45's question

[Coachhill]

This may have been discussed all ready, but is there any song that was only on a 45, not a 45 and LP?

[Marcella]

Little Girl I Once Knew, Breakaway, Celebrate The News…right? There are people a heck of a lot smarter than me on here

[Andrew G. Doe]

This may have been discussed all ready, but is there any song that was only on a 45, not a 45 and LP?

Check out the singles discog on 10452 - non-LP singles are indicated by being underlined.

[Andrew G. Doe]

The following single sides never turned up on a regular release album (but some did on compilations and/or soundtracks):

Luau
The Lord's Prayer
The Little Girl I Once Knew
You're Welcome
Break Away
Celebrate The News
Wouldn't It Be Nice (live)
Child Of Winter
It's A Beautiful Day
The Beach Boys Medley
East Meets West
Rock & Roll To The Rescue
California Dreamin' (both versions)
Lady Liberty
Wipe Out*
Happy Endings
Problem Child

[* - I know, but I consider it a compilation)

[Freddie French-Pounce]

The following single sides never turned up on a regular release album (but some did on compilations and/or soundtracks):

Luau
The Lord's Prayer
The Little Girl I Once Knew
You're Welcome
Break Away
Celebrate The News
Wouldn't It Be Nice (live)
Child Of Winter
It's A Beautiful Day
The Beach Boys Medley
East Meets West
Rock & Roll To The Rescue
California Dreamin' (both versions)
Lady Liberty
Wipe Out*
Happy Endings
Problem Child

[* - I know, but I consider it a compilation)

What about the Live California Girls on the flip on Happy Endings?

[And where does the lie WIBN reside?]

[Mikie]

[And where does the lie WIBN reside?]

The single on 'Ode' Records.

[Peter Reum]

Also on the Big Sur Folk Festival album on Ode from 1970 (WIBN live).

[Mikie]

Also, a live version of "Good Vibrations" was on the flip side of the Rock & Roll To The Rescue 12". Don't think that was on anything else, was it?

[punkinhead]

Also, a live version of "Good Vibrations" was on the flip side of the Rock & Roll To The Rescue 12". Don't think that was on anything else, was it?

I'm almost 99% sure that's the Live in London recording of GV. Kinda lame they picked a 15 year old song. Why not a recent performance of GV, perhaps the 1980 Knebworth performance?

[bgas]

The following single sides never turned up on a regular release album (but some did on compilations and/or soundtracks):

Luau
The Lord's Prayer
The Little Girl I Once Knew
You're Welcome
Break Away
Celebrate The News
Wouldn't It Be Nice (live)
Child Of Winter
It's A Beautiful Day
The Beach Boys Medley
East Meets West
Rock & Roll To The Rescue
California Dreamin' (both versions)
Lady Liberty
Wipe Out*
Happy Endings
Problem Child

[* - I know, but I consider it a compilation)

I guess this one counts as a compilation Lp? 
>> 9/86   Brother SL9431   25 Years Of Good Vibrations **
 
**  This album was only available by sending in coupons from cans & bottles of Sunkist orange
  soda. It is the only place where the live recording of "Runaway" has been officially released <<

and while I'm there, I bought this LP at a concert, with the Program; so technically not only bought with soda cans...

[Shane]

One more... the "cheerleader" version of "Be True To Your School".

I'd love to hear that in stereo one day... wonder if the multitracks still exist?  Great arrangement. 

[bringahorseinhere?]

what about 'Kenny and the cadets' - barbie/what is a young girl....

does that fit into the category somewhere?...  or totally irrelevant..?...

Rb

[Andrew G. Doe]

what about 'Kenny and the cadets' - barbie/what is a young girl....

does that fit into the category somewhere?...  or totally irrelevant..?...

Rb

Not a Beach Boys release.  

Did that list off the top of my head, hence the omissions. Also didn't include different mixes.

If you check out the US discog on 10452, the full list is there - underlined = not on regular release album, italics = different mix to album version (single) or compilation (album).

[bringahorseinhere?]

yeah I know its not a 'beach boys' release..... but its a 'grey' area I reckon...

if Brian is one there, and Brian and Carl on the other..... must be pretty close addition...

to think of some other 'beach boys' songs.... have less involvement from the band members...

but I get your point AGD...... interesting thou, those Hite/Morgan sessions were not purchased and

'milked' through the Capitol tower........

just a thought..

RickB

[gxios]

Sumahama has a different ending on 45.

[Andrew G. Doe]

Not in the US. Only on a Japanese sampler, I think. Wave FX on the fade.

[curth]

How about "Living Doll" ?

[Andrew G. Doe]

Interesting point. IMHYWEO*...

Not strictly speaking 'released' - you got it with a Barbie doll, and yes, I did buy one - it's not a 45, and although it's credited to The Beach Boys, it's not, of course.

[* - In My Humble Yet Wholly Expert Opinion]

[smile-holland]

Sumahama has a different ending on 45.

Not in the US. Only on a Japanese sampler, I think. Wave FX on the fade.

I think gxios meant that the single release of Sumahama as the b-side of It's A Beautiful Day is either a shorter or longer edit.

Same goes for Hey Little Tomboy (b-side Peggy Sue); that's a longer edit.

And if we talk about single mixes/edits that were not released on albums at all, or only on compilations
... on top of my head:
- Never Learn Not To Love
- Susie Cincinnati
- Cuddle Up
- California Saga-California
- if WIBN live 1971 falls in this category, then also the Wouldn't It Be Nice / Surfer Girl single versions from the In Concert (1973) album. It was released in Australia

... technically speaking is Barbara Ann a shorter edit of the album version, right?

... and there's probably many more I can't remember right now.

[Freddie French-Pounce]

An incomplete list I had kicking about [Pre-MIC]

Surfin' [Single Mix]
Luau
Be True To Your School [Single Version]
Ganz Allien <--- (Was this officially released?)
Little Saint Nick [Single Mix]
The Lord's Prayer
The Little Girl I Once Knew
You're Welcome
Friends [Mono Single Mix]
Little Bird [Mono Single Mix]
Blue Birds... [Mono Single Mix] + [Percussion Overdub Version]
Never Learn... [Mono Single Mix (w/o intro)]
I Can Hear Music [Mono Single Mix]
All I Want To Do [Mono Single Mix]
Break Away
Celebrate The News
Cottonfields [Single Mix]
Wouldn't It Be Nice [Live At Big Sur 1970]
Sound Of Free [Dennis Wilson and Rumbo]
Lady [Dennis Wilson and Rumbo] [Original Mix]
Susie Cincinnati [Single Mix]
San Miguel
Cool, Cool Water [Single Edit]
Cuddle Up [Single Edit]
California Saga (On My Way To Sunny Californ-I-A) [Single Mix]
Sea Cruise
Rock And Roll Music ['Hot' Mix]
Rock And Roll Music [Single Mix]
It's O.K. [Single Mix]
It's A Beautiful Day
It's A Beautiful Day [7" Edit]
Here Comes The Night [7" Edit]
Here Comes The Night [12" Edit]
Runaway [Live]
Rock 'n' Roll To The Rescue (and all other mixes?)
California Dreamin'
Lady Liberty
Beach Boys Medley [Uptempo Long Version]
Beach Boys Medley [Uptempo Short Version]
Ballad Medley
Chasin' The Sky
East Meets West [With Frakie Valli and the Four Seasons]
Male Ego
Back In the USSR/Come Go With Me/Surfer Girl/Barbara Ann/Happy Birthday America [Live]
Happy Endings [With Little Richard]
California Girls [Live] (Happy Endings Flip)
Don't Worry baby [With The Everly Brotehrs]
Wipe out [Various Remixes]
Kokomo [Spanish Version]
Somewhere Near Japan [Single Mix]
Barbie [Flexi Disc Release]
Problem Child (and all other mixes?)
Howdi From Maui
Crocodile Rock
Summer In Paradise [Live]
Forever [Feat. John Stamos} [CHR Mix]
Forever [Feat. John Stamos} [AC Mix]
Fun, Fun, Fun [With Status Quo] + [Long Fade Version]
God Only Knows [Live 1996]
Do It Again [2012 Version]
Isn't it Time [Single Mix] + [Instrumental] (If anyone has the instrumental I'd love to hear it!)

[Jay]

Wasn't Be With Me issued somewhere in a slightly different mix?

[Andrew G. Doe]

There's only one mix, one recording of the original, 1961 "Surfin'". The one that's on the Candix & X singles, and the first album. The album track was re-EQd and generally cleaned up some, but it's the same recording.

[Freddie French-Pounce]

There's only one mix, one recording of the original, 1961 "Surfin'". The one that's on the Candix & X singles, and the first album. The album track was re-EQd and generally cleaned up some, but it's the same recording.

It's sped up too. New mix for me

[Andrew G. Doe]

Not a new mix at all, any more than when someone here tinkers with a BB song and calls it a new mix. Did anyone go back to the original multitracks ? Nope.

If I take the released version of "WIBN" and speed it up 15%, is that a new mix ? According to you, yes. 

Granted, I'm pretty sure that "Surfin'" was a two-track recording at best but even so, all Capitol did was tinker with the mono master.

[gxios]

The US 45 of Sumahama is mixed differently at the end- it's not an edit- I can't get to them now, but the difference is on one mix it fades with the vocals singing "Suma...Hama" over and over and the other just some "OOOH's".