ugly..... 


I'd imagine something like this 
What's your guess?

Chapter 1: Growing up in Surf City
Chapter 2: Let's go surfin' now
Chapter 3: Fun, fun, fun all summer long
Chapter 4: Meeting all those California girls
Chapter 5: Good and bad vibrations
Chapter 6: - nothing happened here -
Chapter 7: Endless summer
Chapter 8: Kokomo
Chapter 9: Keepin' the summer alive

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

Amazing..

It's going to be ripped to shreds on this board.

But of course. Whether it deserves it or not.  

Eh, my bad - it's already being torn apart some eighteen months before anyone here has read so much as a single word.

Exactly.

Speculate on Brian's upcoming album - God forbid you say a single critical word - how dare you speculate when you haven't heard a single note! Then you hear a single note - 8 or 9 seconds to be exact - and speculate after hearing that, no, you can't do that! And then there's the Love And Mercy movie. Want to comment on that? Nope, not until you see it. But, Mike's Book? Go ahead, speculate and criticize away! It's OK. Hypocrisy reigns again.

Brian Wilson's Musical Album - genius composer who's created some of the most beautiful music in existence.
Mike Love's Book - the majority of his interviews are about the same couple points - naming the drug-using Wilson brothers, talking about his lyrics, and Back in the USSR. I don't think anyone here has gone overboard in criticizing the book...the man has said and done a lot of stupid stuff, and its normal to wonder what the book is gonna be like. Does that mean no one wants it to be good? No...

Basically - there are very different points of reference for discussing these two things.

Do you really not see the difference here, and why these two things are treated differently?

There's a strange feeling about Brian Wilson perpetuated by posts like yours that I'm starting to see constantly - sarcasm in response to posters trying to reasonably discuss the new album, and I really don't understand it. If anyone has a good idea why this is happening, I'd like to know. I figured a year ago when the new album was first being discussed that everyone would unanimously be happy, simply for the fact that we're getting more music...but that has not been the case once for the last year. I guess it's just a weird Smiley Smile thing?

"Genius composer" is boring as hell in and of itself. But Brian is fascinating for many reasons beyond that hefty (and cumbersome) tag.... Mike's an interesting guy too.

There's enough room in the world for both guys to get some attention.

[Niko]

There's enough room in the world for both guys to get some attention.

Yep. You nailed it dawg, though giving either one more or less attention wasn't the issue.

My point was that the comparison of the criticisms of Mike Love's book to the Brian Wilson's album was ridiculous.

[Smilin Ed H]

I'll be looking forward to reading this. Rock books are usually a version of the truth and I wouldn't expect this one to be any different - though hopefully it won't contain stuff lifted from elsewhere without credit. It's bound to ignite partisan flames but all books like this do. Look at all the sh*t about Robertson v Helm or Henly and Frey v Felder and so on...

[The Shift]

I'm having trouble finding any posts here that are tearing this book apart. How one can compare the posts in this thread to people claiming Brian can't write a great song anymore, or that he's a sellout, or that he has no chance of getting on the radio again, or that his management is delusional, etc etc, is beyond me.

As for the book, I'm glad it's coming out. I have to agree with other posters that I hope Mike really delves into the late-60s, early 70s period. It'll also be great to read about his perspective of the C50 ending.

Agree. Looking forward to it tremendously. Whether Mike's outrageous or contrite, this should be good, so long as he has scope to tell it like he sees it, with no peer pressure to tow any party lines. Whether that be clichés or eye-openers, bring it on!

[Ian]

The interesting thing for me would be to see if mike adds new evidence or documentation for the early years. As I said once before, when writing my book I kept hoping a photo of the 1961 bbs with al would turn up but it never did. But it is entirely possible mike has one in his basement.

[Mikie]

Yep. You nailed it dawg

Are you Randy Jackson in disguise?