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[SurfRiderHawaii]

You're ignoring my bigger point - that M&B don't exclusively play casinos - and suddenly, it matters what kind of casino, I see. As I said in another thread - I love the sound of furious back-peddling in the morning... 

Guess you haven't had your coffee. No, they play some nice gigs. If you had bothered to read my "casino" posts on the other thread, which you did and now ignore, I said the same there. Nothing wrong with casinos. Just dumpy ones and the Bruce/Mike show play lots of them. It is truly embarrassing to see them play some of these places.

The fans at these casinos might disagree with you.

That's like saying someone driving a Ford Fiesta thinks his car is just as nice as the Mercedes C350 that just passed him by. See, gamblers know their casinos. And they know the difference between a major Casino on the Vegas strip and the Chinook Winds Casino (where people come to smoke, drink and do some small scale gambling.

Not to say people don't like the dive atmosphere.  But it's also saying the Mike/Bruce show are cool playing the dive "Jack's Bar' in LA vs. While avoiding The House of Blues a few miles away. Course, if their nostalgia tour can't get into nicer venues, that explains why they play dumps.

Any of you British friends who are coming to Oregon, drop me a PM and I will give you a personal tour of where the C50th played, some nice casinos, and then the dive The Bruce/Mike show play on a regular basis.

[Andrew G. Doe]

Course, if their nostalgia tour can't get into nicer venues, that explains why they play dumps.

They can and do - Lancaster's American Music Theater is a very nice venue and they play there regularly. Longwood Gardens in Kennett Square PA is a very classy open air venue in the "Chateau country" of the lower Delaware valley (Du Pont hangout).

See, you're doing it again, and someone new to this forum (may God save their mortal soul) would get the distinct impression that Mike & Bruce only play downscale venues. The way you're expertly twisting, bending and flat-out ignoring the facts tell me you have a great future in politics, or public relations.

[SurfRiderHawaii]

Back to the thread title and subsequent discussions…

Since C50 ended David's released a new album, Brian's back in the studio and the two if them with Al have started to book dates. Mike and Bruce have a string of dates booked.

The only sad losers who haven't moved on and wish it could be 2012 forever is our community here. Let's appreciate the past for what it was, not for how it didn't drag on.

I think calling board members "sad losers" is not a comment condusive to produvtive discussion. Kinda of a funny comment on a board mainly devoted to yesteryear and music mostly 40-50 years old.

But I do agree, time has moved on. Things like thebeachboys.com - classy. Mike and Bruce headlining Humphreys by the Sea in San Diego, great gig. Dive casinos, don't like it.

[SMiLE Brian]

[SurfRiderHawaii]

Course, if their nostalgia tour can't get into nicer venues, that explains why they play dumps.

They can and do - Lancaster's American Music Theater is a very nice venue and they play there regularly. Longwood Gardens in Kennett Square PA is a very classy open air venue in the "Chateau country" of the lower Delaware valley (Du Pont hangout).

See, you're doing it again, and someone new to this forum (may God save their mortal soul) would get the distinct impression that Mike & Bruce only play downscale venues. The way you're expertly twisting, bending and flat-out ignoring the facts tell me you have a great future in politics, or public relations.

Some people new to the board might get the distinct impression you argue with people without reading what they have to say.

One has to wonder why you so strongly defend the fact that the Mike/Bruce tour general play the washed out rocker tour along with the likes of Smash Mouth and Sugar Ray. Some say Brian will no longer talk to you and you have now become a pasty for Bruce, who is the only guy talking to you. Just what I hear AGD.

I must say you are doing your credibility no good for even defending M/B for these shows.

[halblaineisgood]

You don't like a certain casino or the people who patronize it. Fair enough. But SmileBrian, Surfrider and whoever else ...you seem to feel like someone who goes to those casinos should be punished! They do stuff you don't like, so they do not 'deserve' good music.

[halblaineisgood]

If I were trapped at a 'flea bag' casino and had the chance to improve my mood with some great music, I'd probably have to stop and think about it first...."Hmm... understand how upsetting  this is for a few losers on smileysmile, for me to enjoy some music. I better go back to the gambling hall, and await the inevitable continuation of C50.. that, or the expiration of the BRI agreement, so then I can see M&B without making 'hardcore' fans mad." 

[Andrew G. Doe]

Course, if their nostalgia tour can't get into nicer venues, that explains why they play dumps.

They can and do - Lancaster's American Music Theater is a very nice venue and they play there regularly. Longwood Gardens in Kennett Square PA is a very classy open air venue in the "Chateau country" of the lower Delaware valley (Du Pont hangout).

See, you're doing it again, and someone new to this forum (may God save their mortal soul) would get the distinct impression that Mike & Bruce only play downscale venues. The way you're expertly twisting, bending and flat-out ignoring the facts tell me you have a great future in politics, or public relations.

Some people new to the board might get the distinct impression you argue with people without reading what they have to say.

One has to wonder why you so strongly defend the fact that the Mike/Bruce tour general play the washed out rocker tour along with the likes of Smash Mouth and Sugar Ray. Some say Brian will no longer talk to you and you have now become a pasty for Bruce, who is the only guy talking to you. Just what I hear AGD.

I must say you are doing your credibility no good for even defending M/B for these shows.

Au contraire, because I can see both sides of the coin, and not simply cherry-pick the info that supports any bias I may project, I find new doors opening.

As for those mysterious, mythical "some say", they're feeding you duff info, for Brian has never "talked" to me (in the sense you're implying) in the first place. But, seeing as you claimed you'd met me when it turns out you've not, I think I'm entitled to cast doubt on the veracity of your statement here.    I just love it when someone tells me something about myself that just isn't true, especially in a public forum for the express purpose of trying to make me look silly... because what happens is that person ends up looking exceedingly foolish. As my friend's children would say, epic fail. 

[AndrewHickey]

You don't like a certain casino or the people who patronize it. Fair enough. But SmileBrian, Surfrider and whoever else ...you seem to feel like someone who goes to those casinos should be punished! They do stuff you don't like, so they do not 'deserve' good music! Are you a child? If you are troubled by certain people you don't like, whether they are underclass problem gamblers, or just average humble folk who are not as concerned with "legacy" or "reputation"  as  you are, why don't you stop thinking about it!?!

Absolutely. Personally, I wouldn't pay to see Mike & Bruce doing a short hits show at a casino or county fair, though I'd pay quite a lot to see them do a longer theatre show,
But they're putting on a good show, for audiences who enjoy it. I genuinely don't see what's so bad about them playing "the washed out rocker tour along with the likes of Smash Mouth and Sugar Ray". It seems to be based on nothing other than snobbishness.

[SMiLE Brian]

I guess just part of me wants to see another C50 lineup show, I saw only one and was blown away. There is nothing more badass than american legends doing 50 song shows and rocking out. To go back to M&B is a hard pill to swallow, it doesn't help when they play less than stellar venues in my opinion.  Adding David or Al to M&B with a monthly appearance at a theater show by Brian would make it easier to accept.

[halblaineisgood]

I genuinely don't see what's so bad about them playing "the washed out rocker tour along with the likes of Smash Mouth and Sugar Ray". It seems to be based on nothing other than snobbishness.

Exactly.

[Cam Mott]

You're ignoring my bigger point - that M&B don't exclusively play casinos - and suddenly, it matters what kind of casino, I see. As I said in another thread - I love the sound of furious back-peddling in the morning... 

Guess you haven't had your coffee. No, they play some nice gigs. If you had bothered to read my "casino" posts on the other thread, which you did and now ignore, I said the same there. Nothing wrong with casinos. Just dumpy ones and the Bruce/Mike show play lots of them. It is truly embarrassing to see them play some of these places.

The fans at these casinos might disagree with you.

That's like saying someone driving a Ford Fiesta thinks his car is just as nice as the Mercedes C350 that just passed him by.

Yep. That's what I'm saying.

[Myk Luhv]

I would pay hundreds of dollars to hear Mike sing "All I Wanna Do" live...

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[SMiLE Brian]

I would pay hundreds of dollars to hear Mike sing "All I Wanna Do" live...

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I would pay millions if MBV backed him while he did it. Kevin Shields is a huge BBs fan.

[Andrew G. Doe]

I would pay hundreds of dollars to hear Mike sing "All I Wanna Do" live...

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With the technology available today, could easily be done. I'd be behind you in the queue. To hear, not pay, of course.

[Smilin Ed H]

So Andrew's a 'pasty for Bruce'? Really? What kind?

[Kurosawa]

Got agree with surf rider, I cannot believe some people want a washed up touring act over the real group making albums and touring.

Nobody wants that except the guy who matters-Mike.

[Andrew G. Doe]

For the information of the starry-eyed here... before last year, the last time "the real group" made an album was 1992 (or 1996 if you stretch a few points) and the last time "the real group" toured was May 1998. That they failed, neglected or plain couldn't be bothered to do so in the intervening 15-odd years should give you a big hint as to why C50 was (literally) a once-in-a-decade event. If you want something enough, you'll do it. They realised, all of them, that C50 was almost certainly the very last chance they'd have to make it work, and even then, it was showing signs of strain well before the end. You can think an' wish an' hope an' pray all you like - won't make a spit of difference.

[Myk Luhv]

I would pay hundreds of dollars to hear Mike sing "All I Wanna Do" live...

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With the technology available today, could easily be done. I'd be behind you in the queue. To hear, not pay, of course.

Well, we could all chip in so it amounts to hundreds and thus provides proper incentive to the Lovester. I'd be worried that if Shields backed him, he'd be unable to refrain from using an unnecessary amount of guitar effects while playing.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

But they're putting on a good show, for audiences who enjoy it. I genuinely don't see what's so bad about them playing "the washed out rocker tour along with the likes of Smash Mouth and Sugar Ray". It seems to be based on nothing other than snobbishness.

That's the way I feel, too. Believe me, I have no interest in seeing M&B. I would have before last year. I consider the Beach Boys to be the entire group, not what exists currently. However, I don't see the big deal about what venues are played. It's not like they're playing at retirement homes or strip clubs. And really, if people want to see them live, then good on them. Turning down a paying gig in this day and age is stupid. These venues generally have lower ticket prices than the more 'prestigious' venues. Why deny a lower income family an opportunity to see a live show?

[Jim V.]

Course, if their nostalgia tour can't get into nicer venues, that explains why they play dumps.

They can and do - Lancaster's American Music Theater is a very nice venue and they play there regularly. Longwood Gardens in Kennett Square PA is a very classy open air venue in the "Chateau country" of the lower Delaware valley (Du Pont hangout).

See, you're doing it again, and someone new to this forum (may God save their mortal soul) would get the distinct impression that Mike & Bruce only play downscale venues. The way you're expertly twisting, bending and flat-out ignoring the facts tell me you have a great future in politics, or public relations.

Some people new to the board might get the distinct impression you argue with people without reading what they have to say.

One has to wonder why you so strongly defend the fact that the Mike/Bruce tour general play the washed out rocker tour along with the likes of Smash Mouth and Sugar Ray. Some say Brian will no longer talk to you and you have now become a pasty for Bruce, who is the only guy talking to you. Just what I hear AGD.

I must say you are doing your credibility no good for even defending M/B for these shows.

Au contraire, because I can see both sides of the coin, and not simply cherry-pick the info that supports any bias I may project, I find new doors opening.

As for those mysterious, mythical "some say", they're feeding you duff info, for Brian has never "talked" to me (in the sense you're implying) in the first place. But, seeing as you claimed you'd met me when it turns out you've not, I think I'm entitled to cast doubt on the veracity of your statement here.    I just love it when someone tells me something about myself that just isn't true, especially in a public forum for the express purpose of trying to make me look silly... because what happens is that person ends up looking exceedingly foolish. As my friend's children would say, epic fail. 

Please stop trying to act as if you are "fair and balanced" Andrew. You are not. Just like the rest of us, you have an agenda to push, whether you know it or not.

And if it bothers you that SurfRider made possibly untrue accusations about you, how about you stop making the same kind of assumptions about others.

[Andrew G. Doe]

We all have an agenda to push, no question of that. Difference is, some - most - of us realise this, and also consider not only both sides but also the facts before presenting same. Others cherry pick the facts that support their personal bias and discard the rest. That's OK, just makes it all the easier for the rest of us to shoot them down in flames. Kinda fun, actually. 

As for the "possibly untrue accusations", I'm deeply tickled that someone who has never, ever talked to me in the first place is now... not talking to me. Makes someone look seriously foolish - and it ain't me. Terrible emotion, envy. Makes you say things that aren't true. As my ol' buddy Oscar was wont to say, "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about".

[SMiLE Brian]

Get off your high horse, you push the M&B agenda like the people on the bloo board push Brian's. It isn't a crime to do so, but actually pretending you don't and pushing people to follow it isn't right.

[halblaineisgood]

Turning down a paying gig in this day and age is stupid.

Yes it is.

[Andrew G. Doe]

No, no it's not, not at all, when you're protecting your artistic integrity. You might have to starve, go without but you CANNOT degrade the band's artistic integrity by playing shitty casinos. This is a fact. SurfRiderHawaii has so decreed. It must be so. 

Brian, of course, has never, ever played a low-rent venue in his entire solo career.