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« on: November 07, 2014, 09:16:28 AM »

My list of songs he didn't write (please correct me if I'm wrong)

4th of July
All This Is That
Baby Blue
Be With Me
Don't Go Near The Water
Feel Flows
Forever
Got To Know The Woman
Here She Comes
Kokomo
Leaving This Town
Little Bird
Long Promised Road
Lookin' at Tomorrow
Love Surrounds Me
Never Learn Not To Love  (ya I went there!)
San Miguel
Sip On Through
Sound of Free
Still Cruisin'
Susie Cincinnati
Tears In The Morning
A Time To Live In Dreams
The Trader
Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again

It's a pretty damn good list.

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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2014, 09:19:29 AM »

He was on much of those, so to answer your question. ..no.
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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2014, 09:27:10 AM »

He was on much of those, so to answer your question. ..no.

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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2014, 09:28:58 AM »

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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2014, 09:30:16 AM »

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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2014, 09:30:40 AM »

But the title then needs to be changed to something like 'was the song writing better without Brian'.

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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2014, 09:41:18 AM »

But the title then needs to be changed to something like 'was the song writing better without Brian'.



Answer is still no
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« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2014, 09:45:49 AM »

List of songs he didn't write:

All I Want to Do
Got to Know the Woman
Student Demonstration Time
Make It Good
The Beaks of Eagles
Everyone's in Love with You
Brian's Back
Kona Coast
Winds of Change
Livin' with a Heartache
Sumahama
Endless Harmony
She Believes in Love Again
California Calling
Kokomo
Summer of Love
Still Surfin
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« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2014, 09:52:07 AM »

But the title then needs to be changed to something like 'was the song writing better without Brian'.



Answer is still no

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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2014, 09:53:56 AM »

Apples and Oranges.  The band in 1967-1979, 1980-1996, 2012 are very different animals from the band 1961-66.  So the comparison doesn't really make a hell of a lot of sense.
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« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2014, 09:56:26 AM »

Really?
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« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2014, 10:00:16 AM »

No sir, O'Reilly
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« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2014, 10:02:11 AM »

Apples and Oranges.  The band in 1967-1979, 1980-1996, 2012 are very different animals from the band 1961-66.  So the comparison doesn't really make a hell of a lot of sense.
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« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2014, 10:07:42 AM »

The Beach Boys could be a good group without Brian. They could only be a great group with him.
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« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2014, 10:09:09 AM »

List of songs he did write:

Surfin Safari
409
Lonely Sea
Shut Down
Surfer Girl
Little Deuce Coupe
In My Room
Your Summer Dream
Don't Worry Baby
The Warmth of the Sun
I Get Around
All Summer Long
When I Grow Up to Be a Man
Help Me, Rhonda
Dance, Dance, Dance
Please Let Me Wonder
Kiss Me, Baby
In the Back of My Mind
California Girls
Let Him Run Wild
Wouldn't It Be Nice
You Still Believe in Me
That's Not Me
Don't Talk (Put Your Head on My Shoulder)
I'm Waiting for the Day
Let's Go Away for Awhile
God Only Knows
I Know There's an Answer
Here Today
I Just Wasn't Made for These Times
Pet Sounds
Caroline, No
Heroes and Villains
Cabin Essence
Wonderful
Surf's Up
Vega-Tables
Wind Chimes
The Elements
Love to Say Dada
Good Vibrations
Wild Honey
Country Air
Darlin'
Let the Wind Blow
Meant for You
Friends
Busy Doin' Nothin'
Do It Again
Time to Get Alone
This Whole World
All I Wanna Do
Our Sweet Love
Cool, Cool Water
A Day in the Life of a Tree
'Til I Die
You Need a Mess of Help to Stand Alone
Marcella
Sail On, Sailor
Funky Pretty
It's OK
Had to Phone Ya
Honkin' Down the Highway
The Night Was So Young
I'll Bet He's Nice
Let's Put Our Hearts Together
My Diane
Good Timin'
Goin' On
From There to Back Again
Pacific Coast Highway
Summer's Gone


Plus, I think there's some originally unreleased stuff that people like.
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« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2014, 10:14:01 AM »

Thanksgiving is coming up, I'm assuming a lot of people here will be either hosting or attending a Thanksgiving dinner of some kind, with family, friends, maybe even going to a restaurant or buffet, whatever the case. If everyone is gathered around the table waiting for the meal, and the host puts a plate of cranberry sauce on the table and nothing else, what would the reaction be? The cranberry sauce is part of the whole thing, but it isn't the Thanksgiving dinner. It's just a plate of cranberry sauce sitting on the table.

That list of songs "without Brian"? Cranberry sauce. Perfectly fine, enjoyable in its own way, but it doesn't work as a main course and is never served alone.

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« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2014, 10:17:05 AM »

List of songs he didn't write:

All I Want to Do
Got to Know the Woman
Student Demonstration Time
Make It Good
The Beaks of Eagles
Everyone's in Love with You
Brian's Back
Kona Coast
Winds of Change
Livin' with a Heartache
Sumahama
Endless Harmony
She Believes in Love Again
California Calling
Kokomo
Summer of Love
Still Surfin

I'll bet you the entire amount of money in circulation in every country on earth that you're wrong about the highlighted title.

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« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2014, 10:18:54 AM »

List of songs he didn't write:

All I Want to Do
Got to Know the Woman
Student Demonstration Time
Make It Good
The Beaks of Eagles
Everyone's in Love with You
Brian's Back
Kona Coast
Winds of Change
Livin' with a Heartache
Sumahama
Endless Harmony
She Believes in Love Again
California Calling
Kokomo
Summer of Love
Still Surfin

I'll bet you the entire amount of money in circulation in every country on earth that you're wrong about the highlighted title.

A check will be acceptable.

Oops. Well, 1 out of 17 ain't bad.
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« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2014, 10:20:04 AM »

List of songs he didn't write:

All I Want to Do
Got to Know the Woman
Student Demonstration Time
Make It Good
The Beaks of Eagles
Everyone's in Love with You
Brian's Back
Kona Coast
Winds of Change
Livin' with a Heartache
Sumahama
Endless Harmony
She Believes in Love Again
California Calling
Kokomo
Summer of Love
Still Surfin

I'll bet you the entire amount of money in circulation in every country on earth that you're wrong about the highlighted title.

A check will be acceptable.

For that matter, he really should have gotten a credit on "Summer of Love," too.

As for the good songs Brian wasn't credited on, I doubt whether Dennis or Carl or any of the other guys would have developed as songwriters without the example and influence of Brian. His work in the first five-six years made everything else possible.
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« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2014, 10:23:39 AM »

Songwriting and producing by the other members of the band complimented Brian's writing and producing. They stepped up. They had to. And I'll say some of it was as good or even better than what Brian was writing at the time.

Not that hits really matter, but how many did Brian write and how many did the rest of the band members write?  

Somebody said apples & oranges. Or cranberry sauce. Or yellow matter custard. Which is probably true.  
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As for the good songs Brian wasn't credited on, I doubt whether Dennis or Carl or any of the other guys would have developed as songwriters without the example and influence of Brian. His work in the first five-six years made everything else possible.

And still making things possible as of 2014. Take everything Brian Wilson had a hand in writing for The Beach Boys out of a Beach Boys current live concert setlist and you'll have a reaction from ticket buyers that would make the failed Maharishi tour in 1968 look like Live Aid 1985.
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« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2014, 10:33:56 AM »

Worst thread in SS history. Is the original poster out of their mind?
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« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2014, 10:37:37 AM »

Nah, just indulging in a little light trolling.  Smiley
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« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2014, 10:39:24 AM »

Nah, just indulging in a little light trolling.  Smiley

I plan to include an appetizer of light trolling this year to compliment my Thanksgiving dinner menu.   Grin
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« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2014, 10:50:20 AM »

Can AGD and me come over for dinner at 4:00? Grin
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