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I dunno, the only thing that sounds different to me are the new chorused Brian vocals.
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It took a couple of listens, but I think I love this song. So cool. Oh, what could have been....
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Quote from: TimmyC on August 29, 2013, 03:02:09 PM
It took a couple of listens, but I think I love this song. So cool. Oh, what could have been....
Yeah, it was definitely a frustrating time for fans when this project just got scrapped. This is why TWGMTR was so important to me, it kind of finally completed that false start
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I'm not sure this MIC vocal isn't the same as the bootleg...it's so drastically slowed down from the booted version that maybe that's why BW's voice sounds so different?
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Were The Beach Boys on crystal meth?
Add this song to the endless amount of songs that they somehow decided not to release.
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Quote from: Help Me, Shady on August 29, 2013, 03:27:00 PM
Were The Beach Boys on crystal meth?
Add this song to the endless amount of songs that they somehow decided not to release.
It's mind-boggling, isn't it. What a fantastic song.
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Re: Question about Still A Mystery
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Quote from: STE on August 29, 2013, 04:03:50 AM
I speeded up the MIC version of 5% and it sounds more like the version we are used to and, I think, overall better.
Still a shame about the pitch-correction.
Thought it was well-established that it was the bootleg that was running fast all these years. I took the MIC version to be the actual speed and pitch of the song as recorded.
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Quote from: anazgnos on August 29, 2013, 04:56:22 PM
Quote from: STE on August 29, 2013, 04:03:50 AM
I speeded up the MIC version of 5% and it sounds more like the version we are used to and, I think, overall better.
Still a shame about the pitch-correction.
Thought it was well-established that it was the bootleg that was running fast all these years. I took the MIC version to be the actual speed and pitch of the song as recorded.
Well, he could have slowed the boot 5% too.
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Re: Question about Still A Mystery
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Quote from: anazgnos on August 29, 2013, 04:56:22 PM
Quote from: STE on August 29, 2013, 04:03:50 AM
I speeded up the MIC version of 5% and it sounds more like the version we are used to and, I think, overall better.
Still a shame about the pitch-correction.
Thought it was well-established that it was the bootleg that was running fast all these years. I took the MIC version to be the actual speed and pitch of the song as recorded.
it is. The Wilson/Paley boots are all at the incorrect sp end; some are too fast while some are too slow. My personal feeling is that this was a way of watermarking.
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Quote from: TimmyC on August 29, 2013, 03:02:09 PM
It took a couple of listens, but I think I love this song. So cool. Oh, what could have been....
Timmy, I've been saying for years that "You're Still A Mystery" is indisputable evidence that if the Beach Boys could just put aside their crap and let Brian do his thing, they could produce some really good stuff.
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Which is why, a couple of duff tracks aside, TWGMTR worked out as well as it did ...
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I think this song (and the production) is better than anything on TWGMTR, easily.
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Quote from: (Stephen Newcombe) on August 29, 2013, 12:17:00 AM
Quote from: runnersdialzero on August 29, 2013, 12:13:11 AM
Further proof that this guy should've been part of the reunion shows or album. So much more tastefully done than others who've filled the unfillable shoes Brian gave up for shoes made of cigarettes.
Foskett is weeping now. Like a little girl.
I doubt it. More like laughing at Runners' frustration, confident in his job security with Brian.
No offense, Runners. I just doubt Jeff is losing any sleep.
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Quote from: Wirestone on August 29, 2013, 07:20:50 PM
Which is why, a couple of duff tracks aside, TWGMTR worked out as well as it did ...
But Brian and Mike never got alone in a room, therefore it was a failure!
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Re: Question about Still A Mystery
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Quote from: DonnyL on August 29, 2013, 10:47:01 AM
'95 Brian was a cool singer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N90zRw-2fkQ
... similar to 1981 Brian:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBgipKCTmkM
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something happened between '95 & '98 ... he sounds totally uninterested and bored from then on.
I think that this video shows that Bri can still do it if he wants to, when he's not shouting words, just laid back singin'..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejRHLAnd83g
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Quote from: Wirestone on August 29, 2013, 07:20:50 PM
Which is why, a couple of duff tracks aside, TWGMTR worked out as well as it did ...
Exactly!
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Quote from: Phoenix on August 29, 2013, 11:13:46 PM
Quote from: (Stephen Newcombe) on August 29, 2013, 12:17:00 AM
Quote from: runnersdialzero on August 29, 2013, 12:13:11 AM
Further proof that this guy should've been part of the reunion shows or album. So much more tastefully done than others who've filled the unfillable shoes Brian gave up for shoes made of cigarettes.
Foskett is weeping now. Like a little girl.
I doubt it. More like laughing at Runners' frustration, confident in his job security with Brian.
No offense, Runners. I just doubt Jeff is losing any sleep.
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Re: Question about Still A Mystery
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Quote from: Beat-a-low Bill on August 29, 2013, 06:25:14 PM
Quote from: anazgnos on August 29, 2013, 04:56:22 PM
Thought it was well-established that it was the bootleg that was running fast all these years. I took the MIC version to be the actual speed and pitch of the song as recorded.
it is. The Wilson/Paley boots are all at the incorrect sp end; some are too fast while some are too slow. My personal feeling is that this was a way of watermarking.
According to what Bob Hanes told me years ago, you're 100% right on that feeling. (At least) two copies were made with the watermarking: one that plays at normal speed but not-so-good sound quality, and another that has better (albeit not perfect) sound but plays a bit fast; the latter was used to make
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, I believe. Bob told me to whom they traced each of these. We've heard of both (the one I'm not sure of may have been a certain BB author with an odd 'give me money and I'll write my next book' system, but I may be wrong), and the other was traced to another BB fan/author whose name I ABSOLUTELY remember but won't say who other than most of us have heard of him.
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My guess on the lead vox originally in question in this thread is: Bruce and Al.
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Quote from: monicker on August 29, 2013, 07:29:33 PM
I think this song (and the production) is better than anything on TWGMTR, easily.
Totally agree. Got to admit, I'd never heard this song at all before and I love it! So goes to show that these alterations made by Mark and Alan are perhaps only really a problem if you're really familiar with the originals...? I hate what they've done to Sail Plane Song but perhaps someone coming to it for the first time will just think it sounds great...
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Quote from: Disney Boy (1985) on August 30, 2013, 06:33:59 AM
Quote from: monicker on August 29, 2013, 07:29:33 PM
I think this song (and the production) is better than anything on TWGMTR, easily.
Totally agree. Got to admit, I'd never heard this song at all before and I love it! So goes to show that these alterations made by Mark and Alan are perhaps only really a problem if you're really familiar with the originals...? I hate what they've done to Sail Plane Song but perhaps someone coming to it for the first time will just think it sounds great...
It's all down to taste. Personally, I like what they did both to SPS and R'n'R Music despite knowing the earlier versions, and dislike this version Of "Fallin' In Love".
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Re: Question about Still A Mystery
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Quote from: Micha on August 30, 2013, 06:22:47 AM
My guess on the lead vox originally in question in this thread is: Bruce and Al.
I think it's Matt and Bruce. Al is really prominent on the "tell me your secrets" and related lines, though.
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Agree, Al and Matt.....took me a while to pinpoint Matt, then read the accompanying book, and it credits Matt.
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Quote from: Wah Wah Wah Ooooo on August 28, 2013, 07:10:04 AM
I've had the bootleg of this for years and always wondered this...
Who sings the high lead vocal on the chorus? The "It's happening again...." part. It sounds like Bruce a little, Brian a little, or maybe Bruce and Brian together. I just can't tell. It's almost too smooth to be Brian which is why I think maybe Bruce.
Any ideas?
On the boot I always thought it was Brian; now being able to hear the clean version it is obvious that it is Matt (although another voice--Al, Bruce, Brian--MAY be with him). Agree that Al is very clearly on the chorus, "Give it to me straight now", etc.
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Re: Question about Still A Mystery
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Quote from: EgoHanger1966 on August 30, 2013, 07:04:38 AM
Quote from: Micha on August 30, 2013, 06:22:47 AM
My guess on the lead vox originally in question in this thread is: Bruce and Al.
I think it's Matt and Bruce. Al is really prominent on the "tell me your secrets" and related lines, though.
it's Matt and Carl singing the high lead in the choruses.
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