The 1st American Revolution: 237 years later...

[Chocolate Shake Man]

I wouldn't say "new media" has had a negative impact on people's political understanding, to the contrary it has made more people aware of the monetary system, financial power structures, corruption, anti-"terror" agendas and corporatism. New media highlights the fact "democracy" is just an illusion power elites use to control our societies. Nobody talked about the Fed and debt-based currency systems 15 years ago for example. Now it is out in the open.

This is what I mean when I say that new media has had a negative impact on people's understanding. That people think that "the Fed and debt-based currency systems" and "democracy" represent the real problems that people are facing (and people genuinely do believe this) is a consequence of the misleading unnuanced uncritical and poorly sourced information that floats around and clogs up the internet.

And what are the real problems according to you?

Well, again, you would actually have to read my post on "A Long History" to figure that out.

[Bean Bag]

Jailed filmmaker vows to finish film wrongly blamed for Benghazi attack


“we'll make sure that the person who made that film is arrested and prosecuted.”

Go gett'm Hilldawg!!



The 1st American Revolution... 237 years later.   

[Mahalo]

Classic- Thanks for that.

[Bean Bag]

Thanks!
I love the photo.  She's angry -- grrrr -- fist-pounding, but glancing down reading the "script!"

[Mahalo]

Ahhh- I missed that she's reading the script....

She is such a phony baloney politician. People are in for a rude awakening with all the shennanigans going on.... the bubble will burst....

[filledeplage]

Ahhh- I missed that she's reading the script....

She is such a phony baloney politician. People are in for a rude awakening with all the shennanigans going on.... the bubble will burst....

They ignored their own intelligence reports (among other things) and monitor residents with landlines.  Makes no sense.

[Mendota Heights]

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

Oh boy... here we go again with the Politickin'.  You guys made me do this!!

Any socialists want to give me 130$$?? It's, uh... for a good cause.  

They won't give you their own money. They only like to spend other people's money.

No.... Most "liberals" just pay their taxes like everyone else....

Well, yes, YOU DO -- you pay taxes.  But Swedish Frog is actually right.  Here's why. (Without pictures!) there's 3 types of "liberals" (there's 3 of anything, don't you know!)

#1 Them.
The Ruling Class.  The "elitist."  The ones who "steal" your money (taxes) AND get credit for being charitable with it, as they pass it (very little of it) to Group #3.

#2 You.
The bumper sticker liberals.  The tax paying liberal.  The one's we all know and love.  The whole enchilada.  The host with the most!  (And just cuz you're #2 on this list, don't think you're "close" to #1.  You ain't.  They laugh at you.  And not how I laugh at you.   )

#3 The Mystery Box.
The expendables. The permanent underclass (as they see it... not me).  The "low Information voters."  Bused in on election day (and in some places, like Chicago, this includes the deceased!).  Soon to include the amnestied as well.


UNDERSTAND THIS:  The goal of the Democrat party is to put YOU (and as many as they can) into the Mystery Box, Pinder.  For reals. Once they got you there... it's bye-bye Group #2 -- and they are royalty for life.

I think I'm right about this.  All joking aside.  #3 don't pay taxes.  #1 might, but c'mon! -- they just steal it back.  And YOU?  Well... welcome to the club! Have a seat! You're the target.  I'm the target.  You, me and everyone on this board -- targets.  Regardless of our "political banter" -- we're the target.  We're the whole game.  It's all about us.

The game is to squeeze us out.  Bottom up/Top down.  #1 knows we outnumber them, so they want us "middle class trash" (with our SUVs, incandescent light bulbs and affordable healthcare) -- out of the game and lost forever in group #3.  So they're taking our money, our jobs, our future -- and our common sense -- away.  They send just enough stolen loot (aka "bread crumbs") down to #3 to make them thirsty.  And here's bottom up part... they tell the #3 folks to HATE YOU and ME for not giving up more.  For holding them back.  We're greedy!!  Bottom Up.  

That's the game.  Squeeze us out.  We should actually join forces and put #1 permanently out of business.  But... no.  That's not gonna happen, is it?  They keep you "educated."  They keep you and me divided.  Racial, gender, skin-color, orientation, geography, whatever.  Just stay divided.  

You're still preaching your right wing, paranoid claptrap to me? I've long since left the "discussion" .... Keep the hot air blowing, windbag.... You have "liberals" down pat yet you still have no clue what a true conservative is..... Very pathetic..... The dirty little secret is: someone like you will never, can never, and never has been happy with anything. We could cut all social programs, abolish the Democratic party and you'd still be bitching and crying yet, of course, offering no logical solutions.... And the hilarious part is: once Obama's out of office, we'll likely never hear a peep from you again.

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

Surprised our socialist friends haven't made themselves known here...unless believing in a right to privacy somehow makes us members of "the extreme right".

Oh, you think "socialists" like having their phone calls listened to and their electronic communication followed 24/7? ... Um, no...... And do you guys REALLY think this is a "liberal/conservative/socialist" issue? And what in God's name made you think this hasn't been going on since the dawn of time, in some form or another? ..... But of course, it's easy and lazy to just use your pathetic, 2nd grader shorthand: "socialists" "liberals" .... You guys are sad...... I really really really hope they install a "Republican" in the White House next time out so you'll all go back to sleep happy and content.

[Bean Bag]

Ahhh- I missed that she's reading the script....

She is such a phony baloney politician. People are in for a rude awakening with all the shennanigans going on.... the bubble will burst....

They ignored their own intelligence reports (among other things) and monitor residents with landlines.  Makes no sense.

BAM!!!  Well said.

Having experience working with government, I can tell you... when something fails they do more of it.  Let me say that again -- when something fails... they do it more.  Insanity, defined.

As in... "what?  we're not reacting to the data and intelligence reports?... well, by golly... we must need MORE! data and intelligence reports!!"

And that's how you get the PRISM program.  I'm telling you.  That's EXACTLY how it happens.  It's total insanity, and no one is stopping them!

[Bean Bag]

Keep the hot air blowing, windbag....

Windbag?  Me?

offering no logical solutions....

Oh yeah?!  I've got solutions.  Actually... I don't.  That's kind of my point.  My solution is for the gov't to stop with the solutions.  

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

Keep the hot air blowing, windbag....

Windbag?  Me?

offering no logical solutions....

Oh yeah?!  I've got solutions.  Actually... I don't.  That's kind of my point.  My solution is for the gov't to stop with the solutions.  

and then what?

[Mendota Heights]

Of course this is not a left-right thing. Power elites have done this throughout mankind no matter their political affiliation.

[Mahalo]

Buy affordable health insurance, buy cheaper gas, have more money in their pocket to be able to take care of their families and loved ones, find good paying jobs. The Federal Gov't is so bloated that I don't think we can fathom how bad of a cancer it is. Seriously- no, seriously- I could use 145$ of my money paid in whatever tax of your liking they i have paid this year that went to God-knows-what, and bought this box set. It is sickening.

Don't get me started on Monsanto... or the regressive income tax...


It's both party's, but the Democrats tell you in your face they want bigger gov't, while Repub's act conservative until they get into DC... then it's back to political correctness and big gov't.

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

Of course this is not a left-right thing. Power elites have done this throughout mankind no matter their political affiliation.

Yes, absolutely! I can't help but think that the only way we can change this: or one way is to shake off FINALLY these ridiculous terms because people like Bean Bag get so hung up on them that they can't think beyond them..... Think about it: every four years we vote in some jackass and INSTANTLY about 40 or 50% of the population puts up another bumper sticker and goes to sleep happy.... That's about 40 or 50% of the population who the powers that be can
 be content are politically ignorant and fast asleep.... Of course there's the other 40 or 50% who are angry and vigilant, however, they're focusing all their rage on that other 40 or 50% ..... It doesn't take a genius to see how this just plays into the gram scheme.

[Bean Bag]

Oh, you think "socialists" like having their phone calls listened to and their electronic communication followed 24/7? ... Um, no......

I think you're wrong.  Mostly.  Heck, I've talked to "like-minded" people, who are fine with this program.  The whole country is fried man.

And do you guys REALLY think this is a "liberal/conservative/socialist" issue?

No.  Nobody does.  I think you're just obsessed with politics.

I really really really hope they install a "Republican" in the White House next time out so you'll all go back to sleep happy and content.

See what I mean?  I don't know how many times us "right wingers" have said the Republican party sucks.  Does saying it again help?  No.  Why?  Cuz you're obsessed with politics.

Hating the Republican party is #2 on the list of 3 things the left does.  (1. Steal/tax  2. lie about republicans.  3. win elections)

I personally hate politics.  Hate it.  I wish it didn't pop-up every damn time I make a good point.  But you leftist are obsessed, as you should be.  Cuz that's all you're programmed to do.  Politics.  Support the team.

I know it.  So I go after it and poke fun...

[Bean Bag]

Keep the hot air blowing, windbag....

Windbag?  Me?

offering no logical solutions....

Oh yeah?!  I've got solutions.  Actually... I don't.  That's kind of my point.  My solution is for the gov't to stop with the solutions.  

and then what?

 

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

Oh, you think "socialists" like having their phone calls listened to and their electronic communication followed 24/7? ... Um, no......

I think you're wrong.  Mostly.  Heck, I've talked to "like-minded" people, who are fine with this program.  The whole country is fried man.

And do you guys REALLY think this is a "liberal/conservative/socialist" issue?

No.  Nobody does.  I think you're just obsessed with politics.

I really really really hope they install a "Republican" in the White House next time out so you'll all go back to sleep happy and content.

See what I mean?  I don't know how many times us "right wingers" have said the Republican party sucks.  Does saying it again help?  No.  Why?  Cuz you're obsessed with politics.

Hating the Republican party is #2 on the list of 3 things the left does.  (1. Steal/tax  2. lie about republicans.  3. win elections)

I personally hate politics.  Hate it.  I wish it didn't pop-up every damn time I make a good point.  But you leftist are obsessed, as you should be.  Cuz that's all you're programmed to do.  Politics.  Support the team.

I know it.  So I go after it and poke fun...

I'd say the guy who gets himself off by posting in political threads 24/7 and spending a whole lot of time and efforts with his silly pictures might be the one who's obsessed with politics.... Then again what ARE politics and what would a lack of interest in them demonstrate exactly? ..... Though no one could ever accuse you of having a distinct lack of interest in them..... Therefore, what's the point in trying to insult me for having an interest in them? Or sorry, an "obsession"

And yes, there are always idiots, Bean. Anyone "left or "right" who would support such things as we're discussing has much bigger issues than what politically party they vote for.

[Bean Bag]

It's both party's, but the Democrats tell you in your face they want bigger gov't, while Repub's act conservative until they get into DC... then it's back to political correctness and big gov't.

Yep.

To me... (by and large):  The Democrat Party is terminal.  While, the Republican party is telling you, "you're fine.  f-ck sunscreen. have a cigarette and hop in my x-ray spaceship."


It's the nuthouse.

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

It's both party's, but the Democrats tell you in your face they want bigger gov't, while Repub's act conservative until they get into DC... then it's back to political correctness and big gov't.

Yep.

To me... (by and large):  The Democrat Party is terminal.  While, the Republican party is telling you, "you're fine.  f-ck sunscreen. have a cigarette and hop in my x-ray spaceship."


It's the nuthouse.

THIS I agree with!

[Bean Bag]

I'd say the guy who gets himself off by posting in political threads 24/7 and spending a whole lot of time and efforts with his silly pictures might be the one who's obsessed with politics....

Is this supposed to be me?

Therefore, what's the point in trying to insult me for having an interest in them? Or sorry, an "obsession"

I want to stop politics.  

An interest in saving the country from thieves and madmen... sh-t save myself!  Save my money!  My familiy!!  The f-cking country!!!

That interests me, yes.

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

and replace politics with what?

why not go live in Somalia?

no thieves or madmen there, right?

I get what you're saying though, but we need to envision a logical scenario for a better way before we plunder the world into the middle ages all over again.... What would you likely do if thieves or madmen burst into your tent out in the middle or nowhere? You'd probably go "Here, take these meager valuables and don't hurt us"! ..... So, we'd really be back in the same boat.

[Bean Bag]

I'd say the guy who gets himself off by posting in political threads 24/7 and spending a whole lot of time and efforts with his silly pictures might be the one who's obsessed with politics....

Yes, there's a ton of left-wing nutz that haunt the interweb, spewing mindless propaganda, because, well... they don't have souls.  Or jobs.  But let's stay focused...

Then again what ARE politics and what would a lack of interest in them demonstrate exactly? .....

What are politics?  Bill Clinton.  He was pure politics.  Lick finger (or other appendage).   Stick in air. Detect wind direction.  For 8 years.  Total opposite of leadership, by the way.

Obama is always campaigning, even when he's not.  No substance, just politics.  Always.

Though no one could ever accuse you of having a distinct lack of interest in them...

My hope is that we get a Truman.  We really need one.  NOW.  We don't need another celebrity President like this turd.  We need a workingman's president.  A stiff who just does the job.  But... most Americans don't even know what that job is anymore.  They think it's TV soundbites and politics.  No one trust politicians because of this exact issue.

So no... I have NO interest in politics.  I'm a horrible politician.  Just because I am interested in exposing the frauds that they are, doesn't make me "like them" or "interested" in their art.  It's so the opposite.

[Jason]

I knew it was a matter of time before someone brought up Somalia.

[Mahalo]

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