More About Brian/ Beck and New Album.

[donald]

Could it be the album is a turkey like GIOMH and they are trying to salvage it before release.......not to sound negative or anything....


Shane?   So famous he is known by a single name and can be counted among the elite: Sting, Cher, Bono, Beyonce, Lassie, Dracula, Popeye, and Lulu.

[Sheriff John Stone]

I'm a little confused by Jeff Beck's statements.

Beck refers to unfinished or half finished tracks. I understand that and don't doubt that. However, I thought Jeff Beck's remaining job/role was to provide guitar to those tracks. Not to diminish Jeff Beck's talent, but couldn't somebody in Brian's band - or a hired hand - provide the lead guitar parts? Or, is Beck insinuating that he was going to contribute to the CONTINUED COMPOSING of the unfinished tracks? Not that that would surprise me....

[rab2591]

I misinterpreted that whole quote. I thought he meant he had 3-4 songs left to work on. If no tracks were actually completed, that is disheartening.

[KittyKat]

Brian has a lot on his plate with the biopic going on. Remember, he is listed as a producer and there may be actual things to do connected to that, including the post-production phase. If there is supposed to be a double length album, then that may have been overreaching if he can't finish the tracks he already started. You would think Capitol would want product from him, but maybe they don't care. Where is Joe Thomas in all of this?

[Andrew G. Doe]

Brian has a lot on his plate with the biopic going on. Remember, he is listed as a producer and there may be actual things to do connected to that, including the post-production phase. If there is supposed to be a double length album, then that may have been overreaching if he can't finish the tracks he already started. You would think Capitol would want product from him, but maybe they don't care. Where is Joe Thomas in all of this?

1 - I don't think Brian's involvement with the bio pic goes beyond advisory.

2 - Care to show me where anyone other than a fan said the album will be a double ?

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

I'm a little confused by Jeff Beck's statements.

Beck refers to unfinished or half finished tracks. I understand that and don't doubt that. However, I thought Jeff Beck's remaining job/role was to provide guitar to those tracks. Not to diminish Jeff Beck's talent, but couldn't somebody in Brian's band - or a hired hand - provide the lead guitar parts? Or, is Beck insinuating that he was going to contribute to the CONTINUED COMPOSING of the unfinished tracks? Not that that would surprise me....

JBeck has very rarely contributed to the composition of his own albums; I don't think he'd be providing those kinds of services for Brian.

[SMiLE Brian]

Where do I apply to be Brian's manager?

[pixletwin]

Maybe Blondie is supplying the guitar work.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Where do I apply to be Brian's manager?

Monster.com

[SMiLE Brian]

Billy, get your resuime on there.....

[Sheriff John Stone]

I'm a little confused by Jeff Beck's statements.

Beck refers to unfinished or half finished tracks. I understand that and don't doubt that. However, I thought Jeff Beck's remaining job/role was to provide guitar to those tracks. Not to diminish Jeff Beck's talent, but couldn't somebody in Brian's band - or a hired hand - provide the lead guitar parts? Or, is Beck insinuating that he was going to contribute to the CONTINUED COMPOSING of the unfinished tracks? Not that that would surprise me....

JBeck has very rarely contributed to the composition of his own albums; I don't think he'd be providing those kinds of services for Brian.

Again, not to disparage Jeff Beck's guitar prowess, he's a legend, but...

Not since Brian's rock & roll days (1962 -1966) and certainly not in his solo years did Brian depend very much for the guitar to drive/carry his tracks. Specifically, very few tracks utilized a guitar solo. Blondie Chaplin, David Marks, Jeff Foskett would not be good replacements? Of course you wouldn't have the publicity of a Jeff Beck association unless his parts are locked into the existing tracks...

[Dudd]

Ergh... 

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Billy, get your resuime on there.....

sh*t, I would've done a hell of a better job with the sound on MIC, that's for damn sure. Live Wild Honey, I'm glaring in YOUR direction

[sandmountainslim]

Brian's career is managed by fools and a half dead iguana could do a better job most of the time.

It often seems that way..

Who exactly IS his management?   Does his BAND manage him?   
Too bad Alan Klein is dead

[KittyKat]

Someone named Jean Sievers. And Melinda, to a degree.I suspect Brian is difficult to manage and his enthusiasm varies. Jean also manages the musical portion of Jeff Bridges: career.

[smilethebeachboysloveyou]

Could it be the album is a turkey like GIOMH and they are trying to salvage it before release.......

There's a frightening thought.  At the very least, it looks like I'll have to readjust my expectations for this so as not to be disappointed.

[Gabo]

They clearly weren't very far along in their collaboration last fall. All they debuted on the road was an instrumental of "Danny Boy"

[Lonely Summer]

I have to wonder if Brian - and the other BB's, for that matter - would've done better to end on the high note that was C50/TWGMTR? Naw  Whoever heard of going out on top...unless your name was the Beatles?

[smilethebeachboysloveyou]

I have to wonder if Brian - and the other BB's, for that matter - would've done better to end on the high note that was C50/TWGMTR? Naw  Whoever heard of going out on top...unless your name was the Beatles?

The unfortunate thing is that I'm pretty sure Brian can still put out a reasonably good album if it's something he's half-interested in.

[KittyKat]

They clearly weren't very far along in their collaboration last fall. All they debuted on the road was an instrumental of "Danny Boy"

Jeff had already done a version of that song live, before he ever teamed up with Brian, so I don' t think that was part of their collaboration.  I'm not sure Beck really did have that much to add other than as a session guitarist. Maybe they did some kind of improv thing, but I don't think that style is Brian's long suit.

[Gabo]

I have to wonder if Brian - and the other BB's, for that matter - would've done better to end on the high note that was C50/TWGMTR? Naw  Whoever heard of going out on top...unless your name was the Beatles?

Well The Beatles had solo careers too

[lee]

Sounds like Jeff Beck has some sense. Completing the album and then touring together to promote the new album seems like common sense to me. Why they toured together before they had anything to promote didn't make much sense. I did attend one of the shows and left a Jeff Beck fan.

[Ron]

This is all so perplexing... but kind of enlightening at the same time.  A guy like Jeff Beck, although talented as hell, has always had to work to stay relevant, and to make a living.  So he has to make smart business decisions, and by doing that for 40 years, he's very, very sucessful at what he does.  He's got money, he's got his health, he's got a great career, and he's got the ability to be creative and make his artwork the way he wants to do it.

A guy like Brian, though, it seems is so talented, and had such success early on that he's been able to squander his career!  The Beach Boys (I.E... Brian) have ALWAYS had sh*t management.  If you look back at their career, it's easier to see the mistakes than it is to see the good decisions they made.  

So a guy like Beck who has had to work hard to get where he is, looks at it, and thinks "well, why don't we just record 2 full songs, instead of 5 half-songs" because he knows that's the way to get things accomplished.  Brian on the other hand still has the clout and rock-star status to just do whatever the hell he wants and half-ass it.  

I say that with all respect towards Brian, but I wish he'd (or his management) treat it like a job every once in awhile.  It's his decision to make, though, and he's certainly earned the right to do whatever he wants however he wants.  




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Ultimately, at the end of the day, though, a focused, driven, intelligent Jeff Beck on his best day isn't going to make a 'better' album than a screwing-around, rolling with the flow, making it up as he goes along Genius Brian Wilson.

[Lonely Summer]

I have to wonder if Brian - and the other BB's, for that matter - would've done better to end on the high note that was C50/TWGMTR? Naw  Whoever heard of going out on top...unless your name was the Beatles?

The unfortunate thing is that I'm pretty sure Brian can still put out a reasonably good album if it's something he's half-interested in.

Which leads us back to the eternal questions, like does Brian still have an interest in recording? Or touring? Or is he just doing it because it's what he's expected to do?

[Gabo]

Could it be the album is a turkey like GIOMH and they are trying to salvage it before release.......not to sound negative or anything....


Shane?   So famous he is known by a single name and can be counted among the elite: Sting, Cher, Bono, Beyonce, Lassie, Dracula, Popeye, and Lulu.

It's gonna be a turkey. If they are still mining 1998 (the best songs were recorded presumably for TWGMTR) and have a car song called "Run James Run" I have little doubt in my mind. Brian seems to no longer have any creative drive. Why make an album if it's only a half effort?
 

I have to wonder if Brian - and the other BB's, for that matter - would've done better to end on the high note that was C50/TWGMTR? Naw  Whoever heard of going out on top...unless your name was the Beatles?

The unfortunate thing is that I'm pretty sure Brian can still put out a reasonably good album if it's something he's half-interested in.

Which leads us back to the eternal questions, like does Brian still have an interest in recording? Or touring? Or is he just doing it because it's what he's expected to do?

Maybe the "new Landys" in his life believe he won't slip into severe depression again if he is recording/touring regularly. He's gonna be on the road forever.