Was the songwriting better without Brian..?

[lostbeachboy]

But the title then needs to be changed to something like 'was the song writing better without Brian'.

Happy Billy in 4C?

[Andrew G. Doe]

Can AGD and me come over for dinner at 4:00?

AGD and I, dear heart... AGD and I.

[SMiLE Brian]

AGD, BillyC, and I will go to GF's dinner.

[guitarfool2002]

Cranberry sauce, light trolling, apples and oranges...what more could you ask for at a festive dinner gathering? 

[Andrew G. Doe]

Throw in a side of a candy bar & world peace and you got my vote.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Cranberry sauce...or 'I buried Paul'?

[Mikie]

Cranberry sauce...or 'I buried Paul'?

Yep!  And don't forget the yellow matter custard, dripping from a dead dog's eye.  And the Wild Honey Pie.  And the Kippers for breakfast.

Now you know how many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall.

[guitarfool2002]

That's it, dessert is settled. The following courses will be served after the meal:

- Cream tangerine and montelimar
- A ginger sling with a pineapple heart
- A coffee dessert
- Cool cherry cream
- A nice apple tart

Out of respect for those with dental concerns, the "Savoy Truffle" has been removed from the main menu but will be made available on request.

[Andrew G. Doe]

Is finger pie on the menu ?

[Peadar 'Big Dinner' O'Driscoll]

Worst thread in SS history. Is the original poster out of their mind?

It would seem so..

[Mikie]

I threw away my candy bar and I ate the wrapper.

[Mikie]

AGD, BillyC, and I will go to GF's dinner.

What about me, ya territorial rat!  I wanna sit at the head of the table and say Thanksgiving grace for all of yous.

[SMiLE Brian]

Sorry Mikie.

[Mendota Heights]

No pie pressure.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

[Mikie]

OK, what's the best pie for Thanksgiving dinner?

Mine are (not necessarily in order):

1. Punkin
2. Apple
3. Pecan
4. Hair

[bgas]

Pork Pie Hat

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

Guys, maybe he just realized he likes a lot of non-Brian songs .... It's perfctly OK.

With The Beach Boys, there's plenty of material to go around.

[Moon Dawg]

  There are far more good, even great, non-Brian Beach Boys' songs than the average listener will ever realize...but no the songwriting was not better without Brian.

[Nicko1234]

  There are far more good, even great, non-Brian Beach Boys' songs than the average listener will ever realize...but no the songwriting was not better without Brian.

Absolutely.

[Moon Dawg]

  Carl, Dennis, and Bruce all approached songwriting greatness minus Brian at least a time or two. Mike and Al did well also.

[Jim V.]

List of songs he didn't write:

California Calling

I'll bet you the entire amount of money in circulation in every country on earth that you're wrong about the highlighted title.

A check will be acceptable.

Well...what's the story on "California Calling" anyways? Wasn't there some random chord progression of Brian's that Al remembered and then applied that to his lyrics and melody to make "California Calling"? Or something like that?

For that matter, he really should have gotten a credit on "Summer of Love," too.

As for the good songs Brian wasn't credited on, I doubt whether Dennis or Carl or any of the other guys would have developed as songwriters without the example and influence of Brian. His work in the first five-six years made everything else possible.

I have to ask why he would deserve the punishment of being credited for "Summer of Love".

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Likely because it recycled part of the melody of 'Mike Come Back to LA' / 'Some of your Love'.

[CenturyDeprived]

Likely because it recycled part of the melody of 'Mike Come Back to LA' / 'Some of your Love'.

Don't forget it also recycled "child of winter" and "won'tcha come out tonight"!

Surfers recycle riffs now, don't you know.

[Andrew G. Doe]

List of songs he didn't write:

California Calling

I'll bet you the entire amount of money in circulation in every country on earth that you're wrong about the highlighted title.

A check will be acceptable.

Well...what's the story on "California Calling" anyways? Wasn't there some random chord progression of Brian's that Al remembered and then applied that to his lyrics and melody to make "California Calling"? Or something like that?

Story as I recall hearing it back in the day is that Alan played Brian an early version, then during pre-production Brian presented a more realised version as his own. Alan mildly observed that it sounded like something he'd written, and Brian said something like "Goddamit, you're right !". Hence the shared credit.