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Jim V.
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Can't speak for Bruce, but my impression was that, while the band were pleased to get a song, any song, from Brian, they weren't doing backflips about what they got. I can dig that.
I don't know; "In My Car" may not be Brian's greatest song, but compared to most of what the band was releasing at the time, I'm not sure they had much to complain about.
Also, the fact that we fortunately get Carl + Al (though I can't seem to pick out Al in the song?) makes this song a peek into what the Brian Wilson album would have sounded like had we gotten actual BB vocals on them.
This might help:
http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,5525.msg81382.html#msg81382
Thanks, metal flake paint. I hope someday, a "close up" of every line and backing vocal from every album can be completed by some kind soul!
Err...isn't the link part of a larger section dedicated to just that?
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Can't speak for Bruce, but my impression was that, while the band were pleased to get a song, any song, from Brian, they weren't doing backflips about what they got. I can dig that.
I don't know; "In My Car" may not be Brian's greatest song, but compared to most of what the band was releasing at the time, I'm not sure they had much to complain about.
Also, the fact that we fortunately get Carl + Al (though I can't seem to pick out Al in the song?) makes this song a peek into what the Brian Wilson album would have sounded like had we gotten actual BB vocals on them.
This might help:
http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,5525.msg81382.html#msg81382
Thanks, metal flake paint. I hope someday, a "close up" of every line and backing vocal from every album can be completed by some kind soul!
Err...isn't the link part of a larger section dedicated to just that?
The Vocal Credits thread doesn't go that closeup into detail for every line in every song. That would be like Desper-level study videos worth of vocal info, line by line, for every song. One can dream.
There are certain songs here and there in the thread that get the deluxe treatment, but most don't go line-by-line. That would be one helluva project.
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Can't speak for Bruce, but my impression was that, while the band were pleased to get a song, any song, from Brian, they weren't doing backflips about what they got. I can dig that.
I don't know; "In My Car" may not be Brian's greatest song, but compared to most of what the band was releasing at the time, I'm not sure they had much to complain about.
Also, the fact that we fortunately get Carl + Al (though I can't seem to pick out Al in the song?) makes this song a peek into what the Brian Wilson album would have sounded like had we gotten actual BB vocals on them.
This might help:
http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,5525.msg81382.html#msg81382
What's "[Omnes]" mean? I mean, I can figure out WHAT it means from the context but why use that word?
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Can't speak for Bruce, but my impression was that, while the band were pleased to get a song, any song, from Brian, they weren't doing backflips about what they got. I can dig that.
I don't know; "In My Car" may not be Brian's greatest song, but compared to most of what the band was releasing at the time, I'm not sure they had much to complain about.
Also, the fact that we fortunately get Carl + Al (though I can't seem to pick out Al in the song?) makes this song a peek into what the Brian Wilson album would have sounded like had we gotten actual BB vocals on them.
This might help:
http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,5525.msg81382.html#msg81382
What's "[Omnes]" mean? I mean, I can figure out WHAT it means from the context but why use that word?
It comes from the root "omni", meaning "all". (As in omniscient, omnipotent, etc.)
As for why... I have no idea. Sounds fancy?
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Because occasionally I like to parade my erudition for the benefit of those not blessed with an equivalent depth and breadth of general knowledge. It gives me a sense of tremendous well being.
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Works for me!
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With all this talk about the Still Cruisin' album, it occurs to me this is probably the only BB album on which two different songs both have an identical lyrical sentence "still cruisin' after all of these years" (in the songs "Still Cruisin'" + "In My Car"). Maybe this can be a good trivia question for some future mega-nerd BB board game.
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With all this talk about the Still Cruisin' album, it occurs to me this is probably the only BB album on which two different songs both have an identical lyrical sentence "still cruisin' after all of these years" (in the songs "Still Cruisin'" + "In My Car"). Maybe this can be a good trivia question for some future mega-nerd BB board game.
Did Brian put that line in his song because he knew it was going on that album?
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With all this talk about the Still Cruisin' album, it occurs to me this is probably the only BB album on which two different songs both have an identical lyrical sentence "still cruisin' after all of these years" (in the songs "Still Cruisin'" + "In My Car"). Maybe this can be a good trivia question for some future mega-nerd BB board game.
Did Brian put that line in his song because he knew it was going on that album?
That's a good question, and if the line itself was lifted from the song "Still Cruisin'", I'm almost surprised that the Lovester hasn't claimed a piece of songwriting credit for "In My Car"... As crazy as it sounds, I'm serious. That would be using similar 6-words logic to his credit claim for "Wouldn't It Be Nice."
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With all this talk about the Still Cruisin' album, it occurs to me this is probably the only BB album on which two different songs both have an identical lyrical sentence "still cruisin' after all of these years" (in the songs "Still Cruisin'" + "In My Car"). Maybe this can be a good trivia question for some future mega-nerd BB board game.
Did Brian put that line in his song because he knew it was going on that album?
That's a good question, and if the line itself was lifted from the song "Still Cruisin'", I'm almost surprised that the Lovester hasn't claimed a piece of songwriting credit for "In My Car"... As crazy as it sounds, I'm serious. That would be using similar 6-words logic to his credit claim for "Wouldn't It Be Nice."
Brian should then get a credit on Kona Coast, since it borrows the melody and lyrics of Hawaii.
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With all this talk about the Still Cruisin' album, it occurs to me this is probably the only BB album on which two different songs both have an identical lyrical sentence "still cruisin' after all of these years" (in the songs "Still Cruisin'" + "In My Car"). Maybe this can be a good trivia question for some future mega-nerd BB board game.
Did Brian put that line in his song because he knew it was going on that album?
That's a good question, and if the line itself was lifted from the song "Still Cruisin'", I'm almost surprised that the Lovester hasn't claimed a piece of songwriting credit for "In My Car"... As crazy as it sounds, I'm serious. That would be using similar 6-words logic to his credit claim for "Wouldn't It Be Nice."
Brian should then get a credit on Kona Coast, since it borrows the melody and lyrics of Hawaii.
YES: both songs being such Mega-sellers, it's a wonder this hasn't transpired
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With all this talk about the Still Cruisin' album, it occurs to me this is probably the only BB album on which two different songs both have an identical lyrical sentence "still cruisin' after all of these years" (in the songs "Still Cruisin'" + "In My Car"). Maybe this can be a good trivia question for some future mega-nerd BB board game.
Did Brian put that line in his song because he knew it was going on that album?
That's a good question, and if the line itself was lifted from the song "Still Cruisin'", I'm almost surprised that the Lovester hasn't claimed a piece of songwriting credit for "In My Car"... As crazy as it sounds, I'm serious. That would be using similar 6-words logic to his credit claim for "Wouldn't It Be Nice."
Brian should then get a credit on Kona Coast, since it borrows the melody and lyrics of Hawaii.
YES: both songs being such Mega-sellers, it's a wonder this hasn't transpired
Safe to assume that if IMC had been a big hit, then we'd have seen a ML cowriting credit claim for it in the lawsuit?
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I think it's Paul Simon who should be calling the lawyers!
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With all this talk about the Still Cruisin' album, it occurs to me this is probably the only BB album on which two different songs both have an identical lyrical sentence "still cruisin' after all of these years" (in the songs "Still Cruisin'" + "In My Car"). Maybe this can be a good trivia question for some future mega-nerd BB board game.
Did Brian put that line in his song because he knew it was going on that album?
That's a good question, and if the line itself was lifted from the song "Still Cruisin'", I'm almost surprised that the Lovester hasn't claimed a piece of songwriting credit for "In My Car"... As crazy as it sounds, I'm serious. That would be using similar 6-words logic to his credit claim for "Wouldn't It Be Nice."
Brian should then get a credit on Kona Coast, since it borrows the melody and lyrics of Hawaii.
YES: both songs being such Mega-sellers, it's a wonder this hasn't transpired
He sued to get writing credit on the following Mega-sellers:
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With all this talk about the Still Cruisin' album, it occurs to me this is probably the only BB album on which two different songs both have an identical lyrical sentence "still cruisin' after all of these years" (in the songs "Still Cruisin'" + "In My Car"). Maybe this can be a good trivia question for some future mega-nerd BB board game.
Did Brian put that line in his song because he knew it was going on that album?
That's a good question, and if the line itself was lifted from the song "Still Cruisin'", I'm almost surprised that the Lovester hasn't claimed a piece of songwriting credit for "In My Car"... As crazy as it sounds, I'm serious. That would be using similar 6-words logic to his credit claim for "Wouldn't It Be Nice."
What 6 words did he claim credit for on WIBN?
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"Good night my baby
Sleep tight my baby"
Actually, eight words, if only six different ones.
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Quote from: The Legendary AGD on December 05, 2013, 03:58:25 PM
"Good night my baby
Sleep tight my baby"
Actually, eight words, if only six different ones.
Never heard about this before. So does Mike get a credit on this one now? Are there any other songs that are still in dispute?
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Quote from: The Legendary AGD on December 05, 2013, 03:58:25 PM
"Good night my baby
Sleep tight my baby"
Actually, eight words, if only six different ones.
Never heard about this before. So does Mike get a credit on this one now? Are there any other songs that are still in dispute?
Any song Mike isn't currently credited for is still in dispute, just not in court. Yet.
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Quote from: Lonely Summer on December 05, 2013, 06:19:30 PM
Quote from: The Legendary AGD on December 05, 2013, 03:58:25 PM
"Good night my baby
Sleep tight my baby"
Actually, eight words, if only six different ones.
Never heard about this before.
So does Mike get a credit on this one now?
Are there any other songs that are still in dispute?
You've really not looked at the credits on any BB comp or copy of
Pet Sounds
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Quote from: Lonely Summer on December 05, 2013, 06:19:30 PM
Quote from: The Legendary AGD on December 05, 2013, 03:58:25 PM
"Good night my baby
Sleep tight my baby"
Actually, eight words, if only six different ones.
Never heard about this before.
So does Mike get a credit on this one now?
Are there any other songs that are still in dispute?
You've really not looked at the credits on any BB comp or copy of
Pet Sounds
you've bought since the mid-90s, have you ?
Nor to like 84% of the topic threads on this message board.
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Didn't know where to post it, so forgive. Been listening to Love You & on track 6 it dawned on me that the line "Take it one little inch at a time now/'Til we're feelin' fine now" refers clearly to taking drugs. Is it a coincidence that Al's again given a task to sing trippy lyrics (1st was "...safety zone..." in Pet Sounds album)?
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I always thought the 'inch' line was a clear reference to sex.
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But just think about it, for a minute, that when people take drugs, they insert the needle little-by-little, right? Not fast, or it would be an overdose. And after, they start feeling fine. Idk, I think this theory makes perfect sense.
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Quote from: RangeRoverA1 on April 15, 2014, 03:30:40 AM
But just think about it, for a minute, that when people take drugs, they insert the needle little-by-little, right? Not fast, or it would be an overdose. And after, they start feeling fine. Idk, I think this theory makes perfect sense.
No. The "speed" at which one injects themselves has nothing to do with potentially overdosing.
One slides the needle into a satisfactory vein (as long as you've a new, sharp needle, it's like a hot knife through butter, no "little-by-little" about it), pulls back on the stopper to confirm that you're in (if the part of the syringe filled with the dope is then flooded with blood, you're good), and then one pushes it all in. As long as one finds a workable vein, the process is a very fast one, indeed.
Incidentally, I'm actually reminded more of this specific phenomena during "Hey Jude" ("let it out and let it in"), but I digress.
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