Title: 45's question Post by: Coachhill on November 18, 2013, 02:20:08 PM This may have been discussed all ready, but is there any song that was only on a 45, not a 45 and LP?
Title: Re: 45's question Post by: Marcella on November 18, 2013, 02:21:10 PM Little Girl I Once Knew, Breakaway, Celebrate The News…right? There are people a heck of a lot smarter than me on here
Title: Re: 45's question Post by: Andrew G. Doe on November 18, 2013, 02:27:44 PM This may have been discussed all ready, but is there any song that was only on a 45, not a 45 and LP? Check out the singles discog on 10452 - non-LP singles are indicated by being underlined. Title: Re: 45's question Post by: Andrew G. Doe on November 18, 2013, 04:17:35 PM The following single sides never turned up on a regular release album (but some did on compilations and/or soundtracks):
Luau The Lord's Prayer The Little Girl I Once Knew You're Welcome Break Away Celebrate The News Wouldn't It Be Nice (live) Child Of Winter It's A Beautiful Day The Beach Boys Medley East Meets West Rock & Roll To The Rescue California Dreamin' (both versions) Lady Liberty Wipe Out* Happy Endings Problem Child [* - I know, but I consider it a compilation) Title: Re: 45's question Post by: Freddie French-Pounce on November 18, 2013, 04:51:01 PM The following single sides never turned up on a regular release album (but some did on compilations and/or soundtracks): Luau The Lord's Prayer The Little Girl I Once Knew You're Welcome Break Away Celebrate The News Wouldn't It Be Nice (live) Child Of Winter It's A Beautiful Day The Beach Boys Medley East Meets West Rock & Roll To The Rescue California Dreamin' (both versions) Lady Liberty Wipe Out* Happy Endings Problem Child [* - I know, but I consider it a compilation) What about the Live California Girls on the flip on Happy Endings? [And where does the lie WIBN reside?] Title: Re: 45's question Post by: Mikie on November 18, 2013, 06:10:47 PM [And where does the lie WIBN reside?] The single on 'Ode' Records. Title: Re: 45's question Post by: Peter Reum on November 18, 2013, 08:02:02 PM Also on the Big Sur Folk Festival album on Ode from 1970 (WIBN live).
Title: Re: 45's question Post by: Mikie on November 18, 2013, 08:14:02 PM Also, a live version of "Good Vibrations" was on the flip side of the Rock & Roll To The Rescue 12". Don't think that was on anything else, was it?
Title: Re: 45's question Post by: punkinhead on November 18, 2013, 08:33:14 PM Also, a live version of "Good Vibrations" was on the flip side of the Rock & Roll To The Rescue 12". Don't think that was on anything else, was it? I'm almost 99% sure that's the Live in London recording of GV. Kinda lame they picked a 15 year old song. Why not a recent performance of GV, perhaps the 1980 Knebworth performance?Title: Re: 45's question Post by: bgas on November 18, 2013, 08:58:32 PM The following single sides never turned up on a regular release album (but some did on compilations and/or soundtracks): Luau The Lord's Prayer The Little Girl I Once Knew You're Welcome Break Away Celebrate The News Wouldn't It Be Nice (live) Child Of Winter It's A Beautiful Day The Beach Boys Medley East Meets West Rock & Roll To The Rescue California Dreamin' (both versions) Lady Liberty Wipe Out* Happy Endings Problem Child [* - I know, but I consider it a compilation) I guess this one counts as a compilation Lp? >> 9/86 Brother SL9431 25 Years Of Good Vibrations ** ** This album was only available by sending in coupons from cans & bottles of Sunkist orange soda. It is the only place where the live recording of "Runaway" has been officially released << and while I'm there, I bought this LP at a concert, with the Program; so technically not only bought with soda cans... Title: Re: 45's question Post by: Shane on November 18, 2013, 10:02:42 PM One more... the "cheerleader" version of "Be True To Your School".
I'd love to hear that in stereo one day... wonder if the multitracks still exist? Great arrangement. Title: Re: 45's question Post by: bringahorseinhere? on November 18, 2013, 11:57:11 PM what about 'Kenny and the cadets' - barbie/what is a young girl....
does that fit into the category somewhere?... or totally irrelevant..?... Rb Title: Re: 45's question Post by: Andrew G. Doe on November 19, 2013, 12:41:48 AM what about 'Kenny and the cadets' - barbie/what is a young girl.... does that fit into the category somewhere?... or totally irrelevant..?... Rb Not a Beach Boys release. :) Did that list off the top of my head, hence the omissions. Also didn't include different mixes. If you check out the US discog on 10452, the full list is there - underlined = not on regular release album, italics = different mix to album version (single) or compilation (album). Title: Re: 45's question Post by: bringahorseinhere? on November 19, 2013, 03:14:52 AM yeah I know its not a 'beach boys' release..... but its a 'grey' area I reckon...
if Brian is one there, and Brian and Carl on the other..... must be pretty close addition... to think of some other 'beach boys' songs.... have less involvement from the band members... but I get your point AGD...... interesting thou, those Hite/Morgan sessions were not purchased and 'milked' through the Capitol tower........ just a thought.. RickB Title: Re: 45's question Post by: gxios on November 19, 2013, 04:32:11 AM Sumahama has a different ending on 45.
Title: Re: 45's question Post by: Andrew G. Doe on November 19, 2013, 05:01:32 AM Not in the US. Only on a Japanese sampler, I think. Wave FX on the fade.
Title: Re: 45's question Post by: curth on November 19, 2013, 07:02:08 AM How about "Living Doll" ?
Title: Re: 45's question Post by: Andrew G. Doe on November 19, 2013, 09:15:51 AM Interesting point. IMHYWEO*...
Not strictly speaking 'released' - you got it with a Barbie doll, and yes, I did buy one - it's not a 45, and although it's credited to The Beach Boys, it's not, of course. [* - In My Humble Yet Wholly Expert Opinion] Title: Re: 45's question Post by: smile-holland on November 20, 2013, 02:03:28 AM Sumahama has a different ending on 45. Not in the US. Only on a Japanese sampler, I think. Wave FX on the fade. I think gxios meant that the single release of Sumahama as the b-side of It's A Beautiful Day is either a shorter or longer edit. Same goes for Hey Little Tomboy (b-side Peggy Sue); that's a longer edit. And if we talk about single mixes/edits that were not released on albums at all, or only on compilations ... on top of my head: - Never Learn Not To Love - Susie Cincinnati - Cuddle Up - California Saga-California - if WIBN live 1971 falls in this category, then also the Wouldn't It Be Nice / Surfer Girl single versions from the In Concert (1973) album. It was released in Australia ... technically speaking is Barbara Ann a shorter edit of the album version, right? ... and there's probably many more I can't remember right now. Title: Re: 45's question Post by: Freddie French-Pounce on November 20, 2013, 02:39:02 AM An incomplete list I had kicking about [Pre-MIC]
Surfin' [Single Mix] Luau Be True To Your School [Single Version] Ganz Allien <--- (Was this officially released?) Little Saint Nick [Single Mix] The Lord's Prayer The Little Girl I Once Knew You're Welcome Friends [Mono Single Mix] Little Bird [Mono Single Mix] Blue Birds... [Mono Single Mix] + [Percussion Overdub Version] Never Learn... [Mono Single Mix (w/o intro)] I Can Hear Music [Mono Single Mix] All I Want To Do [Mono Single Mix] Break Away Celebrate The News Cottonfields [Single Mix] Wouldn't It Be Nice [Live At Big Sur 1970] Sound Of Free [Dennis Wilson and Rumbo] Lady [Dennis Wilson and Rumbo] [Original Mix] Susie Cincinnati [Single Mix] San Miguel Cool, Cool Water [Single Edit] Cuddle Up [Single Edit] California Saga (On My Way To Sunny Californ-I-A) [Single Mix] Sea Cruise Rock And Roll Music ['Hot' Mix] Rock And Roll Music [Single Mix] It's O.K. [Single Mix] It's A Beautiful Day It's A Beautiful Day [7" Edit] Here Comes The Night [7" Edit] Here Comes The Night [12" Edit] Runaway [Live] Rock 'n' Roll To The Rescue (and all other mixes?) California Dreamin' Lady Liberty Beach Boys Medley [Uptempo Long Version] Beach Boys Medley [Uptempo Short Version] Ballad Medley Chasin' The Sky East Meets West [With Frakie Valli and the Four Seasons] Male Ego Back In the USSR/Come Go With Me/Surfer Girl/Barbara Ann/Happy Birthday America [Live] Happy Endings [With Little Richard] California Girls [Live] (Happy Endings Flip) Don't Worry baby [With The Everly Brotehrs] Wipe out [Various Remixes] Kokomo [Spanish Version] Somewhere Near Japan [Single Mix] Barbie [Flexi Disc Release] Problem Child (and all other mixes?) Howdi From Maui Crocodile Rock Summer In Paradise [Live] Forever [Feat. John Stamos} [CHR Mix] Forever [Feat. John Stamos} [AC Mix] Fun, Fun, Fun [With Status Quo] + [Long Fade Version] God Only Knows [Live 1996] Do It Again [2012 Version] Isn't it Time [Single Mix] + [Instrumental] (If anyone has the instrumental I'd love to hear it!) Title: Re: 45's question Post by: Jay on November 20, 2013, 02:48:31 AM Wasn't Be With Me issued somewhere in a slightly different mix?
Title: Re: 45's question Post by: Andrew G. Doe on November 20, 2013, 02:51:04 AM There's only one mix, one recording of the original, 1961 "Surfin'". The one that's on the Candix & X singles, and the first album. The album track was re-EQd and generally cleaned up some, but it's the same recording.
Title: Re: 45's question Post by: Freddie French-Pounce on November 20, 2013, 03:43:15 AM There's only one mix, one recording of the original, 1961 "Surfin'". The one that's on the Candix & X singles, and the first album. The album track was re-EQd and generally cleaned up some, but it's the same recording. It's sped up too. New mix for me ;) Title: Re: 45's question Post by: Andrew G. Doe on November 20, 2013, 03:48:23 AM Not a new mix at all, any more than when someone here tinkers with a BB song and calls it a new mix. Did anyone go back to the original multitracks ? Nope.
If I take the released version of "WIBN" and speed it up 15%, is that a new mix ? According to you, yes. ;D Granted, I'm pretty sure that "Surfin'" was a two-track recording at best but even so, all Capitol did was tinker with the mono master. Title: Re: 45's question Post by: gxios on November 20, 2013, 03:59:19 AM The US 45 of Sumahama is mixed differently at the end- it's not an edit- I can't get to them now, but the difference is on one mix it fades with the vocals singing "Suma...Hama" over and over and the other just some "OOOH's".
Title: Re: 45's question Post by: dogear on November 21, 2013, 07:34:36 AM An incomplete list I had kicking about [Pre-MIC] Ganz Allien <--- (Was this officially released?) Ganz Allein (Really Lonesome) wasn't officially released at the time it was recorded, but there were two official German 45s with it: 1. 1990 - with EMI's permission the German Fanclub "California Saga" issued a limited edition (1000) with "Land Ahoy" as the B-side (Capitol mms 6003A) 2. Aug 12, 1991 Capitol rereleased "I get around" b/w In My Room and Ganz Allein (Capitol 1 006-204477-7). |