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« on: October 01, 2014, 12:59:19 PM »

Mike Love embarked on a spiritual journey in 1966 - it was the road to Rishikesh. Throughout his life Mike has talked about his time in India - often through music. Whether it's the seminal "Rishikesh" on Charles Lloyd's "Waves" album, or the seminal "Pisces Brothers" off of the unreleased yet seminal "Unleash the Love" album or even in the live shows, like Carnegie Hall 1971, where he would read a poem about his Indian interests.

This one is called "Peace and Love (and Cynthia)"


There's no doubt in my mind that this experience planted the seeds of his future creative endeavors, such as "Battle When of the Republic" or the seminal "Everything I Touch Turns to Tears" - which has yet to see the light of day on an offical Country Love release. Indian practices often teach patience - this is likely just part of the master plan, along with having fun fun fun as America's band.

for me it doesn't get better than his work on Waves. did someone say seminal?
http://youtu.be/nSRL4z6ADQQ?t=34m33s

There are so many moments of Mike Love/Rishikesh goodness. Can you collect them all?

So here's a challenge - the person with the best contribution(s) to The Road to Rishikesh will receive an Indian poem, signed and written by yours truly (instructions on levitation will be included on a napkin).

Through this we ourselves can embark...On The Road to Rishikesh And the greatest!
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« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2014, 01:05:50 PM »

My heart is beating fast!
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« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2014, 01:08:11 PM »

I wonder how Mike live poetry sessions went over with the crowd? I guess not well. Evil
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« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2014, 01:12:16 PM »

Mike is surely no Leonard Cohen, but if Charles Lloyd wanted this poem on the album I don't see what's wrong with it.

I would not call this poem seminal. Nor has anyone else.

And this thread certainly is not seminal. It really lacks substance and its attack mode makes it fall flat. It's a low-point. Why not create a thread where we discuss/deconstruct this album/poem instead? In a non-kindergarten way.

I will give this album a spin tomorrow. I like Charles Lloyd.
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« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2014, 01:18:20 PM »

I still think he needs to complete his magnum opus, show that Brian Wilson once and for all what inspiration is all about and make his big concept album about the trip to India. He could rerecord all of the TM-themed songs to lighten the songwriting load, put Pisces Brother in there, do a nice little segue with campfire sound fx as he talks about the Beatles singing him Happy Birthday, beg Yoko to use the recording... do a tasty, infectiously rhymey car-type song about proper meditation practice with the verses written on the drive to the studio for maximum commercial appeal, it's a surefire winner and how could Capitol Records refuse?

They wouldn't, because it'd be seminal. And the Kickstarter to raise money to afford Bruno Mars' participation would go viral BIGTIME!



Cmon, Mike. Unleash the Love. All your fans love it when you go all TM.
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« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2014, 01:22:03 PM »






I know that this is nit-picky and not on topic, but I'm almost positive that the woman in this picture is not Cynthia.  It looks a bit more like Pattie Boyd, George's then wife and future wife of Eric Clapton, to me.

That being said, I could be wrong.
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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2014, 02:19:31 PM »

You're right that it's not Cynthia. Not sure who it is though.
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« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2014, 02:31:41 PM »

I wonder how Mike live poetry sessions went over with the crowd? I guess not well. Evil

In all seriousness , Mike actually did recite this poem in Carnagie Hall at the first of two shows in September, 1971. A little background. "Surf's Up" had just been released and was extremely successful ; tons of airplay on the progressive FM stations at the time here in NY ; WNEW and WPLJ; additionally went to number 29 , I think, in Billboard , which was a miracle compared to 'Sunflower". To set the stage , there was a full page article in Time Magazine, where Carl stated that Brian would be playing the Carnagie Hall dates, so there was a real great vibe in the hall.  

At this time, The Beach Boys were opening the second half of their set with solo performances by each of the guys.  I can't remember the exact order , but it went something like this : Carl- "Caroline , No " on accoustic guitar; Al- "Lookin' At Tomorrow" on acoustic guitar; Bruce- "Disney Girls" on Wurlitzer electric piano ; Dennis- a stunning "Barbara" on grand piano with all the lights in Carnagie Hall turned off....amazing....Mike- "Rishikesh" ; no intrumental backup.

New York is not an easy place to play , and especially back then; we  New Yorkers also , maybe outside of Philadelphia , have some of the best/worst hecklers in the world. During most of the concerts in that time people were constantly shouting out requests, and it really annoyed the hell out of the group.  When Mike was reciting "Rishikesh" , people started talking ; I remember three specific things that were shouted out; first was "Little Deuce Coupe !" , another was "where's Brian ?" and the other was " hey Robert Frost , get the f..k off "...

Not a great moment ; it was really uncomfortable.  About 6 songs later The Beach Boys debuted "Surf's Up" live. The Agony and the Ecstacy.
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« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2014, 02:32:01 PM »

John looks like he's had enough of The Lovester; I think that's when Lennon's spiritual journey came to an end.
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« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2014, 02:43:21 PM »

John looks like he's had enough of The Lovester; I think that's when Lennon's spiritual journey came to an end.

Maybe he just wants some damn drugs.
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« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2014, 02:57:43 PM »

I like it. So f***.
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« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2014, 04:36:00 PM »

I wonder how Mike live poetry sessions went over with the crowd? I guess not well. Evil

In all seriousness , Mike actually did recite this poem in Carnagie Hall at the first of two shows in September, 1971. A little background. "Surf's Up" had just been released and was extremely successful ; tons of airplay on the progressive FM stations at the time here in NY ; WNEW and WPLJ; additionally went to number 29 , I think, in Billboard , which was a miracle compared to 'Sunflower". To set the stage , there was a full page article in Time Magazine, where Carl stated that Brian would be playing the Carnagie Hall dates, so there was a real great vibe in the hall. 

At this time, The Beach Boys were opening the second half of their set with solo performances by each of the guys.  I can't remember the exact order , but it went something like this : Carl- "Caroline , No " on accoustic guitar; Al- "Lookin' At Tomorrow" on acoustic guitar; Bruce- "Disney Girls" on Wurlitzer electric piano ; Dennis- a stunning "Barbara" on grand piano with all the lights in Carnagie Hall turned off....amazing....Mike- "Rishikesh" ; no intrumental backup.

New York is not an easy place to play , and especially back then; we  New Yorkers also , maybe outside of Philadelphia , have some of the best/worst hecklers in the world. During most of the concerts in that time people were constantly shouting out requests, and it really annoyed the hell out of the group.  When Mike was reciting "Rishikesh" , people started talking ; I remember three specific things that were shouted out; first was "Little Deuce Coupe !" , another was "where's Brian ?" and the other was " hey Robert Frost , get the f..k off "...

Not a great moment ; it was really uncomfortable.  About 6 songs later The Beach Boys debuted "Surf's Up" live. The Agony and the Ecstacy.

I was there too, Ray, for the first show at Carnegie, 9/71 You are exactly right - the vibe in the room was electric. I went out of my head when they did "It's About Time" with the whole percussion ensemble ---and then hearing Surf's Up (There was an ad for the lp on the Carnegie Program, which is somewhere in my files). I do have an audio recording, but it sounds pretty crappy compared to my audio dreams of that show. First time I ever saw them of many, many shows to come.
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« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2014, 05:08:43 PM »

All I can do is quote the Dali Lama:

"The more you are motivated by LOVE the more fearless and free your actions will be."

and...

"LOVE is the absence of judgement. "

I'm sure it applies somehow.
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« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2014, 05:37:06 PM »



    "Love opens all doors, no matter how closed they may be, no matter how rusty from lack of use." - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
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« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2014, 06:22:05 PM »

And, you know, the Wilsons did drugs….

http://www.desertsun.com/story/life/entertainment/2014/10/01/mike-love-beach-boys-meditation/16559013
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« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2014, 06:23:46 PM »

Especially that Dennis Wilson character. His songwriting talents were negated by his drug use, alcoholism and ignorance of TM.
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« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2014, 06:37:50 PM »

In India Mike Love met with the famous rock group the Beatles. It was here Mike wrote the song BACK IN THE USSR. Legend has it that Paul McCartney gets credit because Mike used his back as if it were a desk. To this day whenever Mike sees Paul he yells "hows my favorite piece of furniture" and slathers Sir Paul with varnish. Sir Paul thinks its fun and enjoyable. Sir Paul is a sick man. . . 
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« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2014, 06:48:12 PM »

LOL

That means he VARNISHED the reputation of the Beatles *cough*
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« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2014, 08:04:49 PM »

I wonder how Mike live poetry sessions went over with the crowd? I guess not well. Evil

In all seriousness , Mike actually did recite this poem in Carnagie Hall at the first of two shows in September, 1971. A little background. "Surf's Up" had just been released and was extremely successful ; tons of airplay on the progressive FM stations at the time here in NY ; WNEW and WPLJ; additionally went to number 29 , I think, in Billboard , which was a miracle compared to 'Sunflower". To set the stage , there was a full page article in Time Magazine, where Carl stated that Brian would be playing the Carnagie Hall dates, so there was a real great vibe in the hall. 

At this time, The Beach Boys were opening the second half of their set with solo performances by each of the guys.  I can't remember the exact order , but it went something like this : Carl- "Caroline , No " on accoustic guitar; Al- "Lookin' At Tomorrow" on acoustic guitar; Bruce- "Disney Girls" on Wurlitzer electric piano ; Dennis- a stunning "Barbara" on grand piano with all the lights in Carnagie Hall turned off....amazing....Mike- "Rishikesh" ; no intrumental backup.

New York is not an easy place to play , and especially back then; we  New Yorkers also , maybe outside of Philadelphia , have some of the best/worst hecklers in the world. During most of the concerts in that time people were constantly shouting out requests, and it really annoyed the hell out of the group.  When Mike was reciting "Rishikesh" , people started talking ; I remember three specific things that were shouted out; first was "Little Deuce Coupe !" , another was "where's Brian ?" and the other was " hey Robert Frost , get the f..k off "...

Not a great moment ; it was really uncomfortable.  About 6 songs later The Beach Boys debuted "Surf's Up" live. The Agony and the Ecstacy.

I was there too, Ray, for the first show at Carnegie, 9/71 You are exactly right - the vibe in the room was electric. I went out of my head when they did "It's About Time" with the whole percussion ensemble ---and then hearing Surf's Up (There was an ad for the lp on the Carnegie Program, which is somewhere in my files). I do have an audio recording, but it sounds pretty crappy compared to my audio dreams of that show. First time I ever saw them of many, many shows to come.

i have (somewhere) a fairly decent audience recording of that concert. All night long I expected Brian (per Carl in Time Magazine) to come out and play "Surf's Up". So just as Carl was introducing "Surf's Up" I yelled out " where's Brian ?" and Dennis gave the perfect answer : "Brian's in this song".

"Rishikesh' , to my memory, was not recited in the second show.

And of course , Brian was not at either.
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« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2014, 08:08:47 PM »

Mike Love embarked on a spiritual journey in 1966 - it was the road to Rishikesh. Throughout his life Mike has talked about his time in India - often through music. Whether it's the seminal "Rishikesh" on Charles Lloyd's "Waves" album, or the seminal "Pisces Brothers" off of the unreleased yet seminal "Unleash the Love" album or even in the live shows, like Carnegie Hall 1971, where he would read a poem about his Indian interests.

This one is called "Peace and Love (and Cynthia)"


There's no doubt in my mind that this experience planted the seeds of his future creative endeavors, such as "Battle When of the Republic" or the seminal "Everything I Touch Turns to Tears" - which has yet to see the light of day on an offical Country Love release. Indian practices often teach patience - this is likely just part of the master plan, along with having fun fun fun as America's band.

for me it doesn't get better than his work on Waves. did someone say seminal?
http://youtu.be/nSRL4z6ADQQ?t=34m33s

There are so many moments of Mike Love/Rishikesh goodness. Can you collect them all?

So here's a challenge - the person with the best contribution(s) to The Road to Rishikesh will receive an Indian poem, signed and written by yours truly (instructions on levitation will be included on a napkin).

Through this we ourselves can embark...On The Road to Rishikesh And the greatest!


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