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« Reply #150 on: April 27, 2006, 09:17:22 AM »

Seeing as people aren't too worried about straying into other people's camps, what actually constitutes an official 'reunion'?  Does it mean a hybrid get-together of camps for a quick jam, or an actual re-convening of original members only (back-up not required)?  I know this sounds like nit-picking, but people seem to have widely differing ideas about what's involved (ironic as some original members don't seem to know anything about it, and some original members aren't even invited).
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« Reply #151 on: April 27, 2006, 10:17:13 AM »

Seeing as people aren't too worried about straying into other people's camps, what actually constitutes an official 'reunion'?  Does it mean a hybrid get-together of camps for a quick jam, or an actual re-convening of original members only (back-up not required)?  I know this sounds like nit-picking, but people seem to have widely differing ideas about what's involved (ironic as some original members don't seem to know anything about it, and some original members aren't even invited).

There have been nine "official" Beach Boys in the 45 year history of the band. Seven of those are still alive. To me...the only legitimate reunion would be one that included all of the remaining BB's in some capacity...Brian, Mike, Al, David, Bruce, Blondie and Ricky. Anything less would be...less.
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« Reply #152 on: April 27, 2006, 11:18:06 AM »

Add some of Mike's kids and this is the Beach Boys of the near future.

Add all of Mike's other kids, official and unofficial, plus the ex-wives, as the audience and they're back playing arenas. 

Did you all know that there's a town in Brazil (Vila Do Miguel Amor) made up entirely of Mike's progeny?  They speak a very nasal version of portuguese and even the women are bald.  Most of them were refugees at some point; deported from various other countries, usually following Mike's solo releases.  They are known to be a very friendly, though quite litigious people.  Distinguished by their hairlessness and exotic styles of dress, they are such prolific breeders that it is believed that within twenty years over three quarters of the Brazillian population will be relatd to Mike.
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« Reply #153 on: April 27, 2006, 03:23:28 PM »

Man, I feel really bad starting this whole "camp" in quotations thing. But thank you Ron for realizing what I was trying to say. I just mentioned it because there had been people on the board saying that Mike Love and Foskett would never even consider being in each other's presences, but here they are. That's all, nothing more nothing less, no mountain out of an ant hill. And another reason that I brought up Foskett, is that fact that he's been around a while, what, 25-26 some odd years now, so he's not just some random back up band member, he's seen the band's ups and downs (Dennis's and Carl's death, etc. downs, the great 4th of July shows, Live Aid, Farm Aid... ups), and with the current band he plays an integral role as pseudo Brian (with the falsettos and all).
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« Reply #154 on: April 27, 2006, 04:27:04 PM »

No apology needed, slickman, you made an important contribution to this conversation.
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« Reply #155 on: April 28, 2006, 11:11:39 AM »

As much as I'm excited for this reunion, it'll probably be the type of thing where

A) It's in Europe somewhere
B) The tickets get sold out weeks before they officially go on sale
C) Even if you do end up getting a seat it's in the nosebleed section and you'd be better watching it TV
D) And it still costs $75
E) It won't be very good anyway

I'd much rather have them play some dinky casino in Atlantic City or a "county fair" (where does everyone come up with that? how often do Mike & Bruce actually play county fairs?) or something like that.. cheap, intimate, real.

And Brian's bass vocals are terrible compared to Mike's. I always laugh when I hear the new version of Little Saint Nick.
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« Reply #156 on: April 28, 2006, 04:40:15 PM »

So if Ricky and Blondie aren't involved it's not a "reunion"?  They were in the band for what 2 - 3 years at most?  Great guys and great musicians but their lack of participation frankly doesn't mean much.  IMO Ed Carter and Billy Hinche have about as much claim to being Beach Boys...maybe more.

Look...the reunion is Brian, Mike, Al, and to a lesser degree Bruce.  Anyone else is icing on the cake.  I'm not exactly pining for a reunion...sometimes it's just better to call it a day.  Maybe a farwell tour would work...but Mike will never stop.  In 10 years the "Beach Boys" will be playing at retirement homes, county fairs, and high school reunions.
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« Reply #157 on: April 28, 2006, 06:20:23 PM »

Hate to be a downer, but if it does happen it will be handled badly, look completely lame and probably suck. Just like all the other times.

Appearances on Full House, Baywatch, rapping with the Fat Boys. The more these guys get together the more they tarnish their own images. Everyone remembers how lame they can be. If Brian gets on stage with a bunch of guys in Hawaiian shirts, he's going to undo the "career renaissance" of the past 7 years.

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 i  seem to agree...i still cant get that awful vision of the summer of mike love baywatch
video out of my mind. please brian, do not do that zz top van halen devo dance conga line again...pleeease!!!
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« Reply #158 on: April 28, 2006, 07:43:54 PM »

It could just possibly be handled tastefully...like the campfire sequence of the "Endless Summer" mini-TV series.  Nothing to be ashamed of there.  Also, the '93 so-called "unplugged" box set tour (albeit Brian-less) was still very high quality.   Granted, without Carl, it will  be tougher to sound that good.  But it's not hopeless.  It's best to hope for the best, but expect less, then maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised.
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« Reply #159 on: April 28, 2006, 11:36:51 PM »

It could just possibly be handled tastefully...like the campfire sequence of the "Endless Summer" mini-TV series.  Nothing to be ashamed of there.  Also, the '93 so-called "unplugged" box set tour (albeit Brian-less) was still very high quality.   Granted, without Carl, it will  be tougher to sound that good.  But it's not hopeless.  It's best to hope for the best, but expect less, then maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised.
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« Reply #160 on: April 29, 2006, 05:46:04 PM »

Seeing as people aren't too worried about straying into other people's camps, what actually constitutes an official 'reunion'?  Does it mean a hybrid get-together of camps for a quick jam, or an actual re-convening of original members only (back-up not required)?  I know this sounds like nit-picking, but people seem to have widely differing ideas about what's involved (ironic as some original members don't seem to know anything about it, and some original members aren't even invited).

There have been nine "official" Beach Boys in the 45 year history of the band. Seven of those are still alive. To me...the only legitimate reunion would be one that included all of the remaining BB's in some capacity...Brian, Mike, Al, David, Bruce, Blondie and Ricky. Anything less would be...less.

I don't really think Blondie, Ricky, and David are all that needed.  I'm more curious to see how the leads would be broken up since Brian and Mike now have essentially the same basic range with Wilson having a little more falsetto in his.  Seems like Al could pick up a lot...
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« Reply #161 on: April 30, 2006, 07:13:56 PM »

Seeing as people aren't too worried about straying into other people's camps, what actually constitutes an official 'reunion'?  Does it mean a hybrid get-together of camps for a quick jam, or an actual re-convening of original members only (back-up not required)?  I know this sounds like nit-picking, but people seem to have widely differing ideas about what's involved (ironic as some original members don't seem to know anything about it, and some original members aren't even invited).

There have been nine "official" Beach Boys in the 45 year history of the band. Seven of those are still alive. To me...the only legitimate reunion would be one that included all of the remaining BB's in some capacity...Brian, Mike, Al, David, Bruce, Blondie and Ricky. Anything less would be...less.

I don't really think Blondie, Ricky, and David are all that needed.  I'm more curious to see how the leads would be broken up since Brian and Mike now have essentially the same basic range with Wilson having a little more falsetto in his.  Seems like Al could pick up a lot...
Listen up all u BB purists/completists...if thats really what u desire for an 06 BB reunion...well then u must bring John Stamos in also.!!

Now how do you feel??? Bruce, Al, Brian, Mike & possibly another Jardine, or Mr. Marks and this is fine w/me.

Perhaps blondie & ricky w/ no Carl is a moot point to them anyhow.
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« Reply #162 on: April 30, 2006, 08:45:50 PM »

Without Ricky Fataar or John Stamos, there'll be no one on drums!
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« Reply #163 on: May 01, 2006, 03:50:29 AM »

Without Ricky Fataar or John Stamos, there'll be no one on drums!

They have Kowalski...  Grin
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« Reply #164 on: May 01, 2006, 04:36:40 AM »

Why not Brian? This would be an interesting surprise.
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« Reply #165 on: May 01, 2006, 09:55:29 AM »

Why not Brian? This would be an interesting surprise.
oh puh-leeze, Bri can barely play piano live and sing at the same time nowadays...with that said i'm goin' to work. Peace.
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« Reply #166 on: May 01, 2006, 10:20:25 AM »

Why not Brian? This would be an interesting surprise.
oh puh-leeze, Bri can barely play piano live and sing at the same time nowadays...with that said i'm goin' to work. Peace.

Not true. Brian plays on Surfer Girl and several sections of SMiLE. He has, what, three keyboardists behind him so he can concentrate on singing. To assume that he can't play is a bit much.
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« Reply #167 on: May 01, 2006, 01:42:50 PM »

I think that the living members of The Beatles might as well get back together to do a 40th Anniversary of Revolver too! Wink Wink
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« Reply #168 on: May 01, 2006, 02:45:29 PM »

Add David Hasselhoff for extra authenticity.
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« Reply #169 on: May 01, 2006, 03:03:44 PM »

I think that the living members of The Beatles might as well get back together to do a 40th Anniversary of Revolver too! Wink Wink

Me too and throw in a few Beatles 2.0 [progeny] too.
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« Reply #170 on: May 01, 2006, 03:24:08 PM »

While I'm not interested in a Beach Boys reunion, I have thought about as a comparison why the Stones have remained so succesful as a touring act over the last 10yrs or so. They have 3 originals plus a replacement, the same as Al's "Pet Sounds" Beach Boys idea.
The comparison stops with Carl and Bill Wyman. Bill never had the profile Carl gained by singing leads of course.
But the success of the Stones, and I think more so since the hits stopped, must be put down to Jagger and any assistance he gets as managers. Had the Beatles still be going I find it hard to believe McCartney could pull off the same series of average albums followed by such high earning World tours.

So back to Al's concept. Good management may have been able to put something together. Of course not on the Stones scale. Think about it. The bad blood and mental breakdowns alone would be a publicists dream, not to mention deaths and court cases. Most of the news stories about Brian since 99 have highlighted them.
But of course The Mike and Bruce show has rolled on during this period. Had they stopped in 97 then the public may have had some interest today. Look at "Cream" last year. But I now just can't see it working.
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« Reply #171 on: May 01, 2006, 03:52:40 PM »

Why not Brian? This would be an interesting surprise.
oh puh-leeze, Bri can barely play piano live and sing at the same time nowadays...with that said i'm goin' to work. Peace.

Why is that? Is it the medication? During the Brian Is Back heyday of the 70's and early 80's, he's playing the piano with the band. Well, actually they have some many people on stage with them, who would notice if he was screwing up. Still, I actually want to see him play. It looks weird for him just to sit in front of a synthesizer.
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« Reply #172 on: May 01, 2006, 03:55:24 PM »

I think that the living members of The Beatles might as well get back together to do a 40th Anniversary of Revolver too! Wink Wink

That is a great comparison. Losing Carl Wilson is as significant to the Beach Boys world as losing John Lennon was to the Beatles. You couldn't have a reunion without them.
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« Reply #173 on: May 01, 2006, 05:18:56 PM »

I don't believe that's true. I think you can always have a Beach Boys if Mike and Brian are there. Unless it's going to be a post-Pet Sounds focused concert that is, which is extremely unlikely. I consider Carl to be more in the George level. If George had died before Lennon nobody would have quibbled about Lennon and McCartney being the Beatles.
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« Reply #174 on: May 01, 2006, 05:38:28 PM »

Since George was 10x the musician Lennon was... I would have a problem with that... Ohhhh, I'm nasty. Razz

But seriously, gimme All Things Must Pass over ANYTHING Lennon has done solo...  Or McCartney's Ram for that matter.... *ahem* what were we talking about?  Huh
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