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« Reply #250 on: June 23, 2013, 09:36:48 AM »

Also, didn't Carl co-write I Went To Sleep and Good Timin'? Why the instant assumption that Brian provided all the good stuff with these two gems?

Add River Song and Rainbows to the list. The two most instantly catchy POB tracks have his name as co-writer.
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« Reply #251 on: June 23, 2013, 09:45:07 AM »

Also Dance, Dance, Dance, Friends, Be Here In The Morning, It's About Time and All This Is That.
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« Reply #252 on: June 23, 2013, 10:28:19 AM »

I rather dislike I Can Hear Music.
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« Reply #253 on: June 23, 2013, 11:00:34 AM »

^ Wow!

I LOVE I Can Hear Music. My favorite vocal by Carl and I dig the production as well. One of my absolute favorite BB recordings.

Carl also produced Time To Get Alone.
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« Reply #254 on: June 23, 2013, 11:09:47 AM »

^ Wow!

I LOVE I Can Hear Music. My favorite vocal by Carl and I dig the production as well. One of my absolute favorite BB recordings.

Absolutely agree. When he sings that "I close my eyes and here it comes agaaain" part....just wow. Sonic heaven to these ears.
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« Reply #255 on: June 23, 2013, 11:21:42 AM »

^ Wow!

I LOVE I Can Hear Music. My favorite vocal by Carl and I dig the production as well. One of my absolute favorite BB recordings.

Absolutely agree. When he sings that "I close my eyes and here it comes agaaain" part....just wow. Sonic heaven to these ears.

One of my favorite lead vocals in the Beach Boys catalogue. It's an amazing song.
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« Reply #256 on: June 23, 2013, 11:29:35 AM »

I rather dislike I Can Hear Music.

But doesn't it SOUND real nice? COME AHN
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« Reply #257 on: June 23, 2013, 12:11:33 PM »

Also Dance, Dance, Dance, Friends, Be Here In The Morning, It's About Time and All This Is That.

And Your Sweet Love if I remember correctly.
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« Reply #258 on: June 23, 2013, 12:26:59 PM »

it's just not a great song in my (unpopular) opinion.


i also find it depressing that they were releasing cover material for a single in 1969, when Brian and the others were perfectly capable of writing excellent originals. a bit like releasing And Then I Kissed Her in 1967. just a huge misstep.
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« Reply #259 on: June 23, 2013, 12:57:46 PM »

I rather dislike I Can Hear Music.

But doesn't it SOUND real nice? COME AHN

not big fan of the prominent accoustic guitar in that song, but that aside it is a musical gem
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« Reply #260 on: June 23, 2013, 01:25:06 PM »

it's just not a great song in my (unpopular) opinion.


i also find it depressing that they were releasing cover material for a single in 1969, when Brian and the others were perfectly capable of writing excellent originals. a bit like releasing And Then I Kissed Her in 1967. just a huge misstep.
Wasn't Capitol responsible for that and not the Beach Boys?
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« Reply #261 on: June 23, 2013, 01:40:07 PM »

You can't compare I Can Hear Music with a cover version as unimaginative (if admittedly pleasant) as Then I Kissed Her. Music is probably the best cover they ever did, easily on par with Sloop John B and Do You Wanna Dance.
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« Reply #262 on: June 23, 2013, 01:57:05 PM »

ICHM was one of the first songs I ever heard as a kid in the 80's. Gotta love that song.
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« Reply #263 on: June 23, 2013, 02:15:44 PM »

I've no problem with them releasing cover versions as singles just so long as they were good - and I Can Hear Music was great! It vastly improved on the original, and to me was definitely of single quality. Bluebirds Over The Mountain on the other hand... Oh dear.
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« Reply #264 on: June 23, 2013, 02:23:39 PM »

it's just not a great song in my (unpopular) opinion.


i also find it depressing that they were releasing cover material for a single in 1969, when Brian and the others were perfectly capable of writing excellent originals. a bit like releasing And Then I Kissed Her in 1967. just a huge misstep.

Would any of those other original songs on 20/20 really have been bigger hits than I Can Hear Music?
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« Reply #265 on: June 23, 2013, 02:30:37 PM »

Carl also produced Time To Get Alone.

No, Brian produced that track. I always preferred the Redwood vocals as well. The Beach Boys version (with vocals produced by Carl) lacks that wonderful harmony in the chorus that completely lifted the track into that magical higher plateau that only Brian could manage. Also the lovely horn solo is missing in the BB version.
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« Reply #266 on: June 23, 2013, 03:50:32 PM »

it's just not a great song in my (unpopular) opinion.


i also find it depressing that they were releasing cover material for a single in 1969, when Brian and the others were perfectly capable of writing excellent originals. a bit like releasing And Then I Kissed Her in 1967. just a huge misstep.

Would any of those other original songs on 20/20 really have been bigger hits than I Can Hear Music?

probably not. I'm just saying they were capable of writing and releasing better material. They had one the greatest songwriters alive in the band. The production, arrangement, and vocals are all top-notch on ICHM, but ultimately the song/melody does very little for me. It's just kind of there. And as good as the voices are, there's just something... or someONE rather, missing.
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« Reply #267 on: June 23, 2013, 04:12:33 PM »

I'd take Summer in Paradise over at least 95% of today's top 40 (I find SIP more uninspired and lame than it is irritating)

It's the production and vocals that make the Beach Boys such a good band to listen to, rather than the songwriting (with only Brian's greatest achievements being any exception to this rule).  That's not a knock on the songwriting; I just think those other elements make far more of a tangible difference on the listening experience.  Thinking about it this way, the vast majority of songs I've ever heard would be a-okay with 60s and early 70's Beach Boys vocals and production.

Lyrics are miniscule.  They have to really blatantly stand out as meaningful or dreadful to be a detriment or addition to the song.  The Beach Boys have only rarely reached extremes like these.

I would never tell someone I love listening to Beach Boys unless I know them very well, will never see them again, or know they will either share these sentiments or be entirely indifferent. (not really an opinion, but a way of living!)

"The Beach Boys" is a terribly gimmicky band name.  Probably the worst relative to its musical achievements.

I wish Pet Sounds had more diversity in terms of the vocals. At this point in the band's career they had five great lead vocalists (relative to pretty any other band I can think of) and part of made their mid-period so interesting was how the singing could shift from song to song.  Partly for this reason, I'm most excited to pop in albums like 20/20 and Surf's Up.

Holland is their second most consistently good album, but not their second best.
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« Reply #268 on: June 23, 2013, 04:16:52 PM »

I would never tell someone I love listening to Beach Boys unless I know them very well, will never see them again, or know they will either share these sentiments or be entirely indifferent. (not really an opinion, but a way of living!)

At parties and get-togethers, if the subject of music comes up I'll dive right into why The Beach Boys are the greatest band ever. I don't make many friends at parties Cheesy
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« Reply #269 on: June 23, 2013, 04:18:54 PM »

Man, Carl, Dennis and Pet Sounds are really taking hits in this thread
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« Reply #270 on: June 23, 2013, 04:22:04 PM »

Carl also produced Time To Get Alone.

No, Brian produced that track. I always preferred the Redwood vocals as well. The Beach Boys version (with vocals produced by Carl) lacks that wonderful harmony in the chorus that completely lifted the track into that magical higher plateau that only Brian could manage. Also the lovely horn solo is missing in the BB version.

Ah, so it was the vocals produced by Carl. Thanks for that info. I was just going by the Carl production credit on my vinyl copy of 20/20.
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« Reply #271 on: June 23, 2013, 04:27:54 PM »

I would never tell someone I love listening to Beach Boys unless I know them very well, will never see them again, or know they will either share these sentiments or be entirely indifferent. (not really an opinion, but a way of living!)

At parties and get-togethers, if the subject of music comes up I'll dive right into why The Beach Boys are the greatest band ever. I don't make many friends at parties Cheesy
One of these days I gotta seize control of the music, play one of their most un-stereotypical songs and never tell a soul what is playing!
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« Reply #272 on: June 23, 2013, 04:28:19 PM »

Man, Carl, Dennis and Pet Sounds are really taking hits in this thread

I wanted to cry when someone wrote that the instrumentals on Pet Sounds were "utter crap"

Let's Go Away For Awhile is like the best of Nelson Riddle, Les Baxter, and Burt Bacharach rolled into one. It's a shame that a lot of people don't realize the brilliance of this song. Philip Lambert does a phenomenal job of describing how genius this song is in his Brian Wilson book.
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« Reply #273 on: June 23, 2013, 04:29:35 PM »

I would never tell someone I love listening to Beach Boys unless I know them very well, will never see them again, or know they will either share these sentiments or be entirely indifferent. (not really an opinion, but a way of living!)

At parties and get-togethers, if the subject of music comes up I'll dive right into why The Beach Boys are the greatest band ever. I don't make many friends at parties Cheesy
One of these days I gotta seize control of the music, play one of their most un-stereotypical songs and never tell a soul what is playing!

I did this on a road trip once - I played Cabinessence without telling anyone who it was - blew people's minds Shocked
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« Reply #274 on: June 23, 2013, 05:36:31 PM »

Carl also produced Time To Get Alone.

No, Brian produced that track. I always preferred the Redwood vocals as well. The Beach Boys version (with vocals produced by Carl) lacks that wonderful harmony in the chorus that completely lifted the track into that magical higher plateau that only Brian could manage. Also the lovely horn solo is missing in the BB version.
Brian and Carl worked on it. Carl did a lot of the final mix, but Brian did a great vocal lead and background. Great arrangement by him too,
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