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Quote from: John Manning on August 17, 2014, 11:31:53 PM
No love for
Lines
here? Maybe my favourite off that album. Just a big slice-o'life Brian.
Yes Lines is beautiful - my favourite too from the album and one of my favourite late 70s Brian tracks.
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Frank Sinatra covered I Write The Songs
CLOSE ENOUGH right?
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Controversial opinion time...i much prefer the Adult Child and New Album songs to Love You...
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Re: Adult/Child's demise
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Quote from: buddhahat on August 17, 2014, 11:40:14 PM
Quote from: John Manning on August 17, 2014, 11:31:53 PM
No love for
Lines
here? Maybe my favourite off that album. Just a big slice-o'life Brian.
Yes Lines is beautiful - my favourite too from the album and one of my favourite late 70s Brian tracks.
Plenty of Love for Lines here too - yeah, good call on the slice of life vein that stems back to I'd Love Just Once to See You (or earlier?) that pops up again in BDN, IWTS, to name a couple - I think Still I Dream of It is also not too that far removed
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Quote from: Bean Bag on August 17, 2014, 09:15:43 PM
Frankly, I can't believed they released
Love You
. Which is sort of the point and much of its charm.
I can absolutely see why Love You was released at the time. Did you hear that demo version of I'll Bet He's Nice where Mike Love is clearly in awe of how brilliant that song is? The vocal performances may sound a little rough by BB standards (to put it mildly) but most of the songs were just incredibly catchy, much more so than pretty much any of the stuff the group had issued since Sunflower.
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August 18, 2014, 03:01:14 AM »
I like the ambition of the big band numbers. in fact, I wish the album had been all big band stuff. Presumably, Brian lost interest. The stuff from 69/70 sticks out like a sore thumb. I do, however, love Lines.
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Releasing the big band songs as an EP would have been an interesting move but, again, not of much commercial interest I guess.
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1. Life is For The Living - awesome
2. Hey Little Tomboy - appalling
3. Deep Purple - awful
4. H.E.L.P. Is On The Way - ace
5. It’s Over Now - awesome
6. Everybody Wants To Live - awesome
7. Shortenin’ Bread - average
8. Lines - unfinished
9. On Broadway - appalling
10. Games Two Can Play - average
11. It’s Trying To Say - unfinished
12. Still I Dream of It -awesome
I couldn't think of a word for unfinished that begins with "A".
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Re: Adult/Child's demise
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August 18, 2014, 07:20:47 AM »
"Abandoned"?
I love the big band tracks to pieces, even "Deep Purple". "It's Over Now" is up with the best of
Love You
, in my opinion. And as baffling as some of the material they put in is, it's a pleasant listening experience... "Life" is a great opener, "Everybody Wants To Live" you can imagine kicking off side 2, and "Still I Dream Of It" is at least a better way to close an album than "Love Is A Woman", right?
Still, a lot of the other tracks really do sound like demos - I don't know what they were expecting throwing in those versions of "Shortenin' Bread" and "Lines" in the final master. And I can't deny that "H.E.L.P", "On Broadway", and "Hey Little Tomboy" drag the album down quite a bit. (seriously, what were they thinking putting the latter on
M.I.U.
?)
Flawed as it is, I still love it. A big shame Brian lost interest in the big band tracks; I really do think the four put the album are special.
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Re: Adult/Child's demise
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Life Is For The Living is a terrific opener (has everyone heard the isolated backing track? Also great!). My favourite moment on the entire album however is the 'Gonna tell her' fade to Lines - great stuff! Also, I much prefer the version of Shortenin' Bread here to that on L.A. - that repetitive farty synth is utterly splendid. Not much else grabs my attention on A/C though... (besides the 'old' tracks: HELP and Games...)
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August 18, 2014, 10:20:25 AM »
As far as the big band tracks are concerned, It's Over Now sounds pretty 1977-contemporary to me.
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August 18, 2014, 01:31:50 PM »
Quote from: phirnis on August 18, 2014, 01:42:12 AM
Quote from: Bean Bag on August 17, 2014, 09:15:43 PM
Frankly, I can't believed they released
Love You
. Which is sort of the point and much of its charm.
I can absolutely see why Love You was released at the time. Did you hear that demo version of I'll Bet He's Nice where Mike Love is clearly in awe of how brilliant that song is? The vocal performances may sound a little rough by BB standards (to put it mildly) but most of the songs were just incredibly catchy, much more so than pretty much any of the stuff the group had issued since Sunflower.
I agree. I think I actually like the
Love You
demo versions more.
When I first heard
Love You
, I couldn't believe they agreed to release it. Especially Johnny Carson. I felt the same way for
Smiley Smile
. Two of my favorite Beach Boy albums.
Still can't believe they got released. They're nuts!
Adult/Child
would have been just as "shocking." Maybe a little more so. It's a favorite as well.
Baseball's on!!
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August 18, 2014, 01:33:11 PM »
Quote from: Joel Goldenberg on August 18, 2014, 10:20:25 AM
As far as the big band tracks are concerned, It's Over Now sounds pretty 1977-contemporary to me.
Yep. I love the cheesy, schmaltzy big band tracks. This album is so crazy!
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Re: Adult/Child's demise
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August 18, 2014, 01:41:32 PM »
Quote from: Bean Bag on August 18, 2014, 01:31:50 PM
Quote from: phirnis on August 18, 2014, 01:42:12 AM
Quote from: Bean Bag on August 17, 2014, 09:15:43 PM
Frankly, I can't believed they released
Love You
. Which is sort of the point and much of its charm.
I can absolutely see why Love You was released at the time. Did you hear that demo version of I'll Bet He's Nice where Mike Love is clearly in awe of how brilliant that song is? The vocal performances may sound a little rough by BB standards (to put it mildly) but most of the songs were just incredibly catchy, much more so than pretty much any of the stuff the group had issued since Sunflower.
I agree. I think I actually like the
Love You
demo versions more.
When I first heard
Love You
, I couldn't believe they agreed to release it. Especially Johnny Carson. I felt the same way for
Smiley Smile
. Two of my favorite Beach Boy albums.
Still can't believe they got released. They're nuts!
Adult/Child
would have been just as "shocking." Maybe a little more so. It's a favorite as well.
Baseball's on!!
Agreed on all counts. Shocking and whacked-out Adult/Child with flashes of true brilliance beats the bland + formulaic M.I.U. Album any day. (And mind you, I still dig M.I.U. Album and think it's underrated compared to its harshest critics, but relatively speaking it's so much more forgettable.) I guess the ultimate head-scratcher for me is why the whacked-out Love You made the release cut, and A/C didn't.
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Leave out the covers and concentrate upon the big band numbers and cool gems such as Lines, and you've got a great, quirky Brian solo album. The necessity of another Warner album probably meant that it was Beach Boys or nothing at all. And nothing at all turned into MIU.
Wonder if he was so disposed to try a solo LP back then - Mike was active with Celebration at the time after all.
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Re: Adult/Child's demise
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Quote from: The Legendary AGD on August 17, 2014, 11:36:25 PM
Quote from: KittyKat on August 17, 2014, 11:16:27 PM
I would have liked to have seen Frank Sinatra's face when "Life Is For the Living" was played for him, if Brian got his wish for Frank to hear it as a possible song to cover.
Wrong song: "Still I Dream Of It".
That would have been a great song for Frank to sing (assuming he never did).
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August 18, 2014, 05:03:24 PM »
That reminds me of a funny Randy Newman story. He wrote "Lonely At the Top" for Sinatra and even played it for Sinatra in person, to audition the song. If I remember the story correctly, Sinatra left the room without really saying much. And so it ended up on Sail Away, lol.
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August 18, 2014, 09:10:52 PM »
Sinatra was a cool cat. For him to be in his 50s/60s and being out auditioning new "young" artists' material is alright!
He was interested in exploring new directions in the late 60s and 70s. Some Brian-stuff would have been great -- lyrically and musically -- Love is a Woman, Airplane -- stuff from this era. Man... that'da been awesome!
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August 18, 2014, 09:13:15 PM »
Quote from: CenturyDeprived on August 18, 2014, 01:41:32 PM
Quote from: Bean Bag on August 18, 2014, 01:31:50 PM
Quote from: phirnis on August 18, 2014, 01:42:12 AM
Quote from: Bean Bag on August 17, 2014, 09:15:43 PM
Frankly, I can't believed they released
Love You
. Which is sort of the point and much of its charm.
I can absolutely see why Love You was released at the time. Did you hear that demo version of I'll Bet He's Nice where Mike Love is clearly in awe of how brilliant that song is? The vocal performances may sound a little rough by BB standards (to put it mildly) but most of the songs were just incredibly catchy, much more so than pretty much any of the stuff the group had issued since Sunflower.
I agree. I think I actually like the
Love You
demo versions more.
When I first heard
Love You
, I couldn't believe they agreed to release it. Especially Johnny Carson. I felt the same way for
Smiley Smile
. Two of my favorite Beach Boy albums.
Still can't believe they got released. They're nuts!
Adult/Child
would have been just as "shocking." Maybe a little more so. It's a favorite as well.
Baseball's on!!
Agreed on all counts. Shocking and whacked-out Adult/Child with flashes of true brilliance beats the bland + formulaic M.I.U. Album any day. (And mind you, I still dig M.I.U. Album and think it's underrated compared to its harshest critics, but relatively speaking it's so much more forgettable.) I guess the ultimate head-scratcher for me is why the whacked-out Love You made the release cut, and A/C didn't.
Oh yeah -- big MIU fan here too. But, absolutely, MIU is like saltine crackers compared to the gin and tonic of A/C and L/Y.
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August 18, 2014, 09:28:14 PM »
Any idea on what the cover woulda/coulda have been for Adult Child???
Sit ups and puuuush ups!
I can see Bri out jogging with a big shi-t eatin' grin. Sweat bands. With Denny running behind him, hair blowing, smiling, squinting. Carl jogging and grinning. Mike and Al in them running shorts!
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Re: Adult/Child's demise
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August 19, 2014, 11:54:00 PM »
Quote from: Judd on August 18, 2014, 07:20:47 AM
"Abandoned"?
I love the big band tracks to pieces, even "Deep Purple". "It's Over Now" is up with the best of
Love You
, in my opinion. And as baffling as some of the material they put in is, it's a pleasant listening experience... "Life" is a great opener, "Everybody Wants To Live" you can imagine kicking off side 2, and "Still I Dream Of It" is at least a better way to close an album than "Love Is A Woman", right?
Still, a lot of the other tracks really do sound like demos - I don't know what they were expecting throwing in those versions of "Shortenin' Bread" and "Lines" in the final master. And I can't deny that "H.E.L.P", "On Broadway", and "Hey Little Tomboy" drag the album down quite a bit. (seriously, what were they thinking putting the latter on
M.I.U.
?)
Flawed as it is, I still love it. A big shame Brian lost interest in the big band tracks; I really do think the four put the album are special.
I love Adult Child too. It's like Love You but with all strange/wonderful aspects that make it Love You AMPED UP. It's a weird album and it comes across as insane in the places that Love You was childish and endearing. The only track I dislike is Tomboy. The music itself is of average quality, but the lyrics make it, to me, unlistenable. I leave it out of all my mixes.
But I love it for those reasons - it's a truly unique piece of work.
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Re: Adult/Child's demise
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Quote from: Woodstock on August 19, 2014, 11:54:00 PM
Quote from: Judd on August 18, 2014, 07:20:47 AM
"Abandoned"?
I love the big band tracks to pieces, even "Deep Purple". "It's Over Now" is up with the best of
Love You
, in my opinion. And as baffling as some of the material they put in is, it's a pleasant listening experience... "Life" is a great opener, "Everybody Wants To Live" you can imagine kicking off side 2, and "Still I Dream Of It" is at least a better way to close an album than "Love Is A Woman", right?
Still, a lot of the other tracks really do sound like demos - I don't know what they were expecting throwing in those versions of "Shortenin' Bread" and "Lines" in the final master. And I can't deny that "H.E.L.P", "On Broadway", and "Hey Little Tomboy" drag the album down quite a bit. (seriously, what were they thinking putting the latter on
M.I.U.
?)
Flawed as it is, I still love it. A big shame Brian lost interest in the big band tracks; I really do think the four put the album are special.
I love Adult Child too. It's like Love You but with all strange/wonderful aspects that make it Love You AMPED UP. It's a weird album and it comes across as insane in the places that Love You was childish and endearing. The only track I dislike is Tomboy. The music itself is of average quality, but the lyrics make it, to me, unlistenable. I leave it out of all my mixes.
But I love it for those reasons - it's a truly unique piece of work.
To me the album seems much more all over the place than
Love You
, both in sentiment and production. Some songs sound like
Love You Part II
, some are in the big band style, "Life is for the Living" is
Love You
in the big band style, and some are, I think, quite a bit closer to
Friends
than
Love You
. And on top of all that, the two older tracks stick out quite a bit more than "Good Time" did on
Love You
. Even though it has more songs I'm indifferent to than
Love You
does, I still think it's a pretty strong album, though, partly because I like how all over the place it is and partly because it has some fine Brian songs with lyrics that are either charmingly eccentric or charmingly homespun depending on the song. It probably wouldn't have sold terribly well, but then again, neither did
M.I.U.
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