*Merged* Brian Wilson current album thread

[Andrew G. Doe]

The S&S analogy makes no sense whatsoever.

This is an album of (mostly) original songs. It's not a "tribute" to Brian's work. It's new work by Brian.

Brian is not just contributing backgrounds, he's doing leads as well.

It's not country. It doesn't have the Beach Boys on it. I mean, what on earth are people smoking here?

People were slagging the project off earlier by comparing it to GIOMH, but that's at least a semi-relevant comparison -- previously unreleased songs and superstar guests.

Brian is doing backgrounds while others sing lead. Just like Stars & Stripes. Is my point. My prime point is that this is version 4.0 of this album.

[Niko]

That's a similarity, but not a comparison I would ever make.

[SMiLE Brian]

BW is in control of this new project. S&S was version 30.0 of a BBs cash grab.

[FatherOfTheMan Sr101]

That's a similarity, but not a comparison I would ever make.

+1

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Doesn't Brian have some leads though?

[SurfRiderHawaii]

A poor comparison in multiple ways. One that even Rolling Stone wouldn't publish. 

[Niko]

It's also not an album of covers...the one cover on this album is of an instrumental with lyrics being added!

[Niko]

I don't like the arguing here, saying "Why can't Brian _____"

It's an album of new Brian music - I say be happy with that 

[rab2591]

I don't like the arguing here, saying "Why can't Brian _____"

It's an album of new Brian music - I say be happy with that 

Nah bruh. See, that'd be the logical thing to do. This is Smiley Smile though; a place not to REJOICE in the fact that a 72 year old Brian Wilson is STILL making records, but a place to pick apart Brian's creative/artistic vision like vultures on roadkill.

This thread is just.........

[KittyKat]

Why do people think that Brian is completely in control or that this album is entirely Brian's so called vision? After the major changes it's gone through over the past year and the fact Joe Thomas is involved, as well as a major label like Capitol?  This album isn't being made in a similar fashion as TLOS, where Brian was commissioned to write songs by himself or whomever he wanted regardless of commercial considerations (and he chose Scott B.), and he used his own band instead of any session players or singers.

[Niko]

Hasn't Ray said as much - that Brian is very much in control of how things are going? Why dirty the water so much when we can only speculate...

[SMiLE Brian]

Kittykat, what's your ideal BBs/BW project?

[Niko]

Cartman said it best:

[rab2591]

Why do people think that Brian is completely in control or that this album is entirely Brian's so called vision? After the major changes it's gone through over the past year and the fact Joe Thomas is involved, as well as a major label like Capitol?  This album isn't being made in a similar fashion as TLOS, where Brian was commissioned to write songs by himself or whomever he wanted regardless of commercial considerations (and he chose Scott B.), and he used his own band instead of any session players or singers.

We call Pet Sounds Brian's most artistic/thoughtful work (a work that would never have been created without Brian's artistic vision), yet he had session musicians/Tony Asher giving him ideas, Mike had Brian change the lyrics to Hang On To Your Ego. After all that was it still Brian's pure artistic vision? Brian still signs off on the final work. He is the creator, the visionary. If he has to work within the perimeters of other people's ideas, so be it. He has almost always done that...Doesn't make his work any less beautiful for the most part.

But still people here sh*t all over music that they haven't even heard yet. Thank f*** Brian doesn't read this board - actually, most of these posts are so ludicrous anyway he'd probably laugh his ass off.

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

Haven't people been basically unhappy with whatever Brian's doing since ............ 1967?

Think about it.....

And this is why, deep down, I'm happy we're getting all riled up here ...... Brian either does what he wants or what's the path of least resistance in order to get ....... what he wants.

[Niko]

I'm not happy because...what is there to be riled up about? My thoughts on this project haven't changed since it became known Brian was working on a new album - that we should be happy to be getting anything at all from Brian. The clip of Zooey's vocals just made me more excited to know that, hey, this album is REAL and will be blasting from my speakers at some point in the near future.

[bringahorseinhere?]

and isn't is funny, a lot or some us LOVE Brian post 67!  Friends, Sunflower, bedroom tapes, love you......

My favourite period.... 65 - current!

RickB

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

and isn't is funny, a lot or some us LOVE Brian post 67!  Friends, Sunflower, bedroom tapes, love you......

My favourite period.... 65 - current!

RickB

Me too, but I'm just saying there's always been a chorus of folks waiting for "The Next Pet Sounds"

My fave period: 61 - present

[Shady]

My favourite period 1942- present

I'm a big fan of his pre music baseball playing years

[Niko]

He was good, even if he couldn't hit that curve ball for beans.

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

I don't know if there's a bit of "Mike Love style revisionism" going on here ........ but all through the late 80's and 90's it was VERY tough to praise 67 onward Beach Boys albums without running into the whole "I lost all interest after Pet Sounds" thing or stuff like "Anything not a Brian song sucks" like "Sail On Sailor is great, but the rest of Holland sucks" "20/20 sucks other than Cabinessence" etc etc etc..... It was rough.

[Niko]

From who?

[bringahorseinhere?]

My favourite period 1942- present

Indeed, Me Too!   

RickB

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

From who?

for folks who love it all

[Niko]

running into the whole "I lost all interest after Pet Sounds" thing or stuff like "Anything not a Brian song sucks" like "Sail On Sailor is great, but the rest of Holland sucks" "20/20 sucks other than Cabinessence" etc etc etc..... It was rough.

No I mean, who said these things?