BAD Tour/Setlist '13

[Mikie]

Jeff was irritating, like usual.

No, he wasn't.  Do you know the difference between being irritating and arrogance and joking around, Shady?  Doubt it.

[Gohi]

I dunno if this is normal Foskett behavior but he was really obnoxious at our show. He would drink bottles of water and toss them behind the stage where the roadies/techs were. He must have used freaking twelve different guitars, none of which were audible (it became funny when he was pretending to play along to "Pet Sounds"). He did this stupid shuffle/dance across the stage several times throughout the show and only stopped when finally the drummer laughed at attempt #5.

So what? I don't see any problem there. I don't think he was playing a bunch of guitars and they weren't turned up. Probably blended in the mix.

Maybe you'd rather see Stamos up there instead?

How about he just uses one guitar that isn't plugged in? And yes I was near the front and none of what he was playing could be heard. I legitimately heard Brian's piano and Al's guitar more times than I heard ol' Fosky's guitar. At times he was even pretending to strum along to parts he didn't know! Seriously! And throwing your water bottles at techs (not exaggerating) is pretty dickish behavior that only THE GREAT BRIAN WILSON could get away with.

[Nicko1234]

He has an arrogance and smugness that is pretty easy to pick up on.

Not an easily likable person

Agreed.

[punkinhead]

I have always liked Jeff, his vocals, his banter, his falsetto, and his own work, so obviously I have nothing against him.

So why all the hate for Jeff?
Besides the things already discussed, what's has he done in the past as touring with brian and/or the beach boys?

[Micha]

Now that the Mike threads have calmed a bit, is Jeff now the new Mike?

[Heywood]

Always found him friendly and willing to help out. This is based on actually interacting and talking to him and having him at a few functions (not just sitting in the audience at a show ).

Not surprised he'd have the odd bad day if this is any indication of what he must put up with from some fans, especially when looking out for Brian.

[Mikie]

I have always liked Jeff, his vocals, his banter, his falsetto, and his own work, so obviously I have nothing against him.

So why all the hate for Jeff?
Besides the things already discussed, what's has he done in the past as touring with brian and/or the beach boys?

There's no hate. It's just Shady riding on someone else's opinion again without knowing what (or who) he's talking about.

[Niko]

Now that the Mike threads have calmed a bit, is Jeff now the new Mike?

There is always a Mike to attack, otherwise we'll have to talk to each other 

[grillo]

Although I'm not at all into his voice, the one time I talked to Jeff he happily hung out with me and my friend and asked us what our favorite songs were and was a very nice guy. He must have hung out for ten minutes, and this was in a restaurant after a show, so he had no obligation to us in any way.
Anyway, my two cents=nice guy!

[Nicko1234]

Since I'll *hopefully* be catching the DC show this fall, I took a closer look at the setlist to see just what exactly I'll be seeing (although I'm sure Brian's set will be shorter since Jeff Beck is doing his own thing too)

Why are these guys playing so much early stuff that Mike sang lead on and M&B band carry quite well already? I think of this band as the band that has the oppourtunity to play the deep stuff and really flesh out the 66-73 period...

I counted 12 songs out of the 37 in the set that are lead by Mike on the original recordings. Look at the encore for instance...

All Summer Long
Help Me Rhonda
Barbara Ann
Surfin' USA
Fun, Fun, Fun

...what about that screams Brian Wilson? It reads like a Mike and Bruce set.

Don't get me wrong though, there are some GREAT tracks slipped in that M&B don't touch often...Please Let Me Wonder, Girl Don't Tell Me, Pet Sounds, Our Prayer/Heroes and Villains...SUMMER'S GONE!

anyone else feel this way?

I agree. They could restructure the setlist to make it suit Brian`s current voice a lot more.

[Gohi]

I've never liked him but I'm sure if I met him I'd take back all the nasty things I've said about his bad falsetto and unplugged guitars.
Good thing I'll never meet him! 

[Heywood]

Good thing I'll never meet him!  

for him.

[smile-holland]

Just 2 personal experiences

March 6th 2004: On the day of BW's concert in Newcastle (BWPS), a good friend of mine (of Pet Sounds record shop fame) organised a SMiLE party. Lot's of fans attended the party, as well as a few members of the band, including Jeff. I had the change to throw in a new disc in the CD-player, found a SMiLE boot and pressed play, within the minute Jeff was at the counter asking which session track that was. He was genuinly interested in SMiLE stuff at the time. Cool to see.

Sept. 11th 2011: I had already been able to meet and greet Brian and Jeff prior to the the Gateshead gig, one day earlier. Nervous as heck, finally shaking BW's hand for the first time. This second meeting was more relaxed. Got my vinyl copy of TLOS signed, was able to chat a bit with Jeff and got my copy of his Thru My Window CD signed by him as well. I then asked the bold thing if Brian would like to sign an extra item - not for me, but for a friend of mine who wasn't able to take the long trip from Holland to Scotland - and he just said sure, just do it. When I later gave a signed copy of the Caroline No 45 to my friend he was really moved by it (as was I).

Just a few tiny examples perhaps, and nothing earthshaking, but nonetheless for me just positive experiences with Jeff, and convincing enough for me to say that he is a nice guy.

[Gohi]

Good thing I'll never meet him!  

for him.

I'm awesome. Look at those sunglasses.

[RubberSoul13]

Since I'll *hopefully* be catching the DC show this fall, I took a closer look at the setlist to see just what exactly I'll be seeing (although I'm sure Brian's set will be shorter since Jeff Beck is doing his own thing too)

Why are these guys playing so much early stuff that Mike sang lead on and M&B band carry quite well already? I think of this band as the band that has the oppourtunity to play the deep stuff and really flesh out the 66-73 period...

I counted 12 songs out of the 37 in the set that are lead by Mike on the original recordings. Look at the encore for instance...

All Summer Long
Help Me Rhonda
Barbara Ann
Surfin' USA
Fun, Fun, Fun

...what about that screams Brian Wilson? It reads like a Mike and Bruce set.

Don't get me wrong though, there are some GREAT tracks slipped in that M&B don't touch often...Please Let Me Wonder, Girl Don't Tell Me, Pet Sounds, Our Prayer/Heroes and Villains...SUMMER'S GONE!

anyone else feel this way?

I agree. They could restructure the setlist to make it suit Brian`s current voice a lot more.

Thanks for trying to focus the thread back on topic...

[Gohi]

Okay back to the thread topic... BAD was a GREAT show and I wish I could see them again.

[Mikie]

I've never liked him but I'm sure if I met him I'd take back all the nasty things I've said about his bad falsetto and unplugged guitars. Good thing I'll never meet him!  

I'll be at the Oakland show in October. I will especially be on the lookout for Jeff's "unplugged" guitars. I'd like to know who would be at all these signings and meet & greets and backstage meetings with Brian if Jeff weren't around. Melinda? Jean Sievers? Darian? Maybe a few, but doubtfully not all. No-brainer - Jeff has helped Brian immensely since 1976. If anything, he's taken a back seat to Al and Dave's guitar playing and just blending in the mix. And I'm sure now that with Jeff Beck's guitar in the fray, that Foskett may be happy standing in the shadows doing vocals for the time being.