The Beach Boys + Wikipedia = Wrinkles

[Quzi]

I dramatically restructured the subheadings of the Wikipedia article to aid in the telling of the Beach Boys narrative and added a few pictures/tidbits (Maharishi, Adult/Child, the band breaking up in '77). Have a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beach_Boys Would you guys alter any of those headings? Am I missing any noteworthy additions? A few of the subheadings feature ample room for expansion (The 15 Big Ones / "Brian's Back" one for example) but I figure it's best to sketch out a rough direction for what direction the article is going to take and then fill in the blanks later on.

Also, an editor called yeepsi has proposed a Beach Boys WikiProject be created. Basically, it's a group where there will be to-do lists and hints and tips for expanding coverage of the Beach Boys on Wikipedia. For example, I might put down that an article for "Adult/Child" should be created, and then members of the WikiProject can all band together and get it off the ground. If you are interested or want to help give us the numbers to get this thing off the ground,  just follow this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals/The_Beach_Boys&action=edit&section=2 and copy and paste #~~~~ in the edit window. You don't have to have a wikipedia account to do this, but it's recommended that you do.

[Aegir]

"interactions with the Maharishi" is a bad thing to put in a subheading that only references 68-69. the Maharishi's influence on the Beach Boys was strong throughout the 70s, and to a lesser extent for the rest of his life.

[Quzi]

"interactions with the Maharishi" is a bad thing to put in a subheading that only references 68-69. the Maharishi's influence on the Beach Boys was strong throughout the 70s, and to a lesser extent for the rest of his life.

Good call, I'll change it to "initial interactions".

[Andrew G. Doe]

"Following Carl Wilson's death, the surviving members splintered. Mike Love and Bruce Johnston continued to tour as the Beach Boys Band, while Al Jardine toured regularly with his Endless Summer Band. Brian Wilson made a complete recovery from his mental illness and embarked on a successful solo career that saw him touring regularly with his backing band the Wondermints."

OK, problems with this are -

1 - Mike & Bruce initially toured as "America's Band", couldn't draw flies and went back to ask to be allowed to use the franchise name. This resulted in the current licensing arrangements, with all the grief that ensued.

2 - Alan only toured 'regularly' for maybe 18 months, initially as Beach Boys: Family & Friends. Cue more grief.

3 - Brian's 'recovered completely from his mental illness' ? No. Emphatically, no.

4 - Brian's backing band is The Brian Wilson Band, who contain the core members of Wondermints (no definitive article): the majority of Brian's band were never members of Wondermints.

PS: "DFTS" was released as by Alan, even on the charity 7".

[SMiLE Brian]

"Following Carl Wilson's death, the surviving members splintered. Mike Love and Bruce Johnston continued to tour as the Beach Boys Band, while Al Jardine toured regularly with his Endless Summer Band. Brian Wilson made a complete recovery from his mental illness and embarked on a successful solo career that saw him touring regularly with his backing band the Wondermints."

OK, problems with this are -

1 - Mike & Bruce initially toured as "America's Band", couldn't draw flies and went back to ask to be allowed to use the franchise name. This resulted in the current licensing arrangements, with all the grief that ensued.

2 - Alan only toured 'regularly' for maybe 18 months, initially as Beach Boys: Family & Friends. Cue more grief.

3 - Brian's 'recovered completely from his mental illness' ? No. Emphatically, no.

4 - Brian's backing band is The Brian Wilson Band, who contain the core members of Wondermints (no definitive article): the majority of Brian's band were never members of Wondermints.

PS: "DFTS" was released as by Alan, even on the charity 7".

What do you think of your wikipedia profile that is posted?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Grayham_Doe

[Shady]

AGD has a wikipedia page? 

Fantastic 

[Andrew G. Doe]

"Following Carl Wilson's death, the surviving members splintered. Mike Love and Bruce Johnston continued to tour as the Beach Boys Band, while Al Jardine toured regularly with his Endless Summer Band. Brian Wilson made a complete recovery from his mental illness and embarked on a successful solo career that saw him touring regularly with his backing band the Wondermints."

OK, problems with this are -

1 - Mike & Bruce initially toured as "America's Band", couldn't draw flies and went back to ask to be allowed to use the franchise name. This resulted in the current licensing arrangements, with all the grief that ensued.

2 - Alan only toured 'regularly' for maybe 18 months, initially as Beach Boys: Family & Friends. Cue more grief.

3 - Brian's 'recovered completely from his mental illness' ? No. Emphatically, no.

4 - Brian's backing band is The Brian Wilson Band, who contain the core members of Wondermints (no definitive article): the majority of Brian's band were never members of Wondermints.

PS: "DFTS" was released as by Alan, even on the charity 7".

What do you think of your wikipedia profile that is posted?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Grayham_Doe

I try not to.  Bit like reading my own obituary.

[Shady]

"Following Carl Wilson's death, the surviving members splintered. Mike Love and Bruce Johnston continued to tour as the Beach Boys Band, while Al Jardine toured regularly with his Endless Summer Band. Brian Wilson made a complete recovery from his mental illness and embarked on a successful solo career that saw him touring regularly with his backing band the Wondermints."

OK, problems with this are -

1 - Mike & Bruce initially toured as "America's Band", couldn't draw flies and went back to ask to be allowed to use the franchise name. This resulted in the current licensing arrangements, with all the grief that ensued.

2 - Alan only toured 'regularly' for maybe 18 months, initially as Beach Boys: Family & Friends. Cue more grief.

3 - Brian's 'recovered completely from his mental illness' ? No. Emphatically, no.

4 - Brian's backing band is The Brian Wilson Band, who contain the core members of Wondermints (no definitive article): the majority of Brian's band were never members of Wondermints.

PS: "DFTS" was released as by Alan, even on the charity 7".

What do you think of your wikipedia profile that is posted?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Grayham_Doe

I try not to.  Bit like reading my own obituary.

Well you probably wrote it so I guess you wrote your own obituary 

[Aegir]

Actually according to the edit history quite a number of users have contributed to the page.

[SMiLE Brian]

"Following Carl Wilson's death, the surviving members splintered. Mike Love and Bruce Johnston continued to tour as the Beach Boys Band, while Al Jardine toured regularly with his Endless Summer Band. Brian Wilson made a complete recovery from his mental illness and embarked on a successful solo career that saw him touring regularly with his backing band the Wondermints."

OK, problems with this are -

1 - Mike & Bruce initially toured as "America's Band", couldn't draw flies and went back to ask to be allowed to use the franchise name. This resulted in the current licensing arrangements, with all the grief that ensued.

2 - Alan only toured 'regularly' for maybe 18 months, initially as Beach Boys: Family & Friends. Cue more grief.

3 - Brian's 'recovered completely from his mental illness' ? No. Emphatically, no.

4 - Brian's backing band is The Brian Wilson Band, who contain the core members of Wondermints (no definitive article): the majority of Brian's band were never members of Wondermints.

PS: "DFTS" was released as by Alan, even on the charity 7".

What do you think of your wikipedia profile that is posted?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Grayham_Doe

I try not to.  Bit like reading my own obituary.

Could you post a badass picture of yourself from the 1970s?

[Andrew G. Doe]

God only knows why, but since you asked - best I can do is mid-80s:

[SMiLE Brian]

Cool picture ,I just meant by putting one up on the wiki page since you did a lot of the interviews in the late 1970s-early 1980s period.

[Andrew G. Doe]

OK, I've uploaded it to wiki... now how do i get it onto my page ?

edit - eh, never mind, worked it out myself.

[SMiLE Brian]

Did you try the file upload wizard?

[SMiLE Brian]

Looks great AGD.

[Shady]

Looks incredible, very cool.

[SMiLE Brian]

*sigh* The wikipedia page lists M&B as the only BBs.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beach_Boys

[Cabinessenceking]

*sigh* The wikipedia page lists M&B as the only BBs.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beach_Boys

Just some madman kokomaoist on the loose..

There should be a seperate article for the M&B incarnation of the Beach Boys. And certainly the others are not 'past members' as they together define what the Beach Boys are.

[Andrew G. Doe]

Fixed it. 

[SIP Mike]

Changed it back.

Embrace the truth.

[Dudd]

Curse you, SIP Mike.

[SMiLE Brian]

You are the madman kokomaoist Cabinessenceking was talking about!

[leggo of my ego]

Curse you, SIP Mike.

 

[bluesno1fann]

Not exactly Wikipedia (Though I would LOVE to see the Smiley Smile Wiki completed), but I've been working a little bit on the Beach Boys pages on TV Tropes. Check it out, and perhaps contribute as well:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Music/TheBeachBoys?from=Main.TheBeachBoys

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/TheBeachboys

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/AwesomeMusic/TheBeachBoys

[SIP Mike]

Curse you, Love Surrounds Me, for I was going to write those tvtropes pages.

Your Dennis loving ways have been noted, and I shall have to work hard to undo the damage you have caused.