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« Reply #125 on: February 28, 2014, 07:35:35 AM »

Pink Floyd: Ummagumma (Studio Album)


I love Ummagumma! I still have very fond memories of listening to it stoned as a teenager with friends.

I adore the live record, but I see little of the studio work as actual quality  Tongue
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« Reply #126 on: February 28, 2014, 07:54:54 AM »

I like Ummagumma too, even the studio stuff - especially "Groovin' with a Pict."
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« Reply #127 on: February 28, 2014, 02:00:57 PM »

Worst albums of all time?

"Hitler Is Alive and Well (and Living in You)" by The Third World, from 1971.

Man, was that awful.

Worst album:

Hitler Sings Beach Boys Party!

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« Reply #128 on: February 28, 2014, 04:30:31 PM »

The odds of anyone here having even heard the worst albums of all time--unless having participated in their creations--are slim. So quickly it's just a thread about albums you don't like. Not the same thing.
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« Reply #129 on: February 28, 2014, 04:31:42 PM »

The odds of anyone here having even heard the worst albums of all time--unless having participated in their creations--are slim. So quickly it's just a thread about albums you don't like. Not the same thing.

What about truly sh*t albums like Summer In Paradise or Metal Machine Music?

Van Halen III
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Sometime in New York City
Having Fun with Elvis On Stage


Very bad albums by major bands/artists.

What's wrong with Some Time In New York City? IMHO I've always considered it to be one of the better Lennon solo albums. I ignore and skip over the Yoko songs of course, but the Lennon songs are brilliant, especially Woman Is The n***** Of The World.

Now Rock And Roll I'd consider to be Lennon's worst solo album. Stand By Me aside (Which I consider to be the definitive version of that song), the whole album is awful and for the most part unlistenable. Lennon really butchered the classics...
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« Reply #130 on: February 28, 2014, 04:51:02 PM »

The odds of anyone here having even heard the worst albums of all time--unless having participated in their creations--are slim. So quickly it's just a thread about albums you don't like. Not the same thing.

What about truly sh*t albums like Summer In Paradise or Metal Machine Music?

Well first, a lot of people whose opinions I value really love Metal Machine Music. So on that, while I myself don't like it, I'd say be careful: your taste is your taste, but you might be missing something.

But as for something like Summer In Paradise, clearly it isn't anywhere near the worst ever because those musicians are competent. There are people making albums--especially in this day of home recording and self-release online--who can't play music. I don't mean you don't like their songs, I mean they don't know how to play music. Can't make chords or progressions. Can't sing on tune. Have no talent. A bad album by a popular and talented band is nowhere near the worst album of all time. It isn't even in the same league.
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« Reply #131 on: February 28, 2014, 08:26:44 PM »

The odds of anyone here having even heard the worst albums of all time--unless having participated in their creations--are slim. So quickly it's just a thread about albums you don't like. Not the same thing.

What about truly sh*t albums like Summer In Paradise or Metal Machine Music?

Well first, a lot of people whose opinions I value really love Metal Machine Music. So on that, while I myself don't like it, I'd say be careful: your taste is your taste, but you might be missing something.

But as for something like Summer In Paradise, clearly it isn't anywhere near the worst ever because those musicians are competent. There are people making albums--especially in this day of home recording and self-release online--who can't play music. I don't mean you don't like their songs, I mean they don't know how to play music. Can't make chords or progressions. Can't sing on tune. Have no talent. A bad album by a popular and talented band is nowhere near the worst album of all time. It isn't even in the same league.


I don't think not being able to "play music" necessarily makes someone untalented.

Summer In Paradise is so obviously creatively bankrupt that it comes off as being "bad" despite its competent performance. It's more interesting to hear an aspiring musician at least trying on the Internet than listening to spent middle aged men go through the motions.
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« Reply #132 on: February 28, 2014, 08:50:22 PM »



Well first, a lot of people whose opinions I value really love Metal Machine Music. So on that, while I myself don't like it, I'd say be careful: your taste is your taste, but you might be missing something.


I think MMM is a good album conceptually, but it is no way an enjoyable listening experience.

Music is both entertainment and art. MMM fails as entertainment, but succeeds as art.
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« Reply #133 on: March 01, 2014, 05:09:40 AM »

The odds of anyone here having even heard the worst albums of all time--unless having participated in their creations--are slim. So quickly it's just a thread about albums you don't like. Not the same thing.

What about truly sh*t albums like Summer In Paradise or Metal Machine Music?

Well first, a lot of people whose opinions I value really love Metal Machine Music. So on that, while I myself don't like it, I'd say be careful: your taste is your taste, but you might be missing something.

But as for something like Summer In Paradise, clearly it isn't anywhere near the worst ever because those musicians are competent. There are people making albums--especially in this day of home recording and self-release online--who can't play music. I don't mean you don't like their songs, I mean they don't know how to play music. Can't make chords or progressions. Can't sing on tune. Have no talent. A bad album by a popular and talented band is nowhere near the worst album of all time. It isn't even in the same league.


I don't think not being able to "play music" necessarily makes someone untalented.

Summer In Paradise is so obviously creatively bankrupt that it comes off as being "bad" despite its competent performance. It's more interesting to hear an aspiring musician at least trying on the Internet than listening to spent middle aged men go through the motions.

Are interesting and uninteresting synonymous with good and bad, though? I'm not sure they are--not entirely, anyway.

As for talent vs technical competence, I've written about this somewhere else, I forget which thread. I partly agree and partly disagree. In short I think technical competence is a valuable tool that is a component of musicianship. It isn't the only tool, but it is extremely helpful.
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« Reply #134 on: March 01, 2014, 06:20:02 PM »


What's wrong with Some Time In New York City? IMHO I've always considered it to be one of the better Lennon solo albums. I ignore and skip over the Yoko songs of course, but the Lennon songs are brilliant, especially Woman Is The n***** Of The World.

I can't speak for anyone else, but for me STINYC is the point where the politics became more important than the music. Not to mention the fact that "Luck Of The Irish" may be the single most patronizing protest song ever written. I agree that "Woman Is The N***r Of The World" is by a very long way the best thing on it. But what do I know, I prefer Walls & Bridges to Plastic Ono Band.
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« Reply #135 on: March 02, 2014, 03:13:16 AM »

6. Anything by Lady Gaga
3. Anything by Justin Bieber
2. Anything by Skrillex

I don't believe you have heard these albums. If I'm correct, none of those artists have an album titled "Anything"
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« Reply #136 on: March 02, 2014, 09:58:41 AM »


What's wrong with Some Time In New York City? IMHO I've always considered it to be one of the better Lennon solo albums. I ignore and skip over the Yoko songs of course, but the Lennon songs are brilliant, especially Woman Is The n***** Of The World.

I can't speak for anyone else, but for me STINYC is the point where the politics became more important than the music. Not to mention the fact that "Luck Of The Irish" may be the single most patronizing protest song ever written. I agree that "Woman Is The N***r Of The World" is by a very long way the best thing on it. But what do I know, I prefer Walls & Bridges to Plastic Ono Band.

 This sums it up for me. WALLS & BRIDGES is just a track or two off from being a great John Lennon album. More satisfying if less consistent than POB or IMAGINE.
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« Reply #137 on: March 05, 2014, 05:00:53 AM »

Squeeze isn't bad at all if you can remove the stigma from the proceedings. The songs range from OK to quite good to nearly great, but the album is consistently pleasant to the ears. Doug has a great voice and is a great player, so in that: a crappy situation is elevated. If he'd only had Sterling and MO on the album, it would have a lot better of a reputation.

I love the Doug era Velvets. His voice/presence was a great foil for Lou's and they complemented each other greatly in the harmonies and his bass playing was always spot on.

The American Flyer album (Produced by George Martin) is also worth tracking down. It's a bit too middle-of-the-road but Doug's great on it.
Completely agree with you re "Squeeze", Erik - it's mighty good! And yes, if Sterling & Maureen & even Lou had been on the album, we wouldn't talk about how bad it is (assuming Doug still be a sole songwriter of all songs & the guys sang back-up vocs & carried instruments). Love the Doug years of Velvets too!

Thanks for the tip, I'll sure check "The American Flyer".
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« Reply #138 on: November 05, 2015, 08:59:07 PM »

Decided to play some forum roulette and randomly select an old thread to bring back from the dead.

Worst album of all time could easily go to Kid Rock, Nickelback, Ke$ha, Five Finger Death Punch, etc.  But I'll stick with worst albums by artists I actually like. 

#1 Worst

Metallica - St Anger - The songs are long and go nowhere.  The production is dreadful.  The whole album sounds like a bootleg.  Worst of all.  You've got one of the great metal guitarists in Kirk Hammett, and there's not one guitar solo anywhere on this overlong piece of dreck. 

Other contenders

Van Halen 3 - I'm an Extreme fan, so I thought this would work.  Wow, was I wrong.  Terrible.  And Eddie tried to sing.  Why?

Queen - Hot Space - One of the best hard rock bands of the 1970s entered the 1980s as an unrecognizable dance band?Huh  Gone were the over the top pomp rock of the 1970s.  Replaced by synths and dance beats.  A couple of Queen like songs save this from worst of all time status, but it's far and away the worst of Queen's career. 

Deep Purple - Bananas - The first Deep Purple album without Jon Lord.  And their worst.   Paint by numbers. 

Motley Crue - Generation Swine - Vince Neil was back.  But instead of the Crue sound, we got an album mired in late 1990s industrial rock.

The Who - It's Hard - I can see why The Who was about to call it quits after this dud.  The best song, Eminence Front, sounds more like a Pete solo song than a Who song. 

Judas Priest - Demolition - The one saving grace about Tim "Ripper" Owens second Priest album was that it was so bad that it likely laid the groundwork for the return of Rob Halford.

Ozzy Osbourne - Black Rain - It was apparent by the lead single I Don't Wanna Stop, that Ozzy was stuck in a world of self parody. 

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« Reply #139 on: November 05, 2015, 09:21:12 PM »

Wow someone said McCartney II.

Coming Up, Waterfalls, On The Way, Temporary Secretary... Some of Macca's coolest songs!

I don't think McCartney II is that deserving of "worst", but I can definitely get on board why some people wouldn't like it.  It's not his most approachable album.  Songs like "Temporary Secretary"-- either you get where he's going with them and dig it, or you get an unearthly desire to punch everyone on your street corner in the face when you hear it.  ♪♫Temporary...secretary...temporary...secretary...♪♫  It's like being murdered by catchiness. 

But Harrison's Brainwashed considered one of the worst albums?  NO F_CKIN' WAY.  That thing is way better than over half of his solo albums and is easily one of the better solo albums by any of the Beatles.  
I can't stand "Temporary Secretary". Loved the original lo-fi "McCartney" album, but "McCartney 2" is not one of his shining moments. I remember going into a used record store and seeing the last Wings album, "Back to the Egg", in the bins with a lovingly handwritten note taped to the cover saying "This whole album rocks way better than anything on McCartney 2".
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« Reply #140 on: November 09, 2015, 11:02:40 AM »

Boston - Walk On. 

So much anticipation since it had been 8 years since Third Stage.  At this point in the game, all of the songs sounded the same.  The novelty of a wall of guitars processed through the Rockman had worn off, and they dumped Brad Delp for a new singer.
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« Reply #141 on: November 12, 2015, 05:55:34 AM »

Boston - Walk On. 

So much anticipation since it had been 8 years since Third Stage.  At this point in the game, all of the songs sounded the same.  The novelty of a wall of guitars processed through the Rockman had worn off, and they dumped Brad Delp for a new singer.

I loved the first single, I Need Your Love.  But the rest was very lackluster. 
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« Reply #142 on: November 12, 2015, 11:56:47 AM »

Has anyone mentioned Self Portrait? You know, the album that prompted Griel Marcus to say "what is this $#it?" Back in 1970, it was supposed to be the worst thing Bob ever did, maybe the worst album ever. Time has softened that view, so much so that we even got "Another Self Portrait" a couple years ago. And the best SP might be made by combining the best tracks from both releases. Maybe even one or two tracks from the 1973 corporate bootleg, "Dylan".
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« Reply #143 on: November 13, 2015, 01:30:45 AM »

I really like Self-Portrait, always have, even before the Bootleg re-release. I think it needs to be judged on its own terms, for what it is, without the shadow of his 60s albums. A homespun, unpretentious, humble tribute to the music Bob loved and that shaped him as an artist. The live performances are out of the place but other than that I enjoy pretty much all songs. Copper Kettle is just gorgeous.
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« Reply #144 on: November 21, 2015, 02:28:33 PM »

Wow someone said McCartney II.

Coming Up, Waterfalls, On The Way, Temporary Secretary... Some of Macca's coolest songs!

I don't think McCartney II is that deserving of "worst", but I can definitely get on board why some people wouldn't like it.  It's not his most approachable album.  Songs like "Temporary Secretary"-- either you get where he's going with them and dig it, or you get an unearthly desire to punch everyone on your street corner in the face when you hear it.  ♪♫Temporary...secretary...temporary...secretary...♪♫  It's like being murdered by catchiness. 

But Harrison's Brainwashed considered one of the worst albums?  NO F_CKIN' WAY.  That thing is way better than over half of his solo albums and is easily one of the better solo albums by any of the Beatles.  
I can't stand "Temporary Secretary". Loved the original lo-fi "McCartney" album, but "McCartney 2" is not one of his shining moments. I remember going into a used record store and seeing the last Wings album, "Back to the Egg", in the bins with a lovingly handwritten note taped to the cover saying "This whole album rocks way better than anything on McCartney 2".
Ugh. My sister was really into McCartney and even as when I was a kid McCartney II made me cringe and put pillows over my ears when she played it. McCartney and Band on the Run were good.
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« Reply #145 on: November 23, 2015, 10:49:19 AM »

If we're talking McCartney, I could nominate almost any of his albums in the 2000s.  IMO, if you take all of the studio albums he's released in the 2000s, you might be able to put together a good 8-10 song mix....maybe. 

For one thing, he's got a great touring band, but he tends to play many of the tracks on the records himself. 
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« Reply #146 on: November 23, 2015, 12:01:50 PM »

If we're talking McCartney, I could nominate almost any of his albums in the 2000s.  IMO, if you take all of the studio albums he's released in the 2000s, you might be able to put together a good 8-10 song mix....maybe. 

For one thing, he's got a great touring band, but he tends to play many of the tracks on the records himself. 
It doesn't really matter, though, if the material is not there.
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« Reply #147 on: November 23, 2015, 12:08:56 PM »

If we're talking McCartney, I could nominate almost any of his albums in the 2000s.  IMO, if you take all of the studio albums he's released in the 2000s, you might be able to put together a good 8-10 song mix....maybe. 

For one thing, he's got a great touring band, but he tends to play many of the tracks on the records himself. 
It doesn't really matter, though, if the material is not there.

This is true.  But, IMO, there were a few songs on Memory Almost Full that would've benefited from having the band on there. 

Also, I don't think it's a coincidence that Only Mama Knows, IMO far and away the best track on the album, is one of the few that features the band. 
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« Reply #148 on: November 23, 2015, 01:57:33 PM »

If we're talking McCartney, I could nominate almost any of his albums in the 2000s.  IMO, if you take all of the studio albums he's released in the 2000s, you might be able to put together a good 8-10 song mix....maybe. 

For one thing, he's got a great touring band, but he tends to play many of the tracks on the records himself. 
Chaos & Creation is up there with Ram, Band on the Run, Back to the Egg and McCartney 2. All great albums methinks.
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« Reply #149 on: November 24, 2015, 01:48:11 AM »

Love Beach by Emerson, Lake & Palmer got to be a strong candidate.
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