AGD banned?

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

I think that will definitely helped. You know... a month or so ago I predicted it would be next week. Hope I'm right!

[Jay]

Of course, I don't mean that the board should descend into chaos in the literal sense. I was just trying to illustrate how it might take something drastic to really drive home how serious all of the mods are about getting us all in line. I'm including myself here, because I myself have made posts giving out my fair share of the abuse(in the same exact thread that got Andrew banned, actually). I deleted my comment about an hour or so after making it, though.

[MBE]

I think the problem is more with the internet than anything. Message boards need strong moderation. Frankly I like AGD a lot too, but we do have to all get treated the same.

I personally love message boards because other corners of the internet offer no protection.
 
I got flamed bad by a guy with a blog because of an interview I did where I merely expressed my opinion. It really effected me because they guy had HATE for me. Real HATE. It is scary to know that because I try to go against popular belief when I feel it to be right (merely on music mind you) some people wish me personal failure and who knows what else. So what recourse do I have? I do nothing and hopefully it will go away. After all it took me a full year to find it myself. If I do something, which I have all rights to do as there is slander there, more problems come up. One, like all internet flamers they don't use their real name. Two, who is to say that they won't post something even worse?

Not looking for pity in sharing this, I did choose be a somewhat public figure as a writer. No regrets, I love my job. I get to talk on a professional level with people who I never dreamed of meeting or speaking with. Some have become true friends. I know anything you do in public brings some nuts out, but I have been working on my career since age 15. I am 37 now and just getting my first major solo book published. I work my ass off solely because I feel I was put here to write about the artists I love. Should some prick be allowed to spout off and tear me apart systematically? No, but (and this is the reason I did share this) that's what the internet is without moderation.

[SMiLE Brian]

I don't understand why everybody is so harsh on Billy and Jason, they do a great job here with SMiLE Holland.

[drbeachboy]

I don't understand why everybody is so harsh on Billy and Jason, they do a great job here with SMiLE Holland.

I agree, they all do a great job. It's gotta be more than tough dealing with all of us. They are following the rules. Some of us asked to revisit the rules. Maybe a tweak might be necessary?

[Jason]

I don't understand why everybody is so harsh on Billy and Jason, they do a great job here with SMiLE Holland.

Don't forget Jonas, our long-missing (but very busy with work and school) comrade!

[Mikie]

For the uninitiated. Smile-Holland has a real name. It's Klaas. He's got class and doesn't swear all the time and go emo here. He's fair and makes wise decisions on the board and his posts are usually uncontroversial. I like it when he posts parts of his record collection.

So we have Klaas, Jason, and Billy as moderators.  Haven't seen Jonas (Joe) here in years and never saw him warn or ban anybody so I don't know what he does. I should take his place.  

[grillo]

Hey, I was trying to be light-hearted about the whole thing! I just miss AGD. And yeah, I was talking about the Beatles threads because (a) I can't stand the flippin' Beatles, and (B) I am not at all into the flippin Beatles!
I don't envy your position as moderator but I do appreciate that you, or somebody, must put a lot of work into keeping this board up and running (something I have absolutely no idea about how that works!)  and, most importantly I want my AGD!
(hopefully the emoticons help)

[Chocolate Shake Man]

And yeah, I was talking about the Beatles threads because (a) I can't stand the flippin' Beatles, and (B) I am not at all into the flippin Beatles!

That's what Billy used to say!

[smile-holland]

For the uninitiated. Smile-Holland has a real name. It's Klaas. He's got class and doesn't swear all the time and go emo here. He's fair and makes wise decisions on the board and his posts are usually uncontroversial. I like it when he posts parts of his record collection.

So we have Klaas, Jason, and Billy as moderators.  Haven't seen Jonas (Jon) here in years and never saw him warn or ban anybody so I don't know what he does. I should take his place. 

Sounds like an unsolicited resume, Mikie 

As for the banning / unbanning discussion. All mods, me included, have not always been consequent in our decisions, mostly due to not acting on issues directly or not at all. Tough part is that we are fans as well, and like to discuss along to like all of us here, so it's a double role we have. For me - and I'm sure that goes for Jason, Billy and Joe as well, warning and banning isn't a fun job at all. We try to give our best judgement. And if we're wrong about a decision, we're not too proud to admit that if one of you (or one of the other mods) point that out. As long as you all know that we only take drastic decisions if we think it benefits the board's future.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

And yeah, I was talking about the Beatles threads because (a) I can't stand the flippin' Beatles, and (B) I am not at all into the flippin Beatles!

That's what Billy used to say!

Sure is, which is why I made that thread in the first place. If it wasn't for it, I wouldn't be currently obsessing over them!

I apologize though for taking it the wrong way.

[rogerlancelot]

So this thread really isn't about the AGD Band? I've been trying to find out more information about them which led me to this thread which isn't about them at all. What a bummer.

[leggo of my ego]

So I wonder is this really sinking in as we discuss AGD's current banning.

He's a two-time loser, one more slip up and he's a gone goose according to Mods.

I hope he has seen the light. 

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Me too.

[Iron Horse-Apples]

Well i apologize for judging him, and i have apologized for my actions many times and i was antoginzed to what happened and lost it, and also most of you didnt even take it seriously, even after i was banned, it hurts me that even after i apologized this still goes on, like hell like everyone has problems, i was going threw alot and unfortanly had a meltdown.

I don't care how many times you apologized. I was sitting here with my 6 year old next to me when those pictures flashed up. Luckily I put the lid down quick, and she didn't see, but you could have scarred her for life. I was and still am sick to the stomach every time i see your name. You are a repugnant individual and should have been permentantly banned, If your personal problems lead to "meltdowns" where you feel the need to post pictures of dead children then you shouldn't be allowed an internet connection. Simple as that.

[pixletwin]

Well i apologize for judging him, and i have apologized for my actions many times and i was antoginzed to what happened and lost it, and also most of you didnt even take it seriously, even after i was banned, it hurts me that even after i apologized this still goes on, like hell like everyone has problems, i was going threw alot and unfortanly had a meltdown.

I don't care how many times you apologized. I was sitting here with my 6 year old next to me when those pictures flashed up. Luckily I put the lid down quick, and she didn't see, but you could have scarred her for life. I was and still am sick to the stomach every time i see your name. You are a repugnant individual and should have been permentantly banned, If your personal problems lead to "meltdowns" where you feel the need to post pictures of dead children then you shouldn't be allowed an internet connection. Simple as that.

My 10 year old just happened to be passing by and DID see it. I have a lot of respect for Billy. He has his reasons I guess for letting him back in. But I agree. If I were a mod, this guy would never be allowed anywhere near this site. For him to come in here and seek sympathy (and he got it too!) infuriates me.

[Jason]

+1 to what pixletwin said.

Andrew, if you're reading this...just make sure to post some gore pictures after a potential meltdown and the Smiley board will not only welcome you back with open arms, but blame others for your meltdown!

[Iron Horse-Apples]

Anyone who threatens the well being of a child will NEVER be forgiven. Pixeltwin, I'm so very sorry your child saw that. That's really upset me. The fact that pictures like that exist make me in equal measures angry and tearful. That people actively seek them out is abhorrent.  

So, Ethan, you can bleat on all you want about how people aren't letting it drop. Do you not understand how much this AFFECTED some of us? I saw those pictures for less than a second and a year later they're still burned on my memory.   The fact you're trying to solicit sympathy proves you have no real remorse over your actions. Real remorse would be feeling so ashamed you never came back here.

Wish I hadn't opened this thread. Somehow I don't think I'll sleep well now. Glad however to see I'm not alone in my feelings, even if we do seem to be a minority.

[pixletwin]

To add to that...

If I had been banned for posting such reprehensible things I would not be so utterly PRESUMPTIOUS as to post in this thread. The fact that you did post in here as if you had clean hands was hypocritical in the extreme only demonstrated to me that you have no understanding of why what you did was wrong in the first place.

[Jason]

Anyone who threatens the well being of a child will NEVER be forgiven. Pixeltwin, I'm so very sorry your child saw that. That's really upset me. The fact that pictures like that exist make me in equal measures angry and tearful. That people actively seek them out is abhorrent.  

So, Ethan, you can bleat on all you want about how people aren't letting it drop. Do you not understand how much this AFFECTED some of us? I saw those pictures for less than a second and a year later they're still burned on my memory.   The fact you're trying to solicit sympathy proves you have no real remorse over your actions. Real remorse would be feeling so ashamed you never came back here.

Wish I hadn't opened this thread. Somehow I don't think I'll sleep well now. Glad however to see I'm not alone in my feelings, even if we do seem to be a minority.

I feel ya there, Stephen. Agree with you and pixletwin totally.

[EthanJames]

Well thanks for writing that, now i'm gonna hang myself...

[EthanJames]

Knowing children saw that is even more painful, life wasn't never fun for me anyway i guess it's over for me.

[Jason]

Actions have consequences. Own them and grow up.

[Iron Horse-Apples]

Grow a pair.

Why not try apologising to Pixeltwin whose 10 year old child saw the pictures you posted.

And if you do kill yourself, I promise you I won't feel responsible. That responsibility lies with you. How dare you try to transfer your issues onto us.

[Jason]

You know what? f*** this guy...little fucking sociopath. He's banned.