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Author Topic: New EP on iTunes featuring the single mix of "Isn't It Time" plus live tracks.  (Read 11551 times)
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« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2012, 02:42:52 PM »

The mixes of the live cuts are a little messy, but I'm glad we got these at least to tide us over for the potential live release of the whole show. 
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« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2012, 02:46:08 PM »

Anyone notice the question mark that is now part of the title?

Ha, funny you pointed that out because now the question mark has been corrected out of the title.  Maybe the folks at Apple are watching us.  Shocked
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« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2012, 04:36:11 PM »

Nice.

California Girls is great.

Do It Again.. ha. Studio version vocals laid on top of the live track, smh. Haven't gotten to Sail on Sailor yet.. scared.


Sail On Sailor is the same version that's on the NPR concert (which was supposed to be from "Grand Prairie TX"), as well as the Front Row Center special. Do It Again also sounds suspiciously the same between the iTunes and NPR concert version, though I couldn't get them to stay in sync perfectly (not an easy thing to do, on-the-fly, with a streaming iTunes clip). Nonetheless, the lead vocal is identical.

I'm not surprised. Those vox are definitely pulled from the 2011 remake version & everything else has been overdubbed / tuned to death. Makes you wonder.. Was the actual tape of the performance THAT bad?? I find that hard to believe after seeing them perform & hearing all of the audience tapes. Ah whatever, I bought it anyway.

Btw, and I didn't mean for this to happen, but the single version of Isn't It Time has replaced the original for me already. I listened to the album version again the other day and it sounded very bare-bones, almost demo-ish to me.

I don't think SOS is from the NPR concert--listen to Brian's growl on the EP which was totally absent on the NPR version.  Was it overdubbed here?  Maybe, but then again this could just be a completely different recording as they suggest


I'm not sure what growl you're speaking of. Is it something beyond the 90 second sample that's linked above? As for that sample, and unless they've changed it in the last 48 hours on the iTunes page, Brian's vocal matches that section of both the NPR and FRC show.....exactly. Every inflection. Every note.  Smiley


Here's a quick MP3 of the entire NPR track that can be streamed or downloaded for comparison's sake:

http://lukpac.org/~dave/12%20-%20Sail%20On,%20Sailor.mp3


And...for an even better comparison, here's the exact same 90 second section of the NPR performance that's used as a sample on the iTunes page:

http://www.lukpac.org/~dave/12%20-%20Sail%20On,%20Sailor%20-%2090%20second%20sample.mp3
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« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2012, 05:01:34 PM »

Nice.

California Girls is great.

Do It Again.. ha. Studio version vocals laid on top of the live track, smh. Haven't gotten to Sail on Sailor yet.. scared.


Sail On Sailor is the same version that's on the NPR concert (which was supposed to be from "Grand Prairie TX"), as well as the Front Row Center special. Do It Again also sounds suspiciously the same between the iTunes and NPR concert version, though I couldn't get them to stay in sync perfectly (not an easy thing to do, on-the-fly, with a streaming iTunes clip). Nonetheless, the lead vocal is identical.

I'm not surprised. Those vox are definitely pulled from the 2011 remake version & everything else has been overdubbed / tuned to death. Makes you wonder.. Was the actual tape of the performance THAT bad?? I find that hard to believe after seeing them perform & hearing all of the audience tapes. Ah whatever, I bought it anyway.

Btw, and I didn't mean for this to happen, but the single version of Isn't It Time has replaced the original for me already. I listened to the album version again the other day and it sounded very bare-bones, almost demo-ish to me.

I don't think SOS is from the NPR concert--listen to Brian's growl on the EP which was totally absent on the NPR version.  Was it overdubbed here?  Maybe, but then again this could just be a completely different recording as they suggest


I'm not sure what growl you're speaking of. Is it something beyond the 30 second sample that's linked above? As for that sample, and unless they've changed it in the last 48 hours on the iTunes page, Brian's vocal matches that section of both the NPR and FRC show.....exactly. Every inflection. Every note.  Smiley


Here's a quick MP3 sample of the NPR that can be streamed or downloaded for comparison's sake:

http://lukpac.org/~dave/12%20-%20Sail%20On,%20Sailor.mp3

"Damn the Thunder".  The growl on Damn.  He doesn't even say damn on the NPR show, it is Foskett or another band member.  Yeah, it is not on the sample, you have to download the entire song
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« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2012, 05:10:08 PM »

Nice.

California Girls is great.

Do It Again.. ha. Studio version vocals laid on top of the live track, smh. Haven't gotten to Sail on Sailor yet.. scared.


Sail On Sailor is the same version that's on the NPR concert (which was supposed to be from "Grand Prairie TX"), as well as the Front Row Center special. Do It Again also sounds suspiciously the same between the iTunes and NPR concert version, though I couldn't get them to stay in sync perfectly (not an easy thing to do, on-the-fly, with a streaming iTunes clip). Nonetheless, the lead vocal is identical.

I'm not surprised. Those vox are definitely pulled from the 2011 remake version & everything else has been overdubbed / tuned to death. Makes you wonder.. Was the actual tape of the performance THAT bad?? I find that hard to believe after seeing them perform & hearing all of the audience tapes. Ah whatever, I bought it anyway.

Btw, and I didn't mean for this to happen, but the single version of Isn't It Time has replaced the original for me already. I listened to the album version again the other day and it sounded very bare-bones, almost demo-ish to me.

I don't think SOS is from the NPR concert--listen to Brian's growl on the EP which was totally absent on the NPR version.  Was it overdubbed here?  Maybe, but then again this could just be a completely different recording as they suggest


I'm not sure what growl you're speaking of. Is it something beyond the 30 second sample that's linked above? As for that sample, and unless they've changed it in the last 48 hours on the iTunes page, Brian's vocal matches that section of both the NPR and FRC show.....exactly. Every inflection. Every note.  Smiley


Here's a quick MP3 sample of the NPR that can be streamed or downloaded for comparison's sake:

http://lukpac.org/~dave/12%20-%20Sail%20On,%20Sailor.mp3

"Damn the Thunder".  The growl on Damn.  He doesn't even say damn on the NPR show, it is Foskett or another band member.  Yeah, it is not on the sample, you have to download the entire song

Is it possible that they just mixed that one section differently? That is, using Brian's "damn" instead of Foskett's? Or...even overdubbed, or flown-in from another performance, after the fact?

Because, as you can see, using the respective 90 second samples as comparisons, those sections are 100% identical. Anyone can compare using the new, 90 second sample of the NPR show I linked below. They sync up perfectly:

http://www.lukpac.org/~dave/12%20-%20Sail%20On,%20Sailor%20-%2090%20second%20sample.mp3
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« Reply #30 on: October 03, 2012, 05:11:42 PM »

Sure, I'm just sayin' "Damn the Thunder" is clearly different. How they got there I don't know
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« Reply #31 on: October 03, 2012, 05:16:55 PM »


Cool. I'm gonna lay out coin and actually purchase it at some point.   LOL  Smiley
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« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2012, 05:56:42 PM »

I have to say, I've been listenng to "Sail On Sailor" and despite the processing, Brian still sings the hell out of it and I can't get enough of it.  One of the highlights of the tour in my opinion and I'm just glad to have a souvenir of it.
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« Reply #33 on: October 06, 2012, 04:52:00 AM »

Ok, is this the single release? I'm still waiting for a physical single to buy. I thought they'd do it better after the single release of TWGMTR was so confusing, but I still don't get through all of this
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« Reply #34 on: October 06, 2012, 05:15:19 AM »

Bought the download. For DIA, all the live shows I went to, the band came out and started kicking into the song as Foskett introduced the individual BB's.....That is not in this "live" version of DIA
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« Reply #35 on: October 07, 2012, 12:23:35 PM »

Ugh. The album version is perfect, and would've been a much better single. It just FEELS right. Proof that BW works best when he has a deadline, and doesn't have the time to overlabor and second guess what he's doing. That's probably why the whole album came out so good.
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« Reply #36 on: October 07, 2012, 12:30:16 PM »

Bought the download. For DIA, all the live shows I went to, the band came out and started kicking into the song as Foskett introduced the individual BB's.....That is not in this "live" version of DIA

Well, they could have easily just mixed Jeff's intro out on this track.
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« Reply #37 on: October 07, 2012, 12:30:53 PM »

Yes, single is too sound-effected, but love Jeff being kicked off the bridge--worth the price of admission. Love Dave's guitar work on SOS and DIT; the EP is lots of fun (great on headphones at the gym working out) and continues the pleasure we have in the reunion.  I do not know if IIT is on the radio or if this is the "single release." No one seems to be noticing but us. Any Billboard activity?
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« Reply #38 on: October 07, 2012, 01:52:58 PM »

Bought the download. For DIA, all the live shows I went to, the band came out and started kicking into the song as Foskett introduced the individual BB's.....That is not in this "live" version of DIA

They didn't start doing that intro until later in the tour. I'm not sure when they started, but I can definitely testify that they didn't have Jeff announcing the into at the opener in Tucson.

I liked it much better that way. Nothing against Jeff, but I think it's a much more effective show opener to just start hitting that beat, then have everyone walk on and start playing. That's how you announce your presence. You don't need to tell anyone you're from Hawthorne California, or that these are your names. You're the freaking Beach Boys. There's no better way to say "Hey we're here and we're going to give you a great time tonight" than to just start singing.
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« Reply #39 on: October 07, 2012, 04:29:48 PM »

2 cuts on 1964's Beach Boys Concert album are studio cuts with crowd overdubs....when you see footage of The Beatles playing Shea Stadium, half of the tracks were cut in the studio and synced to picture (or in the case of "Act Naturally" they just played the record and dubbed in crowd sounds....Kiss Alive was mostly done in the studio....

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« Reply #40 on: October 08, 2012, 02:01:51 AM »

I've listened to the new version of Isn't It Time several times now.  It definitely sounds better than the audio samples we heard earlier...  that's often the case.  I also like the intro, and the beefed up instrumentation on the chorus.  Also, it was a nice idea to have all the lead vocals handled by official BBs members. 

However, the rest of the changes not so good.  The original lyrics were better, the vocals sounded better without so many effects,  the new bridge is quite limp vocally and melodically, and the overall "modern" production touches mostly sound kinda fake, like they were desperately trying to make it into a hit single.  Still, I love the song in both incarnations, but definitely prefer the minimalistic, quirky original. 

I like the live cuts, beefed up or not, as as pointed out, they've been beefing up live recordings since 1964, so it's not exactly unusual.  I REALLY like the version of SOS, and second the opinions above that it's great to have a recording of it already.  And the other songs sound great too--Brian's band plus the BB's voices is a brilliant combo.  If they can make a 2.5 hour, double-CD live album from the reunion tour, I'm all over it. 
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« Reply #41 on: October 08, 2012, 10:24:56 AM »

I went over to iTunes to purchase the EP download and was presented with a notice that it wasn't available in my country (USA). Has anyone else had this problem?


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« Reply #42 on: October 08, 2012, 10:59:40 AM »

I went over to iTunes to purchase the EP download and was presented with a notice that it wasn't available in my country (USA). Has anyone else had this problem?



No, I downloaded it on October 2nd and had no problems at all.
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« Reply #43 on: October 08, 2012, 11:35:42 AM »

I had a similar problem, it is not on Canadian Itunes either.   Grrrr.  Maybe tomorrow when the new stuff is released in North America we'll get the new EP too.
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« Reply #44 on: October 08, 2012, 11:55:53 AM »

I know Amazon wasn't releasing it until tomorrow. Could iTunes have released it early and then caught their mistake and taken it down? 
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« Reply #45 on: October 08, 2012, 07:53:58 PM »

I went over to iTunes to purchase the EP download and was presented with a notice that it wasn't available in my country (USA). Has anyone else had this problem?




Emdeeh,

When I was comparing clips last week, I got the same notice when I went to the link that was posted here (i.e. the one with the 30 second samples). However, when I opened the iTunes program *directly* (i.e. the iTunes software already on my computer), went to the "Store" section and did a search on "Beach Boys Isn't It Time," it was still there for purchase....and with 90 second samples. So, give that a shot. That should work.
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« Reply #46 on: October 08, 2012, 08:19:05 PM »

Dave, that worked -- thank you!

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« Reply #47 on: October 08, 2012, 09:02:39 PM »

I have to say, I've been listenng to "Sail On Sailor" and despite the processing, Brian still sings the hell out of it and I can't get enough of it.  One of the highlights of the tour in my opinion and I'm just glad to have a souvenir of it.

I'd disagree.  Out of all the singers on the stage, why'd they give the most soulful song to the guy who's just barely conscious?Huh  I mean, you've got Darian who can rip a new ass into "Darlin", but they give the song to Brian???   Fail!
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« Reply #48 on: October 09, 2012, 02:08:21 AM »

I have to say, I've been listenng to "Sail On Sailor" and despite the processing, Brian still sings the hell out of it and I can't get enough of it.  One of the highlights of the tour in my opinion and I'm just glad to have a souvenir of it.

I'd disagree.  Out of all the singers on the stage, why'd they give the most soulful song to the guy who's just barely conscious?Huh  I mean, you've got Darian who can rip a new ass into "Darlin", but they give the song to Brian???   Fail!

Yeah! I mean, Brian's a braindead vegatable, right? He shouldn't be singing! Hey, aren't the rest of them REAAALLLLY old? You've got a guy up there who can sing their leads too, I bet.
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« Reply #49 on: October 09, 2012, 02:12:29 AM »

Downloaded the 4-track "single" from iTunes but the title track skips. Maybe it's my iPhone…  Sad
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