So who's been to BAD and M&B this summer?

[Nicko1234]

I don't find it that bad that he didn't mention Brian, but it seems disrespectful to include Carl's virtual presence and not Dennis's.

I`m not sure about that. Firstly because the main reason is presumably because Forever wasn`t a hit. And also because over the years Brian and Al have both done tonnes of shows where they have dedicated songs to Carl but haven`t mentioned Dennis. This isn`t all that different.

[drbeachboy]

I don't find it that bad that he didn't mention Brian, but it seems disrespectful to include Carl's virtual presence and not Dennis's.

Probably due as much about singing God Only Knows. The only big song Dennis did was Do You Wanna Dance. I doubt they have video of Dennis performing that one.

[bringahorseinhere?]

actually there is a clip of Dennis doing 'do you wanna dance' ........  they could have used that perhaps...

its the shindig performance..... they could use/edit that to make things work....... and especially if they have the audio multitrack, they

could isolate Dennis' lead vocal, and perform the rest live.........unless the vocal is not separated.......

this is the clip I mean..... poor quality thou

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nztxd92hl0g

Cheers, RickB

[RubberSoul13]

I wouldn't like that...I don't think Dennis would like to be remembered in concert not after night by "Do You Wanna Dance".......

[Alan Boyd]

A couple things that annoyed me.  Mike never mentioned Brian even once and seemed to make a point of not showing Brian in pictures on the video screen with the exception of album covers.  However, Mike did make a point to stop the show and tell the audience that his friend John Stamos will be turning 50 on the 19th and showed a couple full screen pictures of the guy.  Seriously?

It's my understanding that neither Brian nor Alan wanted their likenesses to be displayed within the context of the touring Beach Boys performances.  BRI archival footage and vintage photos of the group had been used as part of the video presentation for the first few shows of the summer tour that kicked off last month, but all of that material has since been taken down, with the exception of the Carl Wilson footage and photos used in the "God Only Knows" video.

[Pretty Funky]

Hence the reason they didn't get a mention perhaps.

[gfac22]

A couple things that annoyed me.  Mike never mentioned Brian even once and seemed to make a point of not showing Brian in pictures on the video screen with the exception of album covers.  However, Mike did make a point to stop the show and tell the audience that his friend John Stamos will be turning 50 on the 19th and showed a couple full screen pictures of the guy.  Seriously?

It's my understanding that neither Brian nor Alan wanted their likenesses to be displayed within the context of the touring Beach Boys performances.  BRI archival footage and vintage photos of the group had been used as part of the video presentation for the first few shows of the summer tour that kicked off last month, but all of that material has since been taken down, with the exception of the Carl Wilson footage and photos used in the "God Only Knows" video.

That's interesting, because I noticed that Brian and Al were conspicuously absent from all the pictures during GOK at the show tonight.  I knew it couldn't have just been a coincidence.  Let the "Mike is trying to erase Brian and Al from the group's history lol" posts begin. 

Also of note - before the gates opened at the show tonight, the band were doing their soundcheck (in plain view of everybody waiting in line) and they were rehearsing Forever, complete with Dennis vocal and pics on the screen.  They didn't perform it during the show, though.

[Rocky Raccoon]

I don't find it that bad that he didn't mention Brian, but it seems disrespectful to include Carl's virtual presence and not Dennis's.

Probably due as much about singing God Only Knows. The only big song Dennis did was Do You Wanna Dance. I doubt they have video of Dennis performing that one.

I think You Are So Beautiful would make sense, as that was his concert showcase for a long time.

[KittyKat]

Maybe Dennis's family didn't want it, just as Brian and Al didn't want to be featured.

[RubberSoul13]

A couple things that annoyed me.  Mike never mentioned Brian even once and seemed to make a point of not showing Brian in pictures on the video screen with the exception of album covers.  However, Mike did make a point to stop the show and tell the audience that his friend John Stamos will be turning 50 on the 19th and showed a couple full screen pictures of the guy.  Seriously?

It's my understanding that neither Brian nor Alan wanted their likenesses to be displayed within the context of the touring Beach Boys performances.  BRI archival footage and vintage photos of the group had been used as part of the video presentation for the first few shows of the summer tour that kicked off last month, but all of that material has since been taken down, with the exception of the Carl Wilson footage and photos used in the "God Only Knows" video.

That's interesting, because I noticed that Brian and Al were conspicuously absent from all the pictures during GOK at the show tonight.  I knew it couldn't have just been a coincidence.  Let the "Mike is trying to erase Brian and Al from the group's history lol" posts begin. 

Also of note - before the gates opened at the show tonight, the band were doing their soundcheck (in plain view of everybody waiting in line) and they were rehearsing Forever, complete with Dennis vocal and pics on the screen.  They didn't perform it during the show, though.

I had the same experience with "Forever" in Baltimore on July 20th...Totten said they're working on it. But Bruce sang "God Only Knows" that night. Has it been done at an outdoor venue with M&B yet? It seems to me that they only have a screen inside.

[Nicko1234]

Maybe Dennis's family didn't want it, just as Brian and Al didn't want to be featured.

I doubt they get any say.

Presumably the Dennis one will make an appearance when they feel the time is right.

[Micha]

actually there is a clip of Dennis doing 'do you wanna dance' ........  they could have used that perhaps...

its the shindig performance..... they could use/edit that to make things work....... and especially if they have the audio multitrack, they

could isolate Dennis' lead vocal, and perform the rest live.........unless the vocal is not separated.......

this is the clip I mean..... poor quality thou

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nztxd92hl0g

Cheers, RickB

They could also just use one of Dennis' studio takes and play live to that. I wonder if that wasn't what they did on "Forever".

[filledeplage]

I don't find it that bad that he didn't mention Brian, but it seems disrespectful to include Carl's virtual presence and not Dennis's.

Probably due as much about singing God Only Knows. The only big song Dennis did was Do You Wanna Dance. I doubt they have video of Dennis performing that one.

I think You Are So Beautiful would make sense, as that was his concert showcase for a long time.

You Are So Beautiful - that is Dennis' most eloquently performed song.  The ownership credit thing might be a problem, I don't know.  There are some which have appeared on YouTube.  And, Stamos, promoted Forever, covering it, and singing lead in Dennis' honor.  Stamos rocks in my book.  He worked with Carl, and that works for me. 

I've seen a half dozen or so Touring Band shows, and think they are evolving, and working hard on deeper setlists, and video.  GOK is still amazing, and provides a sense of C50 tributes, for those who couldn't get there. Dennis is visible in old footage.  Mike has given Brian credit throughout post C50. 

Totten, and the guys have done an amazing job post C50. They are re-energized and each show is better than the last. 

I have maybe a dumb question.  Who will be in the BAD/Jeff Beck tour photo op? Is it Brian and Jeff? Or, are Al and Dave included in the fan photo. Someone told me that when calling about the different packages, that it was only Brian and Jeff for the fan photo.  Thanks, so much, if someone can find that out. 

[Peadar 'Big Dinner' O'Driscoll]

John Stamos might be Mikes best friend but is Mike Love Johns best friend? - think we need to know 

[filledeplage]

John Stamos might be Mikes best friend but is Mike Love Johns best friend? - think we need to know 

Not the point. Irrelevant. Issue is "tribute video for Dennis." I have no doubt they will find one that works for the fans, as well as for the band. 

I think Stamos brings a whole generation to the table, and who, probably without even knowing it, even with Brian in cameos on Full House, expanded the overall awareness of BB music, to a generation, whose brand was rap, hip hop, and country rock.  Like him or dislike him, Stamos worked with Carl's Beach Boys, likely learning much.  And, Carl did lead on Forever after Dennis' death.  But, Stamos put it into the "global marketplace" via the worldwide syndication of Full House.

[Peadar 'Big Dinner' O'Driscoll]

John Stamos might be Mikes best friend but is Mike Love Johns best friend? - think we need to know 

Not the point. Irrelevant. Issue is "tribute video for Dennis." I have no doubt they will find one that works for the fans, as well as for the band. 

I think Stamos brings a whole generation to the table, and who, probably without even knowing it, even with Brian in cameos on Full House, expanded the overall awareness of BB music, to a generation, whose brand was rap, hip hop, and country rock.  Like him or dislike him, Stamos worked with Carl's Beach Boys, likely learning much.  And, Carl did lead on Forever after Dennis' death.  But, Stamos put it into the "global marketplace" via the worldwide syndication of Full House.

Well. it was just a joke. Personally I couldn't care less about Stamos/Full House etc as it never even entered my consciousness growing up but I guess in America it likely was a starting point for people to get into the band and delve beneath the cheesy bs that was portrayed in the series.

On the other hand it also likely helped propel the Mike Love BB parody and put lots of other people off ever listening to the band.

[ontor pertawst]

I don't find it that bad that he didn't mention Brian, but it seems disrespectful to include Carl's virtual presence and not Dennis's.

The Ghost of Dennis Wilson requested his likeness not used as he considered it disrespectful. Especially if they were gonna segue into a Stamos birthday routine.

[schiaffino]

I'm going to the show tonight near Montreal, will let u all know how M&B behave

[drbeachboy]

John Stamos might be Mikes best friend but is Mike Love Johns best friend? - think we need to know 

Not the point. Irrelevant. Issue is "tribute video for Dennis." I have no doubt they will find one that works for the fans, as well as for the band. 

I think Stamos brings a whole generation to the table, and who, probably without even knowing it, even with Brian in cameos on Full House, expanded the overall awareness of BB music, to a generation, whose brand was rap, hip hop, and country rock.  Like him or dislike him, Stamos worked with Carl's Beach Boys, likely learning much.  And, Carl did lead on Forever after Dennis' death.  But, Stamos put it into the "global marketplace" via the worldwide syndication of Full House.

Well. it was just a joke. Personally I couldn't care less about Stamos/Full House etc as it never even entered my consciousness growing up but I guess in America it likely was a starting point for people to get into the band and delve beneath the cheesy bs that was portrayed in the series.

On the other hand it also likely helped propel the Mike Love BB parody and put lots of other people off ever listening to the band.

If even one kid got turned on to The Boys through that show, then that is one more fan to add to the fold. The Beach Boys shows were going to be the same whether they were on Full House or not. You don't like the dumb show? Fine, but don't tell me that it didn't help their popularity to a younger generation. The music is the music no matter what the guys singing do. See, that is the difference with The Beach Boys, no matter who the actual band is or does, it is the music that shines.

[Peadar 'Big Dinner' O'Driscoll]

You don't like the dumb show? Fine, but don't tell me that it didn't help their popularity to a younger generation.

yeah...pretty sure I didn't tell you that

[drbeachboy]

You don't like the dumb show? Fine, but don't tell me that it didn't help their popularity to a younger generation.

yeah...pretty sure I didn't tell you that

My answer was strictly in reference to your last (parody) sentence. Many people will tell you that Mike's show, pre and post Carl were/are very good shows. So, where is the parody? Or were you just being a smart-ass and bashing Mike because it's the chic thing to do?

[HeyJude]

This is just weird. Two deceased band members are (or will be) part of the show, yet three other living members that wanted to keep all five together (and include the two members who have passed) are not part of the show? A tribute to Carl and Dennis is always a good thing. But will I have to wait for the death of Al Jardine and Brian Wilson to hear them sing ever again at a show billed as "The Beach Boys?"

[bossaroo]

good question

[Peadar 'Big Dinner' O'Driscoll]

You don't like the dumb show? Fine, but don't tell me that it didn't help their popularity to a younger generation.

yeah...pretty sure I didn't tell you that

My answer was strictly in reference to your last (parody) sentence. Many people will tell you that Mike's show, pre and post Carl were/are very good shows. So, where is the parody? Or were you just being a smart-ass and bashing Mike because it's the chic thing to do?

No it wasn't, your answer was in reference to what I said about the show. Don't twist it just for the sake of arguing.

[drbeachboy]

You don't like the dumb show? Fine, but don't tell me that it didn't help their popularity to a younger generation.

yeah...pretty sure I didn't tell you that

My answer was strictly in reference to your last (parody) sentence. Many people will tell you that Mike's show, pre and post Carl were/are very good shows. So, where is the parody? Or were you just being a smart-ass and bashing Mike because it's the chic thing to do?

No it wasn't, your answer was in reference to what I said about the show. Don't twist it just for the sake of arguing.

Ok Carnac, what else am I thinking?